THIS JUST IN - BYE, BYE, STEINER!!!
 

Breaking News: Scott Steiner Finished With WWE
By Richard Gray on May 5, 2004 at 2:09 PM EST
(From our own newsboard, at TPWW)

Scott Steiner has been cleared to the ring according to several sources close to the situation. However, the internal feeling within WWE is that the creative team does not have anything for him. While most people would argue the SmackDown roster could use the extra talent, WWE management apparently feel that he is too “fragile” for a long term push at this point.

Despite being healthy through most of his stint with WWE, there is a suspicion that Steiner’s body is just too banged up to depend on him for any major storyline. Expect WWE to let Steiner’s contract expire as it appears as if we have seen the last of him in WWE.

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I think we should throw a party!

Why do you hate Steiner, may I ask?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: That's funny!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Wait, you're serious? :shifty:

Answer him then.

Heh. Okay, because he sucks??? But I'm sure you'll want me to explain, so where do I begin?

Well, okay, for starters, he has no wrestling ability whatsoever. Oh wait. I'm wrong. He does a Belly-To-Belly Suplex. How could I forget that??? :roll: Sure, it's impressive, but it gets kind of old after seeing it hundreds of times.

I really think they should put him on Smackdown! and have him feud with John Cena, as a way of giveing Cena a victory against an established star. I mean it'd be nice to put guys over against a former WCW World Champion

this is a happy day

:wave:

So if it's old it sucks?

No, not at all. I just love watching the same thing over and over again. It's just so exciting.

So whats so wrong with seeing Steiner's suplex over and over again?

They're takin' their kept-up Goldberg anger out on Steiner. :shifty:

You must really hate finishers then.

No, that's not true. It's just I'm really excited by people who have a limited moveset. But hey, I should give him some credit. Remember his match at No Way Out? In 2003? Wasn't that awesome?!? :shifty:

So what's the difference between a Steiner belly to belly or a Kurt Angle one? Or 10 Benoit German suplexes? Or the same flying forearm into nip up Shawn Michaels does in every match?

Ever heard of signature moves?

Yeah, I hear ya. I can't get enough of RVD matches. Watching the Rolling Thunder and Five Star repeatedly every week for 3 years puts me on the edge of my seat.

Remember Ric Flair and Bret Hart using the same moveset for 15 years?

And well all know Rey Misterio is the best wrestler in the world today because he does more than 16 moves in a match (or does he?).

:lol:

I can't say the dude put on good matches during his stint, but if this is true, to be honest, I'm kinda disappointed. I thought he had a good image/character, and could have been used on SD. :-\ Ah well.

Well it was better than the RR match.

Of course I have, but are you honestly saying Scott Steiner is as good as Angle and Benoit? There was a time when Steiner was one of the greats, but now his time is up.

Did I say that?

You said one of the reasons Steiner sucks was because he keeps using the belly to belly suplex (you wrote it, not anyone else). I used what you said and turned it on you like anyone with half a brain trying to prove a point would.

Personally, I think Steiner is way past it. More to do with injuries than anything. I'm fairly sure a good worker could still get a good match out of him. Jericho did. I think he would be a fresh face for Smackdown and he has the charisma and buiid to get himself over.

Next time be careful what you write or read what others write.

No, but it seemed like you were implying it. My apologies.

And for record, you also mentioned his limited moveset. Everyone knows Ric Flair and Bret Hart made careers out of limited movesets in matches and they are two of the greatest to ever step in a ring. That doesn't mean Steiner is as good as them. It means limited movesets mean absolutely nothing outside of Playstaion games.

Flair and Bret have gone for 60 minutes (plus), and put on excellent matches. When was the last time Steiner did that? I would suggest it's been a long time. C'mon, the guy was a great talent at one time, but age and steroids don't mix well, and his run in the WWE has been absolutely pathetic. At this point he's basically a liability in the ring; if he doesn't injure himself he could well injure his opponent. Also, Flair and Bret have charisma, and had much more ability than Steiner does right now. Just my opinion.

For once, a potential firing that I'm NOT sad about! w00t!

Off the top of my head, I think Scott Steiner has done 60 minute broadways. For the record, when was the last time Bret Hart and Ric Flair did that? Again, definately not saying Steiner is in their league but you can't compare 10 years ago to today.

I'll tell you for an absolute fact right now that Scott Steiner has more ability than Bret Hart in the ring right now.

Stiener wasn't to bad really.

That's not a terrible idea, but they've had enough huge guys with limited skills on that show to last them a lifetime. Smackdown needs something but Steiner's not the answer.

Holler if you hear me!

"Big Poppa Pump Is Your Hookup." Does that mean he deals steroids? :lol:

I only care about two things, my freaks and my peaks!

Yes, and apparently not about the quality of his matches.

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They should not just let his contract run out. At least not yet. Have him come back acting all big and bad like he was when he made his debut just this time he's a heel. Then feed him Orton on the Bad Blood PPV in a loser leaves the WWE match. Orton could keep his legend killer gimmick going strong, that is of course, if Orton could get a good match out of Steiner...

Ahhhhhh.... yes..... great idea! :y: But still, we'd have to see Steiner in one more match, and I just don't know if I could take it. Besides, you're right, could even Orton get a good match out of this thug?

I'm sure they could've used Steiner as an enforcer type, like Tyson Tomko.

But then Steiner would still be on my tv :n:

I'm not sure what the celebrations are for. At one time Scott Steiner was one of the best athletes in the business. The back injuries and age have taken their toll. His work was poor the last time he was in a ring. His mobility is limited and he probably doesn't have a long ru left in him.

But he still has some name value. He is still a very entertaining heel. He still has a very impressive look. Instead of wasting the money the WWE spent on signing him, they should put him on Smackdown, as mentioned, and have him put over guys like Eddie Guerrero and John Cena. Or feed him to 'taker just so nobody iwith a future is getting buried. Especially with the dearth of heels on Thursday nights, this is what Steiner should be used for. Actually, that's what he should have been doing in the first place.

"I'm not sure what the celebrations are for. At one time Scott Steiner was one of the best athletes in the business. The back injuries and age have taken their toll. His work was poor the last time he was in a ring. His mobility is limited and he probably doesn't have a long ru left in him."

Awwww... how sad... "the back injuries and age." Cry me a river.

And like I said before, if they put him on Smackdown, that means he'd still be on my tv. :n:

You're right. Why have an established name like Scott Steiner on TV when we can sit back and enjoy guys like Bob Holly, Bradshaw, A-Train, Johnny the Bull....

You do realize just by changing brands Rene Dupree went from jobber to mid-level heel? You do realize Smackdown has resorted to pushing the Dudleys again to the point where one of Judgement Day's biggest matches might be Dudleys v Rey/RVD? That show is ****ing dying for heels and here is one of the more well known heels of the last decade and you stand up and cheer because he's being cut w/o so much as an attempt to use him in any capacity.

Way to buy in to whatever the IRC feeds you.

I don't do IRC. Look, I don't like the way. That's my choice. If you like him, that's your choice. But there's no need to make this personal.

Edit: D'oh

I wasn't knocking you. I was knocking Scott Steiner. I don't like him, and I'm not the only one. That's it.

No, but you're the only one going on and on anytime mentions another possible use for Steiner how those are bad ideas becuse he's "still on your TV."

Read the thread again. Rob made some really good points on what Steiner could do for the WWE. This is another example of the writers not being able to come up wth angles that properly make use of the talent.

Scott isn't Goldberg. He can be very good on the mic. He's willing to put people over. If his is true, the WWE is firing him w/o even making an atempt to use him. Pretty dumb.

Personally, I can't stand Steiner... His old ring work used to be great, but that was the past... However, there could still be a use for him. As said above, just feed him to someone, or stick him on Smackdown. For example, have him reek havoc on Smackdown, and build him up as an unstoppable character.... As a last resort, Angle brings back Big Show, who could destroy Steiner, and end his career.

Now I know a lot of people wouldn't be thrilled about a Big Show push, but if pushed right, he can be a great heel. Get his workrate up, and give him a manager, it'll work.

Again, this is your opinion, and the opinion of others, and you're entitled to it. Do I seriously think Steiner on Smackdown would be a bad idea? Maybe not. There. I said it. But I just don't see what's so great about him. He was great at one time, yes. But that doesn't mean he still is. He's made his contribution. Do you want him to work forever? C'mon. It was suggested they put him on Smackdown, to be squashed, so that somebody else can be built up. That's an option, yes, but I think there are better ways to push someone than to stick him in the ring with Steiner. That's just my opinion.

See..actually acknowleging the idea and opinion of others is the point. Even if you don't agree. But that "he's still on my TV shit" is childish.

Take that noise to iowrestling.

To who? Anyway, yes, I acknowledged your idea. Fine. I thought about it, and maybe Steiner on Smackdown wouldn't be a bad idea. But would it really improve the show? Well, it'd be a temporary fix, in my opinion. And again, I think there are better ways to push someone than to put him in a match with Steiner. You wanna put Steiner in these high-profile matches, while people with much more ability are stuck on Velocity? I can't agree with that.

Here's what I was saying: I have no problem with your opinion. but instead of just dismissive one liners, back it up. You did. It's gravy.

If you want to post meaningless nonsense w/o any kind of thought, as I said, go to iowrestling. Or casual. ;)

Okay. So we're cool now? :y:

I'm alway cool. *pops collar,drinks Hypnotiq and Henny, goes back to work fixing database for broker*

Oh you're so young. Here's a little hint buddy. As long as you never disagree with these people, they'll always like you. Just don't dare speak your mind.

DUDE, STEINER F.UCKIN' SUCKS!!! why cant you just except it?!!

:yes: oh, now i understand. you are on crack.

Heh. Yeah, Flair and Bret are both legends. I wouldn't put Steiner in the same category.

I'll agree that Steiner was the man back in WCW but those days are long gone. As much as I hate to say it though, I will miss him. I actually did enjoy his fued with Test over Stacy. I enjoyed the fued he had with HHH. I enjoyed his promos, rants, and rages. So what if he did steroids, so what if he did drugs. He was enjoyable and should've been thrown onto Smackdown for heel usage. But that's just my opinion. Take it for what you will from this Jeff Hardy mark.

Yeah, since they can't use him on RAW, common logic would have him on Smackdown!, but you know, it's the WWE.

I've never really cared about him but he's a big name that could easily add to the desparately needed star power on Smackdown.

They need "star power," that's true. So they should create it. Billy Kidman, Paul London, and even Orlando Jordan, can all be huge stars. Why continue to depend on people who can't cut it?

Because, traditionally, the way you "create" stars is to have them beat established ones. Orlando Jordan could beat Johnny the Bull 27 times in a row and no one would care. But having him beat someone with name value like Scott Steiner means something. His reputation alone makes hims worth useing.

I think, they should at least put him in Smackdown's U.S. Title scene.

Right now, Rene Dupree is the only real shot against John Cena for now. Heck, he could even feud with Guerrero. But he does not need to be on RAW; RAW doesn't need him.

Only thing is...he should have a bunch of eye candy and over-the-top promos like he used to. He was the top heel of WCW...one I enjoyed watching (if not for TBS's annoying practices-and-standards hounds)...
...none of that nonsense he shared with HHH, thanks.

Definitely. he could walk down to the ring with some of the better looking OVW workers, wearing that crazy metal helmet thing and start talking insane nonsense:

"I don't have 30 days and 30 nights, to show you why all the hoochies say there's nothing finer than Scott Steiner, but all I need is one night to have your wife call me for the rest of her life, the big bad booty daddy, so this goes to all my freaks out there, Big Poppa Pump is your hook up, hollar if you hear me." -- Scott Steiner1`

WTF does that mean????? Who knows...looking the way he looks, like a half-crazed Abobo from Double Dragon (credit: Rock Bottom) Scott Steiner is golden on the mic.

lol, Steiner was great on the mic at the end of WCW. I have a lot of his sh** on tape.

I mean, since Smackdown is turning into a bad version of WCW Thunder now, and WWE is slowly having this "WCW Throwback Culture" obsession, why not just complete the circle and just turn it into a pseudo-WCW show.

(By the way...what former WCW wrestlers that came in the Invasion are still in WWE besides Booker T?)

Lance Storm, Chuck Palumbo, Mark Jindrak, Chavo Guerrero, Hurricane...prolly more

Shannon Moore, Noble, and Stamboli...I'm not sure if they were just in OVW or something or were signed after the Invasion...

Torrie, Stacy, Bill DeMott too

I've always likes Steiner :(
Good luck for him in the future.

Yes, I hope he does well when he's stocking shelves at Stop 'n' Shop.

Careful Red Hot Scott. These people won't like that.

:lol: That is a pretty funny image

Customer: Pardon me sir, but...

Scott Steiner: What do you want lady?

Customer: Well, um, the date on the milk says sell by May 2nd. Today's the 5th.

Scott Steiner: Yeah, so?

Customer: So??? So it's expired?

Scott Steiner: Hey lady, I don't care about the milk. I only care about my freaks and my peaks.

Customer: Your what? Young man, I want to speak with your manager.

Scott Steiner: My manager? (Momentarily confused) I never had a manager.. Uh, I mean, look sweetie, he ain't here right now.

Customer: Well I'm very dissatisfied. The milk's expired, and you're being very rude. Now I want to talk to....

Steiner picks her up and gives her a belly-to-belly suplex.

Scott Steiner: Take that ya bi</>tch. Yeah, clean up. Aisle 5!

oh yeah, didn't they have some Eddie/Chavo feud back when Chavo was still a "WCW" brand wrestler? Or maybe I'm just letting my imagination get away with me. I know he went to Tough Enough afterward...

:n:

Steiner is very fragile,he is done. Maybe a role manager-wise, just as long as he doesn't take too much time away from the younger talents, like a few ppl on Smackdown tend to do... *coughcough*takerhollybradshaw*coughcough*

I never had anything against Steiner. He and Rick were the shit back in the day.

He should definetly have been utilitzed for SmackDown! as others have said, since its sinking fast, IMO. True, he wouldn't be able to have a long run, but he could have atleast been brought back to put a young wrestler over.

i think like so many other former wcw people steiner was missused in the wwe. his wrestling days were almost over what they should have done was make him super part time heel maby bodyguard to evalution, kind of like batasta is doing now, but no vince had to make him tests bitch

Steiner could be used brilliantly in the WWE selling hotdogs like Rhyno and Dreamer :shifty:

You should. Not only was he the better half of one of a great tag team, at the end of WCW, he was a truly great, great heel. He had more talent in him than most of the people that will be considered legends in 10 years such as Austin (Stone Cold, Stunning Steve, it doesn't matter - Scott was better) and Rock (Sorry, RB). Promoters were trying for years to get him to cut Rick and become a single superstar. I'd say if he hadn't injured himself in '94, he'd be one of the guys people said revolutionized pro wrestling.

Steiner was one of the guys who really got gimped by WWE when they came in. Others were Raven, Booker, and DDP. Look at that: Raven, Booker, DDP, Scott Steiner. Throw in Jeff Jarrett and you've got pretty much the whole main event scene of WCW near the end. And where are they? Steiner's gone, Raven's in the world title scene in TNA, Booker's jobbing to Undertaker, and DDP jobbed to Undertaker's wife.

And really, Steiner's too fragile? What about Triple H?

He made his money, i'm dam sure he made his money and to be fair his WWE stink was a joke anyways. Just by looking at both his 'main event' matches with HHH would tell you that he's not the guy he used to be.

Hope everything turn out ok for him, but I in no way feel sorry for him. He waited until his time warner contract expired before he went to the WWE, the guy knew what he was doing and if he was happy to sit back get paid and let the time warner contract expire, i'm sure he's quite happy to do the same with his current contract

Well. all i got to say is that...

Steiner WAS a steroids-****ed idiot who couldnt balance himself on the turnbuckle without falling flat on his face.

However, i had been impressed by steiner's performance in year 2003 in his feud with HHH. SO now, since wwe does not want to make use of such a talent, i just hope that he goes to TWA or somewhere in Japan, instead of rotting in WWE and selling hotdogs.

Rick's a booker in Japan, I believe, and could go over there.

I don't think he'd fit in TNA, as they're trying to go to more of a family friendly atmosphere.

How bad was he in WCW that he impressed by those matches?
Granted I never saw him in WCW, but he looked like a lumbering old man v HHH, and that in itself is a mean trick!

See ya 'Roido

it kinda sucks.

I think that excuse that they couldn't use him for a long run is nothin more than complete B.S.

Look at the rosters on both shows. How many folks do they really use for long push runs? Triple H... ummmm man I'm sure there are a couple more but that's it.

Fact is the guy was established. A former world champion (in WCW) and part of what has to be one of the greatest tag teams ever created in wrestling history The Steiner Brothers. I mean the guy has been in there for more years than a lot of the guys they have now.

OK I have somehtin now. The Rock. Sure the guy is entertaining but when does he compete? WM and that's about it. Long term push? None at all. Just one month and poof he's gone. Yet they stil keep him signed. Why? Cause he is established and can put people over. Steiner can do that also except on a more regular basis than The Rock. I do think it's messed up that they take him out just cause of that.

In one way it's good to see him leave but on many other levels he could have been used in a mighty way but they have also dropped the ball with him.

While the WCW vs. WWF war was going on, Eddie was away following his alcohol/drug abuse earlier in the year and the previous year. Eddie did not return until April of 2002, long after the Invasion angle had ended.

However, back in WCW, Eddie and Chavo did feud after Eddie turned heel, with Chavo wanting Eddie to "be fair and play by the rules" and Eddie trying to teach Chavo how to "Cheat 2 Win".

Bye, Bye Steiner!

He's "established," huh? How many people who watch wrestling have actually noticed he's gone? I'm sure a lot of the fans have already forgotten about him, and who can really blame them? It's not like there's much that's worth remembering. :nono: