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NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-04-2012 05:58 PM

Overeem Fails Drug Test
 
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Alistair Overeem (36-11 MMA, 1-0 UFC) us unlikely to fight champion Junior Dos Santos (14-1 MMA, 8-0 UFC) for the UFC heavyweight title this summer at UFC 146.

Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer today told MMAjunkie.com the No. 1 heavyweight contender failed a pre-fight drug test conducted this past Tuesday following a press conference for UFC 146.

Overeem's "A" sample was flagged for an elevated T/E ratio. Kizer said the heavyweight has the right to request the test's "B" sample, which, if negative, would make him eligible to receive a fight license.

Read the rest of the article here:

Alistair Overeem fails pre-fight drug test, likely out of UFC 146 title fight | MMAjunkie.com
Oh dear.

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:02 PM

Cain should step up and get the fight..

He is prolly in shape already and is scheduled to fight Mir on the same card..

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:03 PM

Fucking sucks though..

Shaved Monkey 04-04-2012 06:05 PM

Well, that's disappointing if unsurprising.

I'm extremely curious to see who gets the fight. Krispy mentioned Cain which was my first thought but I doubt it. I think Mir gets bumped up to fight JDS before anyone else.

Shaved Monkey 04-04-2012 06:08 PM

Apparently his levels were 10:1 versus the acceptable levels of 6:1 according so some ESPN guy on Twitter.

He should have never given up on the horse meat.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-04-2012 06:09 PM

I don't think Cain will get it, after how the first fight ended.

Mir would make the most sense.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-04-2012 06:10 PM

Quote:

Tim Sylvia‏ <s>@</s>timsylviamma I would love to step in and fight big foot. Move mir up to fight for the belt and Roy to fight Cain. Just saying that would b fun

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:10 PM

:n:

Not that I wouldn't mind seeing Mir getting KO'ed, but wins over a done Cro Cop, Roy Nelson, and Big Nog doesn't deserve a title shot.. The last times he fought contenders, he was dominated (Carwin and Lesnar)..

Cain destroyed Lesnar for the title and was injured in his only loss, against Dos Santos..

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:13 PM

Maybe Josh Barnett might be coming back to the UFC sooner than originally thought..

Shaved Monkey 04-04-2012 06:15 PM

Yeah but Cain hasn't even been in a fight since he lost. I really think the fight has to go to someone who has strung together some recent wins and other than Mir you have Mark Hunt and I think that's about it.

Shaved Monkey 04-04-2012 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3816258)
Maybe Josh Barnett might be coming back to the UFC sooner than originally thought..

Barnett has one, maybe two more fights left with Showtime before that can happen. He'd be a great addition but there's always the threat of him pissing dirty again at any time.

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaved Monkey (Post 3816262)
Barnett has one, maybe two more fights left with Showtime before that can happen. He'd be a great addition but there's always the threat of him pissing dirty again at any time.

But UFC owns Strikeforce now..

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:20 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/robnashville/...48780995268608

lol

Shaved Monkey 04-04-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3816263)
But UFC owns Strikeforce now..

Yes, I'm not certain exactly how it works but I think Barnett and Cormier are contractually obligated to Showtime for the SF Grand Prix finals as well as one more fight for the winner. I think. I could just be talking out of my ass.

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:23 PM

Well, I had heard that if Barnett did well in the grand prix, Dana would let him come back with open arms..

Quote:

-- Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) President Dana White discussed the future of the organization's heavyweight division with HDNet's Ron Kruck. The point of emphasis revolved around the new faces that the UFC has imported from Strikeforce within the last few months. The only two heavyweights who are technically still on the Strikeforce roster are Daniel Cormier and Josh Barnett, who will face each other in the finals of the Strikeforce heavyweight grand prix tournament at Strikeforce: "Barnett vs. Cormier" in San Jose, Calif., on May 19, 2012. Presumably, both fighters would head over to the UFC when all is said and done, but Barnett's sketchy history with White and his promotion leaves some wondering if it's a sure thing that he will make the transition. Stranger things have certainly happened, and if we know one thing, it's that Dana White finds ways to forgive those who he can make a profit on. Money makes the world go, Maniacs.

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:28 PM

http://i.imgur.com/vNpUk.png

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 06:32 PM

https://twitter.com/#!/James_Brydon/...49585647325185

MoFo 04-04-2012 07:25 PM

lol, inevitable.

weather vane 04-04-2012 07:46 PM

fuck...

MMA is awful for drugs.

Kris P Lettus 04-04-2012 08:13 PM

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http://bjpenn.com/mobile/mmanews/201...est-18412.html

With No Plan B, UFC President Furious At Overeem For Failing Test
Apr 4th, 2012 @ 03:31 pm › Pedro Carrasco

“I am beyond pissed about this. I’m so (expletive) mad right now I can’t even begin … The worst part is that he sat in front of us and lied to us. How (expletive) stupid do you have to be? Seriously dumb. Anybody who’s using (performance-enhancing drugs) right now is an absolute (expletive) moron. It’s beyond — what’s the word I’m looking for — it’s beyond belief. It’s beyond comprehension. You’re an absolute moron, a brain-dead absolute (expletive) dummy. It goes beyond a guy have any common sense whatsoever… I don’t have a plan-B. It doesn’t look good, does it? It doesn’t look good.”

The UFC held a media conference call today with the Canadian press and UFC President Dana White was put on the spot about today’s revelation that Overeem has failed his random drug test.

Overeem and team still have time to act; the commission can test a second sample taken from Alistair on the same day to see if it yields the same result. However let’s get real, you pee in two cups back to back at the same time, how would it yield a different result?

There is still time on the clock for Overeem to come out and right the wrong, maybe there is a good reason, maybe it was a testing error, or maybe it’s all accurate and Overeem is a user.

In time we will have these answers.

If you missed our report on Overeem’s failed test, click HERE.

Stay Tuned…

Next Big Thing 04-04-2012 10:42 PM

Dude is fucked if he doesn't have a good excuse. Dana has to cut him after this if he's found guilty. It sucks because I thought Overeem would be a star over here.

Pintint 04-04-2012 10:44 PM

Damn.

Was really looking forward to his fight vs the champ.

Anyway, back to no interest in MMA.

James Steele 04-04-2012 11:16 PM

Brock still has one fight left on his contract.

Krimzon7 04-05-2012 12:16 AM

Ugh, fuck. Dude

Funky Fly 04-05-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3816538)
Brock still has one fight left on his contract.

He doesn't have the stand up to take on any of the top guys besides Mir.

MoFo 04-05-2012 06:09 AM

He can fight Fedor on some BumFights card in Russia now

James Steele 04-05-2012 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3816659)
He doesn't have the stand up to take on any of the top guys besides Mir.

He got a title fight with a 1-1 record in the UFC because he was a draw, so what would be different about giving him a title fight with a slightly worse record in which he'd still draw?

Funky Fly 04-05-2012 06:33 AM

He'd get killed by Dos Santos.

Carwin's level of power + Cain's level of technique = extra bad night for Lesnar.

James Steele 04-05-2012 09:34 AM

Asses in seats and eyes on TVs is all Dana cares about.

PrettyCool 04-05-2012 10:57 AM

I think this should cancel the results of him against Lesnar because he was cheating.

Shaved Monkey 04-05-2012 12:17 PM

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No retroactive penalty is likely. Though Overeem was given a conditional fighter's license to face Brock Lesnar late last year under terms that he would later provide two random tests, failing one of those random tests months later is not likely to change the fight result, Kizer said.

According to him, Overeem passed three urine test and one blood test around the Lesnar fight, and his samples from that time have likely been destroyed since.

Kris P Lettus 04-05-2012 02:49 PM

http://www.mmafighting.com/ufc/2012/...istair-overeem

Kris P Lettus 04-05-2012 03:04 PM

The more I read and think about this, the more it pisses me off..

A few years ago, the UFC HW division was by far the weakest division in MMA.. They bring in Cro Cop and he fucking sucks.. They have to bring back a 45+ year old Randy Couture to get rid of Sylvia.. We get Big Nog, but Mir has beat him twice now.. Then we get Lesnar, who ends up getting sick and becoming a HUGE pussy.. Then you have Cain, who is an all around solid fighter, but Dos Santos "dethrones" him, for lack of a better term.. Throw in Carwin and his 3 min fights somewhere in there, but then he exposes his weak gas tank.. Then we get Overeem, who over the past few years, has look unstoppable, failing a drug test, the HW division is back to being weak..

I mean, you still have Cain, Dos Santos, Mir, etc, but are we really looking for Josh Barnett to bring the HW division back??

fuck

:(

Funky Fly 04-05-2012 03:48 PM

Seems like truly talented Heavyweight guys are just few and far between. t seems like Middleweight/Light Heavyweight is around the ideal size to be a pro MMA fighter.

Kris P Lettus 04-05-2012 05:18 PM

Overeem's T/E Levels 14/1

Shaved Monkey 04-05-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3817122)
I mean, you still have Cain, Dos Santos, Mir, etc, but are we really looking for Josh Barnett to bring the HW division back??

Yeah, all this nonsense makes me wish that Jones moves up to HW sooner rather than later.

Kris P Lettus 04-05-2012 05:28 PM

People are calling for a 8-7 Mark Hunt to get the shot cause of his 3 UFC wins.. I know he just beat Kongo, who had been on a run, bu the only fight I've seen him in, in the UFC, was against Big Ben Rothwell, and it was one of the worst fights I've ever seen.. Rothwell gassed in the second and Hunt gassed trying to put him away..

Shaved Monkey 04-05-2012 05:38 PM

Yeah, that's our fault. This all started on Bloody Elbow as a shits and giggles thing and is actually blowing up. I dunno exactly how many people from there have tweeted Dana White but I know I signed up for twitter just to take part in the whole thing and there have been a number of fighters that we as a community have gotten on the Mark Hunt bandwagon.

It's crazy. I actually kinda hope he gets it.

Kris P Lettus 04-05-2012 05:47 PM

That would be horrible..

Shaved Monkey 04-05-2012 06:01 PM

I'd love it just because of the "Holy shit, did we actually just make this happen?" factor.

Here was today's post on the whole thing.

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Hi all! Last night, we made a little dent in the Twitterverse with our #RallyForMarkHunt movement.

For those of you not in the know, Alistair Overeem might not be able to fight Junior dos Santos at UFC 146 because of elevated levels of testosterone in his urine sample.

The message here is simple: we want someone who can naturally meet Alistair's artificial level of testosterone naturally. The only man for that job is Mark Hunt.

In my humble opinion, this is the most exciting option for the UFC heavyweight strap. Frank Mir doesn't have a prayer against dos Santos and is usually a contender with a win or two over so-so competition after losing a bout. Cain Velasquez just lost to dos Santos and needs another win or two to prove himself.

So really, who else does that leave us? Mark Hunt!

If you are against it, that is understandable. Frank Mir can be the more logical choice. But to suggest that Mark Hunt doesn't have a shot against dos Santos and that his three-fight winning streak has been replicated by many in the shallow pool that is the UFC's heavyweight division is laughable.

Regardless, if you can't do it for the love of Mark Hunt, do it for the social media experiment that it is. This has been an interesting trip that has even landed us on Yahoo. That is really something special and shows that we have made a dent in the proverbial armor of social media. Hopefully Dana is a man of his word and pays attention to the going ons of Twitter and MMA internet communities.

So that leads us to our final question: What can you do to help Mark Hunt? Well, there is a bunch of things you can do! MMA Junkie, Sherdog, and Bloody Elbow do radio shows today and calling in to explain the #RallyForMarkHunt trend and explain why you support the cause.

Also, feel free to bomb the comments of other blogs you belong to, such as MMA Junkie and Sherdog, with encouragement to tweet Dana White, Lorenzo Fertitta, the UFC, and various MMA outlets about the movement.

Finally, tweeting. Tweet anyone you can, especially Dana, Lorenzo, the UFC, MMA reporters, MMA sites, MMA fighters, boxers, kickboxers, celebrities who enjoy the sport, you name it! Make Twitter your bitch with the hashtag #RallyForMarkHunt! And try to include Dana's and Lorenzo's Twitter handles in your tweets.

We have already landed support from people like Ian McCall, John Wayne Parr, Mike Brown, our beloved Ben Saunders, Phil Baroni, and countless others. MMA media is supporting it, too! The UFC's official Australian Twitter page is behind the campaign. So join us and leave your tweeting, commenting, and calling successes in the #RallyForMarkHunt.

Also, follow Mark Hunt on Twitter! He can be found at @markhunt1974. He gladly appreciates all support and has even tweeted about the fanpost that set all of this off. All other fighters and MMA personalities can be found with a quick search on Twitter or Google! If anyone needs help, just say so in the comments and everyone who is in the campaign will be glad to help!

Our goals are to get the topic trending, along with just getting more notoriety with the MMA media. Everyone loves an underdog story. Lets make it happen, mutherfukers!

CSL 04-05-2012 09:11 PM

lol this headline

Quote:

NSAC Confirms That Alistair Overeem Has The Testosterone Of 14 Men

Krimzon7 04-05-2012 09:23 PM

Lol indeed. I think he gets around this hurdle and fights.....hopefully

RP 04-06-2012 03:56 AM

Lol Mark Hunt


F it. Why not right?

PrettyCool 04-06-2012 11:08 AM

Why do they say that Overeem having Testosterone of 14 men is unnatural or whatever? Maybe Overeem is that big and "manly" by nature, so if u compare gim with 14 average men, he can easily have 14 times the testesrone.

CSL 04-06-2012 11:25 AM

no

PrettyCool 04-06-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3817917)
no

Well John Cena probably can lift 14 times the weight that I can lift, hes not on steroids, so how is this not possible?

CSL 04-06-2012 11:38 AM

testosterone levels do not = strength

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 11:39 AM

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In Brief
STAFF AND WIRE REPORTS
Posted: Apr. 6, 2012 | 2:05 a.m.
MIXED MARTIAL ARTS

White: Against Overeem or not, dos Santos will defend UFC title

Ultimate Fighting Championship president Dana White said a heavyweight championship fight will take place as scheduled May 26 at the MGM Grand Garden with or without Alistair Overeem.

White said Thursday that Junior dos Santos will defend his title in the UFC 146 main event but that it's up to the Nevada Athletic Commission to determine whether Overeem will be the challenger.

Commission executive director Keith Kizer said the Dutch kickboxing champion can seek analysis of a second sample from his March 27 urine test.

Kizer said Wednesday that Overeem's first sample tested unacceptably high for testosterone and Overeem will need commission approval to fight dos Santos.

His representatives haven't responded to messages left through his Las Vegas lawyer, David Chesnoff.

Overeem knocked out Brock Lesnar in the first round of UFC 141 on Dec. 30 at the MGM Grand.


Crimson 04-06-2012 12:25 PM

So if Mir is named his replacment I wonder who will replace him against Cain? I suppopse they can almost just grab anyone. It seems everytime there's a stacked card someone either gets injured or tests positive and gets taken out.

I think Mir is a bigger threat at this point than Overeem anyway

CSL 04-06-2012 12:39 PM

dunno, I think JDS would kill him

I'd honestly like to see Mark Hunt fight him. not so much because I think he's the best challenger or anything but he clearly doesn't need a long camp and mainly because of his concrete fists. if he can Johnny One Bomb him, it'd be pretty fun to watch

Next Big Thing 04-06-2012 12:46 PM

It's a pretty shitty situation for JDS. His fight is a little over a month away and he doesn't know who he's facing. Mir presents a different challenge than Overeem because of his jiu jitsu, which is an aspect of JDS's game we haven't seen tested. With Overeem, he knows it's going to be more about the stand up.

PrettyCool 04-06-2012 12:50 PM

I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope that due to some miracle, Overeem is cleared to compete. I was really looking forward to this fight SO BAD. No one else can make up for Overeem.

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 12:53 PM

Cain

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 12:55 PM

Also, Mark Hunt is a huge mistake.. Sure he ground game is better than it was when he was in Pride but Dos Santos would murder him.. He has a punchers chance but so does Kimbo.. Why not just give him the shot??

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 12:56 PM

Or let Rampage come in at his natural weight and out of shape.. Cause that's what you'd get with Mark Hunt..

CSL 04-06-2012 12:58 PM

Cain Velasquez pretty much bores me to death. And Mark Hunt is a geezer. With concrete hands. This is pretty much my entire reasoning behind wanting to see him step in.

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 01:07 PM

Cain has knock out power, is a great wrestler, and is always in great shape..

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-06-2012 02:29 PM

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/225740/1.gif

MoFo 04-06-2012 03:24 PM

Yeah, was gonna say he already got bombed out by JDS in a round less than 6 months ago, no real need for a rematch of that one

PrettyCool 04-06-2012 04:02 PM

I dont want to see anyone other than Overeem fight :( I am completely turned off MMA now, no Lesnar, No Overeem, I aint interested in the other guys, they are BORING.

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3818385)
Yeah, was gonna say he already got bombed out by JDS in a round less than 6 months ago, no real need for a rematch of that one

He was injured..

Crimson 04-06-2012 07:06 PM

Even if he was injured, the result happened. Cain has to win his next fight and maybe another one to get a shot at JDS if he's still champ.

Damnit where's Lashley has he lost a fight yet? Lets hype him up as the next Brock

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 07:15 PM

He gassed out in a Strikeforce match and quit before the third..

His last fight was for Shark Fights..

No bullshit..

CSL 04-06-2012 07:50 PM

Lashley's rumoured to be Fedor's next opponent

Jura 04-06-2012 07:52 PM

He's still 7-1 though.

Mr. JL 04-06-2012 09:41 PM

I bet Dana would never have allowed Lesnar to retire out of his last remaining UFC contracted fight had this come to light sooner.

Kris P Lettus 04-06-2012 09:45 PM

No way Lesnar would get the shot before Cain or Mir after his last two fights..

James Steele 04-06-2012 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3818788)
No way Lesnar would get the shot before Cain or Mir after his last two fights..

Wanna bet? He draws which is all Dana White gives a shit about. Dana has shown time and time again he only gives opponent credibility and legitimacy lip service.

Crimson 04-07-2012 01:37 AM

Brock wouldnt get the title shot lol..Dana isnt that unfiar

RP 04-07-2012 02:20 AM

I would shit myself if they put Hendo in there with JDS

Krimzon7 04-07-2012 08:09 AM

So would jds! Lol

Next Big Thing 04-07-2012 11:51 AM

Brock wouldn't take that fight even if Dana asked. Dude's heart isn't in it anymore and this isn't the kind of sport where you can half ass it.

Next Big Thing 04-07-2012 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rectal Pertruder (Post 3818954)
I would shit myself if they put Hendo in there with JDS

Quote:

A few days after Alistair Overeem failed a drug test and likely cost himself a title shot, UFC officials have announced no replacement for his UFC 146 bout with heavyweight champion Junior Dos Santos.

However, there have been some interesting developments.

Veteran middleweight and light heavyweight Dan Henderson has expressed his interest in the bout, and UFC president Dana White seemingly has ruled out the possibility of Frank Mir stepping in.

UFC 146, of course, takes place May 26, and the pay-per-view main card airs from Las Vegas' MGM Grand Garden Arena. Overeem (36-11 MMA, 1-0 UFC) was expected to take on Dos Santos (14-1 MMA, 8-0 UFC) in the championship headliner, but the former Strikeforce and DREAM champ recently failed a surprise drug test (his T/E ratio was 14:1, well over the 6:1 cutoff), and the Nevada State Athletic Commission is now unlikely to license him for the fight.

In recent days, fans have launched campaigns to push for everyone from Mark Hunt (8-7 MMA, 3-1 UFC) to Fedor Emelianenko (33-4 MMA, 0-0 UFC) to Fabricio Werdum (15-5-1 MMA, 3-2 UFC) to be the replacement. However, many considered Mir (16-5 MMA, 14-5 UFC), who's currently slated to fight ex-champ Cain Velasquez (9-1 MMA, 7-1 UFC) on the UFC 146 main card, the leading candidate.

But UFC president Dana White seemed to discount that possibility in a recent tweet when responding to a fan.

"Mir vs. Cain will happen," he tweeted early this morning, suggesting he won't break up that matchup.

Perhaps the UFC could look in a different weight class. Henderson (29-8 MMA, 5-2 UFC), for example, "for sure" would take the fight if offered, he tweeted on Friday.

Henderson is on a 7-1 run that includes fights at middleweight, light heavyweight and heavyweight. The heavyweight win came over Emelianenko under the Strikeforce banner. Henderson scored a knockout win then signed with the UFC and topped light heavyweight Mauricio "Shogun" Rua in a "Fight of the Year" performance at UFC 139.

Henderson certainly has the marketability, and his recent credentials – including wins over then-Strikeforce champ Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante, Michael Bisping and Rich Franklin – speak for themselves. But even when fighting at heavyweight, Henderson weighed in at just 207 pounds. Dos Santos, by comparison, weighed 239 pounds for his title-clinching win over Velasquez in November.

Still, he may be a leading candidate. In a recent interview with MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com), Hunt said he doesn't expect to get the fight, and Emelianenko – who was unlikely anyway because of a contentious relationship between the UFC and the fighter's management – has been announced for a June 21 event in Russia, possibly against Bobby Lashley.

Additionally, the other top-level heavyweights from the UFC 146 main card – Roy Nelson (16-7 MMA, 3-3 UFC) and Antonio Silva (16-3 MMA, 0-0 UFC) – are coming off losses.

For more on UFC 146, stay tuned to the UFC Rumors section of the site.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/28149/ufc-...ill-happen.mma

Damn. Hendo never even crossed my mind as a possible opponent. A part of me wants to see it, but a part of me would rather see him wait and take on the winner of Jones/Evans. That's a pretty big height and weight disadvantage too.

Next Big Thing 04-07-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 3818690)
He gassed out in a Strikeforce match and quit before the third..

His last fight was for Shark Fights..

No bullshit..

He's supposed to be working with Josh Barnett now, so that's a good thing. I'd love to see him take on Fedor. If he wins that, Dana would definitely have to consider bringing him in to the UFC.

Kris P Lettus 04-07-2012 12:08 PM

http://urdirt.com/wp-content/uploads...ht-Anytime.jpg

Mr. C 04-07-2012 05:40 PM

Mir/Dos Santos & Silva/Velasquez. Not sure if they'd find somebody to fight Nelson or pull him from the card altogether, but this is the best way to go.

Kris P Lettus 04-07-2012 05:48 PM

It's not gonna be Mir..

http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_as...Mir_medium.png

Shaved Monkey 04-07-2012 05:50 PM

Looking good for MARK HUNT

Mr. C 04-07-2012 06:00 PM

Dana never said Velasquez/Mir will happen at UFC 146. He just said it "will happen." He may have meant a later time.

James Steele 04-07-2012 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3819223)
Brock wouldn't take that fight even if Dana asked. Dude's heart isn't in it anymore and this isn't the kind of sport where you can half ass it.

He'd take an asswhooping for a nice payday.

Next Big Thing 04-08-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3819445)
He'd take an asswhooping for a nice payday.

I dunno. The one thing I like and respect about Brock is the fact that he has pride and doesn't take kindly to losing. I think he would have stuck around if he was getting his asswhooped and still winning, but I believe Lesnar realized he wasn't going to be able to compete with the top guys and decided to walk away rather than stick around just to collect a check. That's pretty respectable.

In hindsight, MMA kind of missed out. When Lesnar came out of college, earning a living in MMA wasn't a viable option. Now, you have national champions like Bubba Jenkins and Olympians joining MMA teams like draft picks going pro. If Lesnar started training at 22 instead of 30, he'd be an icon.

Krimzon7 04-08-2012 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 3819912)
I dunno. The one thing I like and respect about Brock is the fact that he has pride and doesn't take kindly to losing. I think he would have stuck around if he was getting his asswhooped and still winning, but I believe Lesnar realized he wasn't going to be able to compete with the top guys and decided to walk away rather than stick around just to collect a check. That's pretty respectable.

In hindsight, MMA kind of missed out. When Lesnar came out of college, earning a living in MMA wasn't a viable option. Now, you have national champions like Bubba Jenkins and Olympians joining MMA teams like draft picks going pro. If Lesnar started training at 22 instead of 30, he'd be an icon.

Sadly though nobody would've cared as much without that wwe stint. He's doomed to this type of speculation forever.what if he ate veggies and his intestines didn't rot? What if he went straight to MMA? What if he could take a punch? IMO, this is a part of Brock's charm.

Crimson 04-08-2012 01:36 PM

lol..do intestines rot if you dont eat healthy? Shit im screwed too then :(

MoFo 04-08-2012 01:48 PM

Fancy Hendo's chances against JDS more than him vs Jones/Shad.

Crimson 04-08-2012 04:53 PM

Ill drool over Hendo vs. any of those 3

Kris P Lettus 04-08-2012 08:20 PM

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UFC heavyweight No. 1 contender Alistair Overeem will step in front of the Nevada State Athletic Commission on April 24, with the status of the UFC 146 main event to be determined soon after.
Overeem tested for elevated levels of testosterone during a pre-fight drug test recently. He'll have to explain to the NSAC why his levels were so high - and have a good reason - if he hopes to receive his fight licensen to face Junior dos Santos for the UFC heavyweight title.

Keith Kizer, Executive Director of NSAC, told The MMA Show recently about the date for the Overeem hearing. UFC president Dana White has confirmed that a decision will be made concerning dos Santos-Overeem after the hearing.

PrettyCool 04-09-2012 12:49 PM

I hope he stuns everyone with some sort of foulproof excuse.

Really doubt it for.

Come on Overeem, I wanna seeeee youuu :(

Next Big Thing 04-10-2012 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krimzon7 (Post 3819921)
Sadly though nobody would've cared as much without that wwe stint. He's doomed to this type of speculation forever.what if he ate veggies and his intestines didn't rot? What if he went straight to MMA? What if he could take a punch? IMO, this is a part of Brock's charm.

Speaking of Brock, I'm kind of interested in seeing the PPV buys between the upcoming WWE PPV and UFC 145 just to see if the Brock factor works for WWE.

James Steele 04-10-2012 08:44 AM

It will be interesting. There was definitely crossover from WWE to UFC when Brock came over, but I don't necessarily think that there is crossover from UFC to WWE. They might get some "old fans" back who love Brock, but most hardcore MMA guys resent Brock's success because of his WWE background and those are unlikely to start watching WWE.

Innovator 04-10-2012 10:52 AM

HENDOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Krimzon7 04-10-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3822239)
It will be interesting. There was definitely crossover from WWE to UFC when Brock came over, but I don't necessarily think that there is crossover from UFC to WWE. They might get some "old fans" back who love Brock, but most hardcore MMA guys resent Brock's success because of his WWE background and those are unlikely to start watching WWE.

I think most of the Just BLEED MMA fans are 'happy' that Brock has gone. It's ass backwards, I KNOW!

Kris P Lettus 04-11-2012 10:10 AM

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PrettyCool 04-11-2012 11:08 AM

Why arent steroids allowed tho?

U can eat protein supplements and stuff and its okay but u cant use steroids?

Why not let everyone use steroids and see who wins? It wont be an unfair advantage if everyone uses them.

Kris P Lettus 04-11-2012 11:41 AM

stfu

Jura 04-11-2012 04:38 PM

Jura fails TPWW drug test. Has testosterone levels of 1 pre-pubescent girl.

Funky Fly 04-11-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PrettyCool (Post 3823367)
Why arent steroids allowed tho?

U can eat protein supplements and stuff and its okay but u cant use steroids?

Why not let everyone use steroids and see who wins? It wont be an unfair advantage if everyone uses them.

What about pushing the boundaries of human potential? What about taking pride in accomplishing something great under your own power?

James Steele 04-11-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3823717)
What about pushing the boundaries of human potential? What about taking pride in accomplishing something great under your own power?

What about $$$ from being a box office draw from being a freak who bashes people's faces in.

PrettyCool 04-11-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3823717)
What about pushing the boundaries of human potential? What about taking pride in accomplishing something great under your own power?

Yeah but why not push those boundaries even further with chemical help ?

Funky Fly 04-11-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3823733)
What about $$$ from being a box office draw from being a freak who bashes people's faces in.

When was Josh Barnett's last big payday? The guy has the tools to be a top contender in the UFC but can't get licensed in a lot of states because of roids.

PrettyCool 04-11-2012 07:03 PM

Isnt Hendo technically the "top" guy now since he mauled Fedor?


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