The Amazing Spider-Man
 

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Dear jesus, this should have been done the first time around. :eek:

so is it a sequel or a retelling of the origin?

Retelling I believe. Basically starting over much in the way Batman Begins did with Batman.

This didn't have a thread? Wow.

Liked the kid rescue scene.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the reboot. I'm not crazy about how moody Peter Parker comes off, or how much they're harping on all the secrets about his parents (IMO that really diminishes the importance of Uncle Ben and Aunt May), but I'm really digging everything else I'm seeing.

I like that he's actually got a sense of humor as Spidey, I like that he's using mechanical web-shooters instead of the organic ones from the Raimi movies, I like that Gwen is the love interest instead of Mary Jane (who I'm sure they'll bring in later), and I like that they're starting off with a villain they haven't used before. So yeah, to me the positives outnumber the negatives, so I'm looking forward to it.

I don't think anyone they get for J. Jonah Jameson will do a better job than J. K. Simmons did in the other three movies though.

I don't really like the look of The Lizard.

From what I've heard, JJJ isn't going to be in the reboot, at least not until the next movie.

Saw the trailer when I saw The Avengers, ad got pretty stokedfor it. I was already excited before. I like the direction they are seemingly taking, and I am hoping it turns out to be a blast. Agree with mechanical based web shooters.

I think they did a perfect job with Aunt May last time as well.

Exactly. And there's no Mary Jane lovestory in this one yet.. His blonde GF is Gwen who was supposedly his former lover BEFORE marrying Mary Jane.

The reboots I think simply fix what the fans didn't like about the originals. Hell look at Burtons Batman. sure great movies but Nolan hit it out of the park.

I see Nads reading this thread :)

You expect Raimi to make something that's not shit?

Reboot.

No, they won't.

Yes.

And that's the unfortunate thing about the Raimi films. A lot of the supporting cast was s pot on and I'ma miss them.

Who was only introduced in Spider-Man 3 for some reason.

Also, there's no "supposedly." Gwen and Captain Stacy were a part of Spider-Man before Mary Jane. He also had a couple other love interests.

Batman Begins more or less fixed the problem of that last abomination. Both Batman and Spider-Man have been through a lot of various iterations. Probably only Superman's been through more.

Reboots aren't as big a deal when something been through like a dozen retellings.

I had no idea who Raimi was before Spiderman. I expect no one will remember him in ten years either. I hate him for the pure and simple fact that Spiderman 3 was a barely watchable clusterfuck.

As for what Begins did, Burton made the mistake of not ending it when he should have. With the Nolan films, he had access to special effects 20+ years more advanced then Burton so that needs to be taken into account as well.

Yeah, nobody will remember the Evil Dead guy in ten years.

Was that Curt Hawkins with the knife?

TIL that Raimi directed The Evil Dead.

I think Spider-Man 1 was not bad (the best thing about it was Willem Dafoe) and Spider-Man 2 was good, but not great. Spider-Man 3 was mediocre and dragged on.

This seems to focus on more things, creating more interesting sub-plots. He cracks jokes and uses more science. I like this more than the first 3 movies just from the looks of the trailer... and Emma Stone is super attractive.

Yeah, he's a shlock guy.

That's Sony, chap.

I do like that he could make 2 good Spidey movies and the last one he was influenced by Sony to adjust makes you hate him.

His Spidey movies weren't comic accurate, but they were generally good (even Spidey 3, imo).

Yes. It was only Sony.

Burton's movies were awesome for the time, BTW. I think they still hold up, even though I love Nolan's interpretation. That's all these are: interpretation of the characters.

Just found out Raimi did Legend of the Seeker. I officially loathe him for cannibalizing my favorite book series of all time.

I love Batman and Batman Returns. Even Batman Forever was watchable. Batman & Robin was...

But yeah, different directors and actors - it's pretty much in line with comics and different artists on any character.

I loved Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2. They were pretty great.

Amazing Spider-Man is looking good, but highly doubt it will best those two. Will most definitely best Spidey 3.

Amazing Spider-Man loses points for Andrew Garfield's terrifying hair. That thing scares me. Can't stand his hair.

Ill blame who I want thank you very much.

This is a debate I had with my wife which I convinced her to see my point of view. It was about Harry Potter 3 and 4 and how much I loathe them. Her argument was that it was the the interpretation of it to which I argued that not using the book or in this case, comic book as the basis of the script is only going to succeed in pissing off a lot of fans.

I got her to read the HP series after our argument and upon rewatching HP 3 and 4, She changed her view to side with me stating "I can definitely see why that third movie pisses you off now".

Do not mention that abomina NIPPLES. Fuck, thanks for making me picture that suit. asshole.

Lol.

It's a shame we don't get the same kind of "runs" as we do with comics, though. I mean, a run with an artist or writer can last for years of monthly issues. A run with a movie rarely passes the trilogy mark.

Also, I liked Val Kilmer as Bruce Wayne/Batman, even though the movie itself was kinda...Meh. I still enjoyed it, but....

To be fair, nothing's going to please the fans. Also, keep in mind the first rough cut of the first HP movie was four hours. There's no way to be as thorough as a book or even a comic series. You can't capture the same style.

Taking Spider-Man as an example, he's always had an internal monologue that's hard to catch onscreen. Not impossible, but the contrast of his worried thoughts and his massive bravado in a fight are part of what makes Spider-Man Spider-Man.

Plus, as Kal pointed out, there is a pretty big issue in terms of comics and voices. Early Batman was kind of a dick. Then he was sort of an iconic detective with fighting skills. Then he was a superhero. He's been a lot of things. Which Batman do you remain faithful to?

Same with Spider-Man. Hell, J Michael Strazynski had a run where Peter was an elemental Spider-totem of some sort.

Not to mention you had as many as five simultaneous comics with Spidey in them, all with different arcs (there were crossovers, but most of the time, the writing on spectacular vs Web of would be nominally different).

And now you have Allstar Batman and Robin (Source of the Goddamn Batman), a DC reboot of its universe, alternate universes, etc. There's Ultimate Spider-Man, Noir Spider-Man, alternate universe spideys, etc.

Spider-Man, even in source text, is open for interpretation. Same with Batman. Both Nolan's Batman and Burton's Batman draw from versions of Batman. Nolan's is probably more unfaithful, especially since it comes from the fantastic Batman: Year One. It's also fucking awesome, so who cares?

The Harry Potter movies are a whole nother animal, and I think faithfulness is one of the least of their problems.

@KK since I don't want to quote that massive post.

Fair enough with there being several different instances of the character going on at any given time. I think however most have their origin story pretty concrete and when that is screwed with I have issues.

With the comic book movies, I doubt it is possible to be completely accurate with what needs to be done. I think what needs to be done is to capture the characters as best as possible which in my opinion is what Nolan did perfectly. When I watch Batman Begins I don't see Christian Bale, I see Bruce Wayne/Batman. I see the character on the screen and my belief is suspended. Its how I always imagined Batman would look and act.

In capturing that, an incredible movie was made. If Peter Parker is captured within this it will go the same route I believe.

I loved the original trilogy (even Spidey 3), and originally hated the fact that this was being rebooted so early on. However, once the clips starting coming out, it has definitely taken my interest. Looks impressive visually, and the more scientific/wise-cracking direction at least means it won't be a clear rip-off of the Raimi movies.

God, that's barely even scratching the surface of how fucked JMS's run on Spider-Man was. That also included a bit where he turned into a human-spider monster, died, and then basically shit out a new version of himself with organic web-shooters and stingers (because spiders are apparently the same things as bees), another arc where it turned out Gwen Stacy fucked the Green Goblin and had his kids and never told anyone, and of course the infamous arc where Peter sells his marriage to the devil.

I know that a writer's run on a comic is just his personal interpretation, like you said, but Jesus.

Holy shit, I didn't know most of that.

To be fair, though, JMS was against One More Day. Not saying the rest of that shit is in any way good.

Yeah, the totem shit was clone saga bad.

In JMS's defense, yeah, he was against One More Day, and was pretty much forced into doing the stuff with Gwen and Osborn (the arc was done to introduce two villains that were supposed to be the long-lost children of Gwen and Peter, but Joe Quesada didn't want Pete to have kids because that would make him look too old, so he instead changed it to Osborn, which made it a thousand times worse) and fought in vain to have it retconned out almost immediately. And even though One More Day sucked, there's been a lot of good that's come from it in the aftermath--Dan Slott's run on Spidey since then has been phenomenal.

However, that doesn't change the fact that JMS wrote those comics, and said comics were fucking terrible.

I actually enjoyed all those story arcs. I even enjoyed the Clone Saga. Guess I'm easily amused... :shifty:

I still can't believe how forced it was.

Nobody in the marvel universe could save Aunt May except teh debul.

From a gunshot.

wot

Was definetly a fan of the whole Raimi triology yet unlike most the 2nd was my least favorite of them all even though Doc Oc was in it the story felt all too familiar to me. Anyhow I like the changes of his origin story and the small details thus far are enough to warrant a reboot but at te same time not so much to deviate from it. My first impression from the original trailer for this wasn't very good but now that we're approaching the release I'm a bit more optimistic then I was.

I loved Burton's take when I was a kid, but as I got older, I realized how little the movies were about him Batman and more about the villians, particularly Batman Returns, where Bats was literally there soley to give the baddies something to do.

I didnt care for the first or third Spidey films, but still love the second one. I think the reoot will be different enough to atleast stand on its own. T looks like it could be a better "Spider-Man" movie than the original, but I dont know if it will be a better film, if that makes sense.

This just feels more like 'Spider-Man' to me. Aside from the web-shooters that I never liked (though the shot effects look cool), this films seems really sci-fi which is what got growing up on certain Spidey media.

Personally, I LOVED his battle with Morlun.


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Spidey related tidbit: the first Spider-Man movie was released on May 3rd 2002.

Fucking crazy to believe that movie is already ten years old!!! :eek: :(

Just keep swinging...Just keep swinging...Just keep swinging, swinging, swinging...what do we do? We swing, swing, swing.

Didn't really like the Raimi Spider-Man flicks at all, especially the third, I'm not the biggest Spidey fan in the world but alot of the little changes annoyed the fuck out of me, we can accept this kid gained superpowers from a radioactive spider bite but not that he's a boy genius capable of creating web shooters:| The fact he doesn't look 30 kinda helps sway my opinion of the reboot too, hyped up for it probably on par with the Avengers.

And Emma Stone > Kirsten Dunst.

I personally still like the Raimi movies for what they were: campy fun call-backs to the old days of Lee and Ditko. It's easy to look at them now as inferior to stuff like The Dark Knight or the Avengers, but before the Spider-Man movies, nobody had actually put any effort into making genuinely good superhero movies in nearly a decade. Most of the superhero movies that came out in the gulf between the Tim Burton Batman movies and the Raimi Spider-Man movies were cheap trash, and some of the rejected scripts were unreadable messes (ever read James Cameron's script for a Spider-Man movie? Or better yet, all the rejected scripts for a Superman reboot in the 90s?) So as cheesy as they are, the first set of Spider-Man movies were still a huge part in making the superhero genre more respectable (and more profitable, for that matter)

I mean, I still have huge issues with a lot of stuff in them (Green Goblin's horrible costume), especially in the third movie (the pointless retcon where Sandman killed Uncle Ben, the atrocious amnesia angle with Harry, turning MJ into a jealous bitch, introducing Gwen Stacy and her father two movies too late, shoe-horning in Venom for no reason other than because the producers wanted them there....and what the hell was up with the musical number?!). But even then, there were some awesome moments. The bit where he saves Gwen from the collapsing building was great, and the fight between black-suited Spidey and Sandman in the subway kicked all kinds of ass. While Spider-Man 3 was still a bad movie overall, I've gotta at least give credit to the parts that didn't suck.

Also, J.K. Simmons as J. Jonah Jameson.

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Hell, I should've opened with that.

I think because i knew a little from the comic books it soured me on a lot of stuff, not as much as the X flicks but i knew alot of the stuff was 'wrong' and the casting annoyed me a little too, the leads at least everyone else you can't fault, i think i just wanted to enjoy the movies way too much. Can't fault the influence it had though, some fucking terrible comic book movies in the 90s, Nick Fury makes me shudder at the thought.


After watching Oz i genuinly worried what Simmons would do to:-\

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Fuck me that second clip scared the shit outta me, even though I knew it was gonna happen.

Like that they're playing the monster angle with horror tropes. That was expected with Raimi having Venom but...

2nd video is removed

I take it the second one's Lizard-related?

Yeah but that was officially released. wtf

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I have no real feelings one way or the other on that clip.

Watching Spiderman use a cellphone looks weird.

What would you have him do?

Phone booth.

Blue tooth.

black suit...Phonebooth black suit gold tooth Whoooooooooooooooooooooooo Weee

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frigging Hulu at work...

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Too easily hacked. Could you imagine if someone cracked Peter's phone and discovered the pictures of him naked except for the Spider-Man mask?

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Holy... Shit...

That looks incredible.

Spider-Man 2 is one of my favourite video games, and this basically looks like they've gone back to that formula. Except with graphics that'll make SM2 look like a Master System.

Holy fucking sweet shit I'm seriously gonna consider finally upgrading from my PS2 and getting a modern games console.

the fighting and swinging is basically exactly like archam city

The fighting yes. The Spidey Vision thing is similar to AA/AC's preset grapple points.

But the swinging is all Spidey. I'm only nerd-sad that you can't swing from line to line Tarzan style anymore, which was possible in Spider-Man 2 as something of a secret move. Ah well.

Anything that emulates Batman's combat style is A-okay. This and Captain America make a good bet there.

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Awesome.

Still think it's too early to reboot Spiderman.

I do to, but as much as I don't like it being rebooted already, all these clips have definitely got me fired up for this film. I love that they have a lot more of the comedy gags from the comics.

I'm not a massive gamer by any means but that video makes me want to get that game and just swing around for hours and hours.

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Splooge.

The pre-order bonus is Stan Lee:D

Still not a fan of the visual direction of the movie, but it seems they have Spider-Man down pretty well.

I like that he is more of a loud mouth in this one. You're not doing it right unless the villain is telling spider-man to shut up in frustration.

Disney, call Sony; that kid is an Avenger.

Ya, this Spiderman is waaay more fun than what Tobey turned out to be.

Haven't watched any of these clips you guys have been posting, so I will take your words for it.

Eric Foreman as Venom stills makes me disgusted.

Went to see it just now, good movie.



Also some after-credits as well

I absolutely loved ASM. I'll post a full review later, but damn, I enjoyed it.

Great Movie, was very hesitant to see it because I was on the Avengers high, but it delivered.

Loved it

@ Gray:

You realize the Uncle Ben bit is basically in every Spidey origin ever? How does one complain about that?

liked this Spiderman better, because SPIDERMAN was better. Wise cracking, New York Accent, long body...this kid just belongs in a red/blue spandex suit

I havent seen the new film as of yet. However I cant see it topping the first 3 in terms of action and box office revenue. I believe the Spiderman 2 may be the 2nd highest grossing Spiderman film of all time, and I just can't see this new one reaching even that level.

The Amazing Spiderman made $35 MILLION in the United States. ON TUESDAY.

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LOS ANGELES (AP) — "The Amazing Spider-Man" has swung into action with $35 million domestically in its first day — a record for a film opening on Tuesday.
The new launch for the Marvel Comics superhero outdid the previous best Tuesday debut of $27.9 million for "Transformers," which also opened the day before the Fourth of July in 2007.
Box-office trackers had projected that "The Amazing Spider-Man" might earn around $120 million in its first six days, through the end of Fourth of July weekend. But its strong start indicates it could do considerably more.
The original "Transformers" went on to do $155.4 million domestically through Fourth of July weekend, which included receipts from Monday night previews before its official Tuesday debut.
"Transformers: Dark of the Moon" opened the week before the Fourth of July last year and pulled in $180.7 million in just over six days.
The opening-day results show the resilience of the Spider-Man brand, which set box-office records from 2002 to 2007 with the three films directed by Sam Raimi and starring Tobey Maguire as the web-slinging superhero.
After a falling out between Raimi and distributor Sony on a fourth film, the franchise started over, with Marc Webb directing and Andrew Garfield slipping into Spider-Man's red-and-blue suit.
"The Amazing Spider-Man" retells the story of how a bite from a radioactive spider endows gangly teen Peter Parker with super strength, agility and senses. The film co-stars Emma Stone, Rhys Ifans, Martin Sheen and Sally Field.
Some critics had argued that it was too soon to reboot the franchise, just five years after Raimi and Maguire's "Spider-Man 3." But good reviews for "The Amazing Spider-Man" and a solid box-office start should put the carping to rest on the film, which also had a strong head-start overseas last week with about $50 million in a handful of international markets.
Debuting on a Tuesday, "The Amazing Spider-Man" is far down the list of best opening days, since most movies premiere on Friday as the weekend kicks off.
Last summer's "Harry Potter" finale had the best single-day start ever with $91.1 million. It's followed by last May's "The Avengers" with $80.8 million on its way to a record $207.4 million opening weekend.
"Spider-Man 3" opened on a Friday in May 2007, taking in $59.8 million on day one and $151.1 million for the weekend, which was a record at the time.
"The Amazing Spider-Man" is the middle chapter in Hollywood's superhero summer, which opened with Disney and Marvel's "The Avengers," whose worldwide receipts have climbed to $1.45 billion. On July 20, DC Comics and Warner Bros. debut "The Dark Knight Rises," the third and final Batman movie from director Christopher Nolan, starring Christian Bale as the masked vigilante.

just got back from seeing this. Much better than i thought, and Garfield has officially become Spiderman. Couldnt help but keep thinking how awesome the banter would be between Spidey and Stark in a movie.

Great to hear.

Just got back from this, Andrew Garfield gets the Scott Roberts Seal of Approval

Went and saw this on opening day, took my 5 year old son and we both loved it. I have to agree this was soo much better than the other spiderman movies. I cant wait for the next one to come out.

Finally got my review for Amazing Spider-Man up and posted on my blog. Check it.

Sure, why not?

Ok you have a very annoying sidebar that blocks my vertical scroll bar.

It's.... Amazing!

I enjoyed it. Garfield is perfect as Peter Parker / Spiderman. I never could take Tobey seriously - he just reminded me of 'The Wimpy Kid'. And in turn, the movies were more date flick, or mushy. (As an aside, ever since Nolan's Batman series, the whole trend of making superheroes a bit more realistic and believable has intrigued me)


@ Nowhere Man: Your review sums up most of my observations. Martin Sheen and Dennis Leary were excellent. Emma Stone and the Gwen Stacy character work better than Mary Jane simply because there's more for her to do. Its a well rounded character rather than the hackneyed love interest / damsel-in-distress.

This retelling was far more believable as well. You know why Tobey Spidey defeated Bonesaw McGraw? Because it was a fucking movie. Do you really think someone could destroy the Macho Man? :-)

Yeah, sorry about that. Not really sure what I can do about that thing.

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GREAT movie. Although one thing sort of bugged me: it's been six or seven years since the last time I was in NYC, but are there really that many lizards just running around the streets of Manhattan?

Of course.

Saw this yesterday and I thought it was great. I've never really cared for Spiderman as a character, but they actually had me interested in him. I think I actually liked this better than the Avengers.