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Ogen 05-27-2012 09:44 AM

European Championship 2012
 

Not long to go until the fun starts and we get a few weeks of non stop football, shall be slightly pissed off at being stuck in Australia for it as I imagine had I been at home the last year this would be looking like a fucking amazing idea for a summer holiday.

Ireland in a major tournament for the first time in 10 years but given a major task from day 1 with a tough tough group of Spain, Italy, Croatia. Can't exactly have too many aspirations of qualifying but if Spain can beat both of them it'll give us a fighting chance, have Croatia first so if we don't win that it'll be us out in the Group Stage

England to bottle it again and get Hodgson sacked by the media within months of getting the job would be hilarious.

Spain still favourites but with no Villa and Torres being Torres the past year you'd ask some questions. Then again when you've Llorente to stroll in it doesn't seem so bad, that young German team from the last World Cup should be ready to try make a big impact.

  1. Group 1
  2. Poland
  3. Czech Republic
  4. Greece
  5. Russia
  1. Group 2
  2. Netherlands
  3. Denmark
  4. Portugal
  5. Germany
  1. Group 2
  2. Spain
  3. Ireland
  4. Italy
  5. Croatia
  1. Group 4
  2. Ukraine
  3. England
  4. France
  5. Sweden
SPOILER: show

Friday 8th June
Poland v Greece
17:00
BBC One, BBC One HD 16:15
Russia v Czech Rep.
19:45
ITV
Tuesday 12th June
Greece v Czech Rep.
17:00
ITV
Poland v Russia
19:45
ITV
Saturday 16th June
Czech Rep. v Poland
19:45
BBC One, BBC One HD 19:30
Greece v Russia
19:45
BBC Three, BBC HD 19:30
Saturday 9th June
Netherlands v Denmark
17:00
BBC One, BBC One HD 16:30
Germany v Portugal
19:45
BBC One, BBC One HD 19:30
Wednesday 13th June
Denmark v Portugal
17:00
ITV
Netherlands v Germany
19:45
BBC One, BBC One HD 19:00
Sunday 17th June
Denmark v Germany
19:45
ITV
Portugal v Netherlands
19:45
ITV
Sunday 10th June
Spain v Italy
17:00
ITV
R. of Ireland v Croatia
19:45
ITV
Thursday 14th June
Italy v Croatia
17:00
BBC One, BBC One HD 16:45
Spain v R. of Ireland
19:45
ITV
Monday 18th June
Croatia v Spain
19:45
BBC Three, BBC HD 19:30
Italy v R. of Ireland
19:45
BBC One, BBC One HD 19:00
Monday 11th June
France v England
17:00
ITV
Ukraine v Sweden
19:45
BBC One, BBC One HD 19:00
Friday 15th June
Ukraine v France
17:00
ITV
Sweden v England
19:45
BBC One, BBC One HD 19:00
Tuesday 19th June
England v Ukraine
19:45
ITV
Sweden v France
19:45
ITV


Hope this all works right. And come on you boys in green.

OssMan 05-28-2012 10:00 AM

Go Netherlands

El Capitano Gatisto 05-28-2012 10:37 AM

Group 1 is such a shambles.

But anyway, can't wait for this. The win over Bosnia on Saturday allowed me to generate a little bit of excitement after being pretty much down about Ireland's chances, but the options we have up front and with McClean coming into the side have made me feel a bit better. Our defence can keep any side out and we have players who can hurt teams at the other end. The central midfield is a fucking disaster and the game vs. Spain is likely to be one of the most painful things I've ever seen, but I think we can get something out of the Italy and Croatia games.

Gertner 05-28-2012 06:23 PM

France!!!!

MoFo 05-28-2012 06:37 PM

Germany/France final.

England out at group stage.

Emperor Smeat 05-28-2012 06:49 PM

Looks like they're back to using the traditional format for the playoff round considering Euro 08 had teams from the same group meeting in the Semis instead of the usual Finals.

A lot of places seem to be agreeing that whoever wins the Group of Death (Group B/2) would be the heavy favorites to win the whole thing.

Ogen 05-29-2012 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by El Capitano Gatisto (Post 3871317)
Group 1 is such a shambles.

But anyway, can't wait for this. The win over Bosnia on Saturday allowed me to generate a little bit of excitement after being pretty much down about Ireland's chances, but the options we have up front and with McClean coming into the side have made me feel a bit better. Our defence can keep any side out and we have players who can hurt teams at the other end. The central midfield is a fucking disaster and the game vs. Spain is likely to be one of the most painful things I've ever seen, but I think we can get something out of the Italy and Croatia games.

Not allowing myself to think anything too optimistic, that attitude will swiftly change if we can go and beat Croatia. Some sort of USA 94 esque heroics against the Italians then becomes a possibility. Hope he goes and starts McClean and doesn't decide to go with what he knows.

4:45am kick offs over here for the group games which'll be a bastard but at least the first ones a bank holiday Monday, think I'll be taking the Friday off work for the Spain game and I'll decide between all night in the pub and a day off for the Italy one or getting up and watching it before work depending on if we can qualify.

OssMan 05-29-2012 08:13 AM

If the schedule is anything like the Champion's League and I don't feel like converting all the times to my time zone right now, I will be able to watch 0 of these games.

CSL 05-29-2012 08:28 AM

2nd games are, 2 games per day starting at 12pm and 2.45pm EST whatever use that is to you

OssMan 05-29-2012 08:40 AM

Yep will basically never be able to watch sweet

The Mackem 06-01-2012 07:40 AM

Have a good feeling about the Dutch, if they get out of that group. Group One might throw out a surprise into the rest of the tournament - I'd like to think the Czech's (got a couple of filler players in fantasy football) but could possibly be Russia.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-01-2012 07:51 AM

Come on you Danes.

http://www.soccerhairstyles.com/hair...es-500x390.jpg

El Capitano Gatisto 06-01-2012 07:55 AM

I've got a tenner on France/Benzema top scorer and a fiver on Lewandowski top scorer. Lewandowski has been in great form and Poland have the easiest group. Hoping he bags a hat-trick against the Czechs maybe and then a couple against Greece, ties up a few quid for me.

I just have a feeling about France this year. They are a bunch of wankers obviously but Benzema is probably all round the top striker in the tournament at the moment, just ahead of Van Persie (who will likely play on the wing to accomodate Huntelaar) so it feels like it could happen, plus they have Ribery, Ben Arfa and Nasri in midfield.

Spain having Puyol and Villa out is a problem for them, I think they could be pretty tired and no team has ever won 3 major international tournaments in a row, mainly because it's so hard to do. They may have to rely on excellent players who haven't played a major role for them before, like Cazorla, Fabregas, Silva and Llorente, the likes of Xavi and Iniesta could be pretty fatigued and Torres still isn't at his best.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-01-2012 08:15 AM

Personally think it's going to take a big effort from someone in the knockout stages to stop Germany winning it. Without necessarily having one massive player to carry them through, they've got an entire squad of extremely capable players. Good striking options all round really with the obvious names Gomez, Podolski and Klose as well as Schurrle who looks promising. Midfield is good enough to go toe-to-toe with Spains midfield in terms of retaining posession and working the ball forward and they've got a nice solid back four, backed by probably the best goalkeeper in football currently.

Spain will miss Puyol, but not as much as a lot of people seem to think if you ask me. Ramos will most likely take that centre back position with Arbeloa slotting in at right back which has done Madrid pretty well throughout the past season. Javi Martinez is also very capable at dropping back into a centre back role. Leaving Soldado out of the squad was a mistake for them though, I really feel he could have gotten the golden boot had he been selected.

El Capitano Gatisto 06-01-2012 08:29 AM

I don't think Neuer is even close to the best goalkeeper in the world at this point, many people seemed to wet themselves over his first leg performance vs. United last year for Schalke then ignore that he was terrible in the second leg. I've not been particularly impressed by the guy since he went to Bayern. Casillas is still the top goalkeeper in the world for me and Buffon too when he is fit. Petr Cech has got back up there too over the past season or so, he's been re-programmed.

Germany have issues in regards to some of their major players having problems when it comes to the crunch. Spain had this problem for years prior to Euro 2008, and the Bayern Munich contingent of Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Muller and Gomez appear to have a similar issue that they reach a certain point then can't finish the job. Over the past 5 years they have lost numerous semis and finals for club and country and it takes a toll.

That said they do have an exceptionally talented midfield with Goetze, Ozil and Kroos (Kroos is extremely impressive) supported by Schweinsteiger and Khedira. Up front I don't rate Gomez, despite his goalscoring record, and wouldn't trust him to finish in a tight game (see the CL final, the away leg vs. Real Madrid and pretty much every game he has ever played for Germany at a tournament). I don't think it's straightforward for Germany at all as they lack that strong, reliable presence up front. Podolski is flakey and Klose is getting on a bit now and doesn't really fit in with the pacey youth ethic of their attack. They also have a major problem in regards to Lahm being their only decent full-back and their defence being pretty feeble beyond Hummels. I'm not a fan of Badstuber or Boateng and I think Mertesacker is complete shite. Beyond their first 11 in general their squad quality drops off rapidly, so they need to stay injury free.

Spain have by far the strongest and most talented squad, however, Ramos at centre-back is a disaster waiting to happen. He's a good player but his temperament is dreadful. Pique has been in wretched form all season and has been suffering from injuries. I think they may have issues with the Puyol-Pique partnership being broken up.

Basically I think it's very open for many reasons. I wouldn't even be surprised to see England do better than expected, with expectations at rock bottom. With Joe Hart and when Wayne Rooney returns, they have two players in a solid overall system than could win games enough to get to the semis, and from there anything can happen.

In conclusion, get your money on Ireland/Robbie Keane top scorer.

RiX1024 06-02-2012 04:05 PM

England out on penalties me thinks.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-02-2012 04:36 PM

I'll be putting money on Rooney getting sent off playing with Hodgson tactics. Whoever's up front will be extremely isolated and Rooney will grow frustrated and begin chasing after the ball and probably make a couple of rash tackles, or even lash out at someone. Even if The Owl uses Rooney in the hole just behind Carroll or Welbeck he'll probably still get frustrated having to try and chase possession, albeit a bit deeper.

Team Sheep 06-03-2012 09:17 PM

Can't wait for this. Really hope the Danes get hammered. Spent the past year with a couple of really obnoxious Danish guys so it would be great for them to shut up. Oh and that England get knocked out early as usual of course ;) Absolutely no hype surrounding England this year though so I dunno, they could be dangerous. I doubt Spain will win a 3rd tournament in a row.

Holland to win.

Ogen 06-08-2012 07:51 AM

Excited!

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 12:44 PM

On Paddy Power you can choose the 4 group winners, and if one team lets you down you get your money back. Going with the favourites Russia, Germany, Spain and France will get you about 19/1.

OssMan 06-08-2012 12:45 PM

here we go greece my motherland

#BROKEN Hasney 06-08-2012 12:51 PM

Worst opening ceremony ever for anything. Wouldn't be shocked if it came out that Sixx drunkenly planned it and that's why we haven't seen him.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 12:53 PM

GREEK SHOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

SammyG 06-08-2012 01:31 PM

Trololololol, Greece. Oh well, won it 8 years ago.

Mike the Metal Ed 06-08-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3876698)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/...Kasper-007.jpg

Denmark AND Ireland.

CSL 06-08-2012 01:45 PM

lol this referee, sent off like 15-16 players in 19 La Liga matches and now this. And Greece are fucked now, they have problems scoring more than one with 11 players.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 01:46 PM

That was never a red at all. He'd be very unlucky to even have a yellow card after both challenges.

Mike the Metal Ed 06-08-2012 01:48 PM

And we have our first referee to completely lose the plot this tournament. Ridiculous.

OssMan 06-08-2012 01:50 PM

Opening game is atrocious

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 01:58 PM

Scott Parker is on tv. Cringggggggggge.

Mike the Metal Ed 06-08-2012 02:17 PM

"Alan Birchenall" just phoned me up to remind me to renew my Leicester season ticket. As a result I missed the equaliser.

SammyG 06-08-2012 02:20 PM

Greece just needs to hold on for this tie here. Awful officiating, indeed. Both of those probably weren't even fouls, let alone cards.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 02:27 PM

Oh shiiiiiit

CSL 06-08-2012 02:27 PM

oh shit

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 02:28 PM

Why is Jerzy Dudek not in the Poland squad?!?! Surely even at 39 and retired he's still one of the top 3 goalkeepers they have.

CSL 06-08-2012 02:29 PM

this never would have happened with Tomasz Kuszczak

CSL 06-08-2012 02:29 PM

STOP MAKING SCOUSE VERSIONS OF MY POSTS

CSL 06-08-2012 02:29 PM

SAVEDDDDDDD

SammyG 06-08-2012 02:38 PM

Wow, karagounis.

SammyG 06-08-2012 02:38 PM

Salpigiddis is ballin, though. Needs to start next game.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 02:58 PM

Shouldn't Szczesny be getting pelted with abuse for being shown celebrating that pen save? It's no different from Suarez handballing it against Ghana and then celebrating.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 02:58 PM

Well, actually maybe because he was celebrating in the tunnel rather than in front of everyone, but still.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-08-2012 05:30 PM

http://h11.abload.de/img/untitled-7ov8ef.gif

CSL 06-08-2012 05:32 PM

hiiiii

Emperor Smeat 06-08-2012 05:36 PM

Well Russia looks like the team to beat in Group A.

El Capitano Gatisto 06-08-2012 06:09 PM

Russia will walk it. Already knew Czech Republic and Greece were shite, turns out Poland are too. Poland should edge 2nd place because Lewandowski clearly does have a bit of class up front.

MoFo 06-09-2012 11:59 AM

Chesney had a right meltdown.

Hope he doesn't turn into Fabianski #2 for us.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-09-2012 01:26 PM

Yesssssssss

Emperor Smeat 06-09-2012 05:40 PM

:-\ Portugal lost. Tough match regardless and I think historically Germany has a strong record against them.

Denmark "stealing" a win over the Netherlands was the bigger news since it makes the German-Dutch match even bigger now.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-09-2012 07:07 PM

Denmark are going to win the whole thing!

http://www.soccerhairstyles.com/hair...es-500x390.jpg

Ogen 06-09-2012 11:52 PM

Got butterflys, gonna be a long nights drinking before a 5am start, really really really want a win tonight.

El Capitano Gatisto 06-10-2012 07:11 AM

I can't drink as I have an exam tomorrow at 9.30am, this is going to be fucking stressful.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-10-2012 01:13 PM

so weird to see a black playing for Italy

El Capitano Gatisto 06-10-2012 01:23 PM

The Italians agree with you. They've made their feelings known about it more than a few times.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-10-2012 02:11 PM

Well Balotelli's not doing himself any favors right now.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-10-2012 02:23 PM

Ughhhh, forgot they did away with the analogue signal and I can't PIP in Freeview to have the football and the F1 one.

I may as well be Ethiopian.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-10-2012 03:19 PM

Got it all set up now thankfully.

Got a good feeling on Ireland at least getting out of the group. Hope I'm right.

Do hate ITV's coverage of anything sports. Stupid Adrian Chiles.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-10-2012 03:38 PM

I will root for Ireland in this group.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-10-2012 03:50 PM

I apologise for my optimism possibly cursing you.

Probably deserve it for their horrific clashes with riot police.


El Vaquero de Infierno 06-10-2012 03:52 PM

GO ON CROATIA!

Supreme Olajuwon 06-10-2012 04:05 PM

thats a goal

Supreme Olajuwon 06-10-2012 04:06 PM

you know thats right

#BROKEN Hasney 06-10-2012 04:06 PM

That was. Shocking defending by Croatia. Nice bouncy blonde girl in the crowd for Ireland.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-10-2012 04:13 PM

ESPN announcer: "This weather is perfect for getting on your backside and sliding in."

CSL 06-10-2012 05:18 PM

had a powercut at 1-1, comes back on at 3-1, pfffttt

Mike the Metal Ed 06-10-2012 05:21 PM

http://l1.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/LH...615471-p2.jpeg

A LEICESTER CITY PLAYER SCORES DURING THE EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP.

Team Sheep 06-10-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3886311)
I apologise for my optimism possibly cursing you.

Probably deserve it for their horrific clashes with riot police.


"Down wid dis torta ting" surely.

Team Sheep 06-10-2012 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hasney (Post 3886328)
That was. Shocking defending by Croatia.

Because of that loud as hell whistle more than likely. They all froze and turned away like the play was dead.

Ogen 06-11-2012 03:31 AM

Well thats a bit shit.

El Capitano Gatisto 06-11-2012 11:14 AM

Terrible performance last night but not particularly surprising, I've seen Ireland been outplayed like that numerous times over the past couple of years but somehow get away with it. Usually a combo of Dunne and Given keeps the opposition out and we sneak a goal at the other end. Last night the defending was just crap, the midfield was utterly non-existent. The Irish central midfield is fucking pathetic, they have no ability on the ball, no mobility and they can't get near even half-decent footballers. I've moaned for ages now that James McCarthy hasn't been settled into this side, nor has Wes Hoolahan been given a chance, nor has Ciaran Clarke been given any game time in any meaningful way. Trapp persists with these two wankers for whatever reason, even though they are basically shit players.

The Spain game will be fucking horrifying. Spain can name their score, essentially.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 12:38 PM

I'd rather watch Liverpool win a coin toss than see England win the Euro's but I'm considering pulling for England after that little Gerrard video package. Would be happy for him.

OssMan 06-11-2012 12:49 PM

I'm really not that fond of England aside from Gerrard but god I hate the fucking French.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 12:51 PM

wooo France

wooo Ribery's ugly face

wooo Ian Darke calling the match

CSL 06-11-2012 12:53 PM

of all the Brits I expect Americans to know of, Ian Darke isn't one of them

CSL 06-11-2012 12:54 PM

and come on Assmani Toomer please, Gerrard might be the most unlikable player in the squad after John Terry. Danny Welbeckkkkk, Danny Welbeckkkk

El Capitano Gatisto 06-11-2012 12:55 PM

I'm going to boo God Save The Queen. Fuck her and fuck the jubilee. Wow, a rich woman who goes on holiday all year has stayed alive for 60 years.

CSL 06-11-2012 12:56 PM

when I grow up, I want to be a rich woman who goes on holiday all year

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3887807)
of all the Brits I expect Americans to know of, Ian Darke isn't one of them

He works for ESPN now suckaaaaaaaaa

also he did the call of Landon Donovan's goal against Algeria in the World Cup so he's got a permanent place in my heart

CSL 06-11-2012 12:58 PM

Franck Ribery's face is so fucked up it looked like he was singing the national anthem before it had even started

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 12:58 PM

Also holy shit, never realized that Laurent Blanc looks exactly like TPWW poster mitchables.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3887808)
and come on Assmani Toomer please, Gerrard might be the most unlikable player in the squad after John Terry. Danny Welbeckkkkk, Danny Welbeckkkk

Ashley Cole

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 01:00 PM

Still can't believe that Roy Hodgson is managing England. Going to be some ridiculously boring matches coming up.

Except for watching any closeups of his owl face.

CSL 06-11-2012 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3887821)
Ashley Cole

do people still care about hating him after Cheryl Cole fucked him off and given he's a bit good?

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 01:09 PM

Most people just tend to think he's a bit of a blirt I think. I never cared about the Cheryl Cole stuff at all, just never liked him.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 01:10 PM

But then again I don't like many people.

CSL 06-11-2012 01:10 PM

lol blirt

El Vaquero de Infierno 06-11-2012 01:15 PM

Milner, so close.

CSL 06-11-2012 01:15 PM

properrrr English finish from James Milner

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 01:18 PM

Oxxx :'(

OssMan 06-11-2012 01:24 PM

Jermaine Defoe is maybe the other player I like on England since he plays for Tottenham. I don't like Ian Darke, I thought his call for that Donovan goal was terrible. I watched that game in Spanish anyway. I wish these games were televised on the Spanish channel like they were for the World Cup.

I agree about God Save The Queen, that is an awful anthem. Do British posters know that there is an American tune "My Country tis of thee" taken from that same melody. Nice move by Alex OxMan Chamberlain there though

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 01:30 PM

Well fuck

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 01:30 PM

Gerrard hasn't put a cross in like that from a set-piece for Liverpool in 3 years :'(

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 01:35 PM

Trying to watch this game while also watching a bar review lecture on contracts and sales. Luckily I'm not missing anything because France can't do shit once they get near the box.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 01:35 PM

Until that

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 01:39 PM

Cracking goal.

El Vaquero de Infierno 06-11-2012 01:39 PM

Frog bastards

Supreme Olajuwon 06-11-2012 01:39 PM

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH

CSL 06-11-2012 01:40 PM

speaking of unlikable players

Corporate CockSnogger 06-11-2012 01:41 PM

Yeahh the French have just as many unlikable players as England.

SammyG 06-11-2012 02:10 PM

lol Gerrald flop. Soccer can be so irritating with all these dives.


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