In-ring, Antonio Cesaro is the best wrestler in WWE.
 

Yup. It's true. I'm drunk, and I really just wanted to say that. Who is better? Short answer, no one.

Heath Slater.

Conversely, Cesaro is the worst on the mic.

I think Del Rio can give Ceasro a run for his money, as far as in ring work goes.

In all honesty, Del Rio is definitely the best in the ring.

Randy Orton by far.

Del Rio can go, but he has the dullest promos, but you already knew that.
Cesaro is the most impressive new guy in the ring, Sandow the best on the mic, and Ryback the, er, one with the best push.

Honestly, I don't think he's the best, but I feel like Sheamus deserves a mention in this thread at the moment.

CM Punk or Chris Jericho if he was active.




I will agree that Heath Slater deserves an honorable mention and even a most improved in 2012 award. He made the jobbing to the stars gimmick work so well. 3MB went from a "wft" to a "hell yeah!" and his in ring work has increasingly got better. I saw him live, besides Dolph Ziggler he was the best seller on the show.

Oh yeah, and Dolph Ziggler deserves to be mentioned.

Tyson Kidd.

I've said this before, but every week this guy is innovating and trying new things, and the things he already does, he does perfectly. Everything he does looks incredibly crisp and polished. The guy is incredible in the ring. The only thing holding him back, besides his size, is his god-awful mic skills.

Cesaro definitely belongs "up there" though, and is overall a lot more well-rounded than Kidd.

I support the support for Tyson Kidd

Daniel Bryan.

Cesaro has been way better than I imagined he could be. He's right up there with Del Rio for me. I mean, how many guys can make Sin Cara work botch free?

I don't know anything about technical wizardry, but from the standpoint of someone who doesn't know what "workrate" is, CM Punk is best in the ring atm. At least most entertaining.

Cesaro is awesome too, but I like Punk more.

Really want to see Cesaro Vs Undertaker for some bizzare reason.

Dolph Ziggler

I love Cesaro, but no one is better in the ring than CM Punk.....

Sin Cara is the best

:foc:to anyone that feels differently

Antonio is in the main event of Tribute to the Troops against John Cena... pretty bold move by WWE, awesome.

Anyone but Jayman that is.

That guy is alright.

Which Sin Cara?

The one that wasn't vanquished by the other.

He wasn't man enough to wear the mantle.

I love you too

Is Antonia Cesaro Antonio’s twin sister? :shifty:

Randy Orton is better.

Del Rio, Ziggler, Orton, Punk, all good wrestlers.

Makes sense since has the I hate the USA gimmick

I really want Swagger to come back as an All American face and feud with Cesaro over the US title for a long period of time.

Yeah I just looked through the roster, I've gotta stick by my Sheamus statement. Look at the matches he's getting out of Big Show on PPV. And week after week you guys are all talking about the other person in a match they had on Raw against Sheamus. It's gotta say something about the fella

Sheamus is probably my favourite at the moment. CM Punk and Bryan are obvious choices. Randy Orton can still go when he needs to. Rey Mysterio is consistently underrated in these discussions.

I'm surprised but not appalled by the amount of love Del Rio's getting, pretty dull outside the ring but great inside of it.

Bryan.

He has been the best all-round guy on the WWE roster for quite some time now.

Your next main eventer in the WWE is Antonio Cesaro.

As in relegated to WWE Main Event on ION television?

No. God no.

time to learn vanilla midget in 5 languages

Cesaro had his best match to date last night, me thinks.

Would say Ziggler is better but mostly because of his selling. Cesaro is better when it comes to pulling off impressive moves like his uppercut or showing off his strength better than Ryback with the Neutralizer.

Daniel Bryan

Cesaro has won me over, I didn't care for him at all when he debuted, but two weeks in a row he has been my mark out moment of Raw.

Haven't really watched many of his matches, tend to zone out or do something else because he's a pretty boring character. But that gif someone posted in 100,000 replies of his catching til-a-whirl backbreaker on Kofi was pretty great. It looked completely flawless.

Credit to Kofi as well of course who's another I'm not really a fan of.

Punk > Ziggler > Orton > Kidd > Bryan > Cesaro

"Sensational 6" IMO.....

wrong... Ziggler. Period.

I like that there are so many people that are in this discussion. Solid in-ring talent in WWE right now.

Why have Blandy Boreton so high up there?

Blandy can put on a really good match.

Blandy is the best in-ring storyteller on the main roster.

I love how much faster Randy's in ring work has become. He was sooooo boring and slow when he was feuding with Cena and HHH in 2009

I like to think Christian brought it out of him in their feud last year. :D

Orton's not the most technical or spectacular guy in the ring, but as no 1 wwf fan said he's the best storyteller. He's reliable and works well with everyone. His matches with Mark Henry were absolutely brilliant.

Sheamus hasn't got enough love in this thread, he's really versatile.

WWE matches are formulaic, period.

Guys hit their signature moves in the same order every match, more or less. See every Cena or Rey match this decade. Hasn't stopped those guys having some blinding matches, ie Jericho/Rey, Cena/Umaga, Orton/Christian.

He has a signature move.

What awful storytelling.

Why because the guy doesn't move for like 10 seconds?

You mean like every top rope move ever?

It's better since he began throwing his opponent out onto the apron himself, rather than just have them conveniantly find themselves in that position, which is something I still don't really like about the 619.

lol. Both moves require you to believe that they're immobilized. There are about a million "unrealistic" wrestling moves that require you to just ignore the fact that it's silly. The Undertaker walks on the fucking rope with a fully conscious guy's arm in his hand and never just gets nudged enough to force him to lose his balance...

He must be one of the worst in-ring psychologists of all time.

Okay...

You used it to knock the guy's in-ring storytelling.

Are you gonna knock everyone else's in-ring storytelling because of unrealistic moves?

Like The Undertaker's tightrope walk.

You're off on a tangent now, Jabba.

I'm just talking about storytelling based on a signature move. You can't knock Orton's psychology because of one move you find unrealistic without knocking a shitload of guys who you'd probably agree are great.

I was just bringing it up because it was a point I made that got ignored. Taker is a guy who has an unrealistic signature move and you're asked to remember it's not real. It's not meant to be judged like a real fight.

Go up and read how it started. lol

I'll quote for you if you need...

Loved Cesaro's match with Sheamus the other week. My two favourite guys to watch at the moment. 3 hour Raws started a bit dull but they've really been making the most of the time lately.

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I gave you several moves that are either poorly executed, or make no logical sense, which make up roughly 75% of Randy's moveset. It's not just one move.

If "telling a story" is accomplished by cracking open the skulls of the audience and spooning out their suspension of disbelief, then I guess I'm just plain wrong.

Jabba was using a move that he found particuarly unrealistic as a knock on Orton's storytelling ability. Therefore I'm making the point that you'd have to knock a lot of guys based on that.

Better?

lol. Best argument I've heard all day.

So you don't think Taker is a good storyteller.

The British Bulldog did a stalling suplex. Another move that requires the guy he's suplexing to keep perfect balance as just shifting his weight slightly would fuck it up. So he's a shitty storyteller.

Mysterio, we've discussed. Shitty storyteller.

Would you agree to all these?

If you're not clinging to one move to knock a guy's body of work then I'M NOT DIRECTING IT TO YOU! I'm arguing Jabba's point. lol

If you ARE doing that, then that's a silly knock on a pro wrestler.

I'm simply saying that one move is no different than moves that guys whose ability I'm sure you respect perform. Like I said, knocking a pro wrestler's ability for it is silly.

You find the RKO cringe-worthy??

Yeah I think HBK was better at stomping the mat before SCM when he was younger too. Embarrassing. Grown man stomping the mat. That hack.

The reason he's a fucking awesome storyteller is because he does shit for a reason. His Mark Henry matches were a good example. They weren't the typical WWE paint-by-numbers matches everyone was doing. Especially the Hell in a Cell match. It made Henry look like a million bucks. Orton played the "mega-face" who just gave everything he had but couldn't quite overcome the monster in the end and the entire match built up to that finish. He seems to understand the fact that a wresting match isn't just a bunch of meaningless shit thrown together for 15 minutes before a minute long finishing sequence.

There's like... a paragraph there. You should read it.