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Graveler 12-11-2012 11:35 PM

What's your wrestling unpopular opinion?
 
I personally feel that CM Punk's current heel run is pretty lousy. He cuts the same promo every week & putting him with Heyman was just done to appeal the IWC smarks. I've pretty much lost interest in him outside of his matches

Pintint 12-11-2012 11:40 PM

I like big slow hoss type of wrestlers and prefer a "big man" wrestler to a technical wizard most of the time.

weather vane 12-11-2012 11:55 PM

Sheamus bores the hell out of me.

Schlomey 12-12-2012 12:12 AM

Did not care to see Cena vs rock after an entire year of build.

Also, haven't cared about Lesnar at all either.

Ruien 12-12-2012 12:17 AM

Second the CM Punk motion.

Ruien 12-12-2012 12:17 AM

I want Cena as the champ too.

Nowhere Man 12-12-2012 12:19 AM

I have never liked the Rock. Or Randy Orton. Especially not Orton.

El Fangel 12-12-2012 12:22 AM

I am one of the guys who says a lot of the new product is unwatchable since its not the old stuff.

So...most everything?

Shisen Kopf 12-12-2012 12:27 AM

Hulk still rules!

Wishbone 12-12-2012 01:00 AM

I don't find Maryse all that appealing.

Wishbone 12-12-2012 01:00 AM

I also find face CM Punk to be far more entertaining than heel CM Punk.

slik 12-12-2012 01:08 AM

I do not care for Cena, Del Rio or Sheamus.

I think Survivor Series is a less important ppv than MITB.

I generally can't stand WWE from the time period after SummerSlam until the Royal Rumble/WM build begins.

Skippord 12-12-2012 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 4056672)
Sheamus bores the hell out of me.

cosign

DrCrawford 12-12-2012 01:20 AM

i dont like orton
eve is ugly
ryback sucks
cult of personality is a shitty theme song

The Condor 12-12-2012 01:30 AM

-Randy Orton is the most boring wrestler since Steve Blackman, but Blackman managed to be 1,000 times more entertaining and interesting than Orton.

-I change the channel anytime Brock, Triple H, AJ, Orton, Sheamus or Big Show come one the screen.

-Some form of 3MB ought to get the Tag Team Titles soon.

311 12-12-2012 01:38 AM

Punk is overrated.

RoH sucks so much ass I can't even begin. Borderline unwatchable.

Chris Jericho has to rank up there as one of the most overrated talents ever. This site reeks of Jericho-blowjob breath.

I would rather watch Ric Flair v. Anyone before I'd choose to watch almost any match I've seen over the last few years (minus the Taker/HBK matches).

I have never cared for Rob Van Dam...always thought he was a selfish spot-monkey.

Cena's music is good for a super baby-face.

The girl in the gif at the top of the page has really nice tits. That's not an unpopular opinion, just saying.

Rhaps 12-12-2012 02:34 AM

I agree with everyone who dislikes Orton/Finds him incredibly boring.

I've never understood his appeal.

My most unpopular opinion:

'Dead Man' Undertaker is a boring gimmick who cuts terrible promos:

"You did something and now the souls of the undead are going to claim your soul and you will rest in peace." yawn.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 02:47 AM

I want to hug half the people in this thread. Especially Graveler.

Punk is terrible. He's got Bret Hart syndrome: boring as hell and only yhe champ because the rest of the company is down right now.


Heath Slater needs more mic time

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 03:03 AM

I think Punk was enjoyable as a face as he seemed to come off as a "real guy". Now he's more of a generic heel but the fact that he's been champ so long makes him very useful in the build to WrestleMania and him losing the title is gonna be a huge deal.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 03:04 AM

And despite the fact that Gertner is right most of the time, Punk is about a million times better on the mic than Bret Hart was.

And Heath Slater is only entertaining in the fact that he's so cringe-worthy that it might be fun to watch him just be awful.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 03:06 AM

Also, the best "technically sound" match on Raw doesn't mean jack shit to me because it's nothing more than an exhibition and the outcome is meaningless. Raw is like an entire NFL season full of pre-season games. Without an outcome that has meaning (even if the meaning is as small as "the winner climbs the card a little while the loser falls) I really could care less about most matches.

Main Event is the best show WWE produces because of this.

BigCrippyZ 12-12-2012 03:08 AM

I find Alberto Del Rio, Sheamus and Randy Orton all incredibly boring.

Current top guys like CM Punk and John Cena are not nearly as entertaining, interesting or talented as guys like Stone Cold, Rock, HHH or HBK. Not even close.

I do miss the hardcore, high flying and tag team talents and antics of teams like the Hardys, the Dudleys, the Acolytes, Edge and Christian, etc.

AJ is not hot. Sure, she's got a pretty face, but she's not hot. Not unless you find 11 year girls hot, or with her body, 11 year old boys for that matter. And no, I don't find 11 year old's hot, thus AJ is not hot.

Kharma is not the best women's wrestler in the world. She's the best women's Mark Henry impersonator. Of course her matches look good, she's built like Mark Henry's twin sister. Mark Henry throwing those other stick figure bitches around would also look insanely vicious and impressive.

KIRA 12-12-2012 03:50 AM

Ryback is a waste of time and money

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 03:51 AM

Ryback is the best thing that's happened to WWE since Cena, dammit.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 03:53 AM

For as opinionated as I am about stuff in wrestling these days, I'm struggling to find stuff that I feel that goes against "popular opinion".

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4056873)
Ryback is a waste of time and money

You just made an enemy.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4056848)
And despite the fact that Gertner is right most of the time, Punk is about a million times better on the mic than Bret Hart was.

And Heath Slater is only entertaining in the fact that he's so cringe-worthy that it might be fun to watch him just be awful.

Slater should replace Lawler on Commentary

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4056852)
I find Alberto Del Rio, Sheamus and Randy Orton all incredibly boring.

Current top guys like CM Punk and John Cena are not nearly as entertaining, interesting or talented as guys like Stone Cold, Rock, HHH or HBK. Not even close.

I do miss the hardcore, high flying and tag team talents and antics of teams like the Hardys, the Dudleys, the Acolytes, Edge and Christian, etc.

AJ is not hot. Sure, she's got a pretty face, but she's not hot. Not unless you find 11 year girls hot, or with her body, 11 year old boys for that matter. And no, I don't find 11 year old's hot, thus AJ is not hot.

Kharma is not the best women's wrestler in the world. She's the best women's Mark Henry impersonator. Of course her matches look good, she's built like Mark Henry's twin sister. Mark Henry throwing those other stick figure bitches around would also look insanely vicious and impressive.


I agree 100 percent about AJ. She's flat as a piece of plywood and has no ass.

BigCrippyZ 12-12-2012 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4056883)
I agree 100 percent about AJ. She's flat as a piece of plywood and has no ass.

I was seriously beginning to wonder if I was the only one.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 04:11 AM

She's got a semi cute face. That's about it. She suffers from Olivia Munn syndrome: semi attractive but over-rated by the internet because they think she's attainable

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 04:18 AM

I think Cool King dislikes AJ as well.

I think she's got a "cool chick" vibe to her without it coming off as that fake "Hey, look at me, I'm like one of the guys! LOVE ME!" thing. Plus she's cute as fuck.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 04:21 AM

Oh, I find Cody Rhodes to be dull as fuck and anyone who mentions him as a guy who needs to be in the world title picture makes me sad for wrestling.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 04:22 AM

Though the mustache adds some "heel sophistication" to him that I enjoy. But still. Him along with most of the guys that the internet sees as "future world champions" just makes me feel like standards have reached an all time low.

Shisen Kopf 12-12-2012 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 4056767)
I don't find Maryse all that appealing.

Fag! This is b/c we didn't ban Beth82. Look what happens when you allow it to stick around.

BigCrippyZ 12-12-2012 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4056899)
Him along with most of the guys that the internet sees as "future world champions" just makes me feel like standards have reached an all time low.

Agree completely. :yes:

Cool King 12-12-2012 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 311 (Post 4056798)
The girl in the gif at the top of the page has really nice tits. That's not an unpopular opinion, just saying.

Alison Brie.

Cool King 12-12-2012 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4056885)
I was seriously beginning to wonder if I was the only one.

I've been saying all that since day one.

Cool King 12-12-2012 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4056893)
I think Cool King dislikes AJ as well.

You are correct. :y:

Cool King 12-12-2012 06:07 AM

Here's a few from me.

I don't find AJ attractive at all.
I like Cena and I think he's at his best when he's not in the title hunt.
I think Bret Hart is a bit on the overratted side.
A part of me doesn't want to see another Attitude Era.
I think Jack Swagger should get another World Heavyweight Championship run.
Ryback is getting a bit stale to me.
Del Rio is slowly beginning to bore me.
As much as I love Wade Barrett, a part of me doesn't want to see him as WWE/World Heavyweight Champion for unknown reasons.

Skippord 12-12-2012 06:07 AM

I think that the only difference between Ryback and Ezekiel Jackson is a push

(also one is black)

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4056950)
I think that the only difference between Ryback and Ezekiel Jackson is a push

(also one is black)

Here's a popular statement: I'm gonna punch you in the mouth

James Steele 12-12-2012 07:10 AM

I find WWE to be very enjoyable, and I have found it that way for at least a few years now.

Corporate CockSnogger 12-12-2012 07:24 AM

I love Jeff Jarrett and wish there was some way he could come back to WWE, because I don't feel like watching TNA.

I'm sure Noid could come up with some amazing scenario where WWE bought TNA, and TNA "invaded", but WWE looked at it as a joke because they destroyed WCW and TNA is a tiny tiny percent of what WCW was. But then we got some sort of Jeff Jarrett and Triple H promo anyway so it made the whole thing worthwhile.

The Condor 12-12-2012 10:18 AM

Scott Steiner + Ric Flair should come back in some capacity, be it as a manager or announcer. But that might actually be a popular opinion.

whiteyford 12-12-2012 10:29 AM

I think the brand split should never have been ended and should be rigidly enforced.

DaveBrawl 12-12-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 4056672)
Sheamus bores the hell out of me.

Same here, also Orton, although these don't seem to be that unpopular judging by this thread.

I love Sin Cara, but can't stand Mysterio. Also I hope the rumor of Batista returning that seems to pop up every so often never comes true.

The Jayman 12-12-2012 10:41 AM

I do not like heel CM Punk. His promos have become stale. He needs to get rid of Paul Heyman.

Shisen Kopf 12-12-2012 10:56 AM

Bret Hart was one of the greatest rasslers of all time. You all aren't as educated as me on the art of rassle and 5 moves of doom.

311 12-12-2012 10:58 AM

Another one - I find it hilarious every time someone criticizes Punk and the fan boys jump to his defense, unable to take it. It's the definition of cult of personality. Yay irony.

Graveler 12-12-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4056882)
Slater should replace Lawler on Commentary

I would serious welcome that.

Shadrick 12-12-2012 11:11 AM

I'm the biggest Punk mark, but I'm gonna need heel Punk to do more interesting things. I kinda put that on creative though.

I think with the right feud and the necessary push, as well as a few tweaks, Kofi Kingston could be the WWE Champion. Preferably as a heel ala The Rock in 1999.

I've never been a big fan of Hulk Hogan or Ultimate Warrior. Was always a Piper/Macho Man guy.

Shadrick 12-12-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4056960)
Here's a popular statement: I'm gonna punch you in the mouth

:rofl::rofl: When you're not trolling or being unnecessarily racist, Algerto, you're my favorite.

Graveler 12-12-2012 11:30 AM

Here are a few others from me:


I never liked Chris Benoit. I thought he was a guy who got over making an angry face. There were other wrestlers who were just as good & actually had charisma.

Cody Rhodes should never be WHC/WWE Champion

I think the Attitude Era is overrated & people wear rose tinted glasses when they talk about it

I like the Big Show. I'd rather have him as WHC than Sheamus

Money in the Bank was a terrible idea

The Condor 12-12-2012 11:44 AM

Attitude era was entertaining and unpredictable, mostly, but yes people wear blinders to the fact that the actual in ring product, especially below the upper card, was questionable.

Rhaps 12-12-2012 11:49 AM

The Attitude Era *IS* overrated.

That's not an opinion, that's provable fact.

whiteyford 12-12-2012 11:51 AM

I look forward to your evidence.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graveler (Post 4057099)
Here are a few others from me:


I never liked Chris Benoit. I thought he was a guy who got over making an angry face. There were other wrestlers who were just as good & actually had charisma.

Cody Rhodes should never be WHC/WWE Champion

I think the Attitude Era is overrated & people wear rose tinted glasses when they talk about it

I like the Big Show. I'd rather have him as WHC than Sheamus

Money in the Bank was a terrible idea

You're my new favoutie poster. Love the Big Show. Cody Rhodes isn't world champ material. Attitude Era is what it is. It just pains me when people think the WWE should be back to that format cause it'd never work. Benoit never did it for me and I got bored with his matches.

Schlomey 12-12-2012 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4056960)
Here's a popular statement: I'm gonna punch you in the mouth

:nono:

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 12:02 PM

Here's one I've been saying for a while: Dolph Ziggler isn't World Champ material.

Schlomey 12-12-2012 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4057128)
Here's one I've been saying for a while: Dolph Ziggler isn't World Champ material.

I'll agree. I do think he is amazing but in his current character I just can't see it. He needs a "thing" to really get him there and the MITB briefcase just isn't it. And it DEFINITELY isn't the Vickie/AJ/Cena shit.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4056850)
Also, the best "technically sound" match on Raw doesn't mean jack shit to me because it's nothing more than an exhibition and the outcome is meaningless. Raw is like an entire NFL season full of pre-season games. Without an outcome that has meaning (even if the meaning is as small as "the winner climbs the card a little while the loser falls) I really could care less about most matches.

Main Event is the best show WWE produces because of this.

Technically sound means nothing to me in general. Give me a match with great characters and decent workrate over vanilla midgets wrestling a technical masterpiece anyday.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlomey (Post 4057129)
I'll agree. I do think he is amazing but in his current character I just can't see it. He needs a "thing" to really get him there and the MITB briefcase just isn't it. And it DEFINITELY isn't the Vickie/AJ/Cena shit.

The briefcase is the only thing keeping him interesting for me and when Cena beats him my care level for Ziggler will drop to zero. People are far too quick to label a wrestler "world champ material? Your world champ should be able to draw viewers and carry the show. Ziggler does neither. Vickie has been his saving grace for a couple years.

Schlomey 12-12-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4057132)
The briefcase is the only thing keeping him interesting for me and when Cena beats him my care level for Ziggler will drop to zero. People are far too quick to label a wrestler "world champ material? Your world champ should be able to draw viewers and carry the show. Ziggler does neither. Vickie has been his saving grace for a couple years.

He isn't the first wrestler to hold the MITB briefcase and for me to be all like "wtf ever dude". Swagger rings a bell. While his title reign was hated by most I felt like he was pretty legitimate. Perhaps Ziggler will accomplish that but perhaps he won't. I'd rather him lose the briefcase and try to "get over" a different way than keep it, win the title, only to become a meaningless WHC.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 12:15 PM

I like Swagger and think he was just horribly booked. He got into a feud with Big Show and was made to look like a bitch from the get go. He had some great in ring promos, but aside from that I'm not sure creative had any idea what to do with him

The Condor 12-12-2012 01:01 PM

Hasselhoff should be hired as Jackie Swagga's personal ring announcer.

Nicky Fives 12-12-2012 01:06 PM

I love the work of Heath Slater
Every time Justin Gabriel opens his mouth, I have the urge to turn off my television
I want to see Mick Foley work one more "crazy" match
The Primetime Players are terrible
Kane is underrated and underappreciated by the IWC

Pintint 12-12-2012 01:06 PM

Swagger could've been a much better champ than he was if they got him into some better feuds.

The Condor 12-12-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4057171)
Kane is underrated and underappreciated by the IWC

This is so damn true

Corporate CockSnogger 12-12-2012 01:19 PM

Never really liked Chris Benoit, he was unbelievably boring to me.

Not really the biggest fan of Ric Flair either, granted I've probably never seen a match of his when he was in his "peak".

slik 12-12-2012 01:25 PM

I think Jerry Lawler is over-rated as a wrestler.

whiteyford 12-12-2012 01:46 PM

Ric Flair had one match, over and over again...

whiteyford 12-12-2012 01:47 PM

Most controversial post in this thread .

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-12-2012 01:55 PM

I didn't find Z-True Long Island story funny at first.

Supreme Olajuwon 12-12-2012 01:56 PM

I like TNA.

There I said it.

The Whole F'n Show 12-12-2012 02:00 PM

I think they should go back to 4 ppv's per year, raw should go back to 2 hours, and get rid of all this social media bullshit.

Pintint 12-12-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 4057192)
Never really liked Chris Benoit, he was unbelievably boring to me.

Not really the biggest fan of Ric Flair either, granted I've probably never seen a match of his when he was in his "peak".

I second these sentiments. Never liked Benoit because he was boring as hell. I love Flair's charima but have never really liked his matches, but I only saw him in the dying days of WcW and WWE.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 02:06 PM

I never liked Benoit for kinda the same reasons I stated above for not caring about matches on Raw. He was a guy who had no charisma, no character and was not interesting nor was he likeable. Therefore I found it hard to care about his matches regardless of his "technical prowess".

XCaliber 12-12-2012 02:23 PM

CM Punk is a better wrestler overall than SCSA ever was even in his prime.

slik 12-12-2012 02:24 PM

I hate Rey Mysterio.

Pintint 12-12-2012 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4057280)
I hate Rey Mysterio.

I guess you wouldn't want this life-sized Rey Mysterio action figure,

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1336949108

KyleEmmott 12-12-2012 05:03 PM

I enjoy 3 hours of Raw

Ultra Mantis 12-12-2012 05:32 PM

The Miz is the opposite of awesome.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 05:50 PM

It seems like The Miz has started trying too hard since the face turn. The core of his character hasn't really changed and it doesn't need to. But for some reason he's just trying too hard and it's coming off as fake now. He's lost the "natural" vibe.

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 05:52 PM

While he isn't as good on the mic obviously, Randy Orton is someone who didn't start trying too hard and fuck up his character just because he became a face and I like that.

James Steele 12-12-2012 06:18 PM

I can't stand Christian.

James Steele 12-12-2012 06:19 PM

The Miz is a horrible face. That shit on Monday was wretched. "Was it something I said?" SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DOUCHE.

Graveler 12-12-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4057560)
The Miz is a horrible face. That shit on Monday was wretched. "Was it something I said?" SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DOUCHE.

Trust me, you're not alone on this one

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4057559)
I can't stand Christian.

He's probably the worst main event face in the WWE

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4057573)
He's probably the worst main event face in the WWE

Worse than Bryan????

loopydate 12-12-2012 07:01 PM

I would rather watch almost any other segment in wrestling history than anything involving Steve Austin.

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4057575)
Worse than Bryan????

Yes waaaay worse than Bryan.

Shisen Kopf 12-12-2012 07:19 PM

My Lil pony is better than WWE programming

Evil Vito 12-12-2012 07:24 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Alberto Del Rio has bored the hell out of me for quite some time.

I won't deny that he can go in the ring...but his character is just fucking boring at this point and he's had no real direction. I've been hard pressed to care about anything he's been doing.</font>

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4057593)
Yes waaaay worse than Bryan.

Has the beard really swayed you that much?

Shisen Kopf 12-12-2012 07:57 PM

Bobby Jaggers would beat the shit out of the Undertaker

#1-norm-fan 12-12-2012 08:03 PM

Then he'd take all of his supernatural powers and become "The Jaggertaker".

Bad News Gertner 12-12-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4057617)
Has the beard really swayed you that much?

Bryan should be an upper mid carder and he fills the role perfectly. Just not a main eventer.

Pintint 12-12-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4057663)
Bryan should be an upper mid carder and he fills the role perfectly. Just not a main eventer.

And who should be a main eventer?

http://acrimsonmask.files.wordpress....1331835570.jpg

?

Ruien 12-12-2012 09:32 PM

Del Rio needs to go back to Mexico.

Theo Dious 12-12-2012 09:38 PM

The Nexus invasion was a boring as fuck angle.
ECW really was Extremely Crappy Wrestling.
The Hardcore title needs to come back complete with the 24/7 rule.
Maryse is an unattractive PVC doll.
Lance Storm is boring.
Roddy Piper was not the greatest heel of all time. Not even top five. Maybe not even top ten.
Matt Hardy is more entertaining than Jeff Hardy.
Triple H earned everything he has.
WCW was never better than WWE.
Everything Vince McMahon does is awesome.
Lita kicks ass.
Sports entertainment is better than pure wrestling which is boring as fuck.


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