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Next Big Thing 12-26-2012 09:28 PM

Shows That Are/Went Past Their Prime
 
I signed up for a Netflix free trial and went on a South Park binge since I don't really watch t.v. at regular intervals like normal people. The one thing I took from it was that they probably should have stopped two seasons ago. The clever satire is gone and it seems like they're trying to hard to be edgy.

I've heard people make similar comments about the Simpsons, Family Guy and American Dad.

So I wonder, what shows do you guys think should probably be put down or went on for too long?

MoFo 12-26-2012 09:45 PM

As much as I loved Entourage it started to become "samey" after like 3 seasons.

Ari was the best part of the show and even his quips got progressively lamer.

Lock Jaw 12-26-2012 10:09 PM

Probably should have just ended The Office with Michael Scott leaving

The Condor 12-26-2012 10:33 PM

Family Guy for almost a half decade. Haven't watched it in a while but when I do it just isn't that funny. Seasons before its cancellation were much different, and seemingly more entertaining for me.

Razzamajazz 12-27-2012 12:32 AM

the simpsons was the first that came to mind

Pintint 12-27-2012 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4069753)
Family Guy for almost a half decade. Haven't watched it in a while but when I do it just isn't that funny. Seasons before its cancellation were much different, and seemingly more entertaining for me.

Agree 100%, it just did not feel the same after it returned from hiatus.

Triple Naitch 12-27-2012 01:23 AM

How I Met Yr. Mother

Frank Drebin 12-27-2012 01:24 AM

Started talking about south park in another thread. They've been doing it for 50 years and they have other things they want to do, but they have to keep their "day job". NBT is right in that is seems they are just trying to be edgy and goofy now. That short doc they did about making the centipad episode sums it up.

Used to like Entourage but then it got a big d bag following and it followed the same formula. Things get a little worse then they get a lot better.

Haven't seen the latest season but an Office without Michael Scott sounds like shit.

Simpsons should be example #1. I've never seen the movie and I never will. It's all just homer getting hit in the head with things, homer falling through things, jamming a celebrity guest into the episode as themselves. Too many writers, not enough of the original players being involved. Everyone just shows up to collect a check because people see Simpsons and think its funny.

Frank Drebin 12-27-2012 01:29 AM

You know what was the original shark jumper of our time? The Real World. Memba when it really was an experiment to see what happens when you take 7 people from different backgrounds and make them live in a house together?

Somehow it turned into "what happens when we take 7 attractive early to mid 20 somethings, and stick them in a pallacial mansion filled to the brim with booze and a hot tub?"

Frank Drebin 12-27-2012 01:33 AM

Cast of the real world today:

1) attractive female blond
2) attractive female brunette
3) attractive male blond
4) attractive male with dark hair.
(One of them is a good time party animal while the other get violent when drunk)
5) black guy
6) gay guy or girl
7) grab bag!!
Another gay guy? Punk rocker? Asian? Gay black guy?

V 12-27-2012 02:54 AM

Simpsons is the example. Think back to the 90s and how awesome it was, and look at it now, it's destroying its own reputation. It would have the biggest cult following and respect from virtually everybody who knows of it, if it ended at a proper time. That said, I still watch it and love it ><

Scrubs season 9 shouldn't have happened, it would have ended perfectly otherwise.

Don't agree with Family Guy, it's still funny/relevant

South Park should have ended around season 10-12, although it still has certain episodes that amaze, it used to be the opposite with only certain episodes not being amazing

Don't agree with How I met your Mother either, it still feels fresh.

Office should have ended with Micheal Scott leaving (they should have done all the 'endings' they are doing for the characters now, back then)

the last 2 - 3 seasons of Malcolm in the Middle were awful

Have to see the second half of Season 5 to make a judgement on Breaking Bad, but the first half of season 5 sucks so much compared to the rest of the series that I almost think they should have made Season 4 the conclusion.

Bad News Gertner 12-27-2012 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4069748)
Probably should have just ended The Office with Michael Scott leaving

I still watch it from time to time and think it's still funny. Not as good as it was, but definitely not terrible.

Bad News Gertner 12-27-2012 03:10 AM

That 70's show got very bad when Topher Grace left.

Boondock Saint 12-27-2012 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by V (Post 4069873)

Have to see the second half of Season 5 to make a judgement on Breaking Bad, but the first half of season 5 sucks so much compared to the rest of the series that I almost think they should have made Season 4 the conclusion.

Seriously? Show is fantastic still. But How I Met Your Mother still feels fresh? The hell?

I agree with you on Family Guy. I enjoy it a lot still and think it's better since it was revived from cancellation. I've gone back and watched the older ones, hell they're the only episodes I own on DVD, and they're actually kind of brutal to watch.

Lock Jaw 12-27-2012 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4069878)
I still watch it from time to time and think it's still funny. Not as good as it was, but definitely not terrible.

I don't think it is terrible either... but it feels like it is missing something. Plus if they were just gonna end the show in two seasons anyways, might have just ended it back then.

V 12-27-2012 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Boondock Saint (Post 4069920)
Seriously? Show is fantastic still. But How I Met Your Mother still feels fresh? The hell?

The things is, I'm comparing Breaking Bad to itself. Season 4 was almost the best season of any TV show ever, and season 5 has been a joke in comparison. I just really think they could do better. Maybe they set the bar too high. I also probably would not be saying this had I not already known Season 5 was the last season. It should go past season 5 or end at season 4 is what I meant really.

How I met your mother is clearly working towards a set conclusion and I like that.

The Destroyer 12-27-2012 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by V (Post 4069873)
Simpsons is the example. Think back to the 90s and how awesome it was, and look at it now, it's destroying its own reputation. It would have the biggest cult following and respect from virtually everybody who knows of it, if it ended at a proper time. That said, I still watch it and love it ><

Yeah, really. Could have ended it over a decade ago and it would have gone out with a great reputation for quality.

Shisen Kopf 12-27-2012 04:52 AM

The News. Used to be good but after 9/11 it got worse. If I had to pin point the moment when "the news" jumped the shark: October 5, 2001

Corporate CockSnogger 12-27-2012 07:02 AM

How I Met Your Mother is still going? Those kids must be so bored of listening to their dad talk about random girls he banged before meeting their mother.

whiteyford 12-27-2012 07:11 AM

Season 8.

Still enjoy South Park though, Family Guy/American Dad has always been kinda meh though, gotta be in the mood for it and Damn Inator randomly replying to threads with shitty Family Guy vids doesn't help the cause.

V 12-27-2012 07:27 AM

the thing about HIMYM is that most of his stories (seem to) have something to do with how he met their mom. I mean it does go off on random tangents but I'd say at least 60-70% of what he talks about is relevant to the main story. But yes it's silly that he's telling his kids stories of girls he banged, no kid wants to know about that

Corporate CockSnogger 12-27-2012 07:38 AM

What if it turns out he's actually gay with Neil Patrick Harris and they used Alison Hannigan as a surrogate mother and all of it ends in one big swerve where Jason Segel saves the day?

Corporate CockSnogger 12-27-2012 07:39 AM

Although I guess the show would've ended after episode 1.

Corporate CockSnogger 12-27-2012 07:41 AM

Also not really sure what Jason Segel is saving the day from, but any time Jason Segel is made to look good is a tally in the plus column for any show/movie.

ClockShot 12-27-2012 08:25 AM

Even though it got cancelled, Terminator: TSCC was a good one. Got boring quick during the 2nd season, then it got interesting right at the end. But it was too little, too late. Ratings did the damage.

Raven Reaper 12-27-2012 08:45 AM

TSCC is the underrated show on this one. Sure, it had bad episodes in season 2 but still, Summer Glau outshines every human cast there is.. Even though Lena plays a good Sarah Connor herself.

Shows that went past their prime:

Jersey Shore
Honey Boo Boo
Survivor
Big Bang Theory
Glee

Need I add more?

El Fangel 12-27-2012 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Razzamajazz (Post 4069817)
the simpsons was the first that came to mind

While it isn't as bad as people say in my opinion, it isn't season 1-10 good either.

Think of it as today in WWE versus attitude era.

Innovator 12-27-2012 08:53 AM

Simpsons easily, once they turned Homer into Peter Griffin

Next Big Thing 12-27-2012 08:53 AM

Can't believe I forgot the Office. The episodes from the past two seasons have really been hit or miss in my opinion and I agree that they probably would have been better off ending it after Michael Scott left.

Bad News Gertner 12-27-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven Reaper (Post 4070067)
TSCC is the underrated show on this one. Sure, it had bad episodes in season 2 but still, Summer Glau outshines every human cast there is.. Even though Lena plays a good Sarah Connor herself.

Shows that went past their prime:

Jersey Shore
Honey Boo Boo
Survivor
Big Bang Theory
Glee

Need I add more?

Honey Boo Boo is fucking amazing. Jersey Shore sucked because they finally grew up in the final season

Ruien 12-27-2012 11:29 AM

Two and a Half Men.

The Condor 12-27-2012 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4070132)
Two and a Half Men.

It was very repetitive and losing steam after about 4 seasons, but Sheen was always money on the show. My co-worker told me to watch the new eps with Kutcher and they are just about vomit inducing in their wretchedness. Never should have continued without Sheen. Just awful.

El Fangel 12-28-2012 07:46 AM

Supernatural.

Season 6 and 7 are trash.

Chavo Classic 12-28-2012 08:34 AM

House.

Cool King 12-28-2012 10:45 AM

The Simpsons was the first thing that came to mind.

I've said it alot here on TPWW, so I'll just quote myself to save time.


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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3763237)
....some newer episodes are good, but not fantastic. I can watch some newer episodes once, maybe twice before getting sick of it and not finding it funny anymore, unlike older ones where I can watch them countless amounts of times and still find myself laughing at the jokes, but this isn't a rant, even though it reads like it, but just my thoughts.

What annoys me about the newer episodes is the fact that almost every episode has a "Special Guest" now. Rarely do I come across a newer episode without a "Celebrity" appearance. :-\ The majority of the time, it's someone who's only seen as a celebrity in Canada, America and maybe even Mexico, so I'm totally lost as to who it is. Also, there was a period that the majority of the newer episodes were dealing with "real life issues", such as Springfield legalising Gay Marriages or Bart becoming another statistic of Childhood Obesity and so on. It's all well and good that the writers are raising the issue, but I watch The Simpsons to have a laugh, not to re-watch the news, if you know what I mean. :-\

Also, to me, the jokes aren't as funny as they once were and sometimes it seems like they're trying too hard, and they have an entire city of characters at their disposal to create stories about, but instead, they only ever really work around The Simpsons Family, Mr. Burns, Moe, Apu, Principle Skinner, Ned and "Celebrity Character". I would love to see some episodes about Jasper, or just Lenny or Mayor Quimby, Dolph or even Herman. While on the subject of characters, the staff have seem to have dramatically changed the characters from what they were originally.

For example, Homer these days isn't just a slow, family loving man. In the newer episodes, he comes across as being a bit of dick towards his family and very selfish. Bart has went from being a "cool rebel" who was constantly a pain in the ass for everyone, to a innocent little kid who doesn't really cause trouble. In previous episodes, he's owned weapons, offered to take up smoking, drank alcohol and hijacked a tank and driven it around Springfield, but in later episodes he's a completely innocent child who doesn't even know about sex and thinks girls have "Cooties" and is very good friends with Ralph, and we all know what Ralph is like. Along with Mr. Burns changing from a heartless tyrant to what can be seen as being a good friend of The Simpsons family, Moe changing from constantly angry to constantly depressed and suicidal and others, it just irks me sometimes. :-\

And lastly, at this stage, The Simpsons have pretty much covered everything....

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Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3950713)
Personally, I think The Simpsons has ran it's course and it really should have ended years ago now. I've not really been a fan of the show for a while now and my liking of the show really started to go when I watched the episode "Barting Over" back when it was a new episode.

The scene where Homer and Tony Hawk fight in the air on their skateboards made me think "this is stupid" for the first time about The Simpsons....

....It seems like with the newer episodes the writers are just trying to cram as many "celebrities" into the shows history as they can, that is seems like instead of the original process of writing episodes and thinking of a celebrity who could appear in the episode, they do it the other way around and think of a celebrity to appear in the show and then write a story around them.

Classic Simpsons I'll watch, but the newer episodes just make me cringe and are awkward to watch and just generally don't make me laugh like the older episodes do.

I agree with V on Scrubs, Family Guy and a little bit on South Park.

Scrubs Season 9 shouldn't have happened. I tried watching it but it was just terrible. It wasn't Scrubs. It also took away everything from "My Finale". You watched "My Finale" and it was a great way to say goodbye to the series. But all that got thrown out the window when Season 9 was made.

Family Guy, I still find very enjoyable. I enjoy it much more than American Dad!, even though pretty much everyone I come across thinks American Dad! is the superior series.

South Park, I still really enjoy but there are times where an episode just isn't funny or it feels like it's dragging on a bit or more could have been done. A great example is the episode "W.T.F", where the kids start up a wrestling promotion after going to a Raw event.

The episode was good and I had a laugh at it, but at time, it felt like it dragged on a bit without anything funny going on. Such as the scenes where Vince McMahon is watching the kids' "wrestling" show. More wrestling related jokes could have been put into the episode but you just got your usual "Wrestling is fake", "It's acting", "Fans are Rednecks", "Amateur Wrestling looks gay" jokes, which were good, but it was nothing original. :-\

Also, I thought that South Park would have taken a shot at Professional Wrestling a long time ago, instead, they decided to do it in 2009.

Kane Knight 12-28-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chavo Classic (Post 4070694)
House.

House definitely went downhill a long time ago.

Corporate CockSnogger 12-28-2012 11:01 AM

Prison Break had a great first season and the rest was quite underwhelming (season 2 wasn't terrible though, just not up to the standards of season 1. 3 and 4 were awful.). Might've worked better as one or two shorter seasons with it ending when they actually got out of prison.

Triple Naitch 12-28-2012 11:47 AM

Prison Break was a phenomenal first season but then lost mad steam.

As much as I love 24, the last 2 seasons were kinda shite. Except for Tony Almeda. And after Edgar died I couldn't watch it the same way. :'(

Next Big Thing 12-28-2012 06:53 PM

I can't help but wonder if Community might be on this list after the upcoming season. They lose Harmon, three regular writers and Chevy Chase. I don't expect to see the same quality show.

Lock Jaw 12-28-2012 06:58 PM

In my opinion it already wasn't the same quality as season 1 and 2.

Bo 12-29-2012 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4070073)
Simpsons easily, once they turned Homer into Peter Griffin

Yep . Simpson should have ended 10 years ago.

Kane Knight 12-30-2012 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven Reaper (Post 4070067)
TSCC is the underrated show on this one. Sure, it had bad episodes in season 2 but still, Summer Glau outshines every human cast there is.. Even though Lena plays a good Sarah Connor herself.

Shows that went past their prime:

Jersey Shore
Honey Boo Boo
Survivor
Big Bang Theory
Glee

Need I add more?

I'm not sure any of these had a prime, but Glee? Glee?

Actually, the others may be worse examples, but Glee's the only one I've ever watched any of. I'm having trouble picturing it having a prime.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-30-2012 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 4069836)
How I Met Yr. Mother

Liar! Last week's two-parter was awesome.

toxic rooster 12-30-2012 03:41 AM

I was under the impression Community was always meant to be a 4-season thing :-/. or maybe I just dreamed that, nobody else ever seems to know about it.

Is Curb Your Enthusiasm still going? That one was old for me after about 3 seasons.

Bobholly138 01-02-2013 09:54 PM

Sopranos

First 3 seasons were great. But after that it went downhill.

Heroes

Amazing first season,blah second season,horrible third season. Never bothered watching the final season.

Wardy 01-04-2013 09:34 PM

The Simpsons definitely jumped the shark over a decade ago. I can't bring myself to watch a post season 9-10 episode without cringing and having to turn it off.

HIMYM, Big Bang Theory, 2 & A Half Men... all of these have always been absolute garbage right from the start. I have no idea how a non-retarded, adult male can laugh at such badly written guff.

The Condor 01-04-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wardy (Post 4075924)
HIMYM, Big Bang Theory, 2 & A Half Men... all of these have always been absolute garbage right from the start. I have no idea how a non-retarded, adult male can laugh at such badly written guff.

Whammy!

Lock Jaw 01-04-2013 09:56 PM

The Simpsons is definitely past its prime but.... I dunno. I don't watch the new episodes very much, but just being in a world without Simpsons would be weird and frightening.

Bad News Gertner 01-06-2013 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobholly138 (Post 4074569)
Sopranos

First 3 seasons were great. But after that it went downhill.

Heroes

Amazing first season,blah second season,horrible third season. Never bothered watching the final season.

Nooooo way, the final season of the Soprano's was amazing

Frank Drebin 01-07-2013 01:29 AM

I'll throw Twin Peaks out there. Nothing like a show that has such a remarkable first season only to suck so many balls after.

XL 01-07-2013 06:06 AM

Inclined to say X-Files. Should have called it a day when Duchovny and Anderson did. Then again, Robert Patrick's performances were the saving grace of the last 2 seasons.

Damian Rey 01-07-2013 07:47 AM

Anyone mention Boy Meets World or Family Matters? Bmw should have ended after they graduated high school and Family Matters never should have been back with, if I recall correctly, a recasted Harriet.

Ruien 01-07-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobholly138 (Post 4074569)
Sopranos

First 3 seasons were great. But after that it went downhill.

Heroes

Amazing first season,blah second season,horrible third season. Never bothered watching the final season.

Well, the second season was when the writers were on strike. The third was trying, and succeeded, in correcting the problems the second string writers caused in season two. Season four was amazing.

Ruien 01-07-2013 12:25 PM

Talking about Heroes of course.

Tommy Gunn 01-08-2013 05:53 PM

The X Files Season 9 was terrible, Season 8 was quite strong and would have been a good place to end things.

Heroes is the biggest fuck up I've ever seen, season 1 was great and I still can't believe they ruined it so hard. Kill the cheerleader, save the show!

Buffy should have ended at season 5. 6 and 7 had some good episodes but by that point, Angel was the superior show.

I agree with Twin Peaks, I love it, but after the big reveal in the middle of season 2, it just meanders all over the place.

Corporate CockSnogger 01-08-2013 06:41 PM

Gotta disagree with Buffy because Season 6 is one of my favourites.

Corporate CockSnogger 01-08-2013 06:41 PM

Plus there should always be as much Sarah Michelle Gellar as possible.

Razzamajazz 01-10-2013 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Fangel (Post 4070689)
Supernatural.

Season 6 and 7 are trash.

i had to stop watching it halfway through season 3

DAMN iNATOR 01-12-2013 02:39 PM

The idiots who said The Big Bang Theory should be taken out to pasture and shot.

Lock Jaw 01-13-2013 02:47 AM

It was better before they all got girlfriends. Better when they were creepy weirdos who couldn't get chicks.


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