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Punk Taker HAS to happen
There is LITERALLY nobody in the history of wrestling that could say "you want respect, boy?" and have it mean anything like the Undertaker
COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN |
While I don't think I'd die if it doesn't happen, that phrase coming out of Takers mouth to Punk would be epic.
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Shadrick makes a great point you guys.
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Its about time.
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And I had to copy you to do it.
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You're like Jericho. And I'm Punk.
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Or you're Ahmed Johnson and I'm Ezekiel Jackson.
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Or you're Billy Gunn and I'm Dolph Ziggler.
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Id rather have Lesner/Taker but both would be good.
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See how I'm copying your posting style? BEST IN THE WOOOOOOORLD.
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Spilchuk, you shithead.
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I get it!
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SO YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE?
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Sorta!
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okay! sorta is good!
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Woo!
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Taker / Punk (still as champ) > Cena / Rock "Once.....errrr Twice in a lifetime"
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Punk HAS to drop the title.
Punk/ Taker would be interesting. Id definitely be interested in seeing this develop. |
Taker would really have no motivation to defend the streak, unless he was going after the WWE Championship. The match would be sick.
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Punk doesn't need the title.
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Would work better if he did though.
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Only real prob I would have is taker wins, right? The streak is never getting broken......right?
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Not that I have a problem with taker winning, just that its much more fun when you don't go into a match thinking someone is clearly going over.
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I think the biggest appeal would be in "The Streak" vs "The Longest Reign in the Modern Era".
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Rock vs Cena 2 would lose a lot of its appeal then.
Taker is any match has a ton of appeal so Punk without the title would be cool. Plus, The Rock having to fight in the Chamber as champ would draw aalot of buys prior to Wrestlemania.. much much much more than if Punk were champ. Punk isn't a great draw. Facts are facts. |
What do you think of CM Punk vs Undertaker at Wrestlemania?
Personally, I think it's good. |
I'll sum it up this way: Taker vs Punk doesn't need the Title. Cena vs Rock does.
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But honestly, the only way I'd want to see Taker Vs Punk is if Punk goes over. I know that sounds insane. |
Cena vs Rock needs the title, because it has to top last years match somehow.
As people have said Taker - Punk already has a title, the streak, and the streak means more than anything else. I'd be fucking going crazy during that match as well. That with Lesnar - HHH and Sheamus - Orton would mean it'd be the most stacked wm card in forever. |
Still have Ziggler. Assuming he has cashed in and either didn't win or lost the belt, id like to see him and Del Rio have a match. Two of the best in ring competitors in the world would put on a great match!
Ryback vs Big Show would be awesome. Kane/Bryan vs Rhodes Scholars vs PTP vs Usos would be good. Add in Sin Cara vs Rey Mysterio and heck, throw in Paige vs Kaitlyn Wrestlemania should be awesome |
I don't have high hopes going into Wrestlemania for anyone who isn't considered amongst wrestling's elite.
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They haven't wrestled each other in a while so it'd be a fresh match up, would pretty much write itself too with or without the belt.
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Punk vs Taker would be a good match. Plus it would be a fresh with or without the belt on the line.
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Punk should beat Taker to earn MASSIVE heel heat.
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I feel there would be more mystery as to the outcome if Punk still had the title and faced Taker. Otherwise it is just another notch in the WM Streak.
Cena / Rock SHOULDN'T need a title if both names are such huge draws. Cena hasn't needed the title all of 2012 to still be in the spotlight. Isn't the spectacle of the "dream match feel" the whole point of it? The fact (cuz it is) that Rock would be gone after Mania meaning Cena would win, and everyone would know it going into it, less a Russo-esque swerve took place. But if Cena wins, as he will, then everyone will just be bitching about Cena having the title again. Unless Punk drops the title before mania, not to Rock, and there would be a completely different title match altogether..... Love the "road to mania" time of year for wrestling, everyone seems to step it up and things get mixed up quite a bit. |
I honestly hope to God they don't do Rock/Cena II.
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I can't wait for another build up of "Let's dumb down the Rock's act so Cena can keep up"
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...or as I like to call it, "John Cena plays SHOOT while The Rock ignores it and just pitches twitter."
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The Rock did have some good promos in the build last year, but it just felt so weird because Cena was doing the whole "worked shoot" thing and The Rock never even acknowledged it.
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Last year around this time, I was telling EVERYONE that this was going on when the "Man, Rock doesn't have it anymore" and "Wow Cena really got the better of this exchange, he's ripping Rock up" posts were being made. How far fetched is it that behind the scenes, Rock was pretty much instructed "Hey...could you just slow it down....we want it to look even...."? |
I would much rather see Punk-Taker Streak vs. Streak than Cena-Rock II for the title. Or Cena-Rock II at all. Streak vs. Streak is the most important thing WWE could do from a kayfabe standpoint.
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I mean, it would be one of the most important matches of all time at one of the most important shows of all time. You wanna hold it back so another match can have one of the titles so it's not titles-less?
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Cena vs Taker pls.
Punk/Taker wasnt good the first time and is worse now. |
Fuck Cena vs Rock. Taker wins the Rumble, lesnar, member of team heyman comes back and screws the rock out of the title at rr. Dolphin finally cashes in on del Rio and wins, blow off their feud at mana for the whc.
Streak vs streak: punk vs taker for wwe title Cena vs Dolph for whc Brock vs Rock redux, battle of guys that aren't going to hang around |
They should do an angle where punk beats taker at wm, feels he has nothing more to prove and nothing more to accomplish..over 500 days as champion.. so he "retires" as champ the next night on raw. Give him a few months off, then have him show up randomly as if he never retired and is still the champ and have a champ vs champ match to settle it.
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I feel like my ideas are great and I should be working for wwe and giving them to Vince instead of posting them on here for vinces spies to eventually steal and use for free
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My timeline may be off on those, though, but I know they happened in Mania matches the past four years. Still think Punk is one of the only ones who can pull out a great match from Taker without real risk of hurting him. |
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I like the Brock vs.Rock it seems like it would be fun as hell to watch
I love Taker but yeah I honestly think 20 should have been his stopping point these days I keep hearing about his hips,shoulders etc. and wonder why he doesn't stop I really don't want to see a barely mobile Taker on my screen it's too heartbreaking and unnecessary. That said, Punk vs Taker could be awesome if properly booked. |
all these things that people say HAVE to happen....
no they don't. |
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I'd much rather see Cena-Brock II than Brock-HHH II Or Cena-Rock II. And finally have that singles match at Mania between HHH and Rock or have them both go after some new talent.
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If Punk/Taker happens, and Rock/Cena does too, who does Lesnar wrestle at WM? Lesnar/HHH 2?
For all this time people have been saying that Taker/Lesnar would be what we'd see. |
Cena-Lesnar at WrestleMania followed by Streak vs. Streak would be two of the biggest matches ever. Then follow it up at WM 30 if Taker wins with Cena-Taker. And Punk-Stone Cold. Then maybe at WM 31 we finally get Cena-Punk at Mania.
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Streak vs Streak? Undertaker against who?
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I'm gonna be really disappointed when it's Cena-Rock II for the title, Punk-Taker for just the Streak, and Lesnar-HHH II. Getting my hopes up that they'll surprise me at the Rumble and have Punk win his title match. And really getting my hopes up that they saw how incredible of an atmosphere Cena-Lesnar had at an event like Extreme Rules. It would be fucking epic in a WrestleMania type setting. Really getting my hopes up that they put that match out there. Then put The Rock with Ryback and make Ryback a fucking star. Maybe have HHH and Dolph Ziggler square off to see if Dolph really has what it takes to be main event material.
This card would be good. Streak vs. Streak WWE Championship Match: CM Punk (C) vs. Undertaker (This match would have to go around 35 minutes. If Undertaker is healthy enough for a match with Lesnar sometime this year and a match with Cena at WM 30 then he wins. If not Punk ends the streak and goes into a feud as the biggest badass in the WWE against the biggest badass in UFC Brock Lesnar after Lesnar helps him win against The Rock at the Royal Rumble and then F-5's him as well.) Lesnar wants revenge at the biggest stage of them all Last Man Standing Match:Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena (This would be about 30 minutes. Have Lesnar go over here if he's coming back. That sets the stage for either Lesnar vs. Undertaker or Lesnar vs. Punk.) Dolph proves he's a legend and cashes in WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match: Sheamus (C) vs. Dolph Ziggler (I'd have Ziggler cash in here like he said he would at WM in about 2 minutes to start a feud with Ziggler once Ziggler cashes in on him.) WWE World Heavyweight Championship Fatal 4-Way Elimination Match:Randy Orton (C) (Who wins at EC) vs. Albeto Del Rio vs. Big Show vs. Sheamus (This would go about 20 minutes. I'd have Big Show show his dominance and eliminate Alberto Del Rio around 12 minutes in. Sheamus and Orton battle Show and get him out of the ring, Orton tries to sneak up on Sheamus and hit an RKO but instead eats a brogue kick and is eliminated by Sheamus. Sheamus wins a hard fought battle by Brogue Kicking Big Show to bring their feud full circle jerk. As Sheamus celebrates Big Show hits him with a KO Punch and goes to get a chair but Orton comes back and fights him off. Sheamus tries to celebrate, but Orton hits him with an RKO. Which leads to Ziggler's music hitting.) Can Ryback Do What John Cena Could Not?: Ryback vs. The Rock (Ryback goes over here in about 12 minutes and becomes a star while The Rock goes back to Hollywood.) Is Dolph Ziggler Main Event Material?:Dolph Ziggler vs. HHH (This would be 25 minutes or so. This would be the technical wrestling match of the night with Ziggler winning a close contest by cheating.) WWE Diva's Title Match: Kaitlyn (C) vs. AJ (Crazy AJ wins in 5 minutes.) The Shield proved they could beat Team Hell No In TLC, now put the belts up for grabs WWE Tag Team Title 5 (Or 6)-Team TLC Match: Daniel Bryan & Kane (C) vs. Dean Ambrose & Seth Rollins vs. Cody Rhodes & Damien Sandow vs. Christian & (In a perfect world Chris Jericho but probably The Miz) vs. Either Heath Slater & Drew McIntyre or Darren Young & Titus O'Neil, Personally I'd have no problem with all of them. (Have The Shield go over here in an awesome 20 minute non-stop spotfest. Either keep feuding with Team Hell No or have them break up and The Shield goes after Christian and his teammate.) Mask vs. Mask Rey Mysterio vs. Sin Cara (I'd have Mysterio go over here in about 15 minutes of awesome lucha libre action and have them humiliate Sin Cara on his way out of the company, possibly have Rey Mysterio's new Mexican Drug Cartel gang rape him and leave him for dead in the middle of the ring after the match..) Intercontinental Title Triple Threat Match: Wade Barrett (C) vs. Kofi Kingston (Maybe vs. The Miz or R-Truth) In this ever going rivalry. (Wade Barrett retains and continues his reign in about 10 minutes.) WWE United States Title Steel Cage Match:Antonio Cesaro (C) vs. The All American American Jack Swagger (I'd have them have a match at EC where Cesaro wins via interference from a debuting Kassius Ohno. Booker T then sets up a Steel Cage rematch at WrestleMania to bar outside interference. Could go either way. Personally I like long reigns so I'd have Cesaro retain and compete with Barrett over who's title is more important in 10 minutes.) (My match times leave about 45 minutes for entrances, skits, the Hall Of Fame thing, and whatever else they want. Pre-Show Battle Royal:Alex Riley vs. Big E Langston vs. Brad Maddox vs. Brodus Clay vs. Camacho vs. Curt Hawkins vs. David Otunga vs. Derrick Bateman vs. Epico vs. Fandango vs. The Great Khali vs. Hunico vs. Jey Uso vs. Jimmy Uso vs. Jinder Mahal vs. JTG vs. Justin Gabriel vs. Mason Ryan vs. Michael McGillicutty vs. Percy Watson vs. Primo vs. Ricardo Rodriguez vs. Roman Reigns vs. Santino Marella vs. Ted DiBiase vs. Tensai vs. William Regal vs. Yoshi Tatsu vs. Zack Ryder (Possibly vs. Darren Young vs. Titus O'Neil vs. Heath Slater vs. Drew McIntyre vs. R-Truth) (I'd have Big E Langston go over here.) Then whip out his dick and do the helicopter in celebration. No homo. Sounds like the best show in wrestling history and I wish it would happen. Keep dreaming. |
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Punk Taker will be awesome without any god damn titles involved. Will you guys stop being faggots about this?
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What do you want? Taker as champion?
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That's retarded.
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So Rock can't be champion because he only wrestles twice a year.
Hey I know, let's give it to the guy who wrestles once a year! That's the ticket! |
Also you're telling me that CM Punk, the best promo in the business right now, can't make a Wrestlemania match against the Undertaker meaningful unless he has a belt?
C'mon son |
<font color=goldenrod>I don't think it's that anybody WANTS Taker as champion. It's just that Cena/Rock II for the WWE Title is going to be the most predictable WM main event of all time. They're not going to have Cena lose to the Rock 2 years in a row, especially if it'd lead to a non-active wrestler winning the belt. There's pretty much zero opportunity to suspend your disbelief with that match.
At least with Punk/Taker you might actually think Punk could end the streak since it's hard to fathom WWE giving the belt to a guy who literally only wrestles one match a year. Doesn't really matter though. It's gonna be Rock/Cena for the belt and Punk/Taker for the streak. I'll be going to WM live for the first time so as long as the crowd is shit hot, which I'm sure it will be, it'll be awesome.</font> |
<font color=goldenrod>If Taker theoretically did win the belt and retain the streak, I'm trying to figure out how he'd lose it.
I don't see him working a non-Mania match ever again. So I'd assume Brock or somebody would just brutalize him, the belt would get vacated, and they'd build to a Lesnar/Taker WM 30 match for a year. Dunno. Not gonna happen anyway.</font> |
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Thanks Supreme. Exactly what I've been saying.
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Really don't see the logic in 'Taker losing the streak, it's his selling point for Wrestlemania and there is nobody who is going to be there long term that would deserve the heat for ending the streak. And the whole idea that Undertaker is at the end of his career and should lose to pass the torch doesn't make it right, he could defend the streak against Hornswoggle and it'd get buys, he's got a year between matches to decide if he's capable/motivated enough to have another.
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Streak vs. Streak is the most important match that could happen in WWE though really. At the most important and biggest event of the year. I just don't see what they gain from Rock-CenaII for the belt that they can't gain from Streak vs. Streak. Obviously no one really agrees, and I know it's not gonna happen. I just think Streak vs. Streak is bigger than Cena vs. Rock WWE Title on the line. WrestleMania should be about big matches and making stars and building up stories for the new year. The card I made makes a whole lot of stars and let's a whole lot of talent shine. This could easily be the year to start making talent that can possibly be as big as Stone Cold or The Rock. If CM Punk is champion for 500 days and ends the streak? That won't make him huge? Or if Undertaker wins, and ends Punks reign of terror that won't be huge? Only to get trainwrecked at the next PPV by Lesnar, And Taker sits out until the next Mania. It's not really asking that much of him to wrestle two matches that people WANT to see. Over Cena-Rock II for the belt that nobody really wants. Why doesn't Cena-Rock II sell itself without the title?
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I don't think Punk ending the streak would make him any bigger, he doesn't need it. He won something like 2 matches on PPV in 2011 and never lost any heat, he's a multiple worlds champ, he has the longest reign in 20 years etc., him ending the streak would be a waste.
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Just having a guy feud with 'Taker at wrestlemania is a big enough rub if they're treated as a threat in the build. I'm honestly more shocked they haven't turned it into a yearly angle, guys competing for the right to challenge the streak.
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I am with Adamle... streak vs. Streak or bust!
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It's essentially a title match, it's promoted as one almost, why not make use of it on tv and give a few guys an angle for 3 or 4 weeks, bit late now of course.
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I'm the voice of the WWE Universe and Rock Vs Cena for the title sells more ppv's than Taker vs Punk. End of discussion. The Universe has spoken.
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You think Heath Slater is over. You know nothing.
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I remember seeing Punk vs Cabana open for an IWF show in Dearborn at the probable terrorist center Al-Matta hall in 2002. Never thought for a moment Punk would have made it as far as he did. He was a decent heel back then playing up his straightedge lifestyle. I remember thinking back then if he was only bigger he'd be a big time player. I thought Yukon Braxton would have made it but he died. However, I don't think Punk/Taker wouldn't be a good Rasslemania match. Undertaker would be way better off fighting Brock for mainstream appeal. Punk should rassle Daniel Bryan in a loser shaves their beard match.
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He isn't retired. He just announced he was officially part-time.
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HBK was better than HHH. Nobody has claimed he is. Shawn Michaels is the greatest wrestler of all time.
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...and that GIF stops right when the camera catches a "Get Well Soon HHH" sign. Typical liberal media horseshit.
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They should have done a funeral segment for HHH's hair.
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The crowd knows he'd be Val Venis without fucking the bosses daughter.
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