Official GTA: San Andreas Thread
 

Well since G has decided to not come here and make this, he told me to. They put up the first screenshots today.

http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen01.jpg
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen02.jpg
http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen03.jpg

Looks to be set in present day rather then in the 1970s like speculations said. I hope bikes are able to be riden in this one. Looks brilliant.

Looks pretty cool but Im not sure whether those are real or fake, any confirmation ?

Look at the image link they're from http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ so yeah I'd say they are real.

http://www.rockstargames.com/sanandreas/ss/screen02.jpg

Oh my god, it's David Blaine :eek:

:shifty: The game looks good.

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen004.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen005.jpg
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen006.jpg
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Those look pretty good.

Very modern = ratings.

I guess.

I like the whole Mafia schtick than gangbangers.

Looks good

I cant wait! i love the GTA series

:y:

They all looked like they were from the same gang, so there are probably other gangs/mobs in the game.

There better be, anyway.

Looks good. Wonder what features will be incorporated.

Early this morning, Rockstar released the first plot summary of GTA: SA, which confirmed its early 1990s millieu. Here it is verbatim:

"Five years ago Carl Johnson escaped from the pressures of life in Los Santos, San Andreas...a city tearing itself apart with gang trouble, drugs and corruption. Where filmstars and millionaires do their best to avoid the dealers and gangbangers.

Now, it's the early 90s. Carl's got to go home. His mother has been murdered, his family has fallen apart and his childhood friends are all heading towards disaster.

On his return to the neighborhood, a couple of corrupt cops frame him for homicide. CJ is forced on a journey that takes him across the entire state of San Andreas, to save his family and to take control of the streets."

All the information released by Rockstar indicates that the controversial Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas has not lost the rough-and-ready nature of its predecessors.

Credit goes to Gamespot

I can't wait to play it.

hmm, thought rockstars exclusive with ps or whatever had expired, yet they're still releasing it on ps2 first before pc or xbox...

Nah it is exclusive to PS2.

The only thing I am worried about is it will be getting too similar to The Getaway with all the different raced gangs etc which I didn't really enjoy seeing 100's of jamaicans running after me with machine guns so I doubt I am gonna feel any different doing it on GTA.

Another thing was the family mentioned. That is a new elemant to any GTA game which I am not sure it will make the game better or worse, have to wait till it comes out.

I sure as **** hope they won't put any 50 cent shit in there. Seeing as how it's based on the early 90's.

Maybe some Eazy-E

Hey Jason Cage, you could always change the station when his song plays, i'll be kinda real for you ;)

OMG, i want to play it right now :love:

yeah, music was good in the 90's.

Weren't 2Unlimited around in the early ninties??:shifty:

Yeah game look s great when it comes out it is undoubtedtly own the ps2 game charts like forever

I'm expecting some Public Enemy.

looks very.... i dunno. I was hoping for more of a jump in graphics, gameplay=fine, i was hoping for a better engine.

OK but am liking hopefully being able to ride bikes.

aswell as you should be able to swim.

ooo music.... alice in chains, soundgarden and nirvana on the rock station. Aswell as GnR and AJFA tallica.

Yeah if only you could swim on the older GTA games, I would have been invincible.

That's the point.

I think they should make you able to swim.. I mean, say the police are on you, you dive in the river, they sends boats towards you.. you'd get wasted by machine gun fire before you reach land :D, and when the cops aren't after you.. you have no reason to die in the river.. who can't swim :| have like shakrs or something that can get you, or if you hit it with enough force you die but if you just walk into or something you can swim.. I always thought it'll rule to drive a car into a river and bail out as it's over the water (H)

yeah, i just thought they would mostly have like rap songs. Seeing as how it's about black people and stuff :shifty:

Living Colour was early 90's. :shifty:

You can swim in the upcoming GTA...

Don't spread rumors. There is nothing comfirmed about swimming.

If you're going to let swimming in, just make it so you're able to do it for like 10 seconds. So in case you fall in you can swim out.

Ok update on features. The second picture is "suppose" to be the main character.

Also, GameInformer posted a 10 page preview with new screens. (They've told everyone to take them offline so I haven't seen the shots but when I find them...) Here's a summary on them.

Screenshots
- One pic shows the inside of a house, with rendered interior environments. There is furniture inside the house.
- One shows a helicopter with its searchlights on a runaway criminal.
- The others show how the main character can get fat, its a pic of him (fat) crossing the street with a donut shop in the background.
- One shows two other characters that are apart of the main character's crew.
- One shows a gang carjacking. Three guys with doo rag masks are carjacking other guys.
- One shows a four person drive-by.
- Another one shows a california type pimped out car.
- The last one shows the background of LA with a smog sky.

General
- The game is more serious than the others, but the elements of comedy are still there.
- A full staff of reasearch personnel at Rockstar have been studying Las Vegas, San Diego, and Los Angeles for months to ensure that they truly capture the feelings of these cities.

Location
- The game will not take place in Los Angeles, San Francisco, or Las Vegas. It will take place IN ALL THREE as well as the countryside in between.
- Los Angeles will be called Los Santos, San Francisco will be called San Fieero, and Las Vegas will be called Las Venturra.
- Each city is about the same size as Vice City.
- Not all cities will be open at the start of the game.
- The entire game will be about four to six times as large as Vice City.
- San Fierro (San Francisco) will have hills. This city is more driving based.
- You can drive from LA, through the countryside, up a mountain, into San Fran, and onto Las Vegas.
- Driving through the desert won’t be empty and plain with a couple cacti...it will be vibrant and alive with weird things to see.
- There will be a lot more buildings with open interiors.

Graphics
- The graphics engine has been tweaked. Smog will be present in LA, and real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, as well as new techniques like radial lighting, which allows for more realistic shadowing, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels will be present.
- Everything in the game now has independent models for day and night to give better lighting and shadowing.
- The game will have ragdoll physics, or “impact animation” in Rockstar’s words.

Vehicles
- As for vehicles, there will be pimped-out lowriders, and 90’s versions of some GTA3/VC cars will return.
- There will be bicycles.

Story
- Characters from the past will return.

Gameplay
- In the Las Vegas city, you will be able to buy and build a casino - and then run it.
- You can then gamble your money in the casino.
- Your character can wield duel pistols and potentially other weapons.
- You need to eat to retain your stamina. If you eat too much fast food, you become fat and pedestrians mock you for being fat. You also run slower. To remedy this, you can go to a gym to exercise.
- You can now rob homes. The robberies will require skill and planning, however.
- You can recruit gang members and use them to do four person drive-by’s.

Weapons
- The choice of weapons will match the time in which the era of the early 90's.

Artificial Intelligence
- Enemy/pedestrian AI will be greatly revamped and they will think more logically. You can't beat someone to death in broad daylight and not have people notice and react.
- Your enemies will be smarter, which will make robbing houses take a lot of skill.

Music
- There will be a rap station, but there will be a variety of other stations as always.

Also, on top of that there is another list about GameInformer.

GTA: San Andreas Features are....
-Improved Targeting System
-Dual Weapons
-Swimming
-New Stamina Meter, Meaning you'll need to eat and maintain weight.
-House Break-Ins
-3 Citys = 1 State
Los Santos (Los Angeles),
San Fierro (San Fransico), and
Las Venturra (Las Vegas)
-You Will Play as Carl Johnson
-More Hills
-Improved AI
-Ability to Ride Bicycles
-Four-Person Drive Bys
-Ability to recurit new gang members
-Takes place in Early 1990's
-Improved Grahpics, as well as detail
-Improved Interiors

Those are both two different sources stating, mostly, the same thing, so I believe it's quite reliable. Some of it may be false but, as of now, this is what everyone can expect from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

Regarding the last post, those all seem to be "confirmed". If that's true, I can't explain how excited I am for this game. Reminds me exactly of how I felt when Vice City was released.

... oh... ****.. yes :drool:

Las Venturra :cool:

I'm gonna hang around the Black Jack tablesssss

:shifty:

..*cools down*

I wasn't spreading a rumour, I knew it'd been confirmed. My bad though for not backing it up with the updates you posted, which is where I got it from...

:drool: :drool:

Thank you, DS.

Shit, looks awesome.

The confirmed stuff is gonna make it awesome game.

Yeah, that was my fault. I didn't think it was confirmed when I frist read the GI article and when I went back I saw it. Thanks for telling me.

Sweet jesus that is awesome.

In Vice City when I was pissed off I'd get a prostitute to hop in my car and I'd drive the sucker into the ocean and jump out at the last second. The prostitute would stay in the car and try to get out after it landed in the water. Drowned every time! Then I'd have fun shooting the car until it blew up.

looks great. the 10 second swimming thing is a good idea. i'd hate to have to swim for f</>ucking miles to reach land.

Yeah that's what I was thinking. I know in games like Battlefield when I parachute in the water and I have to swim to land I just kill myself it takes so long. Would get old fast. And if you could swim for just a while the times you accidently fall in you have enough time to get out.

I can see myself just cruising the highways between cities. I love the driving in GTA. I still cruise on Vice City occasionally and this game sounds like it could have some long ass roads.

:lol:

I would jump to the conclusion that everyone remembers how large GTA III and Vice City were so with that in mind: The entire game is approximately four to six times as large as either GTA III or Vice City.

San Fierro has plenty of hills and thus is more focused on driving. Specialty vehicles can be unlocked to bring new fun to the environment of the cities. (I would guess we're talking about some off road vehicles here...or something to that extent)

Because of some new streaming and rendering that Rockstar designed themselves, San Andreas will feature environments that are both more intricate and more interactive than Vice City.

The graphics engine has been overhauled and now has new techniques like radial lighting which gives more realistic shadowing. The engine also includes real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels.

San Andreas will push the limits on interiors. While Vice City introduced the idea of interiors, most of them were nothing but detailed save points. In SA however, tons of interiors have been fully rendered out and made more interactive, for example robbing houses.

San Andreas will have scores of unique interiors, dozens of restaurants, and a fully operational casino. While many of these would have been mere novelties in the past, they now directly affect your characters progression, abilities, and even appearance.

Purchasing buildings was just touched on in Vice City. Now, it has a much higher importance. In San Andreas the idea of building your criminal empire has been taken a lot further, for example in Las Venturra you can buy, build, and run your own casino. Every part of the San Andreas society will be precise - from the rich residents to the ones living in suburban areas to the maniacs in the countryside. San Andreas will push the envelope on feeling more like a living, breathing world than its predecessors were.

The game is not about gangbanging. There will be a rap station, but as always there will be a variety of other types of music. No details on the radio stations has been released.

San Andreas will have some characters from past games making reappearances or being mentioned. There will be plenty of fun things to catch if you followed the stories of the previous games.

NPCs now react to you more intelligently with their new "brains." For example, before you could kill someone in the middle of the street in broad daylight and have no one notice. This won’t be the case in San Andreas. NPC intelligence now has a need for hour long recording sessions, which was only ten minutes in Vice City. San Andreas will have plenty of well known and some excellent unknown voice acting talents.

You will also be able to recruit gang members to aid you during missions, and one use for them is a four person drive-by. You can run your gang, but you won’t be checking on inventory or anything like that. You will run it in a way where you are kept in the story, through phone calls and speaking to people. In Vice City and GTA III you were either on a mission or you weren’t, and the story didn’t feel like it progress outside the missions. Well now the game changes all the time. While you aren’t on a mission, you can things that reflect your position in the storyline. You can take up side missions where you can learn a skill you need for a mission.

Money has a greater use than it did in Vice City. Outside missions you can rob homes to earn some cash. However, house robbing is nothing like carjacking. It will take a lot of skill and planning to pull it off.

As you progress in the story, you can open up new things to do outside missions, which are still tied into the story. In Las Venturra you can gamble your money in your casino. The way things unlock are more complex now. There are basic tutorials at the start of the game, and then on each mission you can learn a skill. So in every mission you will be doing something new, and the game will stay fresh and challenging throughout the story.

Your character also changes depending on what you do. There are plenty of restaurants around San Andreas and you have to eat to stay healthy and retain your stamina. If you eat fast food often and don’t go to the gym, your character becomes fat, and this changes the game. Pedestrians call you a fat bastard, your running speed and strength are low, and your character’s physics change. Being fat makes missions more difficult or in some cases not possible. To fix being fat, you can go to gyms to work out. Working out gives you strength and more speed, and your character model looks fit. Rockstar wants to make you feel like you have complete control over the story and over your character, and this example of his weight is just the tip of the iceberg.

The targeting and camera systems are being overhauled. While no details have been released, Rockstar made references to features in Manhunt, and promises that the targeting will be really fun this time.

All new animations have been designed. Hand-to-hand combat will be more improved to include more variety in stances, attacks, and control over the fighting. There will be new styles of carjacking. Swimming is now included in the game. Rockstar has put in a lot of new weapons with more variety, and also focused on revamping old ones to feel more unique. Your character can dual wield pistols and possibly other weapons.

The vehicle physics engine is being changed to improve car handling and open up the possibility of new types of transportation. Vice City ranged from a moped to a plane, and the range in SA is much bigger at both ends this time. You can even ride a bicycle in San Andreas and you will have to press buttons to pedal it.
-Game Informer

A lot of that I had already posted but there is some more in depth and new stuff there. Let's take a second to think about this. By the time the first information of Vice City came out they revealed very small details on the new features. Same with III. Yet, now they are releasing what we would conisder "huge" information from the first article. I believe this is just the beginning to what we can expect from San Andreas.

Five months. :'(

San Andreas, Halo 2, Kill Zone, Star Wars Republic Commando, Metroid Prime 2

All come out in November. :( I have to get at least 4 of those.

I heard that Tommy Vercetti is in SA as a middle-aged fat mafia boss although I got told by a friend who may very well have been lying.

How would your friend know this?

Does anyone use a reliable site that they would preorder the game from?

I have HEARD some of those from people, but rumours to flow like water through the internet, so you wont really know until Rockstar give us the details.

San Andreas... I can smell the cash flow... can we say... 100's of millions (H)

I am not sure whether he knows it or he just heard a rumour himself.

It's fine, I know how you can sometimes get people who come into a thread and say things have been confirmed, and nine times out of ten they're lying. I'm the same as you. I won't believe it unless there's evidence.

As for the game, I realy can't wait. I don't play much on my PS2 anymore, and the only games I buy are Pro Evolution Soccer, Grand Theft Auto and Smackdown! All the rest I lend off friends. :D So yeah, I'm really hyped for this game. It's my favourite game ever. I remember years ago going to the video store with my mum so I could buy the first one. :$

There is a chance that Lazlow could be coming back in this one. He sent emails saying that the answer is simple and he would leave it at that. I hope he makes a return in this one.

I always use Amazon in a situation like that...

Cheaper, very reliable, and have always got the game to me very quickly...

EBgames.com and Gamestop.com are what I would use unless you want to go directly from Rockstar.

Ok here are the GI screens. If anyone contacts me, well I'll have to kill you all.

http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15...1312055091.jpg
http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15...1231967993.jpg
http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15...1223949310.jpg
First off...LOL look at the name of the shop. Tuff Nut.
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http://bbs.hnol.net/theimg/2004-5-15...1225456867.jpg

lol he looks like a fat Dr Dre

Sweet Johnson.

*Sweet Penis

:|

Yes?

Thank you, G. That means a lot. I expect you to help me make this thread just as big as the others. Get Optic to post here too.

I bet I beat this before you two again....

I got 100% on VC before either of you were even done.

I got 100% way before either of you in GTA 3....

I'm not going to rush into the missions straight away, I'm going to explore the cities, take mental notes about the good ways to go and where all the cool stuff is :cool:

That is not ":cool:", Hired Hitman.

<font color=goldenrod>I'll probably go right into the missions, as I did with VC and GTA3.</font>

Hey optic who cares?

i love the four person drive by shootings...also the car jackers come in gangs and are more ruthless

They need to have the Beastie Boys if they are going to do a Hip Hop/Rap station. I will actually turn it to that station if they do...and right off if 50 hits.

NICE

I liked GTA3 A LOT better then Vice City

I DUNNO something about Vice City...I didnt like how it wasnt really modern :-\

Yeah, I know what you mean. They both had their pluses. I liked III better in general as a game but I loved some of the features in Vice City. Loved them both though.

Notice the picture of the house break in. The guy in the middle is either crouching and walking or using wall cover. They said that it would have the gameplay feel like Manhunt and it had wall cover so maybe you will be able to use it in this one.

Word. Them, Public Enemy and Cypress Hill.

lol Cypress Hill

PE I could see but Cypress Hill shouldn't even be mentioned ever again. GTA Superstar.

so whats the basic story line? I suppose i could read the ten pages in my game informer but id rather get a quick paragraph on the basic story.. i like you can rob houses now to.

It's on the first page.

You can't judge a band by one song, Rueful.

I can judge it when they make 3 versions of it. And seeing how the rest of the CD was terrible, I think I can make a sound conclusion.

Don't judge a band by one cd that was made after they changed the original lineup either.

Penner, please do not speak unless spoken to. Thanks in advance. :y:

I hope they have the GTA theme, you know the one, "Good shot kid, I think you got him... Good shot kid, I think you got him... weeeeeeeee (something :| :D) Hometown, downtown, speeding all around
an AK47 got the power in its barrel to
move any mother that gets in my way
just another power machine out on the freeway

Riding with me is my MC homeboy
knowing the rules ain't part of his program
finding the right way around this map
might be pretty hard cause he's ****ed on crack [or "Lips" in GTA3]

G - Grand Theft Auto
you gotta make a mark and move where you want to

T - Theft
determination
to steal what you can and run from the nation

A - Hey what d'ya say
we automate the sequence and speed for my getaway
take it to the edge, there's nowhere to hide
and call up the boys, let's go for a joyride
let's go for a joyride

"stop the violence from the police" you know my dad used to say but now he's deceased
he got caught in a jam, threw in the can
when the cops from Brooklyn said he killed another man
seek knowledge was my main game
to think about the law, to figure out the frame
just when I thought I knew justice, a cop behind me said
"You just been busted"

NYPD (NYPD)

LAPD (LAPD)

SFPD (SFPD)

don't **** with me [or "106" in GTA3 :mad: ]

I loved that song so much :love:

Hey.

Shut the **** up.

Thanks in advance. :y:

hey has there been anyword on the multiplayer situation?

it woudl be cool to play LAN and 2 people could do the game together. or even mroe then 2 at least 4! :)

Hopefully this game will be coming on XBOX pretty soon, anyone know?

Itll be some time after PS2

No word on multiplayer but I wouldn't hold it against them. Rockstar had some experience with online multiplay with Midnight Club 2 so...

And I would expect the Xbox version to be about a year from now at the earliest. If it comes out.