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Jordan 03-15-2013 11:11 AM

Brock Lesnar vs Triple H - The Stip
 
What stipulation would you like to see for this Wrestlemania match?

Some are reporting an "MMA" match, which to me would be ridiculous in WWE.
Shamrock's Lions Den Match was one thing, but to recognize one match on the show as "more real" than any other sounds like a big mistake to me.

I am hoping for and think the best choice would be a Hell in a Cell. Simple, and effective.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-15-2013 11:20 AM

Sledgehammer match with Peter Gabriel performing live for Triple H's intro.

Schlomey 03-15-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 4146880)
Sledgehammer match with Peter Gabriel performing live for Triple H's intro.

Great song. Horrible entrance music for anyone. Sledgehammer on a pole match?

Corporate CockSnogger 03-15-2013 11:27 AM

It would work perfectly if Trips dropped the serious, intense walk to the ring and opted for a more rhythmical dance in time with the music. Maybe even miming along with the words.

Schlomey 03-15-2013 11:35 AM

Doing that shovel dance.

Heisenberg 03-15-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlomey (Post 4146891)
Doing that shovel dance.

Grandmaster Sexay perfected the shovel dance.

Xero 03-15-2013 12:02 PM

I'm guessing Lion's Den, but I could see them re-branding it. Don't think they'd do the Cell twice in a row, but a caged environment kind of makes sense to me for the brutality and the fact that Lesnar is in it.

If not Lion's Den or Cell, I could see the following:

I Quit or Submission
First Blood (Though Brock would have to be careful as hell, because he seems to have a tendancy to bust people open legit now.)
MMA-style rules, maybe in rounds but more legal wrestling tactics

Outside of a new match, those are really the only matches I could see them going with and it making sense to the characters.

If not Lion's Den, I want to see First Blood, just because it would actually mean a lot in this day and age. Almost unheard of. It'd be a true spectacle.

MoFo 03-15-2013 12:09 PM

I know it's wrestling and thus "not real", but HHH has never trained MMA and is kind of a huge pussy who hangs round with Justin Beiber and licks his bosses arse.

So yeah, any MMA type match should end in Brock squashing him in about 10 secs.

Nicky Fives 03-15-2013 12:22 PM

"Wife Swap" Match, Rena for Steph

Savio 03-15-2013 12:27 PM

"Judy Bagwell on a pole" match.

crusnik 03-15-2013 01:12 PM

A simple steel cage ladder match with the sledgehammer dangling in the middle.

James Steele 03-15-2013 01:45 PM

"I Quit" Match.

Brock Lesnar annhilates Triple H and Steph/Vince throw in the towel to stop the match.

James Steele 03-15-2013 01:46 PM

Even better would be an "I Quit" Cage Match. Just do an I Quit match inside the normal cage.

steveweiser 03-15-2013 02:03 PM

I quit match/submission match wouldn't work for me. As Brock is well noted a previous UFC champion, aswell as having broken Triple H arm twice, any kind of submission match should be over within seconds for Brock. Id like to see a lions den/octogon match but under wrestling rules, just like cage but in an actagon i suppose. Hell in a Cell, while it is a huge match doesn't seem to have any reasoning behind it.

Sayin all that it is WrestleMania so im sure whatever happens will be great no doubt.

Rollermacka 03-15-2013 02:26 PM

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Barbed Wire Electrified Ring Time Bomb Death Match. Time to pull out all the stops, this is Wrestlemainia damm it!

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-15-2013 02:33 PM

MMA match or submission match. It's Brock's choice. Why wouldn't he choose the types of matches he has the greatest advantage over Triple H in? Hell in the Cell is Triple H's match even though Brock has won in one against the Undertaker. Hmmm maybe Hell in the Cell because of that.

Brock: I beat Taker in Hell in the Cell.

Triple H: :mad:

Savio 03-15-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4146974)
Barbed Wire Electrified Ring Time Bomb Death Match. Time to pull out all the stops, this is Wrestlemainia damm it!

James Steele used to make some crazy Stip matches as well.

Shadrick 03-15-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4146947)
"I Quit" Match.

Brock Lesnar annhilates Triple H and Steph/Vince throw in the towel to stop the match.

Do a majestic hair match. Triple H wins unanimously.

Emperor Smeat 03-15-2013 03:11 PM

MMA or I Quit match.

A retirement match would have been huge except for the fact of the news weeks ago about Lesnar signing a new 1-year deal. Same for Triple H who probably will follow Vince when it comes to being the on-screen boss and have a few matches in the future.

Black Widow 03-15-2013 03:39 PM

weapon of their choice match, hunter would have a shovel and brock would have a farmers rake.

#1-norm-fan 03-15-2013 05:20 PM

I vote "I Quit" match.

Flash Funk 03-15-2013 06:53 PM

When Paul was talking about it, I got the feeling it was more of a Brock wins, Heyman becomes GM.

Lock Jaw 03-15-2013 06:59 PM

Falls Count Somewhere Matchup.

You can only make the pin at a certain location in or around the arena. You need to find clues to this location as you fight your opponent.

Mr. Nerfect 03-15-2013 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flash Funk (Post 4147097)
When Paul was talking about it, I got the feeling it was more of a Brock wins, Heyman becomes GM.

This is what I think they've been building up to all along. Except with the stakes perhaps even a bit higher. I've been thinking they might have Lesnar and Triple H fighting over ownership of the WWE itself. If Brock Lesnar wins, as he did at SummerSlam, Heyman takes over the WWE and gets to unleash what he considers to be his genius on all.

I definitely do think the match will have some sort of No DQ stip, but I think it will just be that. Actually, I hope it's just that. Give us a good old fashioned No Holds Barred Match. The only other match type I'd be interested in seeing between these two is an I Quit Match, but I don't feel it's just right for that yet. Maybe if they ever do Lesnar vs. Triple H III, which I can see them doing at Money in the Bank or something later in the year when they want to boost a buyrate of a PPV or something.

whiteyford 03-15-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4147103)
Falls Count Somewhere Matchup.

You can only make the pin at a certain location in or around the arena. You need to find clues to this location as you fight your opponent.

I can picture them in a scavenger hunt match now, would open the PPV and we'd get backstage segments of them finding clues and interacting with various HOFers and celebrities. Ron Simmons would get the customary 'DAMN' line of course.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-15-2013 07:20 PM

A Three Holds Barred match. Just three things can get you disqualified, the fun part? Nobody but the ref knows what those three things are.

whiteyford 03-15-2013 07:26 PM

I want to see the scavenger hunt match now, maybe in TNA I guess.

Droford 03-15-2013 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4147103)
Falls Count Somewhere Matchup.

You can only make the pin at a certain location in or around the arena. You need to find clues to this location as you fight your opponent.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3383060)
Falls count somewhere in the arena but the two wrestlers dont know where and they have to fight it out all over the arena to find out where. they are allowed to ask the ref if they are hot or cold.

Get your own ideas Locky. That was my idea.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4138836)
Hhh vs lesnar should be under mma rules

Also my idea

The Condor 03-15-2013 07:56 PM

Retirement match :shifty:

Lock Jaw 03-15-2013 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4147157)
Get your own ideas Locky. That was my idea.

My idea had clues. Screw your referee hot/cold business.

Ruien 03-15-2013 09:26 PM

First blood or a regular hardcore rules match.

What Would Kevin Do? 03-15-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4146947)
"I Quit" Match.

Brock Lesnar annhilates Triple H and Steph/Vince throw in the towel to stop the match.

Actually, flip that.

Have HHH do something evil to Lesnar in the end, and have Heyman throw in the towel.

Have Brock snap and destroy Heyman either after the match, or on Raw the next night. Have CM Punk save Heyman, and start a Punk vs Lesnar feud.

It would be "the shit."

dingdongyo 03-15-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4146974)
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Barbed Wire Electrified Ring Time Bomb Death Match. Time to pull out all the stops, this is Wrestlemainia damm it!

holy shit, did that siren get annoying. also, the headbutting was redic.

Shisen Kopf 03-15-2013 11:34 PM

Xpac on a pole match

Classy and Gassy 03-16-2013 11:25 AM

it will never happen but it would be funny if Brock demanded a standard one fall match

#1-norm-fan 03-16-2013 12:22 PM

Isn't Brock a farmer? Clearly if you think about it, a hog pen match is the smart move...

Jordan 03-16-2013 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 4146895)
I'm guessing Lion's Den, but I could see them re-branding it. Don't think they'd do the Cell twice in a row, but a caged environment kind of makes sense to me for the brutality and the fact that Lesnar is in it.

If not Lion's Den or Cell, I could see the following:

I Quit or Submission
First Blood (Though Brock would have to be careful as hell, because he seems to have a tendancy to bust people open legit now.)
MMA-style rules, maybe in rounds but more legal wrestling tactics

Outside of a new match, those are really the only matches I could see them going with and it making sense to the characters.

If not Lion's Den, I want to see First Blood, just because it would actually mean a lot in this day and age. Almost unheard of. It'd be a true spectacle.

I don't see Lions Den because it's SO SHAMROCK. BUT, First Blood, a match in the past I usually disliked (because the common nature of blading)... BUT NOW, it would be a great draw match and pretty cool to wait for someone to bleed.

Jordan 03-16-2013 12:35 PM

I gotta say though, I hate how in a first blood match, it's over as soon as there is blood. It doesn't seem like the right way to end a match to me. Never has.

Droford 03-16-2013 12:41 PM

Obviously has to be settled in the Punjabi Prison match with special guest referee the Great Khali

Stickman 03-16-2013 01:08 PM

Street fight makes te most sense

Theo Dious 03-16-2013 03:50 PM

MMA rules, but I doubt there will be a cage.

Perry Saturn 03-16-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4146905)
"Judy Bagwell on a pole" match.

I second this motion.

Mr. Nerfect 03-16-2013 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 4147284)
Actually, flip that.

Have HHH do something evil to Lesnar in the end, and have Heyman throw in the towel.

Have Brock snap and destroy Heyman either after the match, or on Raw the next night. Have CM Punk save Heyman, and start a Punk vs Lesnar feud.

It would be "the shit."

With the Payback PPV being in Chicago, I feel that the WWE would be foolish not to do something big with Punk heading into that event. It could be Punk challenging for the WWE Title, but the WWE could also offer a CM Punk "dream match" for the show.

For the last couple of months I've been wondering if the WWE would ever consider running "Punk vs. Austin" as its own "big fight" PPV, instead of just using it on the card of one of their existing supershows. I imagined a scenario where Paul Heyman and CM Punk announced their own show for Chicago, where Joey Styles would do the commentary with Jim Ross and they would pick all the matches. Kind of like a modern, non-ECW themed approach to the "One Night Stand" concept. Punk vs. Austin being the main event for that would be very special. Brock Lesnar would also do a "special appearance" for Punk and Heyman on the show.

The reason I bring that up is because it seems like Payback could be a good PPV for to give Punk and Heyman that centre stage. Perhaps Punk can win the WWE Title between WrestleMania and Payback and then Heyman can assert Lesnar as a challenger for Punk, who knows something shady is going on and plays the cool "face by default" heading into the match with Lesnar, where no one gives him a chance.

James Steele 03-16-2013 09:19 PM

Steve Austin's return for one more match will not happen on any show other than WrestleMania.

James Steele 03-16-2013 09:21 PM

Nor should it.

Bobo 03-18-2013 05:57 AM

I don't think they'll go for an MMA rules match for the reason another user pointed out i.e. making everything else look inferior.

I think either First-Blood, Falls Count Anywhere, or an Iron-Man Match.

Personally I'd prefer an Iron-Man match as we haven't had one of those for some time. Or perhaps a "Falls Count Anywhere-Iron Man Match?"

Anything that reduces the amount of time available for Brodus Clay to appear on screen is fine by me.

Bobo 03-18-2013 05:59 AM

Or perhaps if Brock Lesnar wins then Paul Heyman becomes WWE Chairman and if Triple H wins Paul Heyman has to quit or joins the Kiss my Ass club or something.

#1-norm-fan 03-18-2013 06:17 AM

Can't be an Iron Man match. It would drain the crowd before the main event of WrestleMania and it just doesn't make sense for the situation.

I'm hoping it isn't first blood as I feel like it's just a cheap way to end a match.

I'm really hoping for an "I Quit" match. The finish would pretty much be guaranteed to be something intriguing and it would make sense if Brock gets to choose the stipulation seeing as how he's already made Triple H tap and now the next step is the ultimate humiliation of making him say "I quit" on the biggest stage of all.

voncouch 03-18-2013 10:57 AM

I figured they were just going to go for a Last Man Standing match. I Quit would be entertaining, but I can't imagine either one saying the words without killing their characters.

I didn't even think about an MMA style match. I really hope they don't. That would be really dumb.

#1-norm-fan 03-18-2013 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voncouch (Post 4149065)
I figured they were just going to go for a Last Man Standing match. I Quit would be entertaining, but I can't imagine either one saying the words without killing their characters.

I can't imagine Brock saying it at all, obviously. I can imagine Triple H saying it to some extent. The guy's a businessman now and if he thinks it's gonna make Brock look even more amazing, he'd probably make himself look weak to do it. He doesn't have much more to look strong for as far as being a wrestler.

I'd imagine if they did go that route, it would be more likely to end with a towel getting thrown in or a knockout or some kind of trickery. There's gotta be a reason for a rematch as opposed to "Brock destroys him clean again." Maybe HBK throwing in the towel or something could lead to something else.

James Steele 03-19-2013 03:50 AM

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck, I don't like this stipulation.

Tazz Dan 03-19-2013 04:31 AM

Lesnar retires HHH...... And sets up the storyline for next year against Taker.

Droford 03-19-2013 04:48 AM

Brock Lesnar, Brand New COO of World Wrestling Entertainment

should make for great tv

VSG 03-19-2013 09:42 AM

I think he meant in-ring career, dumbass.

The Naitch 03-19-2013 09:47 AM

terrible stipulation

The Condor 03-19-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4147185)
Retirement match :shifty:

Nailed it

PrettyCool 03-19-2013 01:52 PM

"Mexican Burritos Match"

The ring is surrounded by tables of burritos. The wrestlers must eat the burritos as they fight. The first to throw up loses the match. Also both wear sombreros.

Lock Jaw 03-19-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrettyCool (Post 4150731)
"Mexican Burritos Match"

The ring is surrounded by tables of burritos. The wrestlers must eat the burritos as they fight. The first to throw up loses the match. Also both wear sombreros.

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NormanSmiley 03-20-2013 03:26 AM

am i crazy/senile or didnt HHH retire last year after he lost at mania?? wasnt there a speech? tears? a walk to the back and a goodbye??

#1-norm-fan 03-20-2013 03:29 AM

You are crazy.

He did that after SummerSlam.

NormanSmiley 03-20-2013 03:33 AM

got my seasons mixed up

James Steele 03-20-2013 04:43 AM

He never said he was retiring though. He said that he felt like his career was over.

James Steele 03-20-2013 04:44 AM

AKA - Losing to Brock shattered him emotionally and physically which is why once he recovered he became obsessed with getting revenge on Brock and now he has his chance at WrestleMania.

Jesus, do any of you fuckers actually pay attention to the material you incessantly bitch about?

#1-norm-fan 03-20-2013 04:51 AM

Is looking back on Triple H's dramatic post SummerSlam speech going to make it more or less depressing for you when Brock Lesnar shits all over Triple H's career in a 30 minute squash at WrestleMania?

Savio 03-20-2013 02:02 PM

Lesnar will win in 18 seconds

#1-norm-fan 03-20-2013 05:00 PM

17

James Steele 03-20-2013 10:42 PM

You can all fuck off and die in the most slow and painful way possible.

Theo Dious 03-20-2013 10:48 PM

Ok... basically, everyone was sure HHH was going to win... so they throw in this stip to put in some doubt because it makes sense that HHH might retire. Very boring, lazy, and predictable.

James Steele 03-20-2013 10:55 PM

Shut the fuck up.

James Steele 03-20-2013 10:56 PM

When is the last time someone won a match when their career was on the line?

#1-norm-fan 03-20-2013 11:14 PM

Ric Flair won a ton before losing to HBK at Mania.

Lock Jaw 03-20-2013 11:14 PM

Ric Flair (before he lost).

Lock Jaw 03-20-2013 11:14 PM

Dammit Hashtag One WWF Fan!

#1-norm-fan 03-20-2013 11:18 PM

#StealingYourPosts

Dark One 03-21-2013 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4150742)

Come on Lock Jaw, you can do better than that.


James Steele 03-21-2013 12:56 AM

Ric Flair doesn't count because we all knew he wasn't going to end his career jobbing to Carlito on SmackDown!

I'm talking a one-off PPV major match where their career is on the line.

#1-norm-fan 03-21-2013 01:03 AM

Cena vs Edge TLC 2006

James Steele 03-21-2013 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4152068)
Cena vs Edge TLC 2006

That was a "Title vs Cena's Brand" match. If Cena lost, he went to SmackDown! not the retirement home. Try again, asshat. :kiss:

#1-norm-fan 03-21-2013 02:11 AM

Triple H vs Brock Lesnar WrestleMania XXIX

lol JK

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XL 03-21-2013 07:48 AM

I can see HHH winning only to retire "on his terms" the following night.

Savio 03-21-2013 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4152062)
Ric Flair doesn't count because we all knew he wasn't going to end his career jobbing to Carlito on SmackDown!

I'm talking a one-off PPV major match where their career is on the line.

JBL vs Booker T for the WWE title at some PPV

James Steele 03-21-2013 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4152196)
I can see HHH winning only to retire "on his terms" the following night.

Fuck that. Triple H needs to follow in the footsteps of his mentor...

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Mr. Nerfect 03-23-2013 12:52 PM

I agree with those that say the stipulation is terrible. I'm not bashing Triple H or Brock Lesnar -- I'm actually quite hyped for their match -- but the idea that Heyman and Lesnar essentially goad Triple H out of anonymity so that they can retire him is a bit silly. OK, so it was Triple H that attacked Brock first and wants another match and they're making him put it all on the line for it, but shouldn't the WWE be trying to sell that severity of a No Holds Barred Match with Brock Lesnar? Shouldn't Lesnar getting his hands on Triple H again be the end of Triple H due to the dangerous nature of Brock? Why the insurance policy on top of that?

Paul Heyman making Triple H and Vince McMahon put control of the WWE on the line would have made perfect sense. Heyman would get something that he has wanted for a long time -- to put Vince McMahon out of business. It would also add the drama of Triple H potentially destroying the father-in-law he was trying to protect with his guns blazing approach. Plus, the idea of "Everything Changes if We Win!" is enough to really sell WrestleMania as an event that any wrestling fan can't miss.

Yeah, Triple H's "career" as a full-time performer means a lot, but he isn't the full-time guy any more. Hell, his match with The Undertaker was billed as "End of an Era," and he lost that match.

And on a pro-Triple H note, I don't want his career to end. I want to see him get back in the ring and mix it up when the situation calls for it. Triple H vs. Dolph Ziggler, for example, could be great.

James Steele 03-23-2013 01:31 PM

I really think they missed out on not doing an "I Quit" Match. I think the idea of putting WWE on the line is silly. Maybe have Triple H put up his COO position on the line or something, but long-term it doesn't work. Remember when Vince was relieved of his duties and everybody bitched when he came back and started making decisions again? The "I Quit" match could have been just a brutal as this match this will be with the added drama. I think seeing Triple H screaming in pain as Stephanie and Vince finally can't take it anymore and throw in the towel is perfect. Hell, have Triple H's sister and parents sitting in the crowd and begging Stephanie/Vince. They've never been on WWE TV before. FFS, if you are going to put Brock over as an unstoppable god of destruction, then go all out. We've seen Triple H tap out already, the only logical place to go is to completely crush his and his family's souls.

James Steele 03-23-2013 01:32 PM

...or Triple H could win and make a full-time return. #boner

Mr. Nerfect 03-27-2013 09:59 AM

An I Quit Match would be really cool between the two, I'd have to admit. I'm not entirely sure that Triple H is losing this, though. I always had him pegged to beat Lesnar this go around, and I still think that Shawn Michaels could be involved in that. It'd address the issues between Lesnar and HBK from the SummerSlam build, and I know that my dreams of having HBK return for one night against Lesnar are unrealistic, but I'm sure the WWE would love to release another HBK shirt as well as a bit more DX merchandise.

Triple H could announce that he is retiring on RAW anyway, and then The Shield could crash his party and take him out with the Triple Powerbomb. Have Triple H then decide that these youngin's need a good sledgin'. John Cena, The Rock & Triple H vs. The Shield at Extreme Rules could be huge business. Just have The Shield attack John Cena and The Rock at some point during their "I respect you" sequences and you've got three of the biggest stars of all-time aligning to take on evil rookies.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-27-2013 03:03 PM

Why come out of retirement for a retirement match?

James Steele 03-27-2013 05:31 PM

Shut the fuck up. He never officially retired you bloody mong.


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