Current WWE guys who have "no future" ?
 

What are some current WWE stars who u think are pretty sure have no future in WWE other than to be released eventually?
Heres who I think,

Zach Ryder
Curt Hawkins
Heath Slater
David Otunga
Jinder Mahal
Khali
Drew McIntyre
Natalya
Tamina

not all of those people are guys

Guyw can refer to both men and women. Most of the cashiwrs at work are women yet when I come in the morning I still say Hi guys or what up guys and they say hello back

they're probably really offended

Don't forget Sin Cara.

fan dan go

Christian

Ssssssh shut your mouth.



You really shut your mouth. :foc:

You shut your whore mouth

Just speaking the truth. Everyone knows he's the Canadian stepchild of the DubDubEee

Pretty sure the Fandango gimmick has no future. If he can get rid of it somehow, different story for him.

heath slater is the only one on your list i do not agree with, ok he is jobber for life but i always see him working. thr guy gets moves and faces over.

Otunga could easily have a future if they actually did something with him. He got great reactions when he was Johnny Ace's adviser and all he had to do was show up and sip coffee and get squashed once in a while. They should have tossed him in to the movie feud with Miz and Barrett.

You mean when he was exactly the same except by himself?

Given the tendency to minimize gender differences in the US, I highly doubt that would be commonly offensive. Similarly in Spanish, ellos refers to both an all-male group or to a mixed-sex group, whereas ellas refers only to an all-female group. That is just like saying "guys" to refer to men and women.

Yes, a movie feud would be refreshing. Hogan and Rock could have gone that route but didn't for some reason.

Yoshi Tatsu
Prince Albert

Sin Cara is still salvageable. As is Tensai.

Tensai is pretty old. I think he's pretty much at the position right now that he's gonna be at for the rest of his WWE career.

Zack Ryder kind of needs to go, he's got Carlito syndrome where he thinks he's amazing and publicly criticizes his lack of a push all the time.

The Rock

You made some powerful enemies

Alex Riley
Mason Ryan

Darren Young is gonna get Marty Jannetty'ed by this time next year

He's not that old. And anything can happen in a short amount of time. Remember when big show went from jobbing on heat to world champion in the span of a month?

Is Mason Ryan still under contract?

I think he's mostly on NXT now.

Best place for him, I'm sure I read some interviews with Mason Ryan when he won the FCW title / moved up to the main roster where he pretty much said "I don't know why they're pushing me so fast, I'm still learning how to work and I'm terrible". Probably not word for word because of his accent.

Show had that history of being a former world champion and long-time main eventer already though. It would be harder to just plug Tensai in as a main eventer at will. I feel like he's already peaked as far as card placement. He's in a good spot now.

If not Show, remember that time Jack Swagger went from jobbing to being World Champion?

That was them trying to build a new star though. Tensai is in his 40s now and not a guy WWE would realistically look at as a star of tomorrow.

Tensai just doesn't fit that mold to me. Even in Henry's case, he looks intimidating as fuck. Tensai just doesn't have that main event factor to me and the fact that he's been dropped back down to a comedy face (and a good one at that) at 40 after never touching the main event doesn't bode well.

Pretty sure everybody agrees with you. They're saying "never say never".

Ezekiel Jackson.

Outside of the small IC title reign and jokes by wrestlers about what the back of his head looks like, he hasn't really done much in the WWE in the past several years. Being injured for most of last year hasn't helped either.

Alex Riley- Though I am a huge fan of A-Ry, WWE is just pissing away money to keep him under contract if they aren't going to use him.

A-Train- He should have stayed in Japan.

Zack Ryder- I have tons of respect that he was able to get over on his own...but WWE made it clear, you only get over in the company when they say you can.

Yoshi- see A-train

JGT- I forget he is still in WWE

Curt Hawkins- I say pair him back with Ryder, another Tag team for the tag team Division but WWE doesn't want to do that.

Let's juts put Chris Masters on this list as well

Also the tree

Zeke is the latest and greatest ECW Champion

Christian should be released for sure. Boring as fuck.

Otunga isn't going anywhere as long as he's Mr. Hudson. I can't see Alex Riley going anywhere in WWE

I'm surprised Alex Riley never gets a match, even Yoshi Tatsu appeared out of the abyss on Main Event the other week.

Heath Slater

Heath Slater is a future World Champ! Christian will be jobbing his way out the door to Slater. No room for vanilla midgets in this company.

Yoshi Tatsu will stick around until another Japanese wrestler replaces him- I imagine they want at least one at all times for promotional appearances and such.

I wouldnt go as far as saying Heath Slater will be world champ some day- but I think he'll have a long career

Christian is a former World Heavyweight Champion. Slater is a former........something

Christian is a way better heel and probably at this point best served in a tag team with an up and coming heel.

I agree with tossing Otunga into the Miz/Barrett rivalry. Have Brad Maddox throw Otunga into their WrestleMania match as the Special Guest Referee to "spice" their bout up. He doesn't even need to do anything heelish, but I guess he could cost The Miz the match and then put Miz over in coming weeks to bounce him back.

I miss Justin Gabriel & Heath Slater Heath Slater. I really think the WWE had Gabriel & Slater split way too early. They just sort of broke up because they were both put into Money in the Bank in 2011. They really should have worked together in that match and stayed together as a tag team afterwards.

I really like 3MB, although I don't see much more for them beyond what they are doing now. Give them a few more months of being goofs before they fight over a Diva or something. Hell, have it be Vickie Guerrero. Heath Slater and Vickie Guerrero paired together would be a heat machine. Turn McIntyre face in light of everything, have him go over Slater a few times, and then have Slater beat Mahal to get some heat back. Or perhaps even have Slater & Mahal hold try-outs for a new band member. They can beat down guys that don't fit their mold.

Alex Riley is one of those guys that could be released tomorrow, but could also be repackaged and pushed to the moon just as easily. If the WWE re-signed John Morrison, I really wouldn't mind a heel turn for The Miz, a re-pairing of the two, and Alex Riley to join them as an extra hand.

Christian is so fucking good, but as a face he gets to show no personality. Also, it doesn't make sense when he switches from being a CLB to a heroic underdog. The WWE had the chance to give him an underdog face push in 2011, but decided that they wanted wormy Christian. Then Daniel Bryan did wormy tiny heel champ well in 2012, so Christian was brought back as a face. It seems like they've got no real idea as to what to do with Christian.

I'd personally enjoy Christian winning the World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Ladder Match later in the year, and the WWE doing a storyline where he's technically a face, but everyone thinks he'll cash his title shot in like a CLB, because they don't think he's got the "right stuff" to be a champion. You can either go with Christian proving them right and being a sneak who cashes in Edge-style, or you can have him challenge heroically, and either win or lose and go off the deep end.

Also, I remember wishing at SummerSlam 2011 that Kevin Nash would return as Diesel and help Christian retain in his No Disqualification Match against Randy Orton. At Night of Champions, Christian could have retained the World Heavyweight Title against some babyface and Orton could have beaten Diesel in a match without a title on the line -- setting up their big rivalry-ender in Hell in a Cell.

Christian could have been such a good heel champ. I still think he can, but I think he will return as a face. Christian beating Cesaro for the US Title and then feuding with Jack Swagger over it could be a good use for the guy.

Or so you think.

Somewhere out there, Shisen just crapped his pants.

That's pretty much textbook "no future."

I really liked Riley in NXT, he was like a jock bully from an 80s teen movie. Kind of like the dude in Karate Kid / Just One Of The Guys. Give him that gimmick!

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Also, while googling Alex Riley, I found a, er, bromance pic of him and The Miz. Eeesh!

I always liked the idea of pairing Riley with Swagger (back when Swagger was jobbing) as a pair of jock-like bullies with a heel J.R. as their "Coach".

Alex Riley has been getting a small push every time he's on TV lately. Usually into wall, often through a table.

Hey, what if Zack Ryder began wearing tights that said "NO FUTURE"? That could help him into a fresher gimmick.

Or maybe have Kofi Kingston do that because WWE apparently will FINALLY give him a heel run! I just hope they let Kingston be himself, as HHH wants to move away from 100% scripted promos.

Could Kofi pull off a heel turn? Maybe when he was Jamaican, now I'm not so sure.

Kofi Kingston could really pull off an angry African immigrant desperate to be a success really well. He would just stop smiling, and be more focused on winning matches than doing high-risk stunts. When he won the IC Title from The Miz on Main Event, he worked a much stricter "in your face" style that could work as heel offence for the guy.

In a bizarre way, I actually wouldn't mind it if Kofi Kingston and Dolph Ziggler joined forces, in the sense that Randy Orton and Edge joined forces for a while. They have pretty much spent their entire careers as rivals -- their familiarity with one another could breed effective team work. Also, having Big E. Langston as muscle could work for Kingston and add "weight" to his style. Down the track, he and Big E. could betray Dolph, thus turning Dolph face for a series of higher profile matches with his rival.

"What's the matter!?"

Kofi should come out with a spear and shield and call himself "Saba Simba Jr"

Why do they even bother dragging Alex Riley around the country if they never use him? Does he get Saturday Slam matches I don't know about?

Yeah, he’s also a 2-time World Heavyweight Champion. But let’s just sweep that under the rug. :roll:

Nah, he actually has a legit gripe.

No. No he doesn't. He's a mid carder.

Fuck. I hate agreeing with Gertner.

They gave him plenty of chances to "click" when he got his internet fanbase and he never did. The whole Jersey Shore gimmick is DOA now anyway. Evolve or die.

Is Ryder totally to blame for "blowing his chance"?

He was over, really over for a period. He won the US Title, was used as a pawn by Kane to get to Cena in a throwaway feud that went nowhere, was used by Eve, lost his title, written out of in-ring competition by a laughable "broken back" angle, miracously returned in a matter of weeks, was made a fool of on the biggest show of the year, never got any kind of vengeance on Kane or Eve and was brushed under the carpet whilst still very popular.

They didn't really give him all that much to work with tbf.

What could he have done differently, given the restraints of the booking?

Yeah, Ryder wasn't really at fault there. He was actually really over for a time. If they went another way with the booking, he could have stayed a consistent midcard face.

Think he took the "fall" or blame for the poor RAW ratings after TLC 2011 although didn't get "The Miz" treatment where if he took the sole blame willingly, he'd be rewarded in the future.

Looking back, it would have been a lot better to keep the Ziggler-Ryder feud going on for a bit longer instead of pairing him up with Cena for the Kane feud since it did nothing for him.

Zack Ryder's mic work is horrendous. I haven't "believed" a word he's said on TV. Maybe it's just because of the character and he'd be more capable otherwise, but I'm glad he's not a focal point right now.

The whole 'siiiiiiick bro' promo style is annoying, we've all met dickheads like that in real life, it's off-putting.

Triple H got thrown in pig shit.

Triple H is also Triple H. He could go through hell and come out smelling like a fucking rose. Ryder's perfectly capable of being a midcard face, but WWE dropped the ball. Dude's got a legit reason to bitch. His fall wasn't his fault, it was bad booking and lack of creativity in the writing team.

He was in multiple marquee angles, had an entire RAW built around him and a legit A-list actor, won a championship, and he didn't stick. If he had legitimately gotten over with an audience other than the IWC he'd be on TV more. Instead, we saw how shallow his gimmick, his talents, and his fanbase really were.

People still buy his gear and chant we want Ryder on occasion what the hell are you talking about? He could still be where he was if WWE hadn't lost interest. The fans never stopped liking Ryder, management did.

WWE just weren't content with having a solid midcard guy. He didn't push through to the main event so they dropped him like they have so many others. WWE today is all about "You're either main event or you're not worth our time".

Santino is a good example of that too. The guy is crazy talented and has gotten ridiculous responses when teased as a main eventer. He isn't a main eventer in his current gimmick but could be amazing in a midcard role that doesn't make him a random jobber.

Despite obviously being much better than Ryder, HHH was also a heel when he got thrown in pig shit. Nobody's going to want to cheer a guy who is consistently made to look like a little bitch and never get the upper hand. It was bad booking / was never intended to get Ryder over. He could have been a servicable midcard babyface if they hadn't completely drowned him in proverbial pig shit week after week and then just to drive the point home they had Eve kick him in the dick at Wrestlemania.

I just don't see how Ryder has been screwed. I haven't Ryder chants in months. He got TV time and was all over the place and he didn't stick. Not WWE's fault that his cult following didn't translate over the long term.

Find one instance throughout the title feud with Orton where he was made to look good, strong or the equal of Orton. I'm as big a fan of Christian as anyone but even his title runs were done horribly and the fact that he has not had direction or character development in a year and a half is pretty solid evidence towards the validity of my original point.

JTG needs to get pushed.

And only 4 years later he was WWF Champion.

After his buddy Shawn got him involved in one of the hottest properties of the era (DX) and then he was consistently booked in the Midcard going toe-to-toe and often besting the likes of Ken Shamrock, Owen Hart, The Rock, etc.

That followed by a lot of booking support - and of course talent - led HHH to the top (we'll ignore the nepotism involved too as we've covered that. A lot.)

I'm not saying Ryder is the next icon. I'm not even saying it's not his fault he's where he is. I'm asking if YOU would attribute any of his failure to the way he was used. I know now that you wouldn't.

The "he got a shot and didn't take it" argument is stupid. Want an example of a guy that was thrown out there with a shit gimmick/shit booking/etc? Whatever happened to that Issac Yankem guy?

Ryder was over, you'd be stupid to argue that. Not just with the IWC/YouTube guys, he was legit over with entire crowds chanting for him (something the face of the company hasn't managed for years now). It just seems to me that beyond a token US Title win WWE did little to support the character. Is he amazing in the ring? No, he's servicable. Is he great on the mic? No, but he's decent enough. Is he Main Event material? Jesus, no. But he could be a VERY useful hand in the middle of the card. For example, a 2 month feud with Damian Sandow would have made for good TV and would have helped get Sandow over.

Some of those guys will NEVER make it on their own, but have potential with teams, like Heath Slater has shown us in his days with Justin Gabriel.

Zack Ryder has midcard potential, but his inflexibility with the writing team will have him out of the door eventually- we have seen this entrance-less jobber trend too often to ignore, but a team with Riley would work for him.

Otunga is good with backstage and manager-esque roles ontop of half-decent ring skills. He is greatly under-used.

JTG only has a chance with an angle involving the Prime Time Players- and nothing else really but as a fifth wheel.

Drew, in my opinion, is being treated the most unfairly as he has the it-factor with the right angle. The rocker gimmick works for him more than it does the others in 3MB, and if he goes solo, it could be altered for something promising.

After Rey retires, Sin Cara and Yoshi Tatsu should make a formidable international masked tag-team, since we are yet to see a light or cruiserweight title return.

Jinder Mahal... yeah... having trouble finding a place for that one.

And why exactly are there divas on the list? You know when you come to work for WWE and you don't have a penis, your future is pretty murky.

I miss Cryme Tyme.

They really should bring back Shad and re-unite the team. Tag division saved!

Maybe they can finally get their tag title shot.

BROOKLY BROOKLYN!!! Whacha gonna do! We're bringin the hood to you!

McIntyre had his shot. He was endorsed on TV by Vincent Kennedy McMahon himself and he didn't stick. Fuck him.

Or, given that the guy is clearly talented, give him something more substantial to do. An allegiance with Regal in a mentor/tutor setup that sometimes tag together would be my first scenario. Failing that, team him with JTG and call him M.C. Intyre.

...or maybe he is nothing more than a solid ring hand who will help others look good. It isn't like he isn't making good money to do what he is doing.

Or go to Vince and say "I think I can get over this way. Either we do this or I'm leaving." Don't sit there and bitch and moan. Not everybody can be a huge star. Just because you are a good wrestler doesn't mean you will achieve the level of success you have always dreamed of. 2nd string quarterbacks are good football players, but they are what they are.

If I don't like my current position in a company and think I can do more and be more, I talk to my supervisors. If it can't/won't be done, then I go to another company.

I agree with your points. All Ryder needed was the right type of year-long feud with the debut of his Long Island Iced Z gimmick, and that would have given additional purpose to his gimmick. But without such intense feuds, most fans are very limited in how much emotion they will put forth towards a new or repackaged character.

If WWE Creative had cared, then they could have written a several-month feud for Ryder for when he returned from injuries around last August, and if they did, then Vince applied the brakes.

He had a dramatic chase for the U.S. Championship and won it on PPV. At the end of the day, most people will never give fuck about Ryder because he isn't good enough for them to. He is average in the ring and below-average on the mic.

He had Cena and Punk putting him over constantly. It still wasn't enough.

Zack Ryder is a very likeable guy, but he isn't a big time superstar. He had months where he was "hot" and then it faded. Flash in the pan.

You make valid arguments. My only gripe was his feud with Ziggler for the U.S. Title was cut short, as Ryder never received a rematch.

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Zach Ryder had his shot here and he failed. Daniel Bryan had a hot streak until it faded. He evolved and found a way to become truly established.

The best Zack Ryder could come up with when CM Punk gave him the mic is that?!?! Writers or no writers, he had a chance their to change his perception of goofball comedy midcarder. He didn't.

I have to stop identifying emotionally with Ryder, because caring for a lost cause only brings disappointment. :)

I'll still respect him for what he's tried and for his handful of accomplishments, e.g. going to WWE in the first place, but won't advocate any longer. It was a fun experiment but ultimately not something I envision myself doing any longer.

I agree with Turd

Why thank you, Shisen!

I emailed Zack at the email longislandicedz@gmail.com to show him my over-long post about post-WrestleMania ideas, but he did not write back. So right there, he lost a little of my support. :roll:

Fuck him then! WWE should get rid of him.