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Kris P Lettus 03-29-2013 07:06 PM

Sonnen vs Jones
 
http://www.ufc.com/event/UFC159#/fight

So close but so far away..

Jones vs Sonnen
Bisping vs Belchar
Kongo vs Country
Davis vs Vinny

Also appearances by "Slobberknocker" Gracia and "The Human Suplex Machine" Khabilov..

cant wait

Impact! 03-30-2013 09:03 AM

Sick card.

Next Big Thing 03-30-2013 09:11 AM

Sara McMann is on the undercard too. Glad to see women other than Rousey included on these cards.

Kris P Lettus 03-30-2013 01:51 PM

womens fight on here and the tuf finale

Road Warrior 03-31-2013 08:03 PM

good card, Hotplate vs. Healy should be good also.

MoFo 03-31-2013 09:16 PM

Garcia vs McKenzie in a loser leaves town match live on Facebook.

Bisping and Belcher are pissing me off with these dumb betson Twitta. Like Alan Belcher can afford to give away a Bentley :lol: :lol:

Kris P Lettus 03-31-2013 09:41 PM

nah his buddy who plays in the nfl offered to give it away

Kris P Lettus 04-13-2013 08:38 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>My wife just said to me after seeing the 159 commercial: "Chael Sonnen is fighting Jon Jones? How did he get that? I'm confused."</p>&mdash; Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/323231223407325184">April 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Kris P Lettus 04-14-2013 12:55 AM

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j7jzk5jHjT...xM/s1600/1.gif

Kris P Lettus 04-14-2013 12:55 AM

http://oi48.tinypic.com/hrj59d.jpg

Kris P Lettus 04-22-2013 07:10 PM

days away from the biggest fight of the year and you guys aren't posting at all

fuck

:wavesad:

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-22-2013 07:14 PM

I've sworn not to post in another one of your threads until you spell Alan Belcher's name correctly.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 04-22-2013 07:15 PM

Oops.

Next Big Thing 04-22-2013 07:15 PM

Honestly, this card doesn't intrigue me. Sonnen doesn't belong in there with Jones and it will be proven when JBJ smashes him. I don't see Bisping or Belcher as legitimate threats to challenge Silva or even Weidman for the title and Nelson seems relegated to HW midcarder probably due to beef with Dana.

I'll tune in because a talent like Jones doesn't come around often and it's a privilege to see him the same way it's a privilege to get to watch GSP or Silva and, aside from the main event, the fights should be good, but I'm not really excited for this card.

Kris P Lettus 04-22-2013 07:26 PM

how do you see the main event playing out??

Next Big Thing 04-23-2013 07:50 AM

Jones via TKO in the 2nd or 3rd round.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-23-2013 08:29 PM

So, If Jones wins then he becomes Chael Sonnen right? Since he'd be called the greatest fighter in the world and Chael said being the greatest fighter in the world means you're Chael Sonner.

Kris P Lettus 04-24-2013 05:39 AM

stfu

Innovator 04-24-2013 07:21 AM

The Steve Austin podcast was fantastic with Chael, totally dropped his shtick and spoke honestly.

owenbrown 04-24-2013 09:12 AM

until he went back on Dan Le Batard is Highly Questionable again

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MoFo 04-24-2013 05:53 PM

Just wqtched countdown show, did not believe Pat Healy had beat Condit so had to check his Wiki. Beat Hardy and Daley too, fought a lot of top names. Still think Miller is way too good for him though.

Love Belcher but him and Bisping are absolute bellends. Hoping for a violent KO, so obviously Bisping ain't gonna deliver on that one.

Disappointed that Chael hasn't been in too many interviews considering it's just a few days away. Only shit I've heard from him he's just recycled his Anderson insults and inserted Jones name.

MoFo 04-24-2013 05:55 PM

Phil Davis is a cockjuggling thundercunt and I hope Vinny Maganana.scshsgwv strangles the nerd

owenbrown 04-24-2013 05:59 PM

don't all his insults usually happen on Le Batard's show anyway?

Crimson 04-24-2013 08:23 PM

I haven't heard Chael use the same insults on Bones than when he did on Silva.

His insults are usually anytime he gets interviewed not only with LeBatard

Kris P Lettus 04-24-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owenbrown (Post 4189299)
don't all his insults usually happen on Le Batard's show anyway?

tyes

the only time he has ever talked shit was the two 5 minute interviews he's done with Dan Le Batard

Kris P Lettus 04-25-2013 06:31 AM

countdown

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2013 10:56 AM

http://i.imgur.com/PrvMGXn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gqRtGeK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SsGkVJZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ct9V2Hu.jpg

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Next Big Thing 04-26-2013 11:40 AM

Chael or whoever gave him the ideas for those is amazing.

Moonax 04-26-2013 12:25 PM

It was good to see him called on the race baiting but frustrating to see him allowed to get off the hook so easily.

I found it amusing to see him fall back on 'I have a degree in sociology' and then ignore the fact that what he had done was to conflate nationality, ethnicity and race together with him comments about Silva.

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2013 01:17 PM

http://www.cagewall.com/wp-content/u...159-poster.jpg

Next Big Thing 04-26-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

http://middleeasy.com/images/2013/zeus/02/mma-fans.jpg

http://middleeasy.com/images/stories...pmmafans/7.jpg

http://middleeasy.com/images/stories...s/poster-1.jpg

We get it. You want to take a modern MMA fight and create a poster that embodies the vintage look of old boxing posters. Alright, so you take two fighters, remove the color, throw in a paper texture overlay and then place two red slanted rectangles at the bottom. Actually, the jokes on you. Vintage fight posters never looked like that. They looked more like this, and I don't see any of you running out to make bland, turn-of-the-century boxing posters that were heavy on awkwardly placed text.

The truth is the look above is actually a modern creation that has been replicated endlessly; through heavyweight boxing posters, posters of Survivor cast members fighting, AM talk-show sports radio guys, 2012 presidential election posters, Star Wars battles -- heck, even old heavyweight boxing posters have been modernized to give it a vintage look, wrap your head around that simulacrum.

MMA doesn't need the same overused aesthetic. We've just overcome the entire skull/angel wing/tribal design thing a couple years ago. There's no more room for lazy design -- the MMA world is literally overflowing with creativity and innovation. Let's embrace it.
http://middleeasy.com/index.php?opti...mma-fans-would

Love Middleeasy :lol:

Kris P Lettus 04-26-2013 01:46 PM

I like the "classic" looking posters..

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 07:49 AM

I had a dream that Sonnen pulled off the upset with GNP in fourth round and he became this huge star and the rematch did Wrestlemania numbers. I do not remember who won that rematch, however.

So there you go, Sonnen will pull the upset according to my rum&coke/ Jager shots induced dream.

MoFo 04-27-2013 10:16 AM

lol @ Sonnen saying he's earning $10m for this fight when Fitch got cut for earning too much at $60k

I know Sonnen brings way more to the table but still, lol

Krimzon7 04-27-2013 02:26 PM

MOFO you never question Chael

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 08:46 PM

Sara McMann could give Rousey one hell of a fight. Plus, two female Olympians squaring off would create all sorts of media buzz.

CSL 04-27-2013 09:34 PM

wow 2 straight fights stopped for "technical" reasons, don't see that every day

Vietnamese Crippler 04-27-2013 09:36 PM

At least the second one was more legit.

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 09:37 PM

Kris P will be posting a pic of that thumb.

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 09:40 PM

I'm loving Chael and Bisping's antics on this card.

Krimzon7 04-27-2013 09:59 PM

Kris P will be posting all types of Gifs in 30 seconds...

Krimzon7 04-27-2013 10:01 PM

Here we motherfucking GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

#warchael

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 10:02 PM

I'm cheering for Chael on the low too. Unfortunately, I don't see that fight ending any other way than him getting smashed out.

Krimzon7 04-27-2013 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4191482)
I'm cheering for Chael on the low too. Unfortunately, I don't see that fight ending any other way than him getting smashed out.

:'(

I believe....

Road Warrior 04-27-2013 10:07 PM

Let's GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Road Warrior 04-27-2013 10:15 PM

let's go hot plate

Krimzon7 04-27-2013 10:21 PM

Dude's nose looks broken

Road Warrior 04-27-2013 10:33 PM

damn

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 10:34 PM

Way to make Healy feel welcome Bruce Buffer.

Reavant 04-27-2013 10:35 PM

anyone have a stream link that they would be willing to share????

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 10:36 PM

This night does feel cursed. Between the two awkward finishes in the prelims to Buffer's screwup. The ingredients are there for something crazy to go down.

VSG 04-27-2013 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 4191500)
anyone have a stream link that they would be willing to share????

Check your rep

Next Big Thing 04-27-2013 11:18 PM

God damn Roy Nelson!

owenbrown 04-27-2013 11:19 PM

fuck just tuned in late but holy shit Big Country

Krimzon7 04-27-2013 11:53 PM

fucks sake at Alan Belcher's eye

Krimzon7 04-27-2013 11:57 PM

nothing says ignorant like Swizz Beats and Wacka Flacka Flame sitting in the audience.

Ashamed I know who they are.

CSL 04-27-2013 11:58 PM

Bisssssss-piiiiiiiing

Krimzon7 04-28-2013 12:02 AM

The Rashad Evans stuff aside...I just can not like Jon Jones.

#kaboom

Krimzon7 04-28-2013 12:03 AM

LOL He looks like Rocky

owenbrown 04-28-2013 12:17 AM

thanks for coming, Chael :wave: Dan LeBatard is probably :rofl: right now

Skippord 04-28-2013 12:18 AM

so does Chael Sonnen actually think he'll win these fights or is he just like a WWE heel?

owenbrown 04-28-2013 12:19 AM

holy shit @ Jon Jones foot

Road Warrior 04-28-2013 12:21 AM

Laughable, the UFC should be ashamed for putting on such an embarrassing main event, but then again they usually do.

The Snake 04-28-2013 12:21 AM

kind of mad they stopped it so fast. Jones was going to win, but Chael was defending and he's a tough guy. Let it go a little longer, it's the main event.
edit: after that interview, pretty sure that was Sonnen's retirement fight.

Krimzon7 04-28-2013 12:24 AM

Man, That sucks for Chael. He has probably fought his last fight.

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 12:30 AM

i have seen like 80% of all ufc events and tonight was by far the weirdest

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 12:30 AM

chael is not done

mark my words

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 12:32 AM

roy nelson has to fight the winner of JDS/Hunt

Road Warrior 04-28-2013 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 4191573)
chael is not done

mark my words

I will mark your words.....yes he is. Unless the convince him to cut to 170 so they can give him a shot at GSP.

Road Warrior 04-28-2013 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 4191574)
roy nelson has to fight the winner of JDS/Hunt

Why ? He still hasn't beaten a top 10 heavyweight

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 12:43 AM

lol ufc doesn't have 10 hw's

Road Warrior 04-28-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 4191591)
lol ufc doesn't have 10 hw's

?

What Would Kevin Do? 04-28-2013 12:47 AM

If Jones can do that to Sonnen, in regards to taking him down, etc, I wonder what he could do to Silva.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-28-2013 12:49 AM

Actually, I take that back, two entirely different styles of take down. Chael usually did the power double to Silva, and Jones took Chael down from clinches mainly... Silva would probably murder Jones in a clinch.

The Snake 04-28-2013 12:49 AM

listening to the post fight commentary. People would have flipped out if he'd stuck out the last 20 seconds of that beating and won on Jones's broken toe.

Road Warrior 04-28-2013 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What Would Kevin Do? (Post 4191595)
Actually, I take that back, two entirely different styles of take down. Chael usually did the power double to Silva, and Jones took Chael down from clinches mainly... Silva would probably murder Jones in a clinch.

Silva has no chance. Every time they've even mentioned Jones to Silva he changes the subject immediately.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-28-2013 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Snake (Post 4191596)
listening to the post fight commentary. People would have flipped out if he'd stuck out the last 20 seconds of that beating and won on Jones's broken toe.

THere would have basically been an instant rematch... probably for free on Fox.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-28-2013 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road Warrior (Post 4191597)
Silva has no chance. Every time they've even mentioned Jones to Silva he changes the subject immediately.

Eh, ya never know. I think that fight is way more likely than GSP vs Silva at least.

All I'm saying is this. Chael had Jones in a decent muay thai clinch. I think if it would have been Silva, Silva could have done a lot more damage with his knees. I also don't think Jones could take Silva down the same way, because fighting in close with Sonnen, and fighting in close with Silva, are two very different things.

What Would Kevin Do? 04-28-2013 01:01 AM


owenbrown 04-28-2013 01:04 AM

oh holy shit

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Road Warrior (Post 4191592)
?

Mark Hunt is getting a shot at JDS after KO'ing Struve. I'm saying there are not alot of legit HW's in the UFC. Nelson has 6 wins in the octagon all by KO/TKO and has only lost decisions, all to former champs, and other than Cain, he is the only person to take JDS the distance.

HEAVYWEIGHT
Champion : Cain Velasquez
1 Junior dos Santos
2 Daniel Cormier
3 Fabricio Werdum
4 Antonio Silva
5 Alistair Overeem
6 Roy Nelson
7 Frank Mir
8 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
9 Mark Hunt
10 Travis Browne

Cain/Bigfoot, Werdum/Big Nog, JDS/Hunt, are all already happening and Mir is done.. DC will be dropping down unless they give him Overeem, when he comes back.. The only fight left for him is Browne, which would be a good fight and I guess could propel either into the upper echelon, but I think Roy is ready now..

They could match him up with Overeem upon his return, which could also work IMO..

The options are very limited at HW..

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 09:05 AM

p.s. these ranking are from 4/22 also, so it wouldn't surprise me if Nelson jumps Overeem in the rankings after last night..

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 09:16 AM

With Jones looking like he'll be out for an extended time, I'm guessing we'll have Gus/Machida for the number one contender spot..

Next Big Thing 04-28-2013 09:28 AM

Chael needs to go into commentary. If the UFC doesn't put him in the booth it would be a shame. I'm not talking about the version of Sonnen we see before fights, I'm talking about the version of Sonnen we saw on TUF.

Jones is a beast. It's amazing getting to watch guys like Jones, Silva and GSP. These are the greats we'll be talking about 20 years from now.

Next Big Thing 04-28-2013 09:29 AM

I wonder if the UFC will do anything to change the gloves?

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 09:31 AM

indeed

As far as the LW's go, I'd say lets see Healy get a rematch with Thompson.. Or him vs Melendez..

As far as Miller, it's really hard to say.. Maybe rematch him with Lauzon (amazing fight) or match him up with a striker like Cowboy, cause it seems subs have been Jim's downfall as of late..

Next Big Thing 04-28-2013 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 4191675)
Mark Hunt is getting a shot at JDS after KO'ing Struve. I'm saying there are not alot of legit HW's in the UFC. Nelson has 6 wins in the octagon all by KO/TKO and has only lost decisions, all to former champs, and other than Cain, he is the only person to take JDS the distance.

HEAVYWEIGHT
Champion : Cain Velasquez
1 Junior dos Santos
2 Daniel Cormier
3 Fabricio Werdum
4 Antonio Silva
5 Alistair Overeem
6 Roy Nelson
7 Frank Mir
8 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
9 Mark Hunt
10 Travis Browne

Cain/Bigfoot, Werdum/Big Nog, JDS/Hunt, are all already happening and Mir is done.. DC will be dropping down unless they give him Overeem, when he comes back.. The only fight left for him is Browne, which would be a good fight and I guess could propel either into the upper echelon, but I think Roy is ready now..

They could match him up with Overeem upon his return, which could also work IMO..

The options are very limited at HW..

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hey @<a href="https://twitter.com/danawhite">danawhite</a> ur right I think Roy nelson and I would be a damn good fight. How about it @<a href="https://twitter.com/roynelsonmma">roynelsonmma</a></p>&mdash; Daniel Cormier (@dc_mma) <a href="https://twitter.com/dc_mma/status/328378706890485761">April 28, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Make it happen Dana.

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4191682)
I wonder if the UFC will do anything to change the gloves?

Personally, I think the refs should nip it in the bud as soon as guys start extending the fingers towards the face..

Watch the first Kevin Burns/Rumble Johnson fight.. Burns uses open handed left hand strikes and literally poked Rumble in the eye three times before they stopped it.. Should have had a point deducted for the second.. I know it will happen specially when guys are trying to push off or stuff a shot but I don't think the gloves should be changed, I thinks it's the officiating..

On that topic, Kevin Mullhol should never be allowed anywhere near an mma event again.. Horrible job by him all night, first with the early stoppage, then with Belcher's ankle wraps.. As Rogan said, it makes you appreciate guys like Big John and Dean..

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 09:39 AM

That'd be a huge step down for DC.. He should fight Reem or drop down to lhw..

Next Big Thing 04-28-2013 09:47 AM

I don't see how that would be a huge step down at all. Those rankings are a stupid measure to go by and Dana has said he won't even follow them. The UFC match making has always put winners against winners and losers against losers. Nelson is closer to a title shot than Overeem, plus, I'm pretty sure Big Foot Silva was a huge step down for Overeem according to those rankings and look where that got him.

I think it would be a lot more competitive than Overeem who we know lacks a chin and would probably roll over and die if pressured by Cormier's wrestling.

Next Big Thing 04-28-2013 09:50 AM

Orrrr... Cormier could drop down to LHW. With Jones out for awhile, would Cormier/Machida for the #1 contender spot be a fair move?

Next Big Thing 04-28-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 4191572)
i have seen like 80% of all ufc events and tonight was by far the weirdest

There was some bad reffing. Cringe worthy shit.

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4191691)
Orrrr... Cormier could drop down to LHW. With Jones out for awhile, would Cormier/Machida for the #1 contender spot be a fair move?

Think it'll be Gus/Machida..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4191693)
There was some bad reffing. Cringe worthy shit.

The reffing, buffer fucking up, the injuries, etc.. The only way it would have been weirder, was if Sonnen had made it out of the 1st and they had awarded him the win do to Jones' toe..

whiteyford 04-28-2013 10:13 AM

Can titles change due to injuries? #iwatchwrestling

MoFo 04-28-2013 10:18 AM

Belcher is a prick man, froze yet again in a big fight. Guy is so good but only shows it against the jobbers.

This event just pissed me off. Glad Nelson won but ugh at everything else.

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4191705)
Can titles change due to injuries? #iwatchwrestling

Don't think so..

Sonnen would have won the fight via "no contest, doctor's stoppage" but shouldn't have gotten the strap..

The only injury like this in a title fight I can remember was Patrick Cote tearing his ACL against Silva but he was the challenger, not the champ..

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 4191708)
Belcher is a prick man, froze yet again in a big fight. Guy is so good but only shows it against the jobbers.

This event just pissed me off. Glad Nelson won but ugh at everything else.

wtf are you talking about

Belchar got wrestlefucked by Okami, what other big fights has he froze up in??

His last "real" loss was over 5 years ago.. I know he "lost" to Sexyama but anyone who actually watched that fight would disagree..

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 10:34 AM

I was very impressed with Pat Healy..

Next Big Thing 04-28-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kris P Lettus (Post 4191714)
Don't think so..

Sonnen would have won the fight via "no contest, doctor's stoppage" but shouldn't have gotten the strap..

The only injury like this in a title fight I can remember was Patrick Cote tearing his ACL against Silva but he was the challenger, not the champ..

I dunno. There was that fight on the prelims that got stopped b/c the guy got slammed and broke his thumb and the opponent was awarded the victor via doctor's stoppage.

I think it would have depended on the cause of the injury. If it was due to a hole in the canvas like Jones said, I think it would be a no contest, but if it was incurred as a result of the action and Jones wasn't able to continue, I think Sonnen would have gotten the W.

Kris P Lettus 04-28-2013 11:43 AM

Sonnen would have gotten the win, not the title..

The "hole" in the canvas fractured the toe, then a freakish accident cause it to pop off..


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