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Curtis 06-05-2013 01:21 PM

I realize and recognize that I lost interest in WWE when the new generation arrived
 
I havent watched WWE for a few months now. I look at spoilers to see if I want to watch the show and as soon as I see names like Daniel Bryan or CM Punk or The Miz or anyone else of this era I go "meh same old". I just havent been excited for wrestling with these new guys.

Anyone else or is everyone else creaming they pants over these new guys?

loopydate 06-05-2013 03:22 PM

How are "new guys" "meh same old?"

Anybody Thrilla 06-05-2013 03:44 PM

Why are the only two options for interest 'complete disinterest' and 'ejaculation'? Is this a troll thread? It feels like a troll thread. Prove me wrong, please.

Chavo Classic 06-05-2013 05:07 PM

Even after 7 years, CM Punk is a 'new' guy. :shifty:

The Snake 06-05-2013 09:31 PM

I feel like WWE suffered some from all the people they let go because of policy issues, budget cuts, etc.

I was watching some PPV's the other day from like 4-5 years ago. And so many guys they were working to put over are long gone. I didn't even realize it until kind of going back through these old vids. Some guys I was into before:
Shelton Benjamin, Jim Morrison, MVP, Mr. Kennedy etc

Those guys all got a lot of tv team and then were let go. They lost their transition class and now we're kind of stuck with the best of who's left.

I enjoy some of them. Daniel Bryan is good. But most of the people fighting for titles right now are a notch below some of the guys they were grooming not so long ago.

#1-norm-fan 06-05-2013 09:46 PM

Because they had personalities.

At least in most cases. I'd love to have MVP, Kennedy and Carlito back.

Morrison wasn't exactly oozing personality but I still prefer him to most of the newer guys who all blend in with each other.

Kane Knight 06-05-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4218564)
Why are the only two options for interest 'complete disinterest' and 'ejaculation'? Is this a troll thread? It feels like a troll thread. Prove me wrong, please.

Curtis has been such a serious poster until now. I refuse to believe that he would be less than sincere.

Bad News Gertner 06-05-2013 11:15 PM

AT, stop being racist. Curtis brings up a good point like usual.

Curd 06-06-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4218746)
Because they had personalities.

At least in most cases. I'd love to have MVP, Kennedy and Carlito back.

Morrison wasn't exactly oozing personality but I still prefer him to most of the newer guys who all blend in with each other.

My favorite John Morrison promo was when he was comparing Miz to Marty Jannetty and calling him "Mizzy Jannetty" with a really obnoxious, heelish whine (although Miz was supposed to be the heel, not Morrison). What's yours?

Curtis 06-06-2013 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4218564)
Prove me wrong, please.

http://i40.tinypic.com/5vbpew.jpg



U wrong Esse!

Lock Jaw 06-06-2013 01:01 AM

BAM!

ABT just got...

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...TpQlvzs_iiceUZ
SCIENCE'D

Mr. Nerfect 06-06-2013 01:09 AM

John Morrison's personality was meant to be heel. When he turned face he pretty much oozed mid-card, although there was a period where he was stealing the show constantly. It was 2011, I think, where it seemed pretty logical to have him in a few WWE Championship matches, but then his rivalry with R-Truth got canned.

I just said this in the 100,001 replies thread, but I'd love to see Morrison come back and reform his team with The Miz. As a singles face, Miz is pretty lost.

Curtis 06-06-2013 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4218871)
John Morrison's personality was meant to be heel. When he turned face he pretty much oozed mid-card, although there was a period where he was stealing the show constantly. It was 2011, I think, where it seemed pretty logical to have him in a few WWE Championship matches, but then his rivalry with R-Truth got canned.

I just said this in the 100,001 replies thread, but I'd love to see Morrison come back and reform his team with The Miz. As a singles face, Miz is pretty lost.

Morrisons problem was that he has -15 in mic skill stats. He sounds wooden and retarded on the mic. When he cuts a promo, it sounds like something a 4th grader memorized to recite in front of class.

Curtis 06-06-2013 01:12 AM

Also Morisson is too busy juggling his nuts in Melina's ass crack to come back to WWE

The Condor 06-06-2013 02:25 AM

The New Generation killed me too. Didn't watch much between 94-96

Bad News Gertner 06-06-2013 02:33 AM

ABT running away with his tail between his legs. Another victory for Team Gorm.

Anybody Thrilla 06-06-2013 04:53 AM

Running away to go to work. I was hoping I was wrong. As long as there's actual discussion, thread stays. No problem here.

Shisen Kopf 06-06-2013 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4218936)
The New Generation killed me too. Didn't watch much between 94-96

Thurman "sparky" plugg was awesome though. He drove a racecar.

voncouch 06-06-2013 10:36 AM

http://fr.academic.ru/pictures/frwik...Logo_94-98.png

Kane Knight 06-06-2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voncouch (Post 4219076)

Get the "f" out!

DAMN iNATOR 06-09-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chavo Classic (Post 4218599)
Even after 7 years, CM Punk is a 'new' guy. :shifty:

He appeared @ WM 22 as a "mobster" or a chauffeur or something, but I don't think he officially debuted until sometime in 2007, IIRC.

James Steele 06-09-2013 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4221157)
He appeared @ WM 22 as a "mobster" or a chauffeur or something, but I don't think he officially debuted until sometime in 2007, IIRC.

He debuted in on July 4, 2006 as a part of the relaunched ECW.

Kane Knight 06-09-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chavo Classic (Post 4218599)
Even after 7 years, CM Punk is a 'new' guy. :shifty:

To be fair, CM Punk still represents the "new guard" of things, so I can see calling him a "new guy." What surprises me is the fact that he's still employed with the company since he's been in the doghouse for 7 years.

Nark Order 06-09-2013 10:38 PM

If Curtis was even remotely intelligent, he would be pulling this troll thing off.

Nark Order 06-09-2013 10:40 PM

Gertner, I've been wondering. Can you describe the feeling you get when you get negative attention? Does it make you "high" or something? Why do you feel like you need it?

Nark Order 06-09-2013 10:46 PM

I want to take all humor and all non-sense out and just have a real conversation about the mental state of people that troll. I just really need to find out why these needs need to be fulfilled in certain people. It most definitely spawns back to childhood but I want to pinpoint it.

And no, under no circumstances will I ever accept "I just do it for fun, there's nothing wrong with me." Because it isn't true. If we find out what's wrong, we can help other people. Be selfless.

Lock Jaw 06-09-2013 10:52 PM

Narc on his way to becoming the world's first Troll Psychiatrist.

Nark Order 06-09-2013 11:11 PM

And don't you forget it.

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 03:35 AM

Lol, Narc. Awesome.

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 03:36 AM

Gertner is actually right about a fair bit. I do think he takes things to a troll extreme when it comes to some IWC favourites, however. I think that, secretly, Gertner sees the value in Daniel Bryan.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4221368)
Gertner, I've been wondering. Can you describe the feeling you get when you get negative attention? Does it make you "high" or something? Why do you feel like you need it?

I have a chuckle and move on to something else. That's about it.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4222930)
Gertner is actually right about a fair bit. I do think he takes things to a troll extreme when it comes to some IWC favourites, however. I think that, secretly, Gertner sees the value in Daniel Bryan.

I've stated numerous times that I see the value in Daniel Bryan. Just because I don't agree with a point doesn't mean I'm trolling.

Sometimes I just do stuff to annoy, which you can generally pick out 95% of the time

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 03:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4221373)
I want to take all humor and all non-sense out and just have a real conversation about the mental state of people that troll. I just really need to find out why these needs need to be fulfilled in certain people. It most definitely spawns back to childhood but I want to pinpoint it.

And no, under no circumstances will I ever accept "I just do it for fun, there's nothing wrong with me." Because it isn't true. If we find out what's wrong, we can help other people. Be selfless.

Honestly, Shisen and I just do things to make each other laugh. That's it. We both live normal lives. There's no "underlying trauma". Just for amusement. I post mainly at night on my midnight shift. Basically I get paid to troll.

Iginfest knows what's up.


#Gorm

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4222934)
Sometimes I just do stuff to annoy, which you can generally pick out 95% of the time

Isn't that trolling? :p

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 03:48 AM

Yes, but it's pretty obvious when I am. One off comments=trolling. Arguing a point=not trolling.

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 03:50 AM

Oh, yeah, I get when you are trolling. I hope your love for Heath Slater is sincere, however.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 03:52 AM

Lol Heath Slater is my fucking boy. He main evented Raw tonight.

Plus on Superstars this week


SPOILER: show
Heath Slater d Zack Ryder

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 04:13 AM

Yessssssss! Love Slater.

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 04:14 AM

Will Zack Ryder get a bit of a posse to go to war with 3MB? Santino Marella and Curt Hawkins aren't really doing anything. I'm not sure if the WWE even remembers that Hawkins & Ryder used to team, though. Might as well be Zack Ryder, Santino Marella & Justin Gabriel.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 04:25 AM

I'm SHOCKED that Ryder and Hawkins haven't been put back together by now.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 04:25 AM

As much as I love 3MB, Santino is above that.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 04:27 AM

Said it numerous times: Slater has that unique ability that he can lose every match and still get over because he's so obnoxious looking and sounding that people will watch to see him get beat up.

Shisen Kopf 06-11-2013 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4221373)
I want to take all humor and all non-sense out and just have a real conversation about the mental state of people that troll. I just really need to find out why these needs need to be fulfilled in certain people. It most definitely spawns back to childhood but I want to pinpoint it.

And no, under no circumstances will I ever accept "I just do it for fun, there's nothing wrong with me." Because it isn't true. If we find out what's wrong, we can help other people. Be selfless.

What's a troll?

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 09:13 AM

Gonna be interesting to see what Rock and Roll Buck Zumhofe has to say about all of this.

Nark Order 06-11-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4222937)
Honestly, Shisen and I just do things to make each other laugh. That's it. We both live normal lives. There's no "underlying trauma". Just for amusement. I post mainly at night on my midnight shift. Basically I get paid to troll.

Iginfest knows what's up.


#Gorm

You know, Gertner. For a master troll, you sure have a tough time identifying when you're being trolled. ;)

Gotta have my fun from time to time as well. I figure you're probably a normal dude but the "psychoanalyzation gimmick" seems to strike a nerve from time to time.

Kane Knight 06-11-2013 12:53 PM

Narc investigating the mindset of a troll is kind of like Michael Jackson investigating why the kids he hangs around with cry in their sleep.

Kane Knight 06-11-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4222955)
Lol Heath Slater is my fucking boy. He main evented Raw tonight.

Plus on Superstars this week


SPOILER: show
Heath Slater d Zack Ryder

Troll or no troll?

Shisen Kopf 06-11-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4223100)
You know, Gertner. For a master troll, you sure have a tough time identifying when you're being trolled. ;)

Gotta have my fun from time to time as well. I figure you're probably a normal dude but the "psychoanalyzation gimmick" seems to strike a nerve from time to time.

Again, what's a troll? I see that word get thrown around here all the time. So, in the form of a poem please elaborate as to what makes a troll. Thank you.

ron the dial 06-11-2013 02:43 PM

what makes a troll so?
it is the amount of gorm
that he possesses

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4222973)
As much as I love 3MB, Santino is above that.

Kind of don't know where Santino fits at the moment. I love the guy, but he seems sort of out of place. I'd like to see him in a real feud, I guess. I kind of think that him vs. Zeb Colter could be interesting. Obviously not with Colter always playing an in-ring role, but Colter spewing off about "I-talians" could keep him on television. He'd just need a heel to put in the ring with Santino while Swagger is injured.

Santino vs. Cesaro? I know you're not big on Cesaro, but Santino's personality makes up for two wrestlers. An Italian clown vs. a serious Swiss soldier would radiate mid-card, but that's fine. Maybe even have Cesaro bring back the European Championship, not as a sanctioned title, but as a mere prop for the feud?

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4222972)
I'm SHOCKED that Ryder and Hawkins haven't been put back together by now.

I'm with you on this. Hawkins has cut his hair and Ryder has switched back to similar ring attire to what Hawkins wears. The two basically look like a tag team that aren't teaming, but also happen to be a former team and were fucking champions together.

Would love to see a Ryder & Hawkins vs. Epico & Primo feud. I'm not sure how you feel about Epico & Primo, but I find Epico a solid talent and Primo one of the most underrated on the roster -- even at garnering reactions from crowds. For a guy who has had almost zero character development, he manages to get a few "Primo Sucks" chants going even after being a plucky babyface the week before.

There's a weird histroy between Zack Ryder and Primo, too. Ryder and Primo were once "Team DZP" together, and had very little success. Ryder also used to have a crush on Rosa Mendes, who is now in the corner of Epico & Primo. Neither team is really "heavy" enough to be a challenger to The Shield anytime soon, but seeing these guys fight on Superstars, Main Event and even SmackDown in a variety of matches could be entertaining and be surprisingly over.

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4222974)
Said it numerous times: Slater has that unique ability that he can lose every match and still get over because he's so obnoxious looking and sounding that people will watch to see him get beat up.

I agree with this as well. Slater works so well in the role he is in. Don't be a Slater Hater, babaaaaaaaay!

I was of the opinion a few months ago that Slater should never, ever turn babyface, but recently I've entertained the thought that one day, Slater's "gets his ass kicked but comes back for more" attitude could really make him an endearing babyface. A series of wins out of the blue a few years from now might actually get Slater really over.

Rollermacka 06-11-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4218936)
The New Generation killed me too. Didn't watch much between 94-96

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Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4223290)
I agree with this as well. Slater works so well in the role he is in. Don't be a Slater Hater, babaaaaaaaay!

I was of the opinion a few months ago that Slater should never, ever turn babyface, but recently I've entertained the thought that one day, Slater's "gets his ass kicked but comes back for more" attitude could really make him an endearing babyface. A series of wins out of the blue a few years from now might actually get Slater really over.

Slater's voice is pretty unbearable lol. He's perfect in where he is. I would like to see them go in deeper to the 3MB group and have them maybe do a concert on Raw and when they go to play, none of them can actually play so they sound terrible, but they think they're awesome. Kind of the whole "heels who think they are faces". Slater's run with the legends was something to look forward to every week even though you knew the end result because of the promo he'd cut and his facial expressions were funny as hell.

Bad News Gertner 06-11-2013 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4223284)
Kind of don't know where Santino fits at the moment. I love the guy, but he seems sort of out of place. I'd like to see him in a real feud, I guess. I kind of think that him vs. Zeb Colter could be interesting. Obviously not with Colter always playing an in-ring role, but Colter spewing off about "I-talians" could keep him on television. He'd just need a heel to put in the ring with Santino while Swagger is injured.

Santino vs. Cesaro? I know you're not big on Cesaro, but Santino's personality makes up for two wrestlers. An Italian clown vs. a serious Swiss soldier would radiate mid-card, but that's fine. Maybe even have Cesaro bring back the European Championship, not as a sanctioned title, but as a mere prop for the feud?

Here's my problem with Santino. Whoever he feuds with he drags down. Santino needs to be a heel, because as a face he just makes whatever heel he feuds with look weak and stupid. Cesaro would suffer the same thing and that has nothing to do with Cesaro and everything to do with Santino's current character. He doesn't improve the heel.

Mr. Nerfect 06-11-2013 10:25 PM

That makes sense. Santino's face character, while over, seems too fluky to ever mean anything if you beat him, and it makes you look foolish if you lose to him.

Bad News Gertner 06-12-2013 12:07 AM

Honestly, it's like feuding with Hornswoggle. You lose either way.

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2013 03:34 AM

Feuding with Hornswoggle, maybe; but I've always wanted to see a heel just midget toss him for heat.

Mr. Nerfect 06-12-2013 03:35 AM

Santino Marella turning heel by displaying his new "submission mastery" on Hornswoggle would make me laugh.

DAMN iNATOR 06-17-2013 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 4221285)
To be fair, CM Punk still represents the "new guard" of things, so I can see calling him a "new guy." What surprises me is the fact that he's still employed with the company since he's been in the doghouse for 7 years.

Yeah, you’ve sure got ol’ Vinnie Mac figured out now. In the doghouse for 7 years = 5 world title reigns, not to mention one of those was 434 consecutive days, a streak not seen in 25 years.

CSL 06-17-2013 02:27 PM

WOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Kane Knight 06-17-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4227277)
WOOOOOOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Stay in the back! It's like a hurricane coming at you!

Juan 06-17-2013 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4227275)
Yeah, you’ve sure got ol’ Vinnie Mac figured out now. In the doghouse for 7 years = 5 world title reigns, not to mention one of those was 434 consecutive days, a streak not seen in 25 years.

lollllllllllllllll

Jesus Christ you're a god damn idiot.

#1-norm-fan 06-17-2013 08:32 PM

... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... DAMN!

Corporate CockSnogger 06-17-2013 08:37 PM

Poor DAMN iNATOR really doesn't have a clue what's going on. Bless his little cotton socks.

XL 06-19-2013 07:46 AM

New rule: Anybody writing with sarcasm should write in orange.

screech 06-19-2013 08:14 AM

Kane Knight just got DAMN iNATED

Kane Knight 06-21-2013 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4228615)
New rule: Anybody writing with sarcasm should write in orange.

That's unfair.

Daminator may be colour blind and still miss it.


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