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Shadrick 06-20-2013 05:30 PM

Matt Striker released.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WWE.com
WWE.com has learned that WWE has chosen to not renew Matt Striker’s contract. As of today, June 20, 2013, Striker will no longer be working with WWE.
WWE wishes him the best in all his future endeavors.


Discuss.

CSL 06-20-2013 05:31 PM

oh well. He did well to stick around as long as he did.

Shadrick 06-20-2013 05:32 PM

"Cenas Free!"

"I'm markin out bro"

I can't help but feel that those two lines may have contributed. I was a fan of his too.

VSG 06-20-2013 06:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Was just informed by <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> that my contract will not be renewed. I am now available 4 appearances, signings seminars &amp; wrestling. Deep breath</p>&mdash; Matt Striker (@Matt_Striker_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Striker_/statuses/347822356623929345">June 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Thanks for all the support. To book plz email ForMattStriker@gmail.com <a href="https://twitter.com/WWE">@WWE</a> has your entertainment first in their mind. Support that product</p>&mdash; Matt Striker (@Matt_Striker_) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Striker_/statuses/347827922872176640">June 20, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Theo Dious 06-20-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4229246)
"Cenas Free!"

"I'm markin out bro"

I can't help but feel that those two lines may have contributed. I was a fan of his too.

Okay the most recent of those two lines is over 2 years old. They may have been contributors in his departure from the announce team, but if they were that upset about those lines he'd have been off TV a long time ago.

Also I'm pretty sure the "HOLY SHIT" at the Rumble was worse than "I'm markin' out bro."

Theo Dious 06-20-2013 06:23 PM

From those Tweets it's obvious that he wants to keep a good relationship with the company in case they want him back. In the meantime he should totally start his own web show about wrestling. He could easily become king of the internet that way.

Theo Dious 06-20-2013 06:25 PM

Also, thinking of Striker and that Rumble makes me remember this from when Bryan and Punk were the only 2 in the ring:

Striker: The Internet loves this match.
Cole: The Internet loves this, the Internet loves that - who cares about the stupid Internet!

Fast forward two years:

"Make sure to download the WWE mobile app, and now to see what's trending on Twitter right now we go to tonight's social media ambassador...

GD 06-20-2013 06:26 PM

Not be an asshole, but I have never liked Matt Striker as a commentator or in any interview segments. I do hope that he gets a job.

Emperor Smeat 06-20-2013 06:27 PM

Does that mean Renee Young becomes the sole/main backstage interview now? Don't know if they have anyone else.

She was gradually taking over his spot on the main shows and NXT.

Curtis 06-20-2013 06:28 PM

This is disgusting, Matt Striker was one of the best WWE commentators, tons better than that horrible piece of crap josh Matthews. Striker was funny smart and well spoken while Matthews is boring and so generic anyone can sit down and do it.

I hope Striker lands commentary in TNA!

Tazz : Who is this at our table mike?

Mike Tenay : This is former WWE legend, THE Matt Striker!

Tazz : Cowabunga dude! I am glad you joined us!

Matt Striker : Thank you gentlemen, now what do we have in store for us tonight on Impact?

Mike Tenay : AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM TNA PERESIDENT DIXIE CARTER!

Matt Striker : *kills himself*

erickman 06-20-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4229265)
Does that mean Renee Young becomes the sole/main backstage interview now? Don't know if they have anyone else.

She was gradually taking over his spot on the main shows and NXT.

last 2 weeks josh has done it wondered why he was off smackdown guess josh will go back to interviewing.

Malfeitor 06-20-2013 06:46 PM

This sucks. When Striker was on commentary it actually seemed like he cared about what was going on in the ring.

Savio 06-20-2013 06:50 PM

What is "Cenas free"?

ClockShot 06-20-2013 06:52 PM

Coach & Todd Grisham made out pretty good at ESPN. Maybe they'll put in a good word for him.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-20-2013 07:06 PM

I remember when Zack Ryder debuted his Jersey Shore gimmick on ECW, Striker made up some story about how the jobber he was facing was a fashion designer and he denied Zack access to his fashion show and Zack was mad at him. Thought that was the stupidest thing ever, but the fact that he tried it made me like him. Been a fan ever since.

Plus its cool when guys who grew up as fans get to live their dream. And you could always tell how "into" the show he always was. He loved his job. Hope he does well elsewhere.

Theo Dious 06-20-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4229277)
What is "Cenas free"?

Near the height of the Nexus angle Cena was forced to be special guest referee in a match between Orton and Barrett for the WWE title. If Barrett won, Cena would be free of being a member of the Nexus, if Orton won, he'd be fired. Orton won the match and Striker, who seemed to have forgotten the nature of the stipulation, gleefully cried "CENA'S FREE!" kind of shitting on the climax of the entire PPV.

Theo Dious 06-20-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 4229281)
I remember when Zack Ryder debuted his Jersey Shore gimmick on ECW, Striker made up some story about how the jobber he was facing was a fashion designer and he denied Zack access to his fashion show and Zack was mad at him. Thought that was the stupidest thing ever, but the fact that he tried it made me like him. Been a fan ever since.

Not since Gorilla Monsoon had anyone tried to make a jobber look like he had a reason to be in the ring...

James Steele 06-20-2013 07:16 PM

...now we know who will replace Todd Kennely.

Supreme Olajuwon 06-20-2013 07:17 PM

Ya for real though loved how much of a nerd he was for the product. Kinda came off pretentious a bunch of times but when Jerry and Cole were just going through the motions calling a match, Striker was like OH MY GOD THIS RULES.

CSL 06-20-2013 07:21 PM

Striker's finest moment for me was the "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!" story when Benoit died that London and Kendrick spoke about on their first shoot

MoFo 06-20-2013 07:29 PM

I miss him actually calling the names of moves correctly, rather than King & Cole calling everything a suplex or side slam

Theo Dious 06-20-2013 07:32 PM

Striker has this "I LOVE WRESTLING AND GOD IT IS SO AWESOME THAT I AM HERE" vibe. Cole has this "YOU ARE FORTUNATE TO GET TO LISTEN TO ME" thing going on.

Disturbed316 06-20-2013 08:01 PM

I'm glad, hated him.

#1-norm-fan 06-20-2013 08:01 PM

Oh, fuck off WWE.

Volare 06-20-2013 08:05 PM

Well....shit.

#1-norm-fan 06-20-2013 08:06 PM

When he was involved in storylines on NXT and cutting promos, the guy was comfortable as fuck. Seemed like he could cut a great promo in his sleep.

Next Big Thing 06-20-2013 08:12 PM

I didn't mind Striker on commentary. He had a certain enthusiasm for what he was doing that made me more willing to ignore the blunders.

mike adamle 06-20-2013 08:14 PM

I liked when he first started announcing, but he wore out on me fast

#1-norm-fan 06-20-2013 08:17 PM

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The promo he cuts here from 32:20-33:54

It's not groundbreaking or anything... But dammit he's miles ahead of most of the roster. He was so engaging and likeable and it seemed like he was so effortless with it. There were so many ways they could have used his talents. Retarded move, WWE.

Lock Jaw 06-20-2013 08:28 PM

I liked him as a commentator. Thought he would eventually be "the future" of commentary after everyone else retired/died.

Bad News Gertner 06-20-2013 08:29 PM

Striker with Big Daddy V was the goods.

screech 06-20-2013 08:30 PM

I was a big fan so this sucks for me.

Theo Dious 06-20-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4229309)
I didn't mind Striker on commentary. He had a certain enthusiasm for what he was doing that made me more willing to ignore the blunders.

When he worked with Lawler and Cole (PARTICULARLY Cole) they didn't help him out at all and jumped on him for everything. When he made the "Cena's free!" flub Cole could very easily have covered for it by saying "yeah but it's cost him his job!" and saved the moment. Instead he just said "Cena's FIRED" as if he were correcting a five-year-old who got a math problem wrong.

Lock Jaw 06-20-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 4229326)
When he worked with Lawler and Cole (PARTICULARLY Cole) they didn't help him out at all and jumped on him for everything.

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Here they are ripping on him for telling the viewers the name of a move.

Savio 06-20-2013 09:48 PM

I'd rather not look up cattle mutilation

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-21-2013 02:00 AM

Cole and King were first grade cunts to Matt Striker. Be a star guys not a bully.

Afterlife 06-21-2013 02:09 AM

This annoys me intensely.

Droford 06-21-2013 02:10 AM

If he could go back to teaching he'd be the coolest teacher ever, but I bet he cant

Droford 06-21-2013 02:13 AM

Sounds like the basis for a movie

Former teacher turned wrestler fired..goes back to school to teach..inspires a kid to stand up to bullies and try out for the wrestling team..

James Steele 06-21-2013 02:52 AM

Striker was great as a nerdy, smarky, and blow-hard announcer. Sadly, the average fan finds that annoying. He should have been fired after the "I'm marking out, bro!" bullshit.

mike adamle 06-21-2013 06:07 AM

What was so bad about the I'm marking out bro line? I can understand being annoyed by the Cena's free!! comment, but I'm marking out bro really goes with who his character was, an obnoxious wrestling fan turned commentator who loves nostalgia and surprises, which Diesel was. Unless there's more to it?

mike adamle 06-21-2013 06:14 AM

Also, I see he's moved on to commentating indy ippv's as he's set for tomorrows FWE show. I think this is where Striker belongs. Putting over indy talent before they get to the E (if they do.) Hope he picks up more indy announcing bookings.

Evil Vito 06-21-2013 07:19 AM

<font color=goldenrod>My favorite Striker line was a commentary exchange on ECW:

"As the great wordsmith Calvin Broadus once said, 'I've got my mind on my money and my money on my mind.'"
"Wasn't that Snoop Dogg?"
"Calvin Broadus."

James Steele 06-21-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4229584)
What was so bad about the I'm marking out bro line? I can understand being annoyed by the Cena's free!! comment, but I'm marking out bro really goes with who his character was, an obnoxious wrestling fan turned commentator who loves nostalgia and surprises, which Diesel was. Unless there's more to it?

A) 95% of the audience doesn't even know what that means.
B) Would J.R., Gordon Solie, hell even Tony Schiavonie even say that stupid shit?
C) It is the WWE. It is the premier brand in all of pro wrestling. It is the gold standard. Don't fuck up as much as he did and don't say stupid smark shit that goes over 95% of the audiences head.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-21-2013 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 4229584)
What was so bad about the I'm marking out bro line? I can understand being annoyed by the Cena's free!! comment, but I'm marking out bro really goes with who his character was, an obnoxious wrestling fan turned commentator who loves nostalgia and surprises, which Diesel was. Unless there's more to it?

I'm fairly certain they didn't tell him Diesel was coming out so he'd say something stupid like that so they'd have an excuse to cut him from the three-man-team.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:06 PM

J.R. probably had a few surprises in his career and he didn't say stupid shit like that. It cheapens the product when the announcers make it sound like a fucking Chikara Fan Podcast.

weather vane 06-21-2013 01:06 PM

If it frees up a spot for Colt Cabana like it has been rumored then I'm all for it. He was decent though.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-21-2013 01:09 PM

He didn't even say holy shit. He said holy and then holy.....wow.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 01:09 PM

I love Striker. This is definitely sad.

I especially liked when he would quote Atmosphere and Brother Ali. Of course, ninety five percent of the audience (possibly even more in those cases) didn't get it, but I'm in the fiver or less percent that did and appreciated it.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 01:10 PM

Some of you really talk like you work for WWE. Don't get mad at Matt Striker for catering to marks. Every single one of us IS a mark. He was OUR voice.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:13 PM

He wasn't my fucking voice. He didn't do shit to accentuate the Sheamus/HHH match at WrestleMania XXVI.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:13 PM

He is still better than Michael Cole, but I have a softspot for Cole from watching "Livewire" back in the day.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:14 PM

Josh Mathews is my favorite announcer in WWE.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229707)
He wasn't my fucking voice. He didn't do shit to accentuate the Sheamus/HHH match at WrestleMania XXVI.

Did he ruin the match for you?

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-21-2013 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229708)
He is still better than Michael Cole, but I have a softspot for Cole from watching "Livewire" back in the day.

The only good episode of Livewire was when Vince Russo came in and yelled at them for the show sucking balls.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 01:18 PM

Whether any of us liked the "MARKING OUT BRO" bit, we all knew exactly what he was talking about. Anybody who didn't probably didn't hate the Rumble because of it. It really wasn't offensive to anyone.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:22 PM

It was offensive to Vincent Kennedy McMahon, ergo, it was offensive to me.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 01:23 PM

Oh, so you're not serious. Thanks.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-21-2013 01:24 PM

Sneezing is offensive to Vincent Kennedy McMahon.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:25 PM

"Offensive" isn't the right word to use. It just took me out of the moment where I was feeling like a mark.

Big Vic 06-21-2013 01:25 PM

I liked Cole/Mathews Announce team on NXT where they would just shit on the product. Striker was a good host there.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229722)
"Offensive" isn't the right word to use. It just took me out of the moment where I was feeling like a mark.

OK, I can see that. We mark because we mark from the proposed parameters that have been put forth by the business over the years, and we don't need to be reminded that it's fake by the announcer.

I saw it as Striker losing himself in the moment and letting his fandom get the best of his professionalism, which is fun in a different sort of way.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:29 PM

Striker was good in the backstage interviewer role. I still don't understand what WWE was trying to accomplish by having Cole/Mathews shit all over the product.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 01:30 PM

Punk sort of does the same sort of thing on the mic as Striker did on commentary, but his 'outside the box' remarks are based in frustration, not fun.

Nicky Fives 06-21-2013 01:32 PM

terrible call....could have been a great commentator if given enough time.... could have been an excellent "Paul Heyman-type" mouthpiece for upcoming talent.....could have been a decent midcard wrestler if given the chance.... lots of could haves......

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:34 PM

Punk usually ties his smarky remarks in a bow that all the fans can understand. Like his original "pipebomb", while some things the casuals didn't know what he was talking about (ROH, NJPW, Colt Cabana), he still made it about a) winning the title, b) wanting respect, c) frustration that he has been better than all for a long time and still not getting the money opportunities (cups, shirts, etc.). An announcer screaming "I'm marking out, bro!" and not really tying it into anything is completely jarring. Either for casual fans who don't know what the fuck he is talking about or for a guy like me who rolled his eyes and was taken out of the moment.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4229729)
terrible call....could have been a great commentator if given enough time.... could have been an excellent "Paul Heyman-type" mouthpiece for upcoming talent.....could have been a decent midcard wrestler if given the chance.... lots of could haves......

Shit in one hand and put Matt Striker's potential in the other. See which one fills up faster.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:37 PM

JR gets lost in moments and screams like a fucking madman, but he adds to the moment by doing that. Striker took away from moments when he got excited because he forgot he still had a job to do.

Big Vic 06-21-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229727)
I still don't understand what WWE was trying to accomplish by having Cole/Mathews shit all over the product.

I don't think anyone cared at that point.

James Steele 06-21-2013 01:58 PM

Still crazy to think that AJ and Kaitlyn have been in WWE for almost 4 years.

Ultra Mantis 06-21-2013 02:01 PM

His memory will live on forever as the guy Johnny Curtis chloroformed on NXT.

mike adamle 06-21-2013 04:13 PM

He was a mark at the announce table. And I'm sure most of the audience knew exactly what he meant when he said he was marking out. It's not the 90's anymore, people do say that. I really don't get the big deal in him saying he was marking out. Why did that take away from Diesel coming out? What if others were marking out when he came out and he spoke from their point of view? Just because Matt Striker isn't Triple H and won't cut a promo or talk like him doesn't mean he was shitty by any means. And I didn't even like him that much, your reasoning just sucks though.

GD 06-21-2013 04:29 PM

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James Steele 06-21-2013 04:41 PM

What other announcer in the history of wrestling has said the term "marking out" on one of the biggest pay-per-views of the year?

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 04:44 PM

So you're saying he stands out.

James Steele 06-21-2013 04:45 PM

So did El Gigante.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 04:45 PM

A part of the Undertaker's streak.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 04:46 PM

A part that doesn't ruin or detract from it, for that matter.

James Steele 06-21-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4229802)
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To me, that isn't being a great announcer. That is just a blowhard who is trying way too fucking hard.

James Steele 06-21-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4229809)
A part that doesn't ruin or detract from it, for that matter.

It is like if you order a giant Sundae with no nuts, but they end up putting a few nuts on it anyway. You can forgive said nuts because the bulk of the Sundae is delicious.

Malfeitor 06-21-2013 04:48 PM

What's the big deal? The majority of the audience doesn't even know what "marking out" is so it shouldn't matter.

mike adamle 06-21-2013 04:51 PM

Come on. If we're really gonna bag on things that some announcers say then what about J.R. or Jerry Lawler? Think about the phrase "Getting whipped like a government mule." Is that really better than Striker saying he's marking out? Everyone says stupid things sometimes, but they're being them, the government mule line fits J.R. and his Oklahoma background. Matt Striker saying he's marking out goes right with him being a nerdy over excited wrestling fan. I don't see the problem.

James Steele 06-21-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Malfeitor (Post 4229812)
What's the big deal? The majority of the audience doesn't even know what "marking out" is so it shouldn't matter.

You don't see a problem with play-by-play guy regularly saying things majority of the audience has no idea what the fuck he is talking about? That is the issue. Announcers help viewers understand what the fuck is going on, not confuse them or distract them from the main product.

James Steele 06-21-2013 04:53 PM

"Getting whipped like a government mule." is a phrase that has existed for decades.

James Steele 06-21-2013 04:55 PM

He did his best as the 3rd man/Mike Tenay style expert who chimes in occasionally, but he let Cole/JBL/whoever shit all over him. Then, when he gets to be a big boy announcer he acts like a fucking spastic wrestling fan. I am listening to spastic wrestling fans next to me while watching the PPV. I don't want to hear it on the TV too.

GD 06-21-2013 04:55 PM

Matt Striker was a breath of fresh air at first but eventually got stale and ridonculously annoying. I didn't mind when he got demoted and eventually let go of.

Juan 06-21-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229805)
What other announcer in the history of wrestling has said the term "marking out" on one of the biggest pay-per-views of the year?

and yet, still no fucks were given

Ultra Mantis 06-21-2013 05:04 PM

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Striker would have made a pretty good manager for some of the low card guys.

James Steele 06-21-2013 05:10 PM

Here is Jim Ross marking the fuck out, but he doesn't act like a spastic fan. He still does his job and adds so much to this match:

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Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 05:11 PM

Nobody ever said he was Jim Ross, and it's silly to make that comparison. You can't just compare every basketball player ever to Michael Jordan. Even the all stars.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 05:12 PM

Tyson Kidd is a solid hand. I'm not going to hate him because he's not Shawn Michaels, though.

James Steele 06-21-2013 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4229828)
Nobody ever said he was Jim Ross, and it's silly to make that comparison. You can't just compare every basketball player ever to Michael Jordan. Even the all stars.

You should try and model yourself after the best in your field.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 05:18 PM

Sure. But how long was Jim Ross in the business? And how long was he "Good Ol' J.R."?

Compare that to Striker's time in the business. Who's to say he wouldn't have gotten better? You seem to be coming down on Striker for no real reason. From what I understand, it wasn't even his idea to be an announcer. It was WWE's. Wrestling was his passion. That's what made him quit teaching. Considering that they just kinda tried it out on him, I thought he did QUITE well.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 05:19 PM

If J.R.'s original plan was to become a wrestler, but they stuck him in an announcer role instead, then perhaps we could make some valid comparisons. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that that definitely was not the case.

James Steele 06-21-2013 05:20 PM

Jim Ross started out as a referee/ring crew/lackey for the booker.

Next Big Thing 06-21-2013 05:21 PM

JR had the body of a Greek God Thrilla. He could have been world champ.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 05:22 PM

Most did. Ross had to have known he wouldn't be a wrestler, though.

Next Big Thing 06-21-2013 05:22 PM

I feel like Cole and King left him out to dry a lot of times too. There were countless times where he'd ask King about a move or hold to try to sell it to the audience and King would just sandbag or sound really annoyed.

James Steele 06-21-2013 05:25 PM

Either way, Striker was in WWE for 8 years. He was average at best. The WWE is the #1 company in the world and needs guys to either develop or get the fuck out of the way for those who are ready. They have a shitload of former wrestlers and some newer young guys who are better announcers than Striker ever was. Will you really be all that sad if Regal replaces Striker in the booth?

James Steele 06-21-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Next Big Thing (Post 4229842)
I feel like Cole and King left him out to dry a lot of times too. There were countless times where he'd ask King about a move or hold to try to sell it to the audience and King would just sandbag or sound really annoyed.

So? Quit being a bitch expecting everybody to take care of you. Fuck Lawler and explain the move yourself. You are a former wrestler. Of course, the better decision was to act like a pompous smark talking over the audiences' head.


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