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mike adamle 07-01-2013 09:00 PM

7/1/13 Mike Adamles PERSONAL raw thread
 
Punk teams with axel

mike adamle 07-01-2013 09:01 PM

Hot cunt vickie gerro says del rio faces jawn cena

Corndad 07-01-2013 09:02 PM

Well I guess this is the main Raw Thread lol at least there wasn't a recap to start this week.

mike adamle 07-01-2013 09:03 PM

My boy db out now

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 09:03 PM

lol nice shirt

mike adamle 07-01-2013 09:04 PM

Man does Daniel Bryan look like Rocky Dennis right now or what???

mike adamle 07-01-2013 09:06 PM

Oh nope here comes Rocky Dennis right now

Emperor Smeat 07-01-2013 09:07 PM

Sort of want to order the shirt Bryan has right now.

Corndad 07-01-2013 09:08 PM

Love that new shirt.

GD 07-01-2013 09:08 PM

World Heavyweight Champion versus WWE Champion tonight. Woohoo!

Heisenberg 07-01-2013 09:08 PM

"I'm not hungry, I'm STARVING" Randy Orton everyone

#podcast

Providence Peep 07-01-2013 09:09 PM

This crowd is pretty dead, eh? Where are they tonight?

ClockShot 07-01-2013 09:10 PM

Really want RVD to come out for this.

Chances are low it seems.

Corndad 07-01-2013 09:15 PM

This has to pick up... right?

Emperor Smeat 07-01-2013 09:16 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Yeah, <a href="https://twitter.com/CMPunk">@CMPunk</a> knows <a href="https://twitter.com/TherealRVD">@TherealRVD</a>'s game plan: get high and hope for the best. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RAWTonight&amp;src=hash">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/statuses/351856476345737216">July 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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GD 07-01-2013 09:17 PM

I absolutely love it when they build up the heavyweight titles.

Corndad 07-01-2013 09:18 PM

Kinda like them building up the Titles for this match. New concept.

GD 07-01-2013 09:18 PM

Errr...wasn't Lou Thesz a multiple time NWA World Champion?

Savio 07-01-2013 09:20 PM

No you're thinking of Jeff Jarrett

ClockShot 07-01-2013 09:22 PM

Sierra...........Hotel............India...........Echo..........Lima..........Delta...........SHIELD !

Savio 07-01-2013 09:24 PM

Wow shield doesn't even get a promo spot

Corndad 07-01-2013 09:24 PM

Shield getting their win back eh

Evil Vito 07-01-2013 09:25 PM

<font color=goldenrod>I love how every time they hold a good match on SD, it's almost a lock that you'll see it on the next Raw. Almost like WWE is saying "well, that was good...maybe we should put it on a show people actually watch."</font>

Savio 07-01-2013 09:26 PM

Jey Uso is doing pretty well against Kaitlyn

ClockShot 07-01-2013 09:27 PM

Blood?

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 09:31 PM

Paint

ClockShot 07-01-2013 09:33 PM

Ah.

Providence Peep 07-01-2013 09:42 PM

I have a front row seat for Smackdown in Providence this month. I really hope Teddy Long is there to set up a tag team match. :|

ClockShot 07-01-2013 09:42 PM

Very quiet in here tonight.

Corndad 07-01-2013 09:43 PM

Wonder how the betting line for Jinder is in Vegas for this match lol

Savio 07-01-2013 09:43 PM

That was not a prop guitar?

Poit 07-01-2013 09:43 PM

Ziggler and... Jinder?

GD 07-01-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4234966)
No you're thinking of Jeff Jarrett

It's interesting that the WWE considers the history of the NWA World title until WCW withdrew their membership from the alliance.

Providence Peep 07-01-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4234989)
Very quiet in here tonight.

Everyone left when I came.

ClockShot 07-01-2013 09:46 PM

Dolph Ziggler. One Man Army.

GD 07-01-2013 09:48 PM

So the lineage of the World Heavyweight Championship extends to the NWA World title (until the WCW withdrew from the NWA), the WCW World Heavyweight Championship and the World Championship (the name of the belt after the WWF defeated the Alliance at Survivor Series).

Corndad 07-01-2013 09:53 PM

Kinda hyped for a Mark Henry Video Promo #Thingsneverwouldhavesaidyearsago

ClockShot 07-01-2013 09:55 PM

Nice job, A/V department.

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 10:12 PM

lol

Poit 07-01-2013 10:22 PM

Fandango returns!

Emperor Smeat 07-01-2013 10:23 PM

Cole and Lawler seem like they completely forgot about Fandango when JBL made the "Miss Fandango" joke. JBL makes the same joke every time Summer Rae is there and both reacted to like they've never heard it before.

#1-norm-fan 07-01-2013 10:29 PM

Just turned on the stream... Why is there no commentary?

dronepool 07-01-2013 10:32 PM

I never watched a war games match, but it actually look sorta cool.

GD 07-01-2013 10:35 PM

Wow! Y2J gets a jobber entrance.

GD 07-01-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4235034)
Wow! Y2J gets a <strike>jobber</strike> WWE app entrance.


Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 10:44 PM

Don't bother making a distinction.

Corndad 07-01-2013 10:52 PM

How did anyone not mention how freakin smokin Summer Rae is. Jesus.

KIRA 07-01-2013 10:55 PM

Its Mark Henrys "I have a dream" speech.

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corndad (Post 4235049)
How did anyone not mention how freakin smokin Summer Rae is. Jesus.

I guess everyone just assumed that it was a commonly held belief.

Corndad 07-01-2013 11:02 PM

PTP's biggest match ever. Doesn't even get an entrance. Yikes.

Corndad 07-01-2013 11:10 PM

THE MAN THEY CALL.... STING

slik 07-01-2013 11:11 PM

STING

Corndad 07-01-2013 11:15 PM

Alicia Fox. The Heel. Wasn't she just a face 2 weeks ago?? This has to be an ongoing joke backstage. Has to be.

Corndad 07-01-2013 11:20 PM

Laylas gonna cost Kaitlyn then fuck Big E live on PPV. Book it.

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corndad (Post 4235077)
Laylas gonna cost Kaitlyn then fuck Big E live on PPV. Book it.

I would rather book Kailtlyn winning then Layla and Kaitlyn fucking.

Corndad 07-01-2013 11:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>RAW is unpredictable. You never know what will happen next, but you can guarantee this live crowd won't care <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RAWTonight&amp;src=hash">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/statuses/351888706287845376">July 2, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Bad News Gertner 07-01-2013 11:28 PM

Fuck I love me some Damian Sandow on the mic.

Poit 07-01-2013 11:29 PM

Formerly of Lucerne, Switzerland. :lol:

Poit 07-01-2013 11:35 PM

Why is this thread so empty?

Savio 07-01-2013 11:41 PM

That new black diva is fuckin hot

Corndad 07-01-2013 11:41 PM

Wyatts Next Week. Hell Yes.

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poit (Post 4235093)
Why is this thread so empty?

I don't know, it's been a fairly good RAW so far.

Heisenberg 07-01-2013 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poit (Post 4235093)
Why is this thread so empty?

I have arrived for the main event, my pubes are not trimmed...but I mowed my lawn mang

Corndad 07-01-2013 11:43 PM

Wow. Ricardo not being there makes such a difference. Damn. Crickets.

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-01-2013 11:44 PM

Whats with the world title ladder match having all the heels when there is a heel champ?

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 11:54 PM

The WWE match has all the faces because they are former champs.

Immortal Moose 07-01-2013 11:54 PM

I consider Punk to be a face now.

Heisenberg 07-02-2013 12:02 AM

JBL sounds bored right now, poor guy

#1-norm-fan 07-02-2013 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4235112)
Whats with the world title ladder match having all the heels when there is a heel champ?

World title match is all heels going for a heel-held title.

WWE title match is all faces going for a face-held title.

It's weird.

Emperor Smeat 07-02-2013 12:08 AM

:lol: Henry toying around with Cena

Savio 07-02-2013 12:09 AM

They are not cashing in right away

Poit 07-02-2013 12:10 AM

Nice, Wyatt Family video to close the show.

Hanso Amore 07-02-2013 12:13 AM

Wait.....doesn't all the wcw champs they showed actually belong as part of the unified wwe title?

Emperor Smeat 07-02-2013 12:17 AM

Think they re-split the lineage again a few years ago or whenever the last time they considered the Big Gold belt as part of the actual old WCW and NWA belts.

#1-norm-fan 07-02-2013 12:33 AM

What was with the lack of turnout for this Raw thread?

Savio 07-02-2013 01:05 AM

People were enamored with my participation in KOTF

MIZantine Empire 07-02-2013 03:58 AM

"Cesaro knows 5 languages and with zeb he is learning Dutch" that was such a good line from JBL.. Also I hated this crowd.. Some of them were trying way too hard to be the post wrestlemania crowd.. It got cringe-worthy for me at times

Crazy Nick 07-02-2013 07:11 AM

I missed this entire show last night, did I miss anything good?

mike adamle 07-02-2013 07:27 AM

Why are all you people in my personal raw thread???

Mercenary 07-02-2013 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 4235137)
JBL sounds bored right now, poor guy

He sounded that way the whole show.

GD 07-02-2013 11:22 AM

I thoroughly enjoyed the build up for the main event. The only thing that bother me was that while visiting the history of the big gold belt, only one champion who held the belt in it's current iteration was showcased - Booker T.

http://wrestling-match.com/wp-conten...558alsh3er.jpg

They could have shown Triple H since he was the first ever World Heavyweight Champion and arguably the most important wrestler to hold the strap and solidify it in the company.


http://celebsview.info/wp-content/up...Undertaker.jpg


Undertaker was somewhat responsible for maintaining the prestige and bringing it back to the main event scene.


http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1289783491


And Edge who held the strap for a record seven times.

Big Vic 07-02-2013 12:06 PM

I hope Vickie is removed from Raw, this stupid McMahon storyline makes no sense with her having power.

James Steele 07-02-2013 01:38 PM

It feels like they are trying to get sympathy for Vickie, and I don't know if that is possible short of her breaking down crying in the ring and start talking to Eddie. I hope that sort of thing wouldn't happen.

Ultra Mantis 07-02-2013 02:12 PM

I skimmed the results and saw that Ryback lost via ref stoppage because he got destroyed by The Miz. Was this as hilarious / awful as it sounds?

GD 07-02-2013 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 4235480)
I skimmed the results and saw that Ryback lost via ref stoppage because he got destroyed by The Miz. Was this as hilarious / awful as it sounds?

Ryback asked to stop the match. It was a "WTF" moment because for such a long period of time, Ryback has been pushed as a monster and now he's acting like a crybaby. It's quite a change in his personality.

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Savio 07-03-2013 04:07 PM

I wish ADR went over Cena, put over the WHC a bit.

GD 07-03-2013 04:19 PM

I second that. They have been "demoting" the big gold belt for a while now. It doesn't help that the WWE Champion gets a pinfall victory over the World Heavyweight Champion.

Corndad 07-03-2013 09:24 PM

Shoulda had either Dolph or Henry actually interfere and end in No DQ. Both matches furthered and the World Belt isn't "Demoted"

#1-norm-fan 07-03-2013 11:05 PM

As much as the World Title has been made to look like shit over recent times, just the fact that ADR was wrestling John Cena was a plus for the title. He shouldn't have gone over though. Let's not make the WWE champion look weaker in the process.

James Steele 07-04-2013 03:34 AM

John Cena could job to Zack Ryder and be fine coming out of it. WWE has a ridiculous Hogan-level paranoia about him looking weak. The only guy to really beat Cena clean multiple times since 2005 is CM Punk. Look what it did for him.

#1-norm-fan 07-04-2013 03:43 AM

lol. The guy loses enough. They aren't paranoid about him looking weak. He's the top guy in the company. It makes sense for him to actually look strong. Having a guy hold a title while losing left and right just to make the rest of your roster look good is not only retarded but if he were losing left and right, at a certain point it wouldn't be putting anyone over. Regardless of how big of a star he is, it doesn't make anyone look good to go over a guy who loses on a regular basis.

James Steele 07-04-2013 03:47 AM

Missing the point. John Cena losing to ADR with some shenanigans wouldn't hurt Cena and would help ADR and the WHC. Hell, Ziggler beating Cena in the cage match in January would have done ungodly good for Ziggler and not really hurt Cena at all (especially considering he won the Rumble, beat Rock for the title, etc.)

James Steele 07-04-2013 03:49 AM

Cena is on a completely different level than anybody in the company. The only one close to him is CM Punk...and how did they achieve that? In order to get people remotely close to his level, they have to beat him. Besides, whenever Cena has lost clean - it hasn't effected him. He comes out and does his whole spiel on never giving up and we start the thing over again. Remember, the "worst year of his life" wasn't all that bad and helped build Punk up to the level he is now.

Yes, having a Wade Barrett or Cody Rhodes lose often after winning the IC or US title is stupid. They are still trying to be built up. Cena is built up more than Fort Knox and the Great Wall of China. Losing occasionally doesn't hurt him and helps the other guy incredibly.

#1-norm-fan 07-04-2013 03:51 AM

Dolph Ziggler beat John Cena in the main event of a PPV in December and then was stagnant until he cashed in to beat Del Rio 3 months later. Like I said, Cena loses enough. To the point where most people over the age of 13 find his character to be shit. It doesn't do much long term anymore for people to beat him. Especially on a random Raw.

James Steele 07-04-2013 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4236465)
Dolph Ziggler beat John Cena in the main event of a PPV in December and then was stagnant until he cashed in to beat Del Rio 3 months later. Like I said, Cena loses enough. It doesn't do much long term. Especially on a random Raw.

He beat Cena because a woman knocked over Cena while he was on a ladder. Ziggler beating Cena clean inside a steel cage would have given Ziggler a MOMENT and huge momentum going into Mania season and his eventual cash-in. Aren't you always bitching about how they don't build up guys who win the briefcase or titles?

Cena doesn't lose enough, and he doesn't lose clean enough. It is almost always some shenanigans or some over the top convoluted finish that gives him an excuse (clusterfuck interference, being thrown into searchlights, tackled through sets, etc.)

#1-norm-fan 07-04-2013 03:55 AM

Because he's the top guy in the company and should be booked like it. Wrestling is better without parity. Someone beating Cena should be a big fucking deal. Not just a common occurrence.

James Steele 07-04-2013 03:56 AM

He's only made 1 guy. The man has been the top star for 8 years and has only made 1 guy. That is the bigger issue especially considering him losing has been shown to not hurt him. He has never been hurt by losing clean. I'm not saying he needs to lose every month, but at this point he doesn't need to be built up anymore. He needs to build up other guys.

#1-norm-fan 07-04-2013 03:57 AM

Ziggler beating clean in a cage match would have been fine as long as they didn't follow it up with the 3 month span they ended up going with Ziggler.

His loses should be few and far between though.

James Steele 07-04-2013 03:58 AM

I agree, but more than once every 3 years. Who has beaten Cena cleanly more than once and been established as a long term main eventer after feuding with Cena? The only guy I can name is CM Punk and that helped push him into the stratosphere.

James Steele 07-04-2013 04:03 AM

Cena did establish Edge, but I can't recall Edge actually beating Cena clean. That fit with Edge's character though. So, I aplogize - CENA has made 2 GUYS in 8 years on top.


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