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Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Announced for the summer of 2015 at ComicCon, will be the official sequel to 'Man of Steel'.
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Oh. This could very well end up being the first piece of Superman media I've ever seen. Damn you Hollywood.
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Emo Superman Returns
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Hopefully it is better than Man of Steel.
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Pfftt, only me and Kalyx know which issue JKDFNJE KGV QEK'RM K'OWNM'IOF x2 appeared in. All other opinions are worthless and will not be considered.
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Agreed.
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I was kind of hoping for another solo Superman movie, though. I mean, I am not disappointed by this news or anything.... but yeah.... I had hopes that the Man of Steel sequel could be a great Superman movie now that they have "set the scene".
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OH MY!
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Not sure I like the idea of this being a direct sequel but regardless it will be interesting to see who is cast as The Batman and btw I prefer the following logo even though it was intended to be Routh's Supeman.
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Jack Huston 4 Batman
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Will wait and see about this. Superman sucks and I loved Christian Bale's Batman in the most homosexual way possible.
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This has the potential to be incredible. I mean, the way that Man of Steel ended--what with the catastrophic fight and half the city being destroyed--does kind of open an opportunity for a smarter, more strategically minded hero to try and smack some sense into him, as sort of a "come on, you know better" sort of way. Considering all of the critics kept bitching and moaning about how Man of Steel was too destructive and that Superman was reckless and violent, this could be an effective way to to an in-character retcon, basically forcing Superman to fight with his smarts as well as his power and get better at the whole "being the world's most powerful superhero" thing. And then presumably the two of them would team up to take on, say, Brainiac or a properly-done Lex Luthor (or preferably both).
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I'm annoyed at the whole destruction thing since a) that kind of destruction happened in a great many Superman comics, b) he's just barely 'Superman' at that point and his Pro-Life Code and classic battle strategy of a seasoned hero can't be expected of a guy's first day on the job.
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I agree--and two other points on that: first off, the vast majority of the destruction that everyone's been whining about was from the World Engine, not from the fight itself--and secondly, after going back and watching it again, most (not all, but far and away the majority) of the building-smashing and whatnot was Zod, with Superman on the receiving end of the damage.
Unfortunately, common perception tends to have more weight than what actually happens in the movie, so the general consensus was that Superman just clumsily smashes buildings and kills everyone without a care in the world. |
Another thing that grinds my gears about the destruction argument is how in the event Superman and the General would have failed it would be complete and utter destruction and more than likely genocide from a deranged and pissed off alien.
So they can keep showing those cute infographs about how much the battle cost and how many people died, since I'm sure Krypton would love to suffer those stats. |
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So, how close do you think they get to Dark Knight Returns territory?
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I figure they'll say a line or two from it when Batman inevitably beats Superman since A) he's the fan favorite and B) generally speaking it's more satisfying to see the clever underdog beat the super-powerful demigod. My guess, though, is that the Superman/Batman fight won't be the finale--it'll probably be the end of the second act, after which they'll team up to fight the bigger villain in the end.
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Ready for this. |
Man of Steel was the best Superman movie so I hope this comes out good and not cheesy or rushed.
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Gotta say, I'd love to see a Crisis-type event with Dean Cain and Tom Welling playing other realities' Supermen, and any number of the movie Batmen reprising their roles also.
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I'd die of a heart attack. A similar 'never happening' event would be the MCU getting Fox's X-men cast and Sony's new Spidey. Also live-action Marvel vs DC with all the current actors, from Mark Ruffulo to Steven Amell.
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Emo Blitz. |
Though thinking about that, it sounds rather redundant.
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Calling one of your posts terrible isn't emo. It's a rather joyous thing, really.
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lol blitz is pretty far from emo last I checked.
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he's not even a little bit sad, what is wrong with you
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That is for a panel of qualified therapists to decide.
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Not excited for this, at all. A sequel two years later is a little quick, and it's really quick to be rebooting Batman, which just came out a year ago. Add to that I didn't care much at all for the Man of Steel effort, and I'm feeling really underwhelmed about this.
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You should probably avoid it then, because they're totally doing it.
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Lol, I'll keep an open, of course. Just feel like Supes deserves a real sequel, not a team up, and a new Batman deserves his own film to build him and his new world up before they rush him into an obvious cash move.
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the problem dc faces with this whole "wider universe" thing is that they're well, well behind where marvel is presently, so if they wait any longer, they're going to well and truly miss the wave of interest that they need to buoy such a venture, but rushing it is an equally treacherous position. arguably they're already trailing so far behind that they may as well wait 10-15 years before trying it at all.
and as much as i love batman and superman, i'm so tired of those two being the only people they ever really make films about. they have a world of great characters and they just don't put the faith in their back-up players (or even the female member of the trinity) that marvel did, much to their detriment. they're just like "oh, green lantern didn't do so well, so screw wonder woman/the flash/martian manhunter/aquaman/hawkgirl/anyone else that isn't batman or superman", and it seems like a huge misstep and a waste. |
It is huge. From what I'm told from a friend at work who is a much bigger comic aficionado than I, Iron Man wasn't particularly popular the way he is now before the first film came out. Marvel took a chance on the film and it paid off, largely because they invested in the character and everything else came second. WB seems to miss that point, outside of Batman, which I think they got extremely lucky with, since they have yet to replicate any semblance of the success that the DK trilogy had.
Which sucks, because their animated films show that Green Lantern can be ood and fun, and Flash and WW are filled with potential. |
exactly. the animated wonder woman film is fantastic. if they could replicate that even a little bit in a live-action setting, they would have a hell of a property on their hands. but they're so caught up in making their live-action world "gritty" and "realistic" that we'd never see it. but so many of their characters are otherworldly and powered in ways that just don't fit inside a "realistic" universe. marvel, meanwhile, have themselves a norse god and just went to town with it. i know a lot of people don't really rate the thor movie, but i actually think, as far as capturing a "comic book" feel without being overly schmucky about it, they did pretty damn well. and then he fit in really well with the rest of the avengers.
aquaman, especially since the launch of the new 52, is rife with potential for a truly kick-ass movie. the flash could be amazing, getting into the speed force and the black racer and even zoom. i dunno, they just seem to be missing the point of everything that could be great about their characters. |
Should have been a Green Lantern/Superman team-up. That Green Lantern film was fantastic.
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A Green Lantern/Superman film could have actually worked aces. Superman "exiles" himself into space for killing General Zod, like he did in the comic books. There he encounters Warworld/Mongul and then since it is in space, Green Lantern shows up and they team up to take it on.
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Honestly, this gets both the Superman sequel and the obligatory introduction of a new Batman out of the way in one piece rather than two, possibly expanding exposure and maybe even introducing other characters and possibly even promoting a further expanded universe. I don't see it as a problem and I certainly don't see the combination as being done instead of whatever other fanwank people want to see before a JLA movie.
I mean, unless you actually dislike the franchises. Then fuck that shit. |
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The Wonder Woman animated film is really good, way better than I thought it would be. Aquaman has been given a big boost in the comics the last few years, he comes across as a legit bad ass, as does Mera. When I was watching Flashpoint the other day (also a thumbs up) I was thinking about how it would be interesting if DC started their Justice League movie like that, in an alternate reality where the heroes were fighting, rather than the traditional, we meet, we bond, we fight team origin. It would be a different take. |
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However, since they plan on taking him in "new, exciting directions" or whatever, they probably do need the kind of introduction you're talking about. |
Who will have existed first in the terms of this universe? Batman or Superman?
Probably Superman... |
Thinking Batman.
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I mean, you don't think they're gonna do his origin in Superman's sequel? He's gonna appear already established.
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I would think, but you don't need an origin story for Batman anymore.
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And when the new sets off to the new Bat-movies I'm thinking it'll most likely have the rest of the Gotham Knights. Joker will be the main villain for part 3 instead the first or second. And it will be 20% lighter with more attempts at humor (mostly from Robin or Batgirl). Stephen Amell will cameo at some point.
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Are you serious about the Stephen Amell?
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No. :(
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Not crazy about the Bat logo, not sure why.
It will likely evolve though, like a WM logo tends to, as time goes on. |
You kidding? That's Frank Miller's logo. It was very deliberate.
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Really hope that they don't have Batman beating up Superman in the movie. Had enough of that, and it only fuels people who think Superman is stupid and lame.
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Only silly people. Batman humbling Superman has been done to death but it's gonna be what the new Batman needs to make a statement going into his own franchise. Since they're going for an older Bruce, we'll be getting an experienced Batman, I suppose.
People who think Superman is stupid and lame will never be sated and I say fuck em. You can't make movies to the whims those kinds of people. Superman Returns; too boring. Man of Steel; too much action/destruction. You just can't get some people. |
Definitely digging this potential Frank Miller-style Batman
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They're definitely going to have a moment of batman getting one over on supes, if only to show he's in the same league despite having no powers
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That said, there have been stories I've really enjoyed. All Star, Kingdom Come, and Brainiac for example. They're just few and far between for me. |
I know this.
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They can have Batman one-up Superman with his brain or whatever, but I have zero desire to see him physically beat up Superman.
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And the current casting rumors say WB's looking for a late 30s/early 40s chap. |
I am referring to the many times in comic books where they have Batman beat up Superman so he can look "badass".
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Often using something. He doesn't just waltz up and kick his ass like you're making it sound. I am well aware of the trend of humbling Clark, just spoke about it at length actually, but he's not the pinata to Bruce like that.
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In fact, peep the first issue of the 2000's Superman/Batman where Kingdom Come Superman makes a kinda sorta cameo. He has some commentary of that very status quo that should make you feel better.
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Well in that case why is it a problem? It's a handicapped Superman. Nothing to be ashamed of.
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It is for us die-hard Superman fans who have been living for years under the torment of "Superman sucks. Batman is way better. Batman can kick his ass. Superman is Superlame"
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Let it go. We know what his values are, why care what others think?
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I don't, but it doesn't mean I can't state my own personal wishes.
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When I first saw those overlapping logos, I thought they could make a new Justice League movie despite those 2 are at the front row seats of the roster..
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I would like to see a Batman that really plays his martial arts skills to the fullest. It scares me to say it, but if they're looking for an older actor for Bruce, what would people think of Mister Four Initials?
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Superman isn't a relatable character and I don't think he'll ever be to me.
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I was in the "Superman sucks" camp,the whole unrelatable, boring hero argument then All-Star Superman came along and made me really appreciate him.
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What about Tom Hardy playing Batman? Sure he's younger then the rumors are saying, but that would be pretty cool.
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Not digging the idea of a 40 year old Batman.
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what if Bruce Wayne play batman
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Ian McKellen should play Batman.
Judi Dench should play Alfred. |
I've got it lads. Danny DeVito plays him at the beginning when he's retired and chilling on a beach with Alfred sipping on some mojito's. Then some nasty little critter causes havoc, his red bat-phone goes off to ask for his help. We then get a 5-10 minute montage of him training to get back in shape, and at the end, out walks Arnold Schwarzenegger with the bat mask in hand.
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Another solid idea right there. A puppet Batman could be very innovative.
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I would also die a happy man, but probably not until the DVD release.
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JCVD as Batman would be terrible. Stop that.
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Never, let me dream.
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That's cool, too.
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Umm, Christian Bale is in his late 40s anyway. He's a dead cert to play The Batman one more time. Mark my words Christian Bale will be in this movie, you can put your house on it.
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For some reason that quote in Lock Jaw's post did not show up instantly and I thought he was suggesting Vinny Mac play Batman :|
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Vinny Mac would make a great "older" Batman
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according to some newsy things i've seen, some of the front runners are ryan gosling, josh brolin, richard armitage, max martini and matthew goode
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actually, because i am fickle and this picture is pretty sweet, i could get behind the idea of josh brolin if i really had to
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I could definitely get behind that.
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