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Ol Dirty Dastard 09-25-2013 06:57 PM

Which wrestler was the worse commentator... Booker T or Randy Savage?
 
Listening to both of these guys commentate is so hilariously awkward. It's crossing the threshold of so bad it's good. But who is the more ridiculous commentator to listen to?

If you need reference points just find any raw on youtube from about 1994 for Savage as well as KOTR 1993 I know for sure he does. It's amazing how a guy who was such a great promo and performer could blow such hard nuts as a commentator, but it was pretty funny. He commentated the classic 123 kid vs Bret Hart match and he was like "I need to take some notes and add some moves to my REPERTOIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE" lollll so retarded.

As far as Booker I just watched the Money in the Bank 2011 and he is just brutal but that same level of funny awkward as Savage to the point Michael Cole pretty much just reminds everyone how stupid Booker is.

I think they are essentially on part with each other for headshakingly awkward.

Thoughts?

Corporate CockSnogger 09-25-2013 07:02 PM

Loved when Nash returned and Booker was all "Awwwwwwwwwwwwww, it's mah big homie!"

Bad News Gertner 09-25-2013 07:05 PM

Savage was atrocious.

Bad News Gertner 09-25-2013 07:07 PM

Can we throw Mongo into the mix?

Vastardikai 09-25-2013 07:07 PM

Santino is worse than BOTH of them.

Ultra Mantis 09-25-2013 07:11 PM

The answer is Alex Riley.

Bad News Gertner 09-25-2013 07:12 PM

I found Dusty Rhodes to be awful as well.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-25-2013 07:15 PM

lol couldn't understand a fucking word Dusty said

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-25-2013 07:17 PM

Santino and Alex Riley can't really count, they didn't regularly commentate ppvs and flagship shows and so forth

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-25-2013 07:18 PM

Honestly when Savage called a match you would think he never wrestled in his life because it seemed like he didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. And it's not like he was trying to put himself over either. He was just bad.

Bad News Gertner 09-25-2013 08:00 PM

Booker T was awful and it really showed how good Michael Cole really is.

Savage would just talk in throwaway sentances.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-25-2013 08:05 PM

yeah lol he'd give up just like halfway through most of his sentences.

Razzamajazz 09-25-2013 08:06 PM

i haven't heard Shucky Ducky Quack Quack in a while, that's a plus

Bad News Gertner 09-25-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4306534)
yeah lol he'd give up just like halfway through most of his sentences.

Lol it'd go something like this

Monsoon: Shawn Michaels is mounting a comeback with a series of lefts and rights

Heenan: Tatanka looks to be staggered

Savage: Monday Night Raw is a happenin dig it!

Seth82 09-25-2013 09:01 PM

I'm throwing Bruno Sammartino and Johnny Valiant's names into the mix as well.

Bad News Gertner 09-25-2013 09:04 PM

Was just about to say Bruno.

Superstar Billy Graham was laughable at time. Haha I remember this Savage match where he was dead serious about Miss Elizabeth should bulk up to 200 pounds so she could handle herself. It was hilarious because he wouldn't let it go.

Fignuts 09-25-2013 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4306517)
I found Dusty Rhodes to be awful as well.

Yeah but he gets a pass for being unintenionally hilarious at times.

Fignuts 09-25-2013 09:51 PM

Savage is still Savage though, and his ridiculous over the top peronality made it at least bearable.

Stevie Ray might be the worst. Felt legit embarrassed for the guy on a regular basis.

Bad News Gertner 09-25-2013 10:01 PM

Lol remember Juvi on Thunder?

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-25-2013 11:32 PM

The best is when Savage would say something retarded and Vince would have to shake it off and be like "HAHA!" in that over the top cadence he had when he talked.

Shisen Kopf 09-25-2013 11:52 PM

Rob Bartlett is the worst ever. Just watch the first match. He's totally useless.

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Ol Dirty Dastard 09-25-2013 11:59 PM

don't even need to. Heard him before, he'd try cut the worst jokes and just always miss the marks. You could audibly hear how annoyed Vince would get with him.

James Steele 09-26-2013 12:07 AM

Triple H was tremendous as a commentator. "I'll beat him like a bag of puppies."

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-26-2013 12:09 AM

thanks for ruining the thread

James Steele 09-26-2013 12:12 AM

Thanks for go fuck yourself.

James Steele 09-26-2013 12:12 AM

#HEEL

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-26-2013 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4306583)
Rob Bartlett is the worst ever. Just watch the first match. He's totally useless.

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True but he's not a wrestler.

Tom Guycott 09-26-2013 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4306557)
Stevie Ray might be the worst. Felt legit embarrassed for the guy on a regular basis.

SUCKAS GOTS TA KNOW!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4306560)
Lol remember Juvi on Thunder?

To be fair, this was during his "I hate/idolize The Rock" phase, and EVERYTHING he did on a mic was terrible, not just commentary.

Shisen Kopf 09-26-2013 12:33 AM

Yeah, that's right. I guess I'd have to say Booker T is worse than Macho.

Tom Guycott 09-26-2013 12:41 AM

The odd thing is, it's like Booker did it on purpose. He could cut decent promos, and his commentary moments in TNA with Nash ("IT'S BLACK SNOW, DAWG!") were awesome. Savage was just being Savage on commentary, and it would be like putting in-character Warrior in the booth.

Bad News Gertner 09-26-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4306549)
Was just about to say Bruno.

Superstar Billy Graham was laughable at time. Haha I remember this Savage match where he was dead serious about Miss Elizabeth should bulk up to 200 pounds so she could handle herself. It was hilarious because he wouldn't let it go.

Here's the match with Graham on commentary. Lol you have to hear how bad he is.


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SlickyTrickyDamon 09-26-2013 12:47 AM

lol Steele Cage.

Fignuts 09-26-2013 01:12 AM

No no no I've got the worst right here in my DVD collection.

Back in 2001, a company called tokyopop released a bunch of FMW DVDs here in the states. They had a couple guys dub over the matches with a couple American commentators.

One guy was just a generic play by play guy but the color guy.... Holy shit was this guy awful. I love Hayabusa but he made these matches hard to watch. You could tell he didn't know a thing about wrestling or even care about it, as he did nothing but make terribly unfunny jokes that had nothing to do with the match or wrestling in general

It was so bad that they actually missed calling the pin fall in one of the matches. A taped match that they were dubbing over. And they left it like that.

It's like the producers were like "you know what? Anyone watching this DVD will have put this shit on mute by now thanks to this idiot, so lets just call it a day."

Bad News Gertner 09-26-2013 02:24 AM

Pretty much any of the wrestler that wrestled in the WWF in the 70's that did commentary in the 80's was awful. Former jobber The Duke of Dorchester Pete Doherty was the exception. Fucking hilarious.

Anybody Thrilla 09-26-2013 02:27 AM

When I first heard Booker T on commentary, I contemplated suicide for at least two weeks, not wanting to exist in a world where that was happening.. Eventually though, I grew to love him for some reason. "MY BOY D-BRYAN!" sticks out to me for some reason. I kinda miss his ridiculousness, and I really do think it could have been Michael Cole's reactions to him that made it fun. Props to Cole for that.

I was too young to notice the intricacies of Savage's commentary when I first heard them, and it's been a while since I've re-watched a match with him at the table. I'll have to take a trip down memory lane soon.

Anybody Thrilla 09-26-2013 02:28 AM

Dusty Rhodes churned out some gems like "clubberin" and "pay winduh".

Stevie Ray squeezed out some absolute turds like "fruit booty".

Bad News Gertner 09-26-2013 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4306644)
When I first heard Booker T on commentary, I contemplated suicide for at least two weeks, not wanting to exist in a world where that was happening.. Eventually though, I grew to love him for some reason. "MY BOY D-BRYAN!" sticks out to me for some reason. I kinda miss his ridiculousness, and I really do think it could have been Michael Cole's reactions to him that made it fun. Props to Cole for that.

I was too young to notice the intricacies of Savage's commentary when I first heard them, and it's been a while since I've re-watched a match with him at the table. I'll have to take a trip down memory lane soon.

Watch Wrestlemania 9.

Anybody Thrilla 09-26-2013 02:46 AM

Ewww, no way.

Bad News Gertner 09-26-2013 02:50 AM

Lol the greatest is how he just gets up midway through the show and leaves

Fignuts 09-26-2013 02:57 AM

lol what was I watching where savage walks by mean gene and yells some unintelligible nonsense, and gene is just standing there not sure what to say.

Savage is so fucking awesome.

Rammsteinmad 09-26-2013 08:09 AM

I loved the team of Michael Cole, Booker T and Josh Matthews. Granted, they all had their flaws, but when they were calling Smackdown, it felt as though they were really left to call their own stuff, and some of the stuff they were coming up with was more entertaining than anything going on in the ring.

Mr. Nerfect 09-26-2013 08:14 AM

This is not really in the same frame of discussion, but I felt really sorry for Ricardo Rodriguez when he was given like two weeks on Main Event. The guy can be fun on the mic (although we've never really heard him properly promo -- he just does the ring intro shtick), but he seemed so lost out there with Josh Mathews and The Miz. He'd be asked a question and you could just hear him either thinking or listening to what he's supposed to say over the headset. Then he'd just randomly start getting excited in Spanish, lol.

Mr. Nerfect 09-26-2013 08:15 AM

SmackDown commentary teams always seem to be the best for some reason. Even if it's one like Todd Grisham & Jim Ross.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-26-2013 10:41 AM

lol I think the thing with Booker and Savage is how bad they were is always entertaining no matter how you look at it. Other commentators who suck just suck and you want them to go the fuck away.

Bad News Gertner 09-26-2013 10:43 AM

Lol check out that Savage vs Dibiase cage match I posted GDN.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-26-2013 11:22 AM

"She'll still be beautiful 80 poudns heavier" lmfao great match too

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-26-2013 11:26 AM

lmfao the kid who climbs the cage! BAHAHAHA

Bad News Gertner 09-26-2013 11:51 AM

Lol I just love how Graham refuses to drop the subject

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-26-2013 11:56 AM

Yeah he really won't let it go, and Hayes and Mean Gene are just like "...uh yeah..."

Sepholio 09-26-2013 01:49 PM

Did Warrior ever do any commentary at all? After reading this thread and taking a few strolls down memory lane, I think commentary by THE VOOOIIIICCCCCEESSSSSSSS would be pretty hilarious....and awful.

Emperor Smeat 09-26-2013 02:23 PM

Neither were great as commentators nor were the worst but give the slight nod to Booker T.

Savage might have been too deep into his "Macho Madness" character which is why a lot of times he barely made any sense. Either that or a lot of drugs considering the era he was in.

Booker T was pretty brutal for a while after returning with some of that being him new to all the changes and the other being him randomly saying stuff that didn't make sense even from his character's perspective.

Seth82 09-26-2013 02:25 PM

another awful one was Paul Boesch.

Prior to running the Houston territory he wrestled in the 30s to the early 60s.

He is brutally awful to listen to on the Houston-Mid South footage. He often times mixed up names as well.

weather vane 09-26-2013 02:45 PM

Top ten worst commentators

1. Rob Bartlett
2. Mark Madden
3. Mike Adamle
4. Stevie Ray
5. Don West
6. Booker T
7. Dusty Rhodes
8. Bruno Sammartino
9. Mongo McMichael
10. Randy Savage

Seth82 09-26-2013 03:32 PM

Madden, Bartlett, Adamle & West don't count as they didn't wrestle.

Anybody Thrilla 09-26-2013 03:57 PM

Seeing as to how Spilchuk's list is entitled as it is, I think they count just fine.

weather vane 09-26-2013 09:37 PM

Wow I should learn to read...

Curd 09-26-2013 10:02 PM

How is "got to add moves to my repertoire" remotely dumb? Bobby Heenan would talk about wrestlers "taking notes" in WCW whenever a wrestler would walk out to watch another's match.

#Devil'sAdvocate

Curd 09-26-2013 10:03 PM

I enjoyed Madden's ridiculous justifications for the actions of the heels, although he does come across as very angry on his blog.

weather vane 09-26-2013 10:46 PM

Madden's a fag.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-26-2013 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth82 (Post 4306957)
Madden, Bartlett, Adamle & West don't count as they didn't wrestle.

LIAR!

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Ol Dirty Dastard 09-27-2013 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curd (Post 4307143)
How is "got to add moves to my repertoire" remotely dumb? Bobby Heenan would talk about wrestlers "taking notes" in WCW whenever a wrestler would walk out to watch another's match.

#Devil'sAdvocate

I didn't have a problem with him saying he wanted to add moves to his repertoire, it was how he said repertoire, he just sounded like an idiot, it was so ill timed. He was like "I'm gonna add some moves to my REPERTOIAAAAAAA" like pronounced the r as an a. He was just way too gimmicky to be a commentator.

Saving Grace 09-27-2013 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4306517)
I found Dusty Rhodes to be awful as well.

Apparently Dusty never let you go to "DUH PAY WINDUHHHH"

Bad News Gertner 10-11-2013 05:36 AM

Good lord Bruno was awful.

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Mr. Nerfect 10-13-2013 12:14 AM

Can't wait to hear Tensai as a commentator.

parkmania 10-15-2013 09:38 PM

With how lots of folks are attacking Booker T and his endless catchphrases, I'm surprised Tazz hasn't come into the discussion.


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