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slik 11-12-2013 05:36 PM

Fantastic Four (2015)
 
In case the summer of 2015 wasn't crowded enough with superhero films...

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...-reboot-655306

Lock Jaw 11-12-2013 07:47 PM

I swear, 2015 is going to be the end of the blockbuster movie because there are so many coming out, some are going to not do well just because people are weary of it. Also too expensive to see every one.

mitchables 11-12-2013 09:03 PM

huh. there's gonna be an assassin's creed movie. i was not aware of that.

dunno, already don't really care about the FF reboot. if it's good, awesome, but honestly i never really loved the fantastic four anyway. like i get their appeal and understand their importance but... ehh.

Vastardikai 11-12-2013 10:05 PM

I want to see a well done Dr. Doom. As in, he's clearly evil, but show how he is actually a good ruler and cares about his people.

But seriously, FUCK Reed Richards. I think the only "heroic" character that is more unlikeable than he is would be Cyclops.

mitchables 11-12-2013 10:49 PM

http://mimg.ugo.com/201102/8/5/8/172...480_poster.jpg

if only this happened to reed

slik 11-13-2013 12:48 AM

I heard they might go a more 'comedic tone' (think Rebel Wilson as the invisible woman and Jonah Hill as the thing)

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-13-2013 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4333857)
I heard they might go a more 'comedic tone' (think Rebel Wilson as the invisible woman and Jonah Hill as the thing)

It's not the Fat-tastic four Slik.

Blonde Moment 11-13-2013 06:45 AM

They are going to have their work cut out for them to get this right

Krimzon7 11-13-2013 07:19 AM

I wonder how did people feel about Iron Man when it was announced? Just don't remember.

The Destroyer 11-13-2013 11:28 AM

All I remember is that some people were really down on RDJ as Stark. The fools.

DaveBrawl 11-13-2013 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4333874)
It's not the Fat-tastic four Slik.

Artie Lange for Mr. Fantastic.

Kane Knight 11-13-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4333796)
I want to see a well done Dr. Doom. As in, he's clearly evil, but show how he is actually a good ruler and cares about his people.

But seriously, FUCK Reed Richards. I think the only "heroic" character that is more unlikeable than he is would be Cyclops.

Ant Man?

I hate Hank Pym.

I would like to see Doom as a charismatic despot though. Bonus points if the actor playing Doom can make Doom look badass while Doom refers to Doomself as Doom in the third Doomson.

I'm surprised there's no further news on the cast. The Michael B Jordan rumour is almost a year old now, with nothing to really confirm or supersede it. Granted, moving the date may be related to that....

It's also a shame Fox still has the FF rights because I'd love to see a persistent Doom show up in an Avengers or Avengers tie-in movie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4333857)
I heard they might go a more 'comedic tone' (think Rebel Wilson as the invisible woman and Jonah Hill as the thing)

Thank God your sources are 95% inaccurate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Destroyer (Post 4333987)
All I remember is that some people were really down on RDJ as Stark. The fools.

It's really weird because Downey pretty much was the Tony Stark character minus the ability to build incredible devices from scraps in a terrorist hideout.

Tom Guycott 11-13-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4333796)
I want to see a well done Dr. Doom. As in, he's clearly evil, but show how he is actually a good ruler and cares about his people.

But seriously, FUCK Reed Richards. I think the only "heroic" character that is more unlikeable than he is would be Cyclops.




Ehh. Arguable. I mean placing Cyke above Reed on the unlikability scale. They're both still asshats, though.

As for Doom, the Twisted Toyfare Theatre version of him would be awesome. Especially if they are ging for laughs. "I shall launch the Baxter Building into space! (again) Yes, this pleases Doom! Suck it, Richards!"

slik 02-20-2014 01:53 AM

F4 cast announced...

Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm
Kate Mara as Sue Storm
Miles Teller as Reed Richards
Jamie Bell as Ben Grimm

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...-reboot-681868

Fignuts 02-20-2014 02:03 AM

The previous movies weren't very good, but Bell and Jordan still have some big shoes to fill.

Evans and Chiklis did an amazing job, and made the movie fun for me despite all it's other flaws.

Blitz 02-20-2014 02:16 AM

Not one of those actors screams their role to me (But Jordan did something of a super turned down Johnny in Chronicle kind of), but there's a lot of talent there. I'm curious.

Innovator 02-20-2014 08:34 AM

You had me at Kara Mara

Sixx 02-20-2014 08:44 AM

So how are Sue and Johnny siblings here?

Blonde Moment 02-20-2014 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4381301)
So how are Sue and Johnny siblings here?

Well I think the assumption is that it was an interracial marriage, at least that is the response some are getting for the casting choice. Personally I don't like the choices,

If people want diverse heroes then the companies need to make new heroes that youth can identify with rather then change the current ones. I read some forums and see people wanting so and so be gay and so and so changed to Black or Hispanic or whatever and I want to go "You stupid Mother fuckers why don't you support the minority heroes they did give titles to or added to groups, hell DC comics added an all Black line that pretty much disappeared due to lack of interest.

Kalyx triaD 02-20-2014 03:16 PM

I don't think this is for diversity; the director's just down with Jordan.

Damian Rey 02-20-2014 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4381299)
You had me at Kara Mara

:heart:

Kalyx triaD 05-08-2014 06:18 PM

Johnny and Sue's father is black, meaning at least sibling in laws or Sue being adopted.

slik 07-18-2014 09:46 PM

Quote:

In an interview with MTV.com, upcoming Human Torch – Michael B. Jordan is talking about the new Fantastic Four movie.

"Josh’s vision is very clear and he knows exactly what he wants, and he gives us room to adapt and to play. That’s what I kind of think sets us apart, is that this is going to be grounded and unconventional.

It’s not your typical superhero film, you know, we aren’t looking at this as like, being superheroes. We’re more or less a bunch of kids that had an accident and we have disabilities now that we have to cope with, and try to find a life afterwards – try to be as normal as we can."

- BleedingCool.com

Just like X-Men...

Kalyx triaD 07-19-2014 02:07 AM

I wouldn't say that's like X-Men.

slik 07-21-2014 03:23 AM

I wouldn't say that's like the Fantastic Four either.

Kalyx triaD 07-21-2014 02:30 PM

I'm not a huge fan or anything so however they wanna remix it is fine by me. Sadly, this does mean another version of Doom that will not be like what he is in the comics.

Kalyx triaD 01-27-2015 05:35 AM

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...vkbizya8gy.jpg

lol

Rammsteinmad 01-27-2015 10:34 AM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/cxIldZcUuCk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Rammsteinmad 01-27-2015 10:35 AM

Trailer doesn't really reveal too much, but it certainly doesn't look as god-awful as a lot of people have said it'll be.

JimmyMess 01-27-2015 11:01 AM

kewl trailer. don't care much for the FF, but it was kewl.

Lock Jaw 01-27-2015 01:27 PM

Hmmmm... the "tone" of this thing so far.... I dunno... it seems like it could have been a "decent movie" if it were just about four people, and not a Fantastic Four movie.

Maybe a Challengers of the Unknown movie.

Kalyx triaD 01-27-2015 04:06 PM

Exactly, seemed like some other interesting thing.

KIRA 01-28-2015 04:54 AM

A lot of people don't really seem interested in this film or are convinced it's gonna suck.

Kalyx triaD 01-28-2015 07:22 AM

I'm certainly not saying the trailer put FF on people's radar all over, just that by avoiding nearly every cliche of superhero movie trailers it is at the very least interesting in a way. Lock Jaw pointed this in the direction of oldschool sci-fi pulp comics. The official summary also reveals that they do get their abilities by traveling across dimensions rather than space. This is crazy sci-fi shit.

There may be some strategy to being a decent sci-fi movie rather than a bad superhero movie, but we don't know that they can pull at least that off. What's important is there's no way Doom is going to be done service for the third movie in a row.

Kris P Lettus 01-28-2015 10:47 AM

They are doing reshoots ATM in Baton Rouge.

Rammsteinmad 01-28-2015 11:49 AM

The trailer doesn't seem that amazing to me, but I'm not totally disgusted at the idea of this film existing like so many others are.

I like the other two FF movies, and will give this one a chance. I'm interested that they've made changes to this movie, so that at least it's not completely like the comics or the past two films.

Simple Fan 01-28-2015 03:29 PM

This is not the Fantastic Four.

Rammsteinmad 01-28-2015 04:16 PM

Why? Coz Ben Grimm is black?

XL 01-28-2015 05:39 PM

The black guy is Johnny Storm.

Rammsteinmad 01-28-2015 06:30 PM

Whoops, yeah just re-watched it. My mistake.

So, to correct myself...

Why? Coz Johnny Storm is black?

Blonde Moment 01-28-2015 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4576127)
Hmmmm... the "tone" of this thing so far.... I dunno... it seems like it could have been a "decent movie" if it were just about four people, and not a Fantastic Four movie.

Maybe a Challengers of the Unknown movie.

Now that is something I could get into

Iconoclasm 01-29-2015 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4576127)
Hmmmm... the "tone" of this thing so far.... I dunno... it seems like it could have been a "decent movie" if it were just about four people, and not a Fantastic Four movie.

Maybe a Challengers of the Unknown movie.

I dunno, not really enough to judge. The effects look cool, but so does every superhero movie this day and age.

As far as the tone goes, the Fantastic Four movie SHOULD be something different from a superhero movie, and more like stuff like challengers of the unknown.

The whole basis of FF is that it combines old serial sci-fi stuff with comic book super heroes. So in that regard, it looks like they're doing alright.

Have never completely given up on this film despite the foreboding updates. Mainly because my love of Doom makes me want them to succeed with this.

The trailer has given me a faint bit of hope but it doesn't show much (doesn't show anything of hacker doom) so still on the fence here.

Frank Drebin 04-02-2015 07:46 AM

http://i2.wp.com/www.heyuguys.com/im...ize=1348%2C564

http://collegeage.files.wordpress.co...t-3-ending.jpg

Sixx 04-02-2015 07:51 AM

The Thing's got no panties?

Kalyx triaD 04-02-2015 04:53 PM

Pillar of light visual has been used in sci-fi movies yes.

Kalyx triaD 04-09-2015 12:55 PM

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...rqcpokaiaa.jpg

loopydate 04-09-2015 01:19 PM

Clayface?

Rammsteinmad 04-09-2015 04:37 PM

Holy shit that's scary.

Lock Jaw 04-19-2015 02:35 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jbcNTCoxD8g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Looks like it could be a cool sci-fi movie.... dunno....

Lock Jaw 04-19-2015 02:37 PM

I've never seen the two other Fantastic Four movies, but I may just go out to the theater to watch this one.

Fignuts 04-19-2015 03:33 PM

Definitely a more serious tone than the last two, but not too serious either.

Still can't really tell if it will be good or not.

Rammsteinmad 04-19-2015 05:39 PM

This looks like it could be a great movie if people don't compare it too much to the source material.

Thing looks terrifying. In a good way.

Kalyx triaD 05-22-2015 01:56 PM

http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/.../05/fan4-2.jpg

Evil Vito 05-23-2015 11:00 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Michael B. Jordan recently fired back at some of the basement-dwelling morons saying he has no business playing Johnny Storm because he's black. Because clearly Marvel universes can never be open to creative interpretation. Dude is a good actor, really happy with this cast.

Pumped for this movie. Thing looks completely badass.</font>

Miotch 08-06-2015 01:52 PM

Saw a screening last night.

It's pretty terrible.

Damian Rey 08-06-2015 01:58 PM

It is being critically murdered right now. May be the worst comic book movie of all time. Rotten tomatoes currently lists it at 8%. Oof.

El Vaquero de Infierno 08-06-2015 02:09 PM

Crikey, and there was me thinking I might go to see it (primarily to get my sugar-hit via popcorn) on Saturday. I may have to wait until next weekend when Man from U.N.C.L.E. comes out, to get my sugar fix.

Miotch 08-06-2015 02:10 PM

It's not the worst comic book movie of all time.

But it feels like it's 3 hours long and the third act is about 10 minutes.

The writing is also especially poor.

Kalyx triaD 08-06-2015 02:31 PM

Cut the deal, Fox. I expect the Baxter Building a few blocks away from Stark Tower by Phase 4.

drave 08-06-2015 02:48 PM

Didn't they make a Fantastic Four movie a few years back? Why again?

Kalyx triaD 08-06-2015 02:49 PM

Same as Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, etc. It just happens that way.

drave 08-06-2015 03:06 PM

Seems dumb.

drave 08-06-2015 03:06 PM

And is also shit, apparently.

Kalyx triaD 08-06-2015 03:14 PM

Stories are told and retold. This will be true for comic movies probably for the foreseeable future.

Miotch 08-06-2015 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4682220)
Didn't they make a Fantastic Four movie a few years back? Why again?

For dollars. And to not lose rights.

Emperor Smeat 08-06-2015 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4682220)
Didn't they make a Fantastic Four movie a few years back? Why again?

Wanted to reboot the series like they did recently for the X-Men series after a while. Also have a deal similar to what Sony had with Spiderman requiring them to make films on a constant basis to keep the license regardless if they were any good or needed at the time.

Damian Rey 08-06-2015 06:00 PM

I feel bad for fans. I know the Fantastic Four are beloved but in three, well, four counting the unreleased film, but in four tries they haven't gotten it right. Sucks really. I was hoping it'd be decent.

Sixx 08-06-2015 06:03 PM

Of all the comic book teams they could fuck up, I'm glad it's FF as I find them shitty and boring as fuck.

Fignuts 08-06-2015 06:54 PM

I've never been a big fan either. I did read Future Foundation, and enjoyed that but stopped when they started requiring you toread Fantastic Four to follow the story.

alvarado52 08-06-2015 07:05 PM

Eeeeehhhh.....never really cared for the FF. Always felt they were better as supporting characters.

Their villians on the other hand...those are the real stars.

Miotch 08-06-2015 07:16 PM

On that note (major spoiler ahead)

SPOILER: show
The fight Dr. Doom for all of 10 minutes and he gets fucking vaporized into nothing at the end. They couldn't even do that right.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-06-2015 07:49 PM

SPOILER: show


<img style="-webkit-user-select: none; ████████ zoom-in;" src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NT45O1ftQCk/UaarRF5sG2I/AAAAAAAAAwc/bv_Iow7LPyk/s1600/Arrested+Development+Fantastic+Four2.jpg" width="1352" height="845">



Still a more believable Thing. It's Clobbering Time.

Lock Jaw 08-06-2015 07:57 PM

Too bad the reviews seem terrible... Was mildly looking forward to this... Not because it seemed like any Fantastic Four I know, but because if I divorced it from everything it is "supposed" to be, it looked like it could have been a "cool" sci-fi movie.

alvarado52 08-06-2015 08:19 PM

I know Doom is the baddy in this flick, but I am extremely bummed that, with all the planet traveling, they didnt go with Super Skrull

Fignuts 08-06-2015 09:56 PM

I would have preferred someone new like Annihilus

Kalyx triaD 08-07-2015 04:56 AM

https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...6e&oe=563677AF

Shots.

Fucking.

Fired.

Damian Rey 08-07-2015 01:49 PM

He immediately deleted that tweet. Wonder what will come of it though. I'd be interested to hear his version.

Sixx 08-08-2015 12:33 PM

FF completely tanking @ the box office.

https://www.zalando.pl/anna-field-sa...1.html?size=36

RP 08-08-2015 12:57 PM

This movie was horrible. I almost left.

slik 08-08-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4683323)
FF completely tanking @ the box office.

https://www.zalando.pl/anna-field-sa...1.html?size=36

that is a nice looking shoe

Sixx 08-08-2015 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4683354)
that is a nice looking shoe

Accidentally pasted the link my gf bookmarked on my computer and asked me to send her through facebook.

Not editing it, because it is a beautiful shoe.

slik 08-08-2015 01:51 PM

the shoe is probably better than the Fantastic Four movie, tbh

Sixx 08-08-2015 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4683358)
the shoe is probably better than the Fantastic Four movie, tbh

Guess I'd rather watch this shoe for 2 hours.

mitch_h 08-08-2015 03:35 PM

I think these reboots are shit and that general audiences have less patience for them than say Kalyx, but they would at least be bearable if we didn't have to go over the characters origins every time. Like in the Incredibles (who were original characters) they didn't spend half the movie going over each characters origin, it was covered in like five minutes of newsreel footage, yet every eight years we have to spend a third of a movie watching Spider-man get bitten by a fucking spider and see his uncle die.

Triple A 08-08-2015 03:56 PM

How come this comic book movie sequel / reboot is "effing horrible" but every other one seems to be "beloved"... genuinely curious... is the movie actually really horrible or are a lot of people jumping on the "this movie sucks" meme train...

RP 08-08-2015 04:03 PM

Fucking horrible.

loopydate 08-08-2015 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4683409)
How come this comic book movie sequel / reboot is "effing horrible" but every other one seems to be "beloved"... genuinely curious... is the movie actually really horrible or are a lot of people jumping on the "this movie sucks" meme train...

Everything I've read (including a tweet by the director himself that was quickly deleted) says it's just a bad movie. Poorly paced, badly edited, horribly written. The initial trailers were all pretty bad, so I've been avoiding it, but it sounds like the critics and the fans agree that this is just a bad movie that had potential to be a good one, except they made a wrong step each time they had to make a decision (although I, for one, really like all the actors they cast).

Emperor Smeat 08-08-2015 08:20 PM

Can't remember the name of the other film was but seems like this is the second time in recent months that the "public won't see my version of the film" excuse has been used for a bad film.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4683409)
How come this comic book movie sequel / reboot is "effing horrible" but every other one seems to be "beloved"... genuinely curious... is the movie actually really horrible or are a lot of people jumping on the "this movie sucks" meme train...

Whole film series itself has struggled trying to be popular with the public. Biggest problem seems to be nobody knows how to adapt the comics into a good enough film without something screwing up big time.

Ruien 08-08-2015 09:05 PM

Loved the first film with Jessica Alba in it.

slik 08-08-2015 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 4683409)
How come this comic book movie sequel / reboot is "effing horrible" but every other one seems to be "beloved"... genuinely curious... is the movie actually really horrible or are a lot of people jumping on the "this movie sucks" meme train...

I really want to see it. I love bad movies.

This one had bad mojo before it was ever released. Lots of rumors on-set DRAMA, FOX refused to release promo shots or images until a few months before the film was released (we've already seen photos/trailers for superhero films coming out next year by comparison...including Fox's Deadpool). From what I've read the beginning of the movie is kind of good, then the middle part is badly written and super boring and then the big finale and fight with the bad guy is ten-minutes long and has bad CGI.

Droford 08-09-2015 11:28 PM

It seems odd to me with comic books that there's lots of source material for new original movies in every franchise and yet they seem to want to just go back and start from the beginning every kind of like..cycle.

Droford 08-09-2015 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 4682177)
It is being critically murdered right now. May be the worst comic book movie of all time. Rotten tomatoes currently lists it at 8%. Oof.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17kw...f/original.gif

Even worse than that huh? Lol

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-10-2015 02:17 AM

Yeah, that one was thrown together at the 11th hour to keep the license. This one was made for 111 million dollars. Not that much in today's standards so they might make alot of that back.

There's already a sequel scheduled. Well... probably not anymore.

SlickyTrickyDamon 08-10-2015 02:19 AM

Wooo trainwreck has racked in 91 million so far. Good for Amy Shumer.

Kalyx triaD 08-10-2015 05:43 AM

Fox is confirming, all of a sudden, that this is NOT in the same universe as X-Men. A few weeks ago everybody at Fox was giggly about a potential merging, not now. There will not be a sequel, I'm thinking.

Too bad, it was mostly well cast and the director's legit.

Sixx 08-10-2015 05:56 AM

The cast blows imo and I'm not even talking about black Johnny Storm.

Rammsteinmad 08-10-2015 10:06 AM

I'm still gonna see it. Been a life-long Marvel fan, and for the most part love all their movies (I liked the 2005 and 2007 FF movies).

Fignuts 08-10-2015 07:25 PM

Those movies weren't even that bad. Doom and Susan were bad, but Johnny, The Thing, and Silver Surfer were great.

Not saying they were great but they get shit on more than they deserve.

Rammsteinmad 08-11-2015 03:33 AM

Definitely. Obviously they're nowhere near as good as Avengers, Dark Knight etc... but they're not awful. I didn't even mind Galactus seeing as I think a giant man with a purple helmet with hook sticking out of it would have looked ridiculous. But nah those films are alright for what they are.

Seeing this film in about two hours, I'm still excited. I'll make my own judgments of it.

Rammsteinmad 08-11-2015 09:37 AM

Well, I'm back. I thought it was alright. Nothing amazing, but nowhere near as bad as the universal panning it's getting makes it out to be. The CGI is pretty basic, and Human Torch does look fairly naff, but overall I enjoyed it. "Dr. Doom" was a fucking monster, and I somewhat understand his reasons for being how he is, but the fight at the end is overall pretty lackluster.

I wouldn't be against a sequel, but please please please no more Dr. Doom. Let's get a different villain!

If I had to compare it to the original two movies, I'd probably go with the first two because the chemistry between the cast ie. the banter between the characters was a lot more fun. But this film is like the Amazing Spider-Man was to the Sam Raimi movies, same story, but told completely differently.


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