Now or never for Sting?
 

His contract is almost up and no doubt WWE will be making overtures in a desperate last ditch attempt to get him to come to WWE for the dream match against Undertaker.

Surely this has to happen in 2014 and at WM 30 of all events?

If not I can't see it ever happening. Sting's a fool for resisting all these years.

He doesn't need the money so he's hardly a fool, they'll do a Sting DVD regardless of if he signs or not, he'll make money off that so really its just if he wants to come in and job at 'mania or not first.

He's a fool in the sense that he could have had it all and truly been the biggest star in wrestling history. No doubt he is a legend but one wonders what might have been had he wrestled the likes of HBK, Triple H, Kane, The Rock, Stone Cold and yes of course the Undertaker. Almost every "major" star you can think of 1980s onwards made their career in both the WWE/WWF and WCW be it Hogan, Booker T, Bret Hart, Macho Man, Goldberg, Rey Mysterio, Chris Jericho, Eddie Guererro, Paul Wight and even Chris Benoit.

Here's a question:

Who says that Sting vs The Undertaker is a dream match for WWE?

Is Sting really so relevant 13 years after WCW closed down that him "challenging" Taker's streak is really that big of a draw? I don't think WWE's core audience thinks as highly of Sting as us hardcore rasslin' fans do.

What movie character would he rip off for his debut in the WWE?

I'd rather see Sting vs. Triple H to be honest.

I don't care who Sting faces, but a run in WWE would make me happy. If past relevance is anything to go by, if they can make RVD's return as big as they did this year, imagine what they could pull off with a Sting debut. It could be massive.

I'm not that bothered. He hasn't had a good match in TNA in a while as he is getting on a bit. I'd still like to see one WM match though, but my reaction wouldn't be marking, it would be:

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Sting would be pretty incredible to see. How do we think WWE would introduce him? Cool cryptic mysterious videos or random surprise appearance ala Rumble? Both?

I find it amusing that Bret Hart and Bruno Sammartino have made their peace with Vince and now Sting is the reigning king of the stubborn in wrestling. At this point it wouldn't bother me if he never makes it to WWE.

I don't think its being stubborn, he's on an alleged $500k a year for working a handful of dates within walking distance of his home for the most part of his tenure there, he wasn't a fan of the edgier product so why go somewhere he wasn't comfortable with?

I was wondering the same thing. Sting's matches are hardly watchable anymore, and seeing him challenge the streak would be a tremendous waste of everyone's time.

If anybody wants to see Sting, just watch TNA. He's there a lot.

Last time I saw Sting wrassle, which is a few years ago now, he did alright. So unless he suddenly went sharply downhill, he would be fine.

Part of me doesn't want to see him in WWE though. He's got a unique place in wrassling history as the one guy who never went to the WWE but still is a major star.

It'd be an awesome spectacle if he faced Taker at mania, but it certainly wouldn't be as good of a match as the last few taker mania matches. But I don't really see him facing anyone else.

Sting vs. John Cena maybe? That'd be a better style match than against Taker.

... Something that could have been brought to my attention 11 YEARS AGO!!!

I'm just now kinda wondering why Taker is the guy everyone talks about as Sting's opponent if he were to come to WWE. Is it really just because they wear black and had similar goth-like gimmicks in their prime?

It's just gotten drilled into everyone's heads as a dream match. I was always much more interested in Sting vs. Kane. But if Sting came to the WWE, I'd actually like to see him get a run with a story behind it.

I always wanted to see Triple H vs Sting for some reason.

Sting the die hard Christian that has to stick to his "principles"

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While I wish for it, I am confident that it will be never

There's definitely a marketable dynamic there. Legend vs. Legend, Icon vs. Icon, Sledgehammer vs. Baseball Bat, who loves Ric Flair more?

Mix between Sting being possibly the last big star yet to have been in the WWE, the idea of Mania 27 having a WCW-themed Hall of Fame being considered, and the dirtsheets every so often hint at the WWE still having a lot of interest in getting him these past few years.

If he ever did get signed, a one-time Mania match and/or a very small RVD-like run makes a lot of sense since it would be very similar to the TNA type schedule he enjoys a lot.

Sting wrestles with a shirt on now. A fucking shirt.

Sting vs. The Rock at Mania would be awesome

if they could get him to sign it'd be cool.

He's like 54 now so the time to do it is ticking.

Yeah, he's not abysmal, he is fine. But just that. Fine. I watch a decent amount of TNA, and whenever I hear that Sting is in a match, I get about as excited as I do about a Married With Children re-run. It was awesome when it was new, the allure is a bit outdated at this point, and I've probably already seen it. I'm definitely not going to buy it on pay-per-view, though.

I don't know why people are wanting so bad for Sting to come to the WWE.

Same people complaining about the Rock taking up a ppv spot.

Sting isn't even a great promo, and The Rock is probably currently better in the ring too.

Sting was good and all, but he really was only interesting between 96-98 with Hogan.

I must be missing something here, because I don't get the fascination

I would like to see Sting vs. Daniel Bryan, just because I think Bryan would get something approaching special out of Sting.

I'm thinking that Brock Lesnar could come out on Raw one night on the Road to WrestleMania and talk about how he's a monster and nobody in the WWE can stop him. Then the lights go out. Everyone thinks it's the Undertaker. When the lights come back on Sting is in the ring and has laid out Brock Lesnar with a baseball bat.

This would lead to Sting vs. Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania.

You could possibly throw Undertaker in there as well and make it Sting vs. Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker but I think the first match would be huge enough, feed taker to someone else.

Sting vs. Brock Lesnar sounds like a money match.

Its because he's never wrestled there, think that's about it really.

Shawn Michaels v.s. Sting w/ Jesus Christ as Guest Ref, Born Again title on the line. Loser has to fall back into sinning, or as I like to put it, being a normal person.

Does that mean we get colorful Sting back if he loses?

I think A 3-Way between Sting, Chris Jericho, and Brodus Clay would be a sleeper MOTN

I'm A huge mark for Sting, but I'd be fine with never seeing him work for WWE. First off, because I like the idea of him always being the one Legend who never worked for Vince and company. And also, sad as I am to say it, these days he just can't perform at the level WWE would expect for a one-night-only dream match against Taker or whoever.

Why do people still care? I loved Sting back in the day, but come on, he hasn't been relevant in 13 years. It'd be cool to see him in a WWE ring, but the guy is obviously well and truly past his prime, and it's not really anything that appeals to me.

Plus, one Sting match on the card means shit loads of guys like Wade Barrett, Antonio Cesaro etc being left off the card.

Unless Sting faced Wade Barrett or Antonio Cesaro in a classic encounter

Sting vs. Brock Lesnar actually sounds huge to me. Something about Sting standing up to a monster like Brock would make him feel "classic" again.

...but what if you want to ENJOY seeing Sting?

Youtube WCW.

Fixed.

Is it possible that Sting is "going through the motions" in TNA and would be able to pull out a great showing at Mania?

He should just retire already. The best appearance he could make would be in the hall of fame

I could see them putting Sting in a David vs. Goliath match against a heel Great Khali or a heel Brodus Clay

Never really thought much of him at all, liked his Jim Carrey/Joker gimmick i suppose
If nothing else id like him to sign up for Wwe games and dvd's

I honestly stopped caring after the 2/21/11 shit.

Yeah! I think when most current WWE fans' exposure to Sting is through DVDs, most of his pop would come from the IWC...which is divided on his return. Yay to Sting for not jobbing to Taker by staying in TNA!

It looks as it is NOW for Sting with rumours of his TNA contract not being renewed, the storyline next week and rumours of him being WWE bound surfacing once again. If he would arrive on time for the rumble..... Imagine him entering and winning? Then say Orton retains against Cena and then either the following night or week after issues an open challenge on raw and then undertaker returned and won? How would this affect my original Daniel Bryan prediction of winning? Maybe they could do the faces v authority match Cena Bryan and punk v Kane triple h and Orton so as to the top faces don't miss out on a mania main event? If sting is coming then sting v taker must be THE main focus of the ppv.

But then where does that put Brock Lesnar with his title shot at No Way Out? Maybe Batista interferes and costs him the match leading to another feud?

I dont get your POV, it's not about seeing Sting, it's wanting to see a whole load of fresh 'dream matches' if he goes to WWE.

Besides, with all the superb production and hype vids WWE can make any match look a million bucks. At Wrestlemania the occasion and atmosphere can disguise how bad a match actually is, Hogan/Warrior was basic but had everyone on edge.

Why? For all the millions of people who don't even know who Sting is?

If he comes to WWE he better wear his WCW shit and not that fucking slob T-shirt though.

ive been a sting mark for years. and seeing him potentially at WM or even in the WWE in general would be great IMO

however the realist in me says he will lose next wk on impact, be "fired" or whatever the stipulation is, take a couple weeks off. then resign with TNA for a year and be back on tv.

then rinse-wash-repeat this time next year

Why would they waste a title match on Sting? He doesn't need it, he's arguably the biggest 'free agent' going, they have footage of him going back 25 years or so they can use to hype him as the second coming of pro 'rasslin, him coming in should be a big enough selling point for his match that adding the only big title to it is a waste of a promotional tool for another match. And Sting vs 'Taker isn't THE match with a shitty two month build.

WWE has been PG for some time now and more family friendly then probably since the mid 90s. I have no clue what's going on in TNA but the last time I watched, Ken Anderson came out and called his fans a bunch of ass holes about fifty times while Velvet Sky bounced her ass up and down on the middle rope while getting into the ring.

Booker T did just fine for himself despite The Rock making one short comment in passing which was forgotten about the next week. The Rock did the same to Jericho when he debuted as well and he turned out ok.

I just don't buy Sting's excuses.

Would def be more interested in seeing Sting vs Triple H than Sting vs Taker. Considering the entire basis behind Sting vs undertaker being a dream match is that they're both goths, just have him borrow a bit of Takers guyliner.

I have zero interest in Sting vs Taker either. Mainly because I wouldn't want Sting to be brought in just to do the job. At least let him win his first match.

Lol excuses:rofl:

It's more Sting/'Taker stayed put during their respective big runs. It's like mofo said, a bunch of fresh 'dream' matches, there are a bunch of top guys he's never interacted with let alone wrestled, if they used him sparingly they could protect his image and get a few matches out of him before the nostalgia wears off.

Its been 13 years since Sting was relevant to WWE's audience... Wrestling is booked in 7 year patterns..due to average viewers drifting off...

Hardly any of WWE's mark audience have a clue who Sting is... Why would WWE want to book him?

The time was 8/9 years ago. This ship has sailed..

They're going to milk the WCW library for all its worth once the Network launches, it makes sense from that standpoint in a way, but if they don't sign him it doesn't really affect that or his inevitable DVD realistically.

Sting has said he doesn't approve of the wwe content in the past but there's more cussing/Half naked women on TNA currently than wwe.

An the other excuse is sad when Rock said that to everyone.

That's a reason, not an excuse.

FACKING BALSHIT!!

That "7 year cycle" makes literally no sense. As if people switch on at the age of 8 in 2014 and then spot watching at the age of 15 in 2021.

7 years to forget is widely accepted fact of rasslin...

Sometimes known as 'The Fleeting Demographic rule'

Source

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph....SevenYearRule

Go suck a thousand cocks

Pffft, I forget things in less than 7 years... I'd say 4 is my limit. After that it is all a haze of "I know some things that generally happened, but no idea of the specifics anymore"

Would mark the fuck out.

At most just put him in a tag match to give guys a rub. Put him in the HOF and just stop there

To the people talking about hype and production, it would STILL BE STING at the end of the day, which really isn't all that exciting right now. You sound like you're saying that you just really would like to be fooled. It's just Sting...

But a ribbon on a turd, and what is it?

It would be the same with any legend being brought in, the last lot of Hogan matchups were dire but were carried on the hype.

Undertaker vs Sting at Rasslemania. Gonna happen. There's an official thread for that though.

I still think Sting could put on a good showing given the right opponent.

Sting also has the "charisma" and "mic skills" to at the very least get us excited about his appearance/match.

In ring sting is done but maybe in a one off match for wwe he could still put it all together if he's willing to stop taking Dixie's money

At this moment, I could see a Sting/Punk match at WM - have Sting be brought in as what "real rasslin'" is, as opposed to "those indy/internet darlings".

You're not talking about reusing gimmicks/angles/stories/etc. You're saying that the audience don't know/wouldn't remember/care who Sting is.

Would the same not apply to Lesnar, who was gone for 8 years? He got a massive reaction. Flair had been gone from the WWE for almost a decade when he came back in 2001 to a huge reaction. Hogan, left in 93, came back in 2002.

If they execute it in the right way - against the right person, in the right city - he'd get the reaction. Wouldn't take long for today's "marks" to get it.

Lesnar stayed relevant to WWE's audience while he was gone by making a name for himself in the UFC. Flair was gone from WWE but relevant in WCW which was on par with WWE at times and shared an audience. Same with Hogan. Sting has not stayed relevant.

Lesnar was a huge draw outside of WWE, Flair transcended wrestling, Hogan is Hulk Hogan... using these examples only further proves the point I'm making.

Sting was a draw for a while in a company that didn't exist 7 years ago. He is irrelevant to the average fan today. No further questions your honour. You'll just have to accept that you are wrong on this occasion.

Considering the WWE has been trying to get Sting for the past few years, I doubt they are worried about what his relevancy status is since that can easily be fixed once their hype machine takes over.

Punk vs Taker last year showed the WWE doesn't need a long time to hype up a streak match while WWE.com and the WCW-related DVDs usually show a good deal of praise towards him every so often.

Be just like every other year fans will gossip and Sting will chicken out and remain with TNA. Unless he retires

Two months is more than enough time to hype a sting v taker match and with the launch of the network it helps to promote his classic stuff. Millions still know who he is in the wwe fans are nostalgic as shown by the Goldberg chants and macho man chants whenever punk does the elbow. As for why they should waste a title on him well it wouldn't be a waste if his feuds and matches were pulled off perfectly and can't have a legend come wwe of stings calibre and not have him on top if only for one ppv.

Sting doesn't need the title, Sting would be the attraction, you're just taking away a promotional tool from another match, you may as well make it a barbwire scaffold landmines on a pole laser shark deathmatch. Your idea was for him to come in and win the rumble, so he's on top for at least 3 months taking away spots from other guys who could benefit from being the rumble winner and being involved in the title match and the ensuing hype leading up to it.

Sting was THE guy for WCW. One of only a few people they made, the only top guy never to work for Vince, a bonefide legend. He will get a reaction from longtime fans and the guys that also watch TNA (aka the IWC) and if the "casual fans" don't get it...

I'm suggesting that if wwe wanted to do the sting angle properly then it would have been to develop feuds over a year, have sting beat some tops raw opponents, take part in a hell in a cell match, win the rumble, win a title etc as to allow him to have his glory in the wwe. Even he were to come for just wm 30 I have no doubt he will be scripted to lose to taker given that I think the streak would have ended long ago if the writers really wanted it. It would kind of take away that aura of invincibility taker has and what has been the standout moment of his career. As a sting fan I wouldn't want to see him make his long awaited debut in the wwe only to job to taker or Cena and I suspect amongst other things maybe that's what Sting has been cautious about hence his reluctance to jump to wwe.

Yes it would take away a promotional tool from one of the stars for a few months but do Cena, Bryan or punk need anymore hyping than they have at the moment? They will still be around for the next wm and the one after and maybe after that whereas this may well be stings only wwe appearance and if it does happen I guess sting fans out there are hoping it won't be a disaster like warrior coming to the WCW. If it wasn't for the fact ht warrior was just so crap, egotistical and took part in one of worst matches ever during his WCW time and didn't commit, I'm sure WCW had plans for him so far as biatch off claiming a whole merchandise line had been in the works and no doubt at some stage that would have culminated in a title run of sorts.

Wining the Rumble/Title so he can job to 'taker, who then historically disappears for 10months afterwards, is overkill. He's 50 something years old, he'll be used sparingly if he was brought in to hide that fact and maintain the nostalgia, he doesn't need all the bells and whistles to hype a 'Mania match especially against the Undertaker, the streak is the title there. And why for fucks sake would you put him in a HITC match?

Why not put him in a hiac match? If he's fit enough and up for it it would be awesome.

Hogan was near enough 50 when he came back to wwe fought rock at wm and won the title from triple h and beat HBK. Age isn't a barrier and as I said Sting is still quite reasonably physically fit whereas taker can't get through a single match at mania without needing a ten month recuperation period.

But let's be fair the streak isn't going to end so if and a big if sting does come to wwe for wm alone, is that how he will be remembered in wwe?

I don't care what Anybody Prissypants says, I would mark out like crazy to see Sting in the same ring as Taker.

You don't book Sting to appeal to the current audience, you book him to help hook in old fans to watch the biggest wrestling event of all time and potentially regain them as viewers.

If Sting comes out to his Crow theme song, he is instantly a big deal in my books.

People say a lot of wwe fans don't know who sting is but wwe fans are also wrestling fans and do watch TNA roh etc so we shouldn't assume that they are ignorant.

<font color=goldenrod>I highly doubt that they'd iron out a deal in the next week even if they did agree for Sting to come in, but my god I'd mark out huge for a Rumble appearance. I'd like to think they can find some way to keep it under wraps. Nobody knew Jake would show up the other week, for instance.</font>

also would rather him take on bray then taker. lights go out wyats come out then lights go out again then sting appears and beats there asses with a bat.

I'd pay money to see Blade Runner Flash induct Blade Runner Rock into the WWE Hall of Fame.

I wonder what Taker's thoughts are on a match with Sting. Could be veto it even if he did sign? Apparently he has a lot of say with his Mania opponent.

Pretty sure he could, it's never 100% he'll even work it so I'm sure they'll give him as much creative leeway as possible.

Not when it's not true.