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Our goal is to be the voice of the voiceless. This is not just about Chicago. It's about a movement and change on 03.03 #hijackRaw"

Seriously, get a fucking life. Gotta love those Husky Harris chants. Bet they were all high fiving each other waiting for their moms to pick them up after the show.

Personally, I *do* hope the fans in Chicago completely jack RAW.

1) It creates excitement and interest.
2) The WWE might actually wake up and not disrespect hard working full-time talents such as Punk by bringing in a 45 year old Batista......who has sat on his ass for 4 years.........to main-event instead.

I wonder how much censoring will happen on Monday? Half the show is probably gonna be muted because the guys in the production truck will likely be wearing out the censor button.

1) It doesn't create excitement. It's a bunch of 30 year old virgins whining that they didn't get their way on a scripted t.v.

2) You aren't guaranteed shit.

"hey we'll show the WWE who's boss by paying $100 to go to their product. That'll show them".

I wonder if they can just mic the crowd up less

I wonder if they can just dump gasoline on them and set them on fire.

That's why I fucking love the "Yes movement" shirts. The entire "movement" is based on people shitting on WWE for fucking up with their favorite wrestler and now those same people are giving WWE their money in order to express how disappointed they are in them. lol

If there were chanting for Heath Slater to win the World Title, then my feelings would be completely different.

Anytime now. After they jobbed him to El Torito, I'm starting to think WWE isn't planning on inserting Heath Slater into the title match at WrestleMania.

They are just jobbing him out before building him up, just like they did with Daniel Bryan.

if this was for heath slater, you'd be cupping the balls, gerty

Heath Slater needs to take a 6 month vacation, change his look and get repackaged in NXT with a different gimmick. If it can work for Husky Harris, it can work for Heath Slater.

I think it's obvious that Heath Slater is the victim of backstage politics by Hulk Hogan.

Yeah that record breaking, 400+ day title run sure was disrespectful.

Honestly Heyman, despite all your weird shenanigans on here, you strike me as some one who works hard to honor his commitments. Kind of suprised you support Punk here.

I don't believe in walking away from a job unless it involves unethical and immoral actions on the employers part. To our knowledge that's not why Punk quit. He quit for the same reason he threatened to leave last time. He just wasn't happy with his direction, and the company's direction.

He should of at least finished out his contract instead of fucking over the company that helped make him so much money that he never has to work again.

Even Austin says his biggest regret was walking out instead of working out his problems.

I don't get where people feel Punk is entitled to a main event spot. He's not entitled to anything. It's not real. This is like going to the circus and being upset that the seal with the ball on his nose didn't appear.

I remember watching the Del Rio vs Kingston match and the crowd chanting stupid shit, despite the match being fantastic. Just shut the fuck up or don't attend.

the only message they can send is halfway through the show is stage a crowd walkout. No way they could be organized enough to pull it off but thats the only avenue. chanting cm punk all night is gonna fall on deaf ears when they paid to do it. watching raw from a 70% empty arena would come across weird enough on TV that notice would get taken

they'd book on the fly and make the main event an empty arena match

^^ optimist

They still have your money. Plus it's fucking wrestling.

Trip the fire alarm to claim they had to evacuate the building.

If they didn't want to illegally do such a thing, just let the set catch on fire

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Yeah. Wouldn't wanna do anything illegal. So just intentionally start a fire in the building instead.

Use the Snitsky Defense

kick a baby?

This is like going to the toilet store...

...and they're all outta toilets

It's not fantastic. It's not real.

Well the fake match they had going on was very well done.

I personally would be pretty upset if I went to the circus and the seal with the ball on his nose didn't appear.

SEAL BALL PUNT
SEAL BALL PUNT
SEAL BALL PUNT

Whiners whining about whiners

That's no different than the officially sanctioned "We Hate Cena" shirts.

Thing is, though, is that WWE is actually acknowledging this stuff. Once upon a when, they used to sweep shit under the rug and act like it didn't/isn't happening. Yes, it comes off as being "whiny" and "entitled", but when the guys the fans have genuine vested interest in seeing get derailed in favor of the next flavor of the day (next on this list, Russev... guaranteed he'll be gone within a couple of years after being booked like a monster like so many "impressive looking" people in his mold. Kozlov comes to mind immediately.) I mean, they pushed the hell out of the Fandango SONG after a bunch of drunks sang along on ONE overseas tour, for chrissakes!

As far as fans paying money for seats to shit on the product, they truly are entitled to it. If you paid money to see some wrestling on a show that's full of promos and skits, they deserve to be called on it. If you paid money and are sick of seeing Cena all the time, you can vocalize that shit in a collective "boo".

The only problem I see with the comment that triggered this thread is the idea of the so-called "smart" fans who just chant shit just to chant shit. It's totally different than stuff done out of love, like "Holy Shit", "You Fucked Up", or "You Still Got It" stuff reserved for those moments... it's annoying, petty shit like the people who still do "WHAT?!" when the context is long gone and they're just stepping on someone's promo. Or "Husky Harris" for Bray like we don't know. I get the intent behind chanting for Punk- especially in Chicago- but either he's really not there, or it's a total work and he'll show up soon. There's a difference between those coming to actually support CM Punk's "cause", but just about as many just like the idea of disrupting the show. Wouldn't matter what the chant was.

That's what annoys me. Two wrestlers can be having a good match and some shithead fans decide to act like dickheads and chant "randy savage" during their match. Just shut up. If you hate the product that much than don't go.

I am a diehard Blue Jays fan, and when they were just half assing it, I didn't watch or go to games anymore. Wasn't going to waste my time. I didn't pay $100 for a ticket, pay for parking and food just to go crap on everything and ruin it for people who actually wanted to watch. It makes zero sense.

You can't really compare it to real sports. These guys go with the express purpose of "being part of the show" and really the WWE encourages that mentality (e.g. Making a big deal out of the post-Mania crowd). They see crowds like that and want to replicate it even if they don't really understand why they're doing it.

It's all well and good booing and shitting on Orton/Batista because you have a legit gripe that you're bored of Orton as champion/upset that Batista has walked back into a main event role/annoyed that Bryan isn't in the title hunt/fed up that we're getting the same old shit, not pushing new guys, etc. however, it all falls apart when you do it during Wyatt/Reigns - two new guys they are trying to push.

If they were really having a good match the fans wouldn't be chanting against it.

See Cesaro/Zayn.

You do have that mentality to an extent: the 12th man, the Black Hole. Some sports teams fans are just shitty fans : my Leafs for example

Theyw were chanting against a very good match in Del Rio vs Kingston and didn't Christian vs Sheamus on Smackdown get chanted? As did Reigns vs Wyatt on Raw.

They only derail matches when they are the same old shit they shove down the fans throat.

Cena/Orton
Orton/Sheamus.

Del/Rio Kingston, Sheamus and Christian have been done to death like the rest.

Del Rio vs Kingston I thought was fantastic. So was Sheamus vs Christian.

So basically as long as the two wrestlers are IWC darlings then they can fight 10,000 times?

Ever think that the fans are just fucking faggots wanting to start stupid chants just so they can brag on messageboards or to their smark douchebag friends?

Explain Wyatt vs Reigns? Exactly. Now pull your pants down and present your asshole to me.

You can't take the crowd for granted or ask them to turn on a dime.

I will shoot anyone who starts a Husky Harris chant. I don't know what that is supposed to achieve for anybody.

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Finguts and Gertner,

You guys both makes excellent points, but here is why I do relate to CM Punk on some level:

While I agree with Fignuts that Punk has been given a lot and it probably was wrong of him to walk out, the fact of the matter is that he's an independent contractor; not an employee. He is free to do what he wants, and if he's saved enough money, then he can come and leave as he chooses.......especially when the WWE themselves have a tendency to treat their "employees" like chess pieces.

I also suspect that CM Punk isn't particularly upset over not being in the main-event. He has gone on record saying that this is Bryan's year. Punk seems to be upset over the fact that certain part-time wrestlers do not nothing for years on end, and then suddenly come back around the Rumble and end up main-eventing Mania'.

Punk doesn't have issues with guys like Taker, Triple H, and Brock (yet), but appears to resent how they've used Batista.

I honestly don't blame Punk one bit here.

There is 0 chance of that happening. At the end of the day we're all marks to one degree or another.

The guys in the stands chanting for Punk will be there til the very last second just in case he does make a return. Imagine being the guy that missed Punk's big return in Chicago cos you were trying to make a statement about him walking out/not being used right. You'd be like those guys that leave a sports match to beat the traffic with their team down only for them to make a miraculous comeback...and you walked away from that moment.

I think this is the thing here: If WWE goes after Punk on this issue, it could easily give Punk the ability to pull a Raven. And he wouldn't be outside the statute of limitations, like Raven was.

STD hears what he wants to hear. That Wyatt vs Reigns crowd was white hot and Ryback never got more than crickets until the audience felt guilty.

I wish I was at a show where people staged a walkout, I'd get up out of my seat and take front row on and soak it all in.

Do I agree with everything they are doing? No, never had, but I can't invest any hate into something I make time to enjoy in this time of my life. I know Batista is not deserving of his "spot", but we haven't even made it to Wrestlemania yet and people are shooting their dicks off already. If the show is poop then by all means, crap all over it.

I've been to a fair share of RAWs to know that a full arena walkout is near to impossible. Not everyone is there for workrate and all that crap. I'm optimistic that a new era similar to the extreme/attitude era will come about again. I went to WCW when the WWF was at a low, TNA is a wannabe alternative with good wrestling, but no sense of staying with storylines. Something extraordinary is needed for them to pull anyone away from the WWE, I think that is why they are trying everything out.

WWE has the fans over a barrel on the Batista issue: We booed him, so they turned him heel. Now our boos suddenly make sense, and Dave is seen as "uber over" in his role.


I continually refer back to this Vince McMahon quote: "Cheer me if you want. Boo me if you must. But don't just sit there quietly."

It was pretty late in the 3 hour card and they were tired?

If the product was better thought out and engaging, these things wouldn't happen and if they ever did, wouldn't be a problem. The reason why good matches get shit on is because the rest of the product sucks, and the company is out of touch with what reaches the people.

Like if I was in Punk's position, why wouldn't I be thinking to myself,

"Well ok, I'm a pretty big star. I've busted my ass the last few years and guys like Rocky and Batista just waltz in and are in the main-event. Rocky might be justifiable since he was one of the biggest stars of all-time, but Batista? Why don't *I* just do what Batista did? Sit at home. Rest, recouperate, and then come back when the time is right for a huge Wrestlemania payoff. It's the American way. It's the WWE way. Why should I bust my butt for years' on end only to have part-time guys take over the main-event? Why don't I be like that?"

I agree to a large extent.

I don't think the product sucks too much, but this current 'Authority/Bryan' angle/storyline is quite possibly the most intriguing thing that the WWE has done in over 10 years.

At the same time, the WWE hasn't had this many promising young stars ready to ascend to the next level since 1997 and 2003.

I'd like to think that the WWE has some kind of plan in place to do the obvious thing, but it's tough to say how they're thinking right now?

Either they are trying very hard to be as realistic as possible while keeping the smarks and IWC guessing, or they truly are extremely retarded and out of touch.

These next few months will be very telling............and could be one of the most crucial months in WWE history.

Neither do I. I don't understand the "he should have honored his contract" stance at all. He's not guaranteed that money. He's also not guaranteed to work every show or get PPV payoffs. If Vince saw it necessary, he could release any wrestler, including Punk, and send them on their way. It works both ways, though. If Punk doesn't like where he, as a character, or the company is going, he has the right to walk out. Just like Austin did. Just like any of the guys on the roster do.

As far as the upcoming Chicago crowd goes, I hope they don't shit on everything. Really, outside of Batista, everyone else on the roster deserves better than to have their segments/matches hijacked. Hell, I even feel bad for Batista. It's not like he held the WWE for ransom, demanding a title shot upon returning. It was a decision made by Vince, Triple H and co.. If anyone should be getting shit on and their segments hijacked, it should be Triple H. Bats is unfortunately getting the brunt of it more so for what he represents than anything he's actually responsible for.

Can is IWC get off Punk's dick for a second and think about something here...

Punk left the company after he was set up for a match at WrestleMania and after a PPV payday. Was Punk over? Yea. Would a random return for Punk cause a huge pop? Of course. Is it completely WWE's fault that CM Punk didn't like how things were going so Punk took his ball like a spoiled child and went home? No.

CM Punk left WWE. WWE has reached out to Punk. Punk has put up a proverbial iron curtain because he is a douche.

He knows they will lie to him tell him things will be better and push guys like Daniel Bryan and he'll come back and then nothing will change. He's been given the runaround before and nothing changed.

He didn't just leave because he didn't like his spot in the company which is different than Austin. Austin left because of one match with Brock where he didn't want to go over with no build.

Put yourself in Punk's shoes:

You've busted your ass for years' on end gunning to be the top guy in the company, and then all of a sudden, some gay washed up 45 year old shows up after a 4 year absence and is gifted the main-event spot at Mania'...........not only at the expense of yourself, but possibly at the expense of one of your best friends' in Daniel Bryan.

In my mind, I would be thinking, "Why should I continue to bust my ass? Why not do what Batista did? Sit out, rest, and then around January of 2015 or 2016 sometime, send out a feeler to the WWE. Get back in the company - have a huge Wrestlemania match - get a big payoff - and then go back to doing dick all for the rest of the year.

If the WWE rewards this kind of stuff, and slaps the faces of everyone else that has busted their butts for an entire year, then why shouldn't I just be like Batista, Lesnar, Taker, Rocky, and Hunter?

I think the whole situation is beautiful, to be honest. The fans appreciate people that absolutely love and have a passion for the business. They can tell the difference between someone that loves what this is and somebody that wants a paycheck. The WWE can undermine their hardcore fanship in hopes of getting more casual eyes on the product all they want, but that doesn't mean that everybody has to be happy and just accept whatever they are given. It's honestly poetic justice.

Once again, they aren't necessarily in the wrong for wanting more money at the expense of hardcore fans, but there is a price to pay for everything.

You are shitting all over avid viewers of your product when you make 90% of what happened during the year not matter going into the biggest show of the year. You want to see people you've taken a journey with. Having all of these part time guys have the biggest spots at mania is basically saying "None of what you invested in matters at all in the slightest. We are going to do what we want."

I think Bryan is primed for a 2-3 match set at Wrestlemania, I just feel like that.

The CM Punk situation will either die completely build-wise after RAW or he'll come back Monday.

If it is indeed Orton vs Batista then by all means I will help you all out and shit on it with you

Wouldn't this be the best segment in WWE history?............or close to it:

On RAW is Chicago - Triple H accepts Daniel Bryan's challenge with the following caveat: The match won't take place at Wrestlemania since HHH doesn't respect Bryan enough............the match will take place TONIGHT. Triple H wants to put an end to the non-sense.

If Triple H wins - Daniel Bryan doesn't get a title shot for 2 years. If Bryan wins, he gets inserted into the triple threat match.

At the end of RAW - Bryan/HHH have their match. During match, Kane tries to interfere............but then CM PUNK'S MUSIC HITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Punk comes out, nails Kane, nails Triple H, and Bryan hits his finisher on HHH for the 1..................2..........................3.

At Mania', Punk goes against Hunter, while Bryan goes against Orton and Batista.

Think that would go over pretty well?

Even if Bryan gets his moment, was it really worth all of this? I mean jesus.

Jabba's "little Timmy" analogy is quite perfect.

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I'd be down with that. My optimistic self is holding out for a change to the main event. That would be a changing of the guard if Bryan beat Orton/Batista. There's plenty of time for this to happen.

I'll consider Orton/Batista 1v1 just Rock/Cena part 3 and not take it seriously.

Honestly. This situation is akin to if you worked for an office and at the end of every year the top employees were invited to some exclusive all-expenses-paid corporate party in San Diego or something. You work the entire year, get the highest performance marks, are constantly praised by all of your other employees for being the best, and get employee of the day for 400 something days in a row... But then instead of getting the invitation at the end of the year, they give it instead to a seasonal employee who is completely ill-prepared for the job and is best friends with your boss.

Technically, they can do whatever they want and invite whoever they want. But it is a rather shitty thing to do. Not only that, but it can't really even be justified from a performance standpoint.

Or, maybe more so. You get invited but the seasonal employee gets exponentially better accommodations and stays in the presidential suite.

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I'd be happy with that.

Although you're working on the assumption that Punk would be happy with that; that his gripe is that guys who bust their ass all year round and are over like rover (Daniel Bryan) are being bumped for guys like Batista. I'm firmly behind Punk if he's going to bat for D-Bry, not so much if he's just working himself into the Main Event.

Don't forget, reports suggest that Punk wasn't happy with a match vs. HHH at Mania and that in part lead to be walk out. Would he come back to have that match on the understanding that Bryan goes into the ME?

To be real, I didn't fault Rocks part-timeness because it made great business sense and it was a match we'd never thought we'd see. Cool. They did two, that was more than enough.

Batista coming back for one Raw, then winning the rumble, when DB was that white hot was a bit of a head scratcher. Bats is no Rock, not even close. But hey, whatever.

I don't even care anymore.

BUT IF HEATH IS NOT ON THE MANIA CARD, SO HELP ME GOD...

Lol and how can you tell who has a passion? It's a bunch of whiny fags purposely going to the show with the sole purpose of ruining it for everyone else.

Kinda hope they troll the crowd by playing Punk's music only to have Barrett rise up on his podium to deliver some baaaaad neeeeeeeeewwwws.

Chanting husky harris accomplishes nothing. Fans actually dig the angle and are only trying to chant it to get themselves over.
The best thing for Bryan is for him to beat HHH clean and have HHH shake is hand after.

That would be evil as fuck. I like that

That tweet he posted around the time he left suggests he was legit about leaving. He usually posted in his gimmick format of not caring/comics

The biggest flub in the Daniel Bryan storyline was him not winning at "Hell in a cell" even if they wanted to do Cena vs Orton @ TLC, DB should have won at HAIC then lost at SS in a triple threat with orton and show. Wyatts could have interfered setting up that feud.

kinda like when hbk had bret's music play when they were in montreal several years back. its on youtube somewhere

I'm not going to take you seriously if you continue with your "lol everyone is a fag" troll mode. You sure are an odd guy sometimes. Lots of people aren't happy with the business right now and it isn't unreasonable for people to let them know about it. It was kind of nuts for them to ignore everybody in the first place, to be honest. And now they have a situation on their hands. This was such an avoidable calamity. They chose to caiter to casuals and that's fine really, but it doesn't come without consequences. They had to have known there was going to be at least SOME backlash for the Batista rumble thing and if they didn't, they aren't paying attention. They will probably make a bit more money for doing what they did, but now they have lots of angry fans to deal with. That's what they chose and now they have to deal with it.

If you "hate watching WWE anymore" then why are you still doing it? Take your own advice and don't add to their profit by watching their product and boosting their ratings. I agree with you that they'd be better off just not buying tickets or not watching RAW if they really wanted to make a difference, but if you're that disgusted by them chanting "CM PUNK" then you could just do the same. Besides, they paid for their ticket it's their right to chant whatever they want to.

Ruining it for everyone else or ruining it for you? Those chants get going through huge sections of the arenas, man. Fact is a lot of fans loved Punk and want him back. Just because you don't doesn't mean that they should shut up. Oh and those chants aren't just from "whiny fags" or "30 year old virgins". Listen to them and look at the crowds and you'll see that their are plenty of people joining in besides the IWC. Besides, if you can't ignore them and enjoy the show for yourself then you honestly are the whiny one. Don't like the product? Don't tune in. I mean that's what you're telling them to do isn't it Gerty?

My opinion on this is the correct one but you have to call my hotline 1-900-Rasslin. $2.99 for the first minute 99cents each additional minute. Get your parents permission and call 1-900-rasslin.

I called and entered my card info. All I got was Tatanka's war cry, then got disconnected.

You have to listen to that for three minutes before my report comes on. Keep calling.

the Shisen Kopf hotline? :shifty:

I guess that would explain why no matches late in a PPV ever have hot crowds.

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Here's why I have zero problem with Batista in the main event: Heel Batista is far and away the best heel in the company and probably the best heel in a decade. He's a better heel than Punk and his heel character is better than Punk as a face. He's also wrestling pretty much a full time schedule including the house show circuit.

Yes the 5 percent that don't matter

It's pretty stupid to bitch and moan about the "top performer" from an in-ring standpoint getting a certain spot on the card though. There is no "he's earned it" in wrestling. There's only what's gonna make people tune in. If you're the "best performer" in the business (assuming your definition of "best performer" is putting on the best technical matches and not drawing people to tune in for any reason at all) but the company decides your appeal to the casual fan is limited, YOU HAVEN'T EARNED IT. There's a spot on the card for you. Your ability to put on great matches in valuable. Marks are gonna watch you compete and enjoy your matches and if the booking is right and the casual fan is invested in a build, they're gonna enjoy them too. You're qualified for all of those needs. None of that instantly makes you qualified to hold the title and be on top in the script.

Now maybe they fucked up and overestimated how much people would love Batista and his effect of bringing in the casual viewer. That doesn't justify anyone else deserving the spot. That just means they fucked up with him.

Do you mean specifically this main event? Because I definitely have a problem with him being in this main event. Mainly because he's challenging a guy who is also a heel... in the main event of WrestleMania. Leaving literally no one for marks OR casual fans to root for.

I truly believe Bryan is going in.

There's no friggen way they'd end Wrestlemania with a heel vs heel matchup.

This is what they don't get. If it were up the group chanting at Raw thered be no Cena, Batista, Orton, Sheamus and NOBODY WOULD WATCH!!!!

Complain about Batista all you want, but his return did a 3.5 rating, higher than post Rumble, higher than Hogan, Taker return, and I'm guessing the highest rating since Raw post Wrestlemania.

I don't think Bryan's going in after how he made him vs. Triple H come off as THE match everyone really wants.

I honestly think, as crazy as it sounds, they might turn Orton face.

I was thinking about that watching Smackdown tonight as well.

Heather Slater and Tyla Breeze: Ginger Transexuals!

I completely agree with this.

Hence - why I believe we'll ultimately see Daniel Bryan in the main-event.

Orton by himself, won't be a strong enough face even if the WWE somehow tries to position him that way after all these months.

I would be shocked if it wasn't Orton vs Batista vs Bryan.

I feel like Batista is being shit on so much right now and is so good at being a douchebag that with the right booking they could make the crowd go from shitting on the match to shitting specifically on Batista and wanting so badly to see Mr. "Deal with it" lose that they actually get invested in the outcome of the match. I mean... it wasn't that long ago that Orton was over and getting the crowd hot for him while he was involved in nothing more than meaningless matches with guys like Jack Swagger. If they turn him face and have him stand across the ring as the only guy stopping Batista from going to Raw the next night and laughing in the crowd's face with the title held high above his head bragging, it COULD work.

But like I said, it would take good, meticulous booking from here to WrestleMania to make it work. I'm not sure they can do it.

The first step would be trying to build Orton back up the best they can because the amount that he has jobbed over the past couple months is fucking retarded and doesn't make the guy feel like a champion.

Based off Batista's promo on Smackdown he seems like he's going after Bryan. I like the idea of two heels fighting amoungst each other with Bryan going after both.

This is so far off. Jesus Christ. If Bryan wins the belt at Wrestlemania I highly doubt that people will be like" awesome he won! But wait,I'm not happy how he was booked during Summerslam."

Nobody will care. Nobody.

So it makes less sense than "the WWE sucks balls so I'm going to spend $100 on a ticket, plus parking and driving there just so I can bitch the entire time".

Yes, God forbid I can watch Raw without dickheads chanting "Husky Harris".

I like the product, so you're so far off. But continue not listening my 400 pound friend.

Who is Little Timmy in that analogy? Daniel Bryan the man, Daniel Bryan the character or Daniel Bryan's fans?

If it's his fans and you're saying "they'd be happy to finally get their wish of Bryan as champion (the bike) but wouldn't get over the emotional scarring of having to deal with watching their favorite wrestler lose in the months prior"... then lol.

If it's Bryan the man and you're saying "he'd be happy to finally get the title (the bike) but wouldn't get over the emotional scarring his wrestling character went through"... then lol.

If it's Bryan the character and you're saying "He'd be happy to win the title (bike) but wouldn't get over the emotional scarring of being screwed out of it all those months"... then that would be a hilarious angle. Honestly, Bryan being a mopey little bitch and coming out the next night on Raw with a frown, sitting down in the middle of the ring with the title while the crowd cheers him and just taking the mic and saying "I'm too hurt to enjoy this. I'm emotionally drained. I can't share your joy" would actually make me want to see him as champion.

"Sorry guys, just can't get over not being in the Royal Rumble. I'm a sad panda".

Sometimes it doesn't matter how you get from Point A to Point B as long as you get there. Christ, Vince thought he was going to be a face after screwing Bret. The situation was a mess and it led to the biggest angle in history.