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CBright7831 05-17-2004 08:38 PM

Official RAW Thread (5/17/04)
 
An opportunity to win the biggest prize in sports entertainment highlights Monday’s RAW, as a 20-Man Over-The-Top-Rope Battle Royal will determine who faces Chris Benoit at the Bad Blood pay-per-view event on June 13. In what will be a virtual RAW all-star team in the ring at one time, only one man can emerge as the No. 1 contender. Who will it be? Below is a list of all 20 Superstars signed on to compete in the battle royal:


Also last week, in yet another exchange between Kane and Lita, it was revealed that Kane made a proposition to Lita. Kane demanded an answer this coming week in San Diego and threatened that Lita “better make the right decision.” What is this proposition that Kane made and what will Lita decide? Will this decision affect her match with Trish Stratus next week? Tune in to find out.

All of this, as well as the fallout from a blockbuster Monday Night RAW last week at 9/8 PM CT Monday night on Spike TV.

Savio 05-17-2004 08:39 PM

Where is GMS!?!?!? j/k Its sad that he is gone though. (I posted before KIYF)

Marc the Smark 05-17-2004 08:39 PM

Isn't it kind of early?

Savio 05-17-2004 08:40 PM

20 mins early but....

Marc the Smark 05-17-2004 08:41 PM

no big deal, just sayin'...

CBright7831 05-17-2004 08:46 PM

I need to fix the clock on my computer.

Wondermouse 05-17-2004 08:47 PM

Preidction: Kane wins.

OssMan 05-17-2004 08:48 PM

Why don't you just look at the TPWW clock

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 08:48 PM

Yes, Maven is back!!!!!!I think I'm the only Maven fan here, but whatever.

Orton is going to take this, I just know it.

Wondermouse 05-17-2004 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
I just no it.

Freudian slip, eh?

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 08:51 PM

^^^huh :shifty:

The Ravishing One 05-17-2004 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Yes, Maven is back!!!!!!I think I'm the only Maven fan here, but whatever.

Orton is going to take this, I just know it.


Is there any other wrestler's you wanna admit to liking while you're at it?

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 08:56 PM

LC's favorite current wrestlers list:

Orton
Nitro
Maven
Mordecai
Dupre
Christian

OssMan 05-17-2004 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
LC's favorite current wrestlers list:

Orton
Nitro
Maven
Mordecai
Dupre
Christian
Jindrak


The Ravishing One 05-17-2004 08:58 PM

Wheres Eugene you insensitive bastard.

The Ravishing One 05-17-2004 08:58 PM

:rant:

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 08:58 PM

lol, Jindrack is ok, but he's got no charisma

The Ravishing One 05-17-2004 09:01 PM

LOL, first glance at the picture i thought Rhyno was Bret Hart. The maniac.
http://raw.wwe.com/images/20man.jpg

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 09:02 PM

lmao, Well I thought Maven was THE Coach. And I thought Nitro was Steven Richards, but then I saw Richards.

CBright7831 05-17-2004 09:05 PM

A Superstar's Chances of Winning:
 
WWE.com's predictions:

Rhyno:
Rhyno is no stranger to competing for a World Championship. In fact, the Detroit native was the last man to hold the ECW World Heavyweight Championship, before the company folded in early 2001. That said, a victory on Monday night may not be completely out of the question. While Rhyno has struggled a bit since returning from injury, his low center of gravity may help him in this match and get his World Heavyweight Championship aspirations back on course.

Edge:
Upon arriving to WWE after a lengthy absence, Edge looked noticeably different. The normally svelte, yet muscular, Canadian had put on several pounds of muscle. Never before had Edge looked so big. This added size will undoubtedly help Edge in this match, where the bigger you are, the better chance of winning you have. However, just imagine for a moment if Edge actually does win. Can we be staring a Chris Benoit/Edge Bad Blood main event right in the eyes? This could get interesting.

Ric Flair:
Normally, expecting a man of Ric Flair's age to win a battle royal would be out of the question. Ric Flair, however, is anything but normal. Unlike many other professional athletes, Flair seems to get better with age. The 16-time World Champion may not be in the top three to win this match, but if he does, don't be surprised. The only caveat would be whether the Nature Boy will sacrifice his chances of victory in an attempt to help fellow Evolution teammate Triple H in his quest to capture the World Heavyweight Championship.

Rosey:
Chris Benoit vs. Rosey in the main event at Bad Blood with the World Heavyweight Championship on the line. It could happen. In fact, this may be Rosey's most serious shot at the World Heavyweight Championship to date. While a Benoit/Rosey main event seems tough to imagine, it may be even tougher to find a Superstar that can lift the gigantic Rosey over the top rope. Undoubtedly, this is Rosey's biggest chance at greatness. Will he take advantage?

Hurricane:
Despite being WWE's resident superhero, this match does not extenuate Hurricane's positives. With just under 200 pounds of weight on his 6-foot frame, Hurricane may be ripe for picking off. While anything is possible when it comes to the Hurricane, it is hard to imagine that he will be able to avoid the likes of Kane, Triple H and Batista. In a match where size dwarfs speed, Hurricane may be in trouble.

Matt Hardy:
Matt Hardy may be one of the toughest Superstars to handicap for the upcoming battle royal. The former European Champion had little luck upon signing with RAW several months ago. However, his in-ring success has been growing as of late. With Matt on a bit of a roll, does he have what it takes to outlast 19 other RAW Superstars? Unfortunately for Matt, outlasting 19 others will not be his only concern. Just as he and Lita have begun to put their lives back together, Kane has interfered. The Big Red Monster has made Lita the object of his affection. With Kane being one of the 20 men competing in this battle royal, Matt's focus may be divided between winning the match and destroying Kane. Can Matt separate business from personal?

Shelton Benjamin:
Nobody thought Shelton Benjamin had what it took to beat Triple H, but he did ... twice. Nobody thought Shelton Benjamin had what it took to beat the legendary Ric Flair on pay-per-view, but he did. Now, some people are underestimating Shelton Benjamin's ability to win the 20-man over-the-top-rope battle royal. Come Monday night, those people may be forced to eat their words.

Triple H:
Triple H combines a genuine passion for the World Heavyweight Championship with an unmatched in-ring ability and three other Evolution members to be considered one of the odds-on favorites to win Monday's battle royal.

Steven Richards:
Seeing as it has been over a year since Steven Richards has had a pay-per-view match, the chances of him actually main eventing Bad Blood seem very slim. However, weirder things have happened.

Christian:
The young Christian's career is on a rise of meteoric proportions. The only hiccup he has been faced with recently was a loss to Chris Jericho in a Steel Cage Match on Monday Night RAW. Other than that, his budding relationship with Trish Stratus and having the "problem solver" Tyson Tomko by his side has made Christian one of the top RAW Superstars. Is a Bad Blood main event in his future?

Johnny Nitro:
While Johnny Nitro may be a great apprentice to Eric Bischoff, he may not have what it takes to outlast 19 of RAW's finest. There is no doubt that he will have an amazing career at some point in the future, but the future is not now for Nitro. Should he end up winning the battle royal, it would have to be considered one of the biggest upsets in recent WWE history. Also, some serious underhanded maneuvers would have to take place. Don't put it past him or his boss Eric Bischoff. An extra official may have to be stationed ringside just to keep an eye on Nitro.

Batista:
Size and strength wins battle royals. A great example of this would be Andre the Giant. Andre's amazing battle royal record earned him the moniker "King of the Battle Royals." While not quite the size of Andre, Batista possesses an unmatched amount of strength. This level of strength may take Batista to the winner's circle and the Bad Blood main event.

Val Venis:
Val Venis can win the battle royal. He has the athletic ability to do so. The only question is whether he actually will win the battle royal. It has been some time since fans have see the Val Venis that held the Intercontinental Championship. The battle royal may be the perfect place for the old Venis to break out again. Can the Big Valbowski make a splash in the battle royal?

Chris Jericho:
Chris Jericho is a former World Champion. For him to gain this level of success again is not out of the question. In fact, his recent victory over Christian in a Steel Cage Match may be one of his most impressive in recent history. Now the only question is whether this momentum will carry him past 19 other RAW Superstars. Some say it will, while others question if it is enough. Either way, Jericho is definitely one of the favorites to walk away with the win.

Garrison Cade
Garrison Cade knows a thing or two about being the underdog. He has played this role ever since entering WWE. Come Monday night, he will be asked to play the underdog once again, as he steps into the ring with the likes of Triple H, Kane and Christian. Many think that the young Cade may not have enough matches under his belt to survive such a brutal bout. We'll see if this Cinderella tale has a storybook ending on Monday night. knows a thing or two about being the underdog. He has played this role ever since entering WWE. Come Monday night, he will be asked to play the underdog once again, as he steps into the ring with the likes of Triple H, Kane and Christian. Many think that the young Cade may not have enough matches under his belt to survive such a brutal bout. We'll see if this Cinderella tale has a storybook ending on Monday night.

Kane:
Kane's size and strength give him an obvious advantage going into the battle royal. However, the big man does have a target on chest, a target that has been put there as a result of personal reasons. For Matt Hardy, eliminating Kane is more about defending Lita than it is about actually winning the battle royal. When these types of emotions are involved, there is no telling what the outcome may be. If Kane is successful in fending off Hardy, then he should be one of the favorites to go all the way.

Rob Conway:
Does anybody like Rob Conway? In a time where patriotism is almost a religion, the last thing this country needs is an American turncoat. But that is what Conway is. Chances are Conway will be the target of every American in the ring on Monday night, making him a tough Superstar to pick to win the whole thing.

Sylvain Grenier:
Like Rob Conway, Sylvain Grenier's chances are slim. While not an American turncoat, Grenier is equally disliked. Look for him to be ousted quickly by a large number of Americans.

Randy Orton:
Don't bet against Randy Orton. Not only has this third-generation Superstar climbed every mountain that he has been faced with, but he has done so in very impressive fashion. Couple that with three other members of Evolution participating in the match and we may be looking at an all Evolution final four. Who would win that one? Will it really be every man for himself? This could get interesting.

Maven:
Maven's future looked bright. He found himself sharing the ring with legends like Ric Flair and Shawn Michaels. Then injury struck. Maven hasn't been seen by RAW audiences in a long time, but on Monday night, he will be making his long-awaited return to the ring. Will there be ring rust? Can he pick up where he left off? In most cases, you would think not. But with Maven, anything is possible. Can the first chapter of Maven's return conclude with a battle royal victory? If so, it would make for a great story.

Batsu 05-17-2004 09:35 PM

I wondered what happened to Maven.

I was watching some WWE programming from the time that Maven was in that feud with the Undertaker (stemming from the Dropkick of Doom that eliminated Taker from the Royal Rumble)...

The Ravishing One 05-17-2004 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CBright7831
Can the first chapter of Maven's return conclude with a battle royal victory? If so, it would make for a great story.

:nono:

We know he's not gonna be doing it.

The Ravishing One 05-17-2004 09:38 PM

Why do they waste their/our time.

Gone Mad 05-17-2004 09:53 PM

This is a pretty good Battle Royale,judging from the top five in there: Jeriko,Kane,HHH, Benjamin,and Orton. Also for the fact that Jonathan Nitro will fight for once and maybe a couple of GORES by Rhyno (with at least one or two on Edgeward). And does that pic of Grenier look like they just added that hat on him? Looks ridiculous,like it's there to show he's the French guy.

CBright7831 05-17-2004 09:57 PM

It like how they make people like Val Venis or Rosey sound like viable contenders for the title.

Wondermouse 05-17-2004 10:03 PM

BATISTA/ORTON FOR TAG CHAMPS

AWWWWWWW YEAH

Savio 05-17-2004 10:04 PM

WIll lita says yes find out next on RAW!!!!!!!

Fryza 05-17-2004 10:06 PM

I never want to hear JR says "Time to get RAW" ever again.

Fryza 05-17-2004 10:11 PM

Trish is carrying this match so badly..

BAH GAWD TWIST OF FATE.

Wondermouse 05-17-2004 10:12 PM

That wasn't horrible.

Deceit 05-17-2004 10:13 PM

Looks like they're sticking with the Lita/Matt/Kane program? This battle royal is interesting me more and more

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:17 PM

***BOWS DOWN

Fryza 05-17-2004 10:17 PM

Elf ears.

Evil Vito 05-17-2004 10:17 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Get LC about 50 towels</font>

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:18 PM

Woah, my cannon is loose

CBright7831 05-17-2004 10:18 PM

Wait a second, The Rock held the IC title longer than Orton did in the last seven years. I'm almost sure of it.

Fryza 05-17-2004 10:19 PM

No, dun make it about Triple H. Dun do it.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:19 PM

WTF TALKING about HHH. What is this?

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:20 PM

ASSHOLE ALERT

Evil Vito 05-17-2004 10:20 PM

<font color=goldenrod>*Would mark out if it's down to HHH and Orton in the battle royal and then suddenly Orton turns on HHH, RKOs him, and tosses him out*</font>

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:20 PM

So when is the WWE gonna make up their minds? Is Orton gonna fued with Edge or Benjamin over the title?

Fryza 05-17-2004 10:21 PM

Ja Rule's beaten H twice.

Deceit 05-17-2004 10:21 PM

Shelton needs mic work...

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:22 PM

RKO RKO RKO RKO RKO RKO RKO RKO PLEASE

Evil Vito 05-17-2004 10:22 PM

<font color=goldenrod>WTF, someone has a sign with a swastika on it</font> :|

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:22 PM

will LC lose his boner when Shelton kicks orton's ass...?

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:23 PM

OOOOOOOOO you people?

Deceit 05-17-2004 10:24 PM

HAHAHA OH SHIT! I can just imagine all of the phone calls WWE is getting right about now.

Fryza 05-17-2004 10:24 PM

That was horrible.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:24 PM

SON OF A BI***

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:25 PM

Shelton needs mic work, but I think he is better in the ring than alot of people currently on the roster. I kinda think he's better than Orton based on talent in the ring. But that's just my opinion.

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:26 PM

LOL ORTON GOT SERVED!

CBright7831 05-17-2004 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deceit03
HAHAHA OH SHIT! I can just imagine all of the phone calls WWE is getting right about now.

"That's what is wrong with you people."

OssMan 05-17-2004 10:26 PM

Here's how it will go down:

Shelton and Orton get involved with each other in the Battle Royal, they both eliminate each other, get mad, they fight at Bad Blood.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:27 PM

OK, who wants to bet Shelton gets RKO'ed in the Battle Royal?

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:28 PM

lol, wtf?

CBright7831 05-17-2004 10:28 PM

LOL, they ****ed up.

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:28 PM

WTF is up with the Batista/Tajiri match from last week?

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:28 PM

did I just see Batista and Tajiri in the ring?

Savio 05-17-2004 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vito 22
<font color=goldenrod>WTF, someone has a sign with a swastika on it</font> :|

I saw that....damn I was gonna say something.

OssMan 05-17-2004 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior
I saw that....damn I was gonna say something.

same

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
OK, who wants to bet Shelton gets RKO'ed in the Battle Royal?


Not me! Benjamin rules!!!!

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:29 PM

I gald that Shelton Benjamin is utalizing the Stingers Splash.

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:29 PM

MARKS OUT FOR EUGENE!

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:29 PM

god, those tag titles really suck.

Fryza 05-17-2004 10:29 PM

Lol "Monday Night Rawr"

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Show Off
I gald that Shelton Benjamin is utalizing the Stingers Splash.


He's been doing it for awhile now....

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:30 PM

Nick Dinsmore is really good at playing a simpelton, Dustin Hoffman ain't got shit on Nick Dinsmore.

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BasicThuganomics
He's been doing it for awhile now....

Yeah I know, I was just mentioning that I'm glad he does it.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:31 PM

Yeah, he's got the gimmick down pat.

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:32 PM

hey bischoff used Owen's phrase didn't he?

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Show Off
Yeah I know, I was just mentioning that I'm glad he does it.


I actually misread it, I thought that you were just now noticing it. Sorry about that.

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:34 PM

If I have to see Shawn Michaels as a face for any longer I might throw up with how devistatingly boring he is. He used to be the show stopper now as in a puts on breath taking matches, not he's the show stopper as he he stops the flow of the show when he shows up with his born again ass.

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:34 PM

What band is that in the commercial for Transformers for PS2?

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BasicThuganomics
I actually misread it, I thought that you were just now noticing it. Sorry about that.

No reason to appologize.

Savio 05-17-2004 10:35 PM

Oh yeah someone sticky it.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:36 PM

Your HERO was just here.

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:37 PM

Taz should come out right now and feud with Kane for the right to wear a towel on your head in your intrest.... Kane has been getting away with this shit for two long.

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:37 PM

I don't mind Shawn Micheals as a face. I don't even mind him fueding with HHH if its gonna mean that HHH is out of the title picture at least. Plus even if we have seen him fight HHH a few dozen times in the last couple of years, the two of them fighting in Hell in a Cell will no doubt be an awesome match.

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:37 PM

Remember when Val was cool?

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:38 PM

Does anybody else miss Val Venis in the Intercontinental title picture? I hope the just deside to send Val to Smackdown so he can feud with Cean or someone...

Shadow 05-17-2004 10:38 PM

Say goodbye to Matt Hardy

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:39 PM

VVV 1 UHHHHH!

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:39 PM

Why can Shane get the upperhand on Kane, but never Matt?

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:40 PM

Now I geuss Lita is about to come down....

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:40 PM

He better not be going for a car battery...

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Why can Shane get the upperhand on Kane, but never Matt?


Because Shane is a DAREDEVIL!!!!

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:41 PM

Geez even the people in the audience were looking down the ramp for Lita to come down...

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:41 PM

lol.

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:41 PM

God damn it more bad acting.... This is like a troma film...

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Show Off
He better not be going for a car battery...


:lol:

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:41 PM

he's gonna rape her

Dragoneyes 05-17-2004 10:41 PM

just what we need another love triangle involving kane

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:42 PM

HAHA Kane's gonna get some tonite ya'll!

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:42 PM

Yes, More Orton. My day has come

The Show Off 05-17-2004 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BasicThuganomics
Because Shane is a DAREDEVIL!!!!

So Daredevils can get the upper hand on Kane.... I smell a Jeff Hardy return then.... Kane v. Jeff Hardy smell the ratings...

BasicThuganomics 05-17-2004 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragoneyes
just what we need another love triangle involving kane


At least this girl is alive?

Deceit 05-17-2004 10:43 PM

"Taz should come out right now and feud with Kane for the right to wear a towel on your head in your intrest.... Kane has been getting away with this shit for two long."

LOL definite rep for that hahaha

Loose Cannon 05-17-2004 10:43 PM

Shane's also the "Boyhood Wonder"

Dragoneyes 05-17-2004 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
Why can Shane get the upperhand on Kane, but never Matt?

do you really have to ask??? :roll: :-\


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