Poll about Brock Lesnar: Eater, Sleeper and CONQUEROR
 

Who should conquer Brock Lesnar's title reign?

CM Punk obviously

dean ambrose via talent

Other.

Christian, right?

Reigns only if it occurs at Mania. Too early to give him the belt anytime soon.

The Beast Vs. the Beard. Daniel Bryan should do it if he is cleared.

Sting would be cool and would make one hell of a draw at Night of Champions

Or course.

Also, *SPOILER ALERT* Listen to the next edition of TLP for my recap of RVD in Australia, Lock Jaw. You may be surprised with what I have to see.

Bryan or Ambrose.

WHEN IT REIGNS IT POURS!

Ambrose would be interesting if the WWE wanted to push him to that level. So crazy that he doesn't know that he is outclassed, so crazy that he doesn't know when to give up, so crazy that Lesnar can't "deal" with his "lunatic fringe" style.

How disappointing would it be if this just led to a Cena/Lesnar rematch for the title at WM31?

Tie Flair at Mania? Ugh.

I would like to choose "No one."

Brock Lesnar is our eternal leader and king now. No one can stop him.

If anything, that's kind of the corner they've booked themselves into. I mean, he did something no one else has ever done or will ever do again when he broke the Undertaker's streak and made it look relatively effortless.

He made John Cena his bitch for an uncomfortable twenty minutes, which no one else has come close to doing in like seven years.

I can't imagine any scenario in which it is remotely plausible or realistic for another human being in the WWE to even dent Brock Lesnar.

Time to call in RoboCop.
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Wyatt.

CM Punk would be kind of an awesome story.

If not him, Cena is the only one who should. No one else is remotely on that level.

I still hold out hope for Wyatt. It won't be, but it would be a huge mark out moment for me.

Punk would be fucking awesome. But alas, I agree with fan...it should be Cena. But it should happen as part of a Cena heel turn. This is the absolute best chance they have ever had for finally giving him a heel run and they need to capitalize on it; I don't think they'll ever get another opportunity even remotely as good as this.

Something has been burning in the back of my mind for a few minutes now, though. I'm assuming that Brock asked for the titles in his contract negotiations, and I also assume ending the streak was a part of it. What if he was given the streak in exchange for eventually dropping the title to Taker to give him one last championship moment?

Taker's an outside option. The man looked like he was in no shape to be in a wrestling ring last time though. Even if he could power his way through a match next year, I don't think you do what you've done with Lesnar just to have him drop the title to a barely mobile old guy. Even if it is a legend like Taker.

Sting, though... :shifty:

Last night, Hogan said that he's training to get back in the ring one more time...

MG Hurst. Or THE RYBACK.

MG Hurst would dropkick the fuck outta Ryback.

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For some reason I thought Kharma was dead.

Ugh, who in the hell impregnated her?

I just read that her baby was stillborn.

Slater Gator in a handicapped match.

Or she miscarried, either way.

I wish my mom miscarried me

Crowd: you don't mean that!!

THE DEMON KANE will dethrone Brock

I get kinda pissed when people say Brock is on a 2-fight win streak when he is on a 5-fight win streak.

<font color=goldenrod>As much as I'd love to see Bryan or Ambrose or a Punk return or something, I can't help but think Cena is winning the Rumble and getting another shot at Brock. The match will be built as a match Cena can't win, which will lead to him overcoming the odds. Brand new, never before seen idea.

Also him tying Flair's World Title count at Mania seems like the type of "WM moment" WWE would like to have.</font>

Brock should lose to Taker at the rumble, Cena wins the rumble, retires taker at WM, Seth cashes in and wins, Cena demands an immediate rematch and wins again. 17 Time world champ and being the 2nd guy to beat the streak!

Cole "Cena is the 2 in the 21 and 2!"

How exactly is Ric Flair a 16 x world champion?

Wiki says he's a 2 x WWF Champion, 8 x WCW Champion, 13 x NWA Champion and
2 x WCW International World Heavyweight Champion (whatever it is, dunno if it counts as a world championship). I just don't know how you count that stuff in WWE so someone please explain.

This. I can see not counting the 2 international titles, but Flair is 23 time as far as I'm concerned.

Heath Slater baby!

This. Kane wins, we all win.

Well you know they gotta have a lesnar vs cena rematch at NOC. Probably will have some sort of gimmick that will allow cena to get in more offense. Right now if cena can't beat lesnar then I can't see them booking anyone to beat him properly. I think a Paul heyman face turn is inevitable in all this.

Hogan wants Lesnar, brother!

Ryan Clark getting in on the action

Lol HHH will divorce steph over Roman Reigns and go to TNA to marry Dixie.

lol that is such a Ryan Clark post

Oh, yeeeah, cause divorcing Steph and going to another promotion would be such a great move.

He should divorce Steph, marry Vince, then divorce Vince and get at least half his shares.

Ryan Clark: The Voice of The IWC
A Retrospective

Coming soon to a bookstore nobody ever visits.

Who is scripted to face Brock Lesnar at RassleMania is definitely business serious enough to lose millions, divorce the most powerful woman in wrestling and ruin your life over.

Obviously the next champion should be an enormous black woman (even if she isn't as enormous as she once was.)

BROCK LESNARRRRRRRR

I’m sorry (no, I’m not), but of all people, Cena should NOT be the one to tie and/or break Flair’s World Title count....just...NO.

Maybe Orton, he’s right up there. Hell, give Triple H a few cracks at it, he’s at like, what, 13 right now?

Why not Cena?

Orton is nowhere near the star that Cena is

Triple H at this point in his career makes even less sense


come on

How about RVD? or Jack Swagger?

Jason Statham.

Scott Norton obviously.

No, you.

Like it to be Bryan/Reigns, someone who's full time and who is going to benefit from it long term. Or a rematch with Goldberg.

Whoever thinks that Sting is a good answer here, please take this time to punch yourself in the dick. Thanks in advance.

Hope they bring in Lashley to job to Lesnar after TNA folds.

Fandango wins the Royal Rumble and leaves everyone thinking "What the fuck did I just see?" for 24 hours before he comes out at the end of Raw, puts on his serious face and says "Fuck dancing. I'm gonna beat Brock Lesnar's ass."

Biggest upset in wrestling history, Johnny Curtis takes his place as the next wrestling megastar and all is right with the world.

Book it. I SAID BOOK IT!

^ IWC post

The fuck is a fandango?

It's a Spanish word meaning "license to print money".

Fandango and Adam Rose and Bo Dallas should form a stable where they all get hit by a bus.

Nah Bo is the man

bo and fandango are both the man

:fu:

Fine, then I vote for the Nature Boy.

Kavina Nash

Yes. This.

For different reasons of course. Bo was an awful face and they ended up turning that awfulness into a perfect heel gimmick for him.

Johnny Curtis is just the greatest thing to ever happen to wrestling and they gave him a fine midcard gimmick that has kinda gone to shit since THE BIGGEST UPSET IN WRESTLEMANIA HISTORY.

:fu:

Hey, Kavina.

RDD doesn't believe in mixing fun with his rasslin'.

Probably gonna end up being Seth Rollins after Lesnar goes through a war with someone and he cashes in. Would love if it was Dean Ambrose being crazy enough to beat Lesnar though.

Lesner doesnt have to to get beat to lose the title. he could lose it in a triple threat, fatle four way, elimination chamber or maybe this year at Hell in a Cell we get an Armagedon hell in a cell match.

FATLE FORE WAI

That would be an enormous waste.

Ambrose

The ideal story line, for me, is for Brock Lesnar to put John Cena out "for good" at Night of Champions, beating him into oblivion and solidifying his spot as the most dominant force in the WWE. Daniel Bryan returns at the Rumble in the #30 spot and wins the thing. We then set up a huge underdog match with Bryan versus Lesnar heading into WrestleMania 31, where it looks like Bryan has no chance in hell to win the thing. Bryan gets put over huge during this time. I'd love to see Undertaker come out on RAW to warn Bryan about Lesnar, Bryan takes offense and slaps the Undertaker across the face before getting Tombstoned. At Mania, Bryan and Lesnar have an epic David versus Goliath encounter. Lesnar gets the upper hand thanks to Heyman, but either John Cena or CM Punk makes the save in their "big return" and help Bryan nab the win. Lesnar goes on another vacation with a huge payday and Bryan is back on top of the mountain.

But unfortunately, that's a dream scenario that will probably never happen.

We're either looking at The Rock coming back to beat Lesnar for the title, or Roman Reigns ascending to the number one contender spot via a Royal Rumble victory and defeating Lesnar in what will be a hugely boring and predictable match.

How great would it be if Reigns wins the Rumble and the fans absolutely turn on him, ala Batista this past year, and someone like Ambrose or Bryan gets booked into the main event and wins it again.

It should be Daniel Bryan. When he returns, the crowd is going to be white-hot for him. He may not be the best promo in the history of the business, but he is competent on the mic and people listen to what he has to say. He also gets his character. His injury is a blessing in disguise, because it means that Bryan could lose the World Title without actually being pinned or submitting. It gives him a solid claim and a story that is easy to get behind. Injury comebacks in wrestling work great too.

Bryan is one of the few stars in WWE that galvanizes both the casual fan and the hardcore smark into a frenzy of positive energy. He's also a top-notch worker and can get a great match out of a broomstick. That may not seem important when it comes to making money, but Bryan's ring skills are separate from other great workers' because they really connect with audiences. It's something that Dean Ambrose is starting to get, but it's not something that truly connects him with them yet.

Even if Bryan isn't the guy you solely want to bank on, you at least ride him for 2015 and until that horse stops making money. He may or may not be your long-term next mega-star, but if you set him up to be as important as possible, then it allows his competitive performances to enhance whoever he works with. For example: Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar could have a real clunker at WrestleMania and the crowd might turn on Reigns and cheer Lesnar, giving us an underwhelming climax at WrestleMania 31 if Reigns wins the Rumble. But if Reigns and Bryan have a four-star match for the World Title post-Mania, Reigns suddenly seems deeper as a performer and gets more out of winning the title from the guy who beat the guy who beat The Undertaker at WrestleMania than he does from the predictable "Superman conquers villain at WrestleMania story."

There's a human dynamic with Bryan that just works, and it's got a lot of fresh characters to play off. Heyman and Bryan, for example, have barely interacted on-screen since Heyman's return to the company. How would that be for some fresh character work? Bryan becomes "The Man" and can work with anyone and make them seem like a big deal, all the while seeming vulnerable and like he could drop the title at any moment (despite clearly being the best wrestler in the world, from a kayfabe standpoint).

That being said, the support for Dean Ambrose does move me. I don't know if I'd go for Lesnar vs. Ambrose for the World Title, but I wouldn't mind the idea being teased. After RAW, with Ambrose presumably being out on the shelf for some time, I figured that it would make sense if Seth Rollins tried to cash in whilst he was out. At Night of Champions, Brock Lesnar and John Cena could have a more competitive match, after which Rollins' music can hit and he can bravely march down to the ring, looking like he intends to cash-in on Lesnar. Cue Ambrose jumping in from the crowd and attacking Rollins -- keeping his promise of always being there whenever Rollins plans to cash in.

It would make sense for Brock Lesnar to just make himself scarce under the orders of Heyman whilst this post-match brawl ensues, but imagine if Brock just watched as Ambrose drilled Rollins with Dirty Deeds in the middle of the ring and then the two stood down. Ambrose would be all crazy not backing down from Brock, while Heyman would be telling Brock he doesn't fight for free, etc.

It wouldn't come to anything, but if the plan is to then run Rollins vs. Ambrose in Hell in a Cell at the next PPV, then having Ambrose show some balls against Brock is a great way to give that match a main event rub.

I agree with most of this. I can definitely see The Undertaker getting involved in the WrestleMania build-up of the feud. I'm not sure if they would have him endorse Bryan or tell Bryan "you've got no chance." I wouldn't do the Tombstone spot, but I'd consider having Taker tell Bryan he's going to get destroyed. Taker then begins a slow march away as Bryan says "NO!" and gets a chant going. Bryan tells Taker to stop right there. Taker can't believe the gall of this kid. Bryan says that he respects what Taker has done, but he's wrong. Daniel Bryan will beat Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania. And when he's done that, he hopes Taker has the manhood to come out the next night on RAW and admit he was wrong.

This leads to a RAW After Mania moment where Taker congratulates Bryan on his WWE World Title win, and perhaps even presents him with the championship.

Im one of the biggest Daniel Bryan haters around so hope he is done with wrestling. If he were to beat Lesner for the title it would turn me off of WWE tv. I just dont see what people like about him, kick after kick after kick to the legs and then a Beniot tribute via head but and cross face. WWE pushed him down our throughts and I just hated every second of it.

Pushed????? He had one of the most organic runs to the top of all time. It was literally not planned, and shoehorned only because of the reaction he was getting night in, night out. And real nice, hoping a guy who busted his ass his whole life is done in the business, in his prime, right when he reached its highest level.

If he comes back and is white hot, I like the idea of Bryan. Cena also makes a lot of sense, but I don't think they can get enough of the fan base behind him. The fans want Cena to be destroyed, and that, imo, is going to dampen Brock's eventual loss. I don't think Reigns is ready. He's barely into a singles run, coming off his first initial feud. I think Ambrose would be more ready than Reigns at that point. In fact, I might like that. Guy is white fucking hot.

He was pushed like cazy last year. If you dont think all those teasers for him winning the title wasnt part of a push your blind. The only good thing that could come of his return is if he is the face that turns Cena heel. Also just said hope he never wrestles again never wished anything bad on him or anything.

He was not. He lost every feud he was in up until being shoehorned into the title scene. There were no hints, or teases that he was to main event. If Punk hadn't left, he would not have faced Triple H. Please show me where there were hints of his eventual face run. If you think Batista's return and RR win was supposed to flop and go the way it did, I think you're the one that is blind.

Winning the title just to lose it second later is a tease. He beat Cena at a PPV thats a push.

oh my god this im just a fan guy, so bad

facts

Well "im just a fan's" idea that Daniel Bryan is awful as a headliner and was definitely overpushed the moment he beat Cena and the idea of him beating Lesnar is fucking retarded is very accurate.

But Damian Rey's point that Daniel Bryan was only put in the main event of WrestleMania based on WWE having their arm twisted and they were not TRYING to push Daniel Bryan as a huge star all along but it happened via necessity based on crowd reactions is also very accurate.

Then again, RDD'S "The wrestling forum sucks but I will still have strong opinions without stating a good reason because I am an emo douche who just wants to have an opinion" attitude is also very tempting.

I'll need a day to choose a side here.

D Bry getting injured was the best possible thing that ever happened to him character wise. They were right in the middle of sewer fucking that title run so hard, and booking him like the weakest piece of shit champion. The second they have your first championship feud against Kane, is the second you know your run is going to be 3rd tier. At least the injury gave him an out and could potentially keep him fresh.

I dunno I am not sure he will get it back.

He did BEAT Kane in a war in the main event of the PPV. I'm not sure how that constitutes "being the weakest piece of shit champion". Who else could he have faced?

It would be different if Kane was still booked as an unstoppable monster or something, but he isn't. For me, I have zero interest in Kane and find him to be one of the more ridiculous parts of WWE anymore, with all the mask, suit, mask, suit, mask, suit flip flopping.

The problem, as you asked, is who else could he have faced? They lack depth of credible main event heels (or did at that time outside of Lesnar). I guess I just don't see Kane as a legit threat to anyone or any title.

Yeah, not many are (though as far as the lame "Gonna make Kane seem like a threat for the 20th time and hope people forget the 19 times he was made a glorified jobber" thing goes, that attempt wasn't all that bad). Kane might not be true main event caliber but he was on Daniel Bryan's level. Neither guy brought a big fight feel exactly. If you're a supporter of Daniel Bryan as a main event guy you should have been happy that he was actually main eventing the PPV as champion.

I don't think him main eventing a PPV as a champ has anything to do with things so much as the championship playing 2nd fiddle to whatever "EPIC MATCHUP" is slotted for whatever PPV.

Bottom line is that Bryan puts asses in seats and is many times more entertaining than 90% of the active roster. He was white hot from the time he beat Cena clean for the title all the way up until he had to have surgery and they capitalized on it. It will be interesting to see what his return produces.