Finally!
 

Nope I'm not talking about some faux Irish hardcore wrestler.


After all these years it finally happened. Not exactly as planned but the important this is Sting finally made his WWE debut.


Felt the years roll back in that last segment of the show. He may be 55 and way past his best but just to see him there and have him stare down Triple and watch the game crap his pants.....priceless.

once again confirming HHH is the guy who works with the guy that draws the money.

also, HHH's ego won't allow him to step aside and let someone else get the rub.

HHH vs Sting at the Rumble, Sting vs Taker @ Mania?

My guess is Sting gets to be the authority figure and requires HHH to return to active competitor..eventually setting up Sting vs HHH for control at WM (with cenas blessing I guess)

For those who didn't notice, JBL referred to Sting as a 2-time NWA World Heavyweight Champion, acknowledging his TNA reign in the process :yes:

HHH vs sting = 4/10

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Wrong. He held it twice before it was the WCW Championship. He was TNA Champ 4 times.

Yeah, nobody cares about what you have to say.

you know you do, you have to... :(


the point is that HHH is yet again positioning himself to be in the main event. What I would prefer is a long build between taker and sting. there are enough going up against the authority.

I care about the Mac

On another note I don't see this as truly the end of the Authority storyline. This is going to simmer slowly for a while and will culminate ultimately with Sting v Triple H at WM 31 where Sting makes his in-ring debut (and possibly finale) and hopefully wins.

He won't and shouldn't wrestle until then. WWE need to milk this for all its worth and will almost certainly mean the WM tickets will sell out soonish and could well be one of the most watched WMs of all time.


I don't see him doing any other types of matches until then i.e. tag teams or even the Royal Rumble.

Fixed.

The Mac we can't see what you said in your fake code.

Yeah but without the streak it isn't worth its salt. Taker v Sting would just be lame and in any case I doubt Sting would sign up to lose his only match and given the rubbish last time, I wouldn't want to see Taker lose or anywhere near a ring again. Taker just can't physically hack it anymore and the signs have been there. We all need to accept Taker v Sting won't and shouldn't happen and let it go.

Triple H v Sting is perfectly poised. Their in-ring abilities and characters fit perfectly the good-guy (anti-hero) v the perfect villain.

Sting 6 time WCW
1 time NWA in Jim Crockett Promotions 1 while in Minus Five Stars league after the NWA was already dead RIP (1993) as Shane Douglas said.

Still can't believe we've finally seen Sting in a WWE ring. Waited for this for so long especially since the demise of WCW back in 2001....gosh that was 13 years ago but feels like yesterday.

In a way kudos to McMahon.....in the days, months and years after buying WCW his aim was to sign Sting, the biggest star to never perform for him. So many of WCWs greats jumped ship WWE before and after the purchase; Jericho, Mysterio, Malenko, Guerero, DDP, Regal, Booker T and then eventually Goldberg who was very much a key player in WCW winning the Monday Night Wars. But still Sting was the only one missing, the only trophy left to win as it were. It took him a while but he got his man....eventually.

At this juncture, I can't see Sting going up against a bigger name heel in the company than Hunter.

Sting vs Lesnar

There is nobody bigger or more appropriate. I'm kind of disappointed the authority lost as I wanted to see Sting put an end to it at WM but in a way he did kind of end it.

Sting needs to be matched with someone closer to his age and era. Sting didn't necessarily fade away as Cena became more prominent but they were never both the big draws at the same time. Sting at least was on Nitro with Triple H and DX (amongst others) over on Raw so that creates history. Hogan was still big-ish at that time so the idea of Rock v Hogan worked.


What I really don't want to happen is to see Sting lose at WM if it is to be his one and only match.


I am quite sure the Authority storyline isn't done and dusted just yet. It can't be. Vince McMahon may well figure some more in this and might begin screwing over Cena as "the chairman" to allow the authority back in which then draws into the Sting storyline and then Triple H deciding to lay it ALL on the line, control, career etc.


What I have really missed this last couple of years with the development of the authority angle is a lack of in-ring action from Triple H.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Borden



Sting is a fifteen-time world champion, having held the NWA World Heavyweight Championship twice, the WCW World Heavyweight Championship six times, the WCW International World Heavyweight Championship twice, the WWA World Heavyweight Championship once, and the TNA World Heavyweight Championship four times.

<font color=goldenrod>I'm not even going to overanalyze Sting's return. I'm just going to enjoy it. We'll literally never experience this again. There is nobody left who would make for a legitimate "oh shit, XXXXX is finally in WWE!" moment.</font>

He's Sting; The Icon, The Franchise, The Scorpion etc etc etc.

And he's now here in WWE and for those of us following his career for years in WCW and TNA and hoping and wishing he would appear in the WWE/WWF, he's finally here. Better late than never.

Triple H from a career standpoint has stagnated and needs one last hurrah as it were and if he can put on a good show with Sting, you will all be talking about WM 31 for a long time.

The NWA World title existed in TNA before the TNA World title was introduced.

And before the WCW. If you're going to ignore one, you have to ignore the other.

WWE has had this bullet in the chamber for 13 years and they finally fired it and it just kinda went off with a wimper

Really? I think it went over quite well. The crowd loved, many saw it for free on the WWE network and sets in motion the hype for his debut possibly at WM.


I would rather the Authority had won, they celebrated by beating Ziggler then the lights go out, Sting comes in and wiped them out with his baseball bat but oh well.

Droford is really being more of a dick than usual in these threads

I can't even.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Sting has always been referred to as a two-time NWA Champion before TNA even came around. There was no way a reference to TNA in what JBL said. Maybe if they said 6 time TNA Champion there'd be merit in your claim, but they didn't.

Sorry bud.

Lol TNA. That garbage doesn't count.

No. No he didn't.

I meant acknowledging his second reign as NWA World Champion which happened in TNA.

That was his third reign in TNA.

I assume you're agreeing with me. And we never agree on anything, so I must be double right.

July 7, 1990 (NWA) and October 22, 2006 (TNA)

And if you're not, click the wiki link. It clearly states the correct facts.

But to be fair, if that wiki information is wrong, I'll admit so.

Okay, upon further looking, I was wrong.

Hey, it's pretty cool that JBL referenced Stings TNA run as NWA champion. Did anybody else notice this?

I sincerely hope that I will not be punished for this act of defiance, my King.

I always win my arguments by editing Wikipedia articles.

That was the final ever big mark out moment.

There is no-one who will ever make a surprise apperance, or debut or anything like that again. Or at least not for the time it will take for a second company to rise to the level of WWE and create it's own stars, which we are a long way away from.

So that makes it the final big moment of professional wrestling.

......and I fell asleep.

Woke up just in time to see Ziggler pin Rollins and Sting walk away.

FFS.

Hey, I'll admit that I misread the wiki article. I actually checked it after JBL made the call for the same reason :y:

I dont dig sting with his hair slicked back - maybe he should have let it hang a bit over his face - he would look a bit younger and mysterious.

AJ Styles or Austin Aries could have fit the category but the ship sailed too long ago for those two especially the former.

I think styles could, not Aries.

This is 100% correct.

<font color=goldenrod>Nope, not even Styles. Depending on where the show was held (namely if it was in a smarky city) Styles could have gotten a pretty sizable pop as anybody who has seen his work knows that he's excellent, but plenty of people still wouldn't know who he is.</font>

The crowd was dead. They wanted surfer sting. The crowd was let down. Nobody cheered. Where was the surfboard?

<font color=goldenrod>Sting needed to appear in his red and gold Sgt. Pepper jacket and use the term "Little Stingers" at least three times. These are the arbitrary conditions that I have established and, failing to fulfill them, Sting was a disappointment.</font>

Are you sure? I thought the pop was huge. The only pop as big or bigger was when Rock came back to confront Rusev or when Austin and Rock came back at WM 30.


Also most fans were probably aware he was going to appear so the element of surprise was somewhat taken away but nevertheless was still a momentous occasion.

Ehh I would have rather seen Randy RKO Triple h

You call that a pop? Maybe if he was surfer sting but no-one likes crow sting anymore. I heard no pop. Maybe even some boos.

Me too Shinsen. I expected a bigger pop than that.

Perhaps when they were both white hot in terms of popularity over on TNA. AJ Styles more so than Aries but I feel both stayed at TNA for far too long that it damaged their careers and they won't be mentioned as "performers that never competed in WWE" for good reasons like a certain other wrestler until last night.

I mean you will always get the huge pops if someone returns be it for wrestling or a promo but nothing like this.

Gail Kim is another I'd like back in the WWE but again she's been away for far too long and is "too TNA" to really come back and make any sort of impact in the Divas division anymore no matter how gifted or stunning she is.

Franchise, what do you mean? AJ and Aries couldn't make it in WWE dumbass.

What makes you say that? And name-calling, how mature.

Would you bitches shut up about Taker vs Sting already?

They're 104 years old combined.

Watch your fucking mouth you bitch ass hoe

because they were in TNA for a reason. And I'm sorry for that "dumbass" remark. Please forgive me.

So was CM Punk right?

But that was my point. They (well AJ Styles did) had opportunities to jump ship and resisted because they wanted to be the big fish in the small pond. Aries has just gone stale whilst AJ Styles.....what is he even doing now?

TNA is another debate but even old timers like Hogan, Foley, Flair and even Sting himself wanted out to make sporadic promos on WWE tv rather than hog the limelight weekly on TNA, it shows how bad that organization is and how badly talent is developed there.

Yes. Which is why he is not with WWE anymore.

But that was on his own accord as opposed to being dumped from WWE based on his talent/ability.

Had he stuck around I have no doubt Punk would have been a key figure in the Authority storyline (more so than Cena) and may well have been in the title picture.

I don't think Sting was originally meant to be involved in the storyline either but Punk leaving and then Bryan's longer than planned injury threw a spanner in the works and everything had to be re-written.

HHH shoehorning his way into this is kind of disgusting but it's fine. Nohing is going to ruin this for me.

Him being more involved in the Authority angle? How so? It's Team Authority vs Team Cena. How would he be more involved?

I think Sting may well have had a lot of input into this storyline given that was his "reasoning" for not coming to WWE in the past (i.e. his fear of his character and legacy being ruined).


Triple H is the only one experienced and skilled enough on the roster to carry an old guy like Sting and given their polar opposite characters. Rock v Sting wouldn't have worked neither would Cena v Sting.


The ship sailed for Taker v Sting long before and even if the streak had been in tact would anyone really want to see Taker lose two WMs consecutively or even see Sting lose his one and only match in WWE? Both are popular faces of sorts and need their characters to be preserved. I actually doubt we will see Taker in the ring again and certainly not at WM 31.

If he can't even wrestle once a year without getting concussed then simply, he shouldn't come anywhere near a ring.

It probably would have been Team Punk and further back with the proposed Triple H v Punk at WM 30 that prompted Punk to leave, that might have had some sort of angle or stipulation to it.

Cena was only brought into this equation because of the absence of Bryan and Punk.

<font color=goldenrod>To be fair, if Sting is only meant to be working one match/program for the company, the options that would make any sort of sense are fairly limited. It's pretty much Triple H and The Undertaker. This isn't "hold everyone down" Triple H either, this is "bump 10 feet for Brie Bella" Triple H. I trust he'll do the right thing and let Sting win in his first (and possibly only) match.

Plus with Taker...we don't know if Taker can wrestle another match, and on top of that it'd be weird to have him lose a 2nd Mania match in a row but also weird to have Sting job in his match. On top of that, even though Taker/Sting is a match that everyone (myself included) have fantasy booked before, the comparisons between the two are often overblown by non-WCW watchers just assuming he was WCW's Undertaker. Sting's character really was totally different.</font>

Stop it.

I liked the angle.

I just don't like that Trips views himself as a spectacle like Taker or Brock. He isn'tt. He's just not. I mean, he's always been solid but he's just not on the level that he is trying to convince everybody he is on. That's all.

Although, I do get the point that there aren't many others Sting could really be in a program with. That is correct. I can't think of many others a WM plan could work with that wouldn't screw up current WWE storylines. Sting/Bray would be cool. I dunno. I'm just always really disappointed when something great happens but Triple H has to be right in the middle of it.

If Austin Aries or AJ Styles did ever sign, they wouldn't just not be high profile, but would instead be sent to NXT and given generic names first.

You mean he's not convinced you about that. As far as I am concerned, he is pretty much at the top. Oh hey look, everyone else seems to think HHH-Sting is the way to go too. Fancy that!

Like Jacob Cass?

Also, if Triple H from last year's Mania shows up to wrestle Sting, he can hide all of Sting's weaknesses. Final Form Triple H will do Sting well instead of Taker.

Agreed. I'm really hoping Sting's been working on improving his in-ring game if he's actually going to wrestle, because doughy, drag-assing TNA Sting is not going to cut it if they really want to do these "dream match" scenarios with him. Even if he's still slacking, though, if Triple H puts on his work boots, he can make the match something cool.

Plus, having it be Triple H instead of, say, Bray Wyatt or Seth Rollins gets rid of all of that gross "yesterday is better than today" stuff they do whenever a legend shows up. You can still have the crowd mark out hard for Sting, without it negatively affecting someone else's career. Plus, Triple H is at a point now where he suffers nothing from taking a big loss, so as annoying as it is that he's built himself up as this unbeatable Shao Khan Final-Boss figure, he's at least been using it to put other people over strong.

It's a shame that it didn't happen 10 years sooner, and that we probably won't get that Sting/Undertaker match people have been dreaming about forever. But Sting showing up at all in a WWE ring is still goddamn incredible to see.

I liked the angle. Just wish there had been more options.

Naw. He just isn't in the context of history. He has never drawn like Austin, Rock, Cena, or Taker. He has never sold the merchendise that those guys have sold. He's never been a national news story like Brock. He has always been solid, but that's really all. He's a mediocre mic guy that repeats himself in every promo to the point of self-parody. I mean, I have always wanted to appreciate him for what he is but the problem is that he is sold like he is more than he is and it makes it difficult to praise. He has been a very solid above-average performer over the years and he should definitely be appreciated. It's only when he gets put in context with the greatest guys ever that I have any problem with him.

And Triple H and Sting is most definitely the way to go right now. There aren't many other options and it will be entertaining.

I equate it to Kobe Bryant a bit. Everytime I try to acknowledge his place in history, I get bombarded by everybody calling him the greatest ever. If I say that I don't think he is the greatest ever, then I am labeled as hating Kobe Bryant. You can appreciate what somebody has done without going completely overboard, is what I am saying.

I am a huge Foley mark. Would I say that he is the greatest ever or even in the conversation? No, I probably wouldn't. But I can appreciate him for what he was.

I just hope he does more than 1 match. I mean he put over half the TNA roster while he was there. The matched he could have in WWE with the like of Wyatt, Cena, The Legend Killer Randy Orton, Rollins, Ambrose. Everyone of them could put on a match just as good as EC3 and Sting, so I dont see why he would only do one match but he probally will.

Kinda want to see Ziggler vs. HHH.

He also said impact, I think he was tring to make a refrence without really making a reference.

Cole also refered to Sting's finisher as the Death Drop which was also the name of his finisher in TNA :eek:

I take it back, I read the post beforehand. Here is a butterfly

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I agree with this black vampire - even if HHH ate Chyna's sweaty mansie out on a nightly basis.

I'll have you know that Chandler is a pure Aryan unicorn of a man.

I doubt many people get mad if you don't say Kobe is the greatest. Maybe if you don't have him in your top 5 or even 10.

As jim cornette said, "hunter is the guy who works with THE GUY" . I just don't find hhh compelling. Nothing about him makes me want to cheer or boo him....its more "him again". I lathing a lot of you are discounting taker...remember he had a head injury early in the match with brick and was disorientated for the rest of it. He would fair much better in a match with someone that can actually work a wrestling match instead of a faux mma match

You are also the guy steaming The Mackem's role here so...

Anybody who can't acknowledge and appreciate what HHH has done for this business is blind. Has he taken advantage of the situation he's in? Possibly. But who wouldn't?

What is Triple H's job in the WWE Network original series, "Slam City?"

He always has been a major star.Was discussing this the other night with a friend whilst watching Survivor Series and we concluded he may well have been much bigger had he not been surrounded by the likes of HBK, Undertaker, Rock, Austin and heck even Foley on the roster but I'd even go as far as saying he was one of a "special group". All those names mentioned are superstars and legends of the ring....could add Jericho in the mix as he was big in the Attitude era.

But my point is that Triple H if anything gets less credit than he deserves. And from a management point of view it was HIM that managed to get Hogan to come back, the Ultimate Warrior to patch up differences with the WWE before his untimely devise and he was instrumental in bringing Sting to WWE and obviously will play a major role in what will be the last big feud (if not last feud) of Sting's career. He has a good working role with many professionals in the business.

Yes he's been luck that he married the boss's daughter but life's all about luck right?

Just imagine if he'd stayed with Chyna and look at how things turned out for her.

Still buzzing from Survivor Series. It kind feels weird...all these years I sort of enjoyed the speculation about whether or not Sting would sign up to WWE, when, if, how, why, is he any less of a legend if he didn't.

Sting himself was adamant he never would but ever man has his price or perhaps it was that itch or desire he needed to get off his chest so he can say he did it all?

Jericho. I haven't had a lot to do with him over the years, I can't comment.

So Sting makes his long awaited debut and the next night hes not even on Raw...wtf.