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Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2015 01:23 AM

What do you think about The Miz?
 
Sure he got off to a shaky start, but he really seems like a student of the game, and he's been playing his current character REALLY well. He's got great promo skills, and his matches are actually quite good, but it seems that not many people give him the credit I feel he deserves.

We'll call this a litmus test. What do you think about The Miz?

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2015 01:27 AM

Meant to make the poll public, so sound off.

Simple Fan 02-06-2015 01:28 AM

Miz should be i n the title scene the shit he is doing now is just dumb.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-06-2015 01:28 AM

His legacy will always be that his WrestleMania main event pissed CM Punk off to become the best WWE Champion of all time. Michael Cole is the real reason he got over.

Voted Awful.

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2015 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by im just a fan (Post 4581279)
Miz should be i n the title scene the shit he is doing now is just dumb.

I dunno, it may be a little over the top, but I think he's playing his role very well. Also, it created Mizdow, so I can't be mad about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4581280)
His legacy will always be that his WrestleMania main event pissed CM Punk off to become the best WWE Champion of all time. Michael Cole is the real reason he got over.

Voted Awful.

His run with The In Crowd was absolutely fantastic. The Dirt Sheet was super fun. He had one of my favorite US title runs of all time. Even though it was a ripoff of Jerishow, ShowMiz was a lot of fun. His ascension to the WWE title was awesome to me, and his promos were off the charts at the time. The Awesome Truth was great....

I mean, that's his legacy to me.

Simple Fan 02-06-2015 01:36 AM

Yea you pretty much said any thing he does is gold.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-06-2015 01:38 AM

Miz and Morrison were before those teams.

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2015 01:39 AM

The In Crowd was Miz and Morrison's name, I thought. That was the first thing I mentioned.

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2015 01:41 AM

Regardless of their name, they were hosts for that DVD about the greatest tag teams of all time. That's saying something.

Tazz Dan 02-06-2015 01:43 AM

I'm a big Miz fan. Even more so after meeting him, he's really polite and has a passion for the business in his voice when he talks about it. I'd love to see him in the main event scene again, his feud with Cena was one of Cena's better in the last few years, IMO.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-06-2015 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4581286)
The In Crowd was Miz and Morrison's name, I thought. That was the first thing I mentioned.

No some guy here kept saying it was their name and I tried to tell him that they didn't have one. He refused to believe me and kept using it. Forgot who it was. Maybe it was you? Don't remember.

I meant that they weren't ripoffs of Jerishow etc because they were a tag team before Jerishow and etc.

Simple Fan 02-06-2015 01:45 AM

#mizinthemainevent

Lock Jaw 02-06-2015 01:48 AM

I thought he was actually Awesome from sometime during his run with Morrison right up until his feud with Alex Riley. Thought he was a great heel, and would continue to be a "top heel" for a long time to come.

Then they just stopped caring about him, he got lost in the shuffle, eventually turned face (which he was terrible at being), got lost in the shuffle some more....

Then came back with his current shtick. I admit that when he first returned, before Jericho interrupted, I was kind of hoping for a return of big time serious heel threat The Miz.... but he is doing gold in his current more light-hearted heel run... getting a guy like Sandow, who I was never really into, and turning him into a star.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-06-2015 01:53 AM

Maybe switching to OK. Really disliked his face run.

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2015 01:56 AM

Yeah, terrible face run, but they didn't really give him much to do.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-06-2015 02:23 AM

He once called Team Rhodes Scholars the Pink and the Stink.

XL 02-06-2015 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4581290)
No some guy here kept saying it was their name and I tried to tell him that they didn't have one. He refused to believe me and kept using it. Forgot who it was. Maybe it was you? Don't remember.

I meant that they weren't ripoffs of Jerishow etc because they were a tag team before Jerishow and etc.

He meant ShowMiz was a ripoff of JeriShow.

GD 02-06-2015 03:30 AM

I have a soft spot for The Miz and would love to see him as a viable contender for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship. I also wouldn't mind him as a strong mid-card heel champion.

Mr. Nerfect 02-06-2015 04:07 AM

He works really hard and is all-round good. I'm happy he's made a great career out of things, but I just don't get "excited" for his stuff like I used to. I'd like to see him in a hot program, but I just can't think of what one would be. Maybe something with Sami Zayn or another of the NXT 5?

Tazz Dan 02-06-2015 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4581308)
He meant ShowMiz was a ripoff of JeriShow.

I was going to point that out, but he probably still won't understand :'(

Tazz Dan 02-06-2015 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4581315)
He works really hard and is all-round good. I'm happy he's made a great career out of things, but I just don't get "excited" for his stuff like I used to. I'd like to see him in a hot program, but I just can't think of what one would be. Maybe something with Sami Zayn or another of the NXT 5?

Hey my brother, is my WWE Network account working for you again?

Rammsteinmad 02-06-2015 06:25 AM

Voted awesome. The guy's the goods. He has a great look, mic skills, and his in-ring skills are pretty tight. I mean, he's no technical master like Cesaro or Bryan, and in fact more-often than not he relies solely on the "basics", but he's a solid hand in the ring and can hold his own with anyone.

He has the potential to be a huge face, but the problem, as with most people, is that he's such a great heel, that being generic face #4532 just doesn't work for him.

Bad News Gertner 02-06-2015 06:26 AM

He's a fantastic heel

Rammsteinmad 02-06-2015 06:26 AM

Plus, the fact he made it as far as he did, when he debuted and was constantly bullied as the "reality TV" guy really shows his passion and determination for the business.

CSL 02-06-2015 06:54 AM

he's not bad. Bit of a one trick pony but he does that trick very well so he'll probably always have a job. Got to respect what he's accomplished. Can't stand him as a talking head on anything WWE Network related tho.

Evil Vito 02-06-2015 07:32 AM

<font color=goldenrod>The Miz has been great as a heel for a few years now. Was unbearable as a face, though.</font>

Evil Vito 02-06-2015 07:32 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Also he regularly gets to have sex with Maryse, so he's clearly done something right.</font>

Vastardikai 02-06-2015 07:54 AM

Nice guy, but meh in the ring.

I'll give you that he's a good heel. If you want to punch him in the face, he's doing it right.

Fignuts 02-06-2015 08:21 AM

What CSL said.

Shisen Kopf 02-06-2015 08:35 AM

He's a modern day Rick Martel. Good not great.

Rammsteinmad 02-06-2015 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4581334)
<font color=goldenrod>Also he regularly gets to have sex with Maryse, so he's clearly done something right.</font>

/thread

road doggy dogg 02-06-2015 09:03 AM

I enjoy him a lot. Think he's better as a heel than a face, but feels a bit stale at times

Nicky Fives 02-06-2015 09:07 AM

Meh. Not a huge fan....don't want to see him near the main event again.....

Ruien 02-06-2015 09:59 AM

Love the Miz. He keeps things entertaining and is proving that he is able to play multiple heels characters instead of being 1 dimensional.

Clerk 02-06-2015 10:08 AM

He's biblical! Charismatic, Attractive, former WWE Champion, main evented wrestlemania. biblical

NormanSmiley 02-06-2015 01:54 PM

I think the term buried is used far too loosely , but in the case of the Miz, it happened so bad that I don't think anyone would take him in the main event seriously ever again. Its unbelievable when you consider he main evented a WM, and retained, against cena.


he is a great heel and its proof the staff can't write for or push more than one person at a time

DrCrawford 02-06-2015 03:23 PM

He's better than he was, but I don't want to see him in the main event again

Anybody Thrilla 02-06-2015 03:27 PM

It would really take something special for him to feasibly belong in the main event again. I'm not calling for that. I just feel like he gets a lot of unwarranted hate.

Emperor Smeat 02-06-2015 05:08 PM

He's good. Way better as a heel than as a face though. Besides Miz & Morrision, really liked his rise to the WWE title and Awesome Truth team.

Shame that his title run got overshadowed by Rock-Cena stuff and still hasn't fully recovered in status since getting the sole blame for 2011 SummerSlam's low buyrate.

Ultra Mantis 02-06-2015 05:22 PM

In general he's okay, personally 90% of the time I don't find him entertaining but he is capable of pulling out a decent promo or match at times. I think the main problems are he often gets stuck cutting the same promo every week, and aside from the kneeling DDT spot his offense looks incredibly lame.

Heyman 02-06-2015 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4581276)
We'll call this a litmus test. What do you think about The Miz?


I think Miz is ok, but I don't think he'll be any bigger than he already is, or was when he main-evented Wrestlemania back in 2011.


I see Miz as being a poor man's Chris Jericho; which isn't necessarily a bad thing.


I see Miz having a few more runs as an IC champ and/or a Tag team champ, with maybe a few 'main-event jobber' stretches a la Alberto Del Rios.


Other than that though, I think The Miz has peaked. I see him continuing to be a mildly entertaining mid-card kind of guy.

Anybody Thrilla 02-07-2015 05:15 AM

Pretty crazy how Morrison became the Jannetty of that team.

Heyman 02-07-2015 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4581685)
Pretty crazy how Morrison became the Jannetty of that team.



Morrison is still young enough to make a comeback, and so I don't think the Jannetty comparison is appropriate......yet......but Morrison really did screw himself when he acted like a bitch during that whole Morrison-Melina-Trish Stratus fiasco from a few Wrestlemania's ago.


Also - it's not like The Miz has lit the world up either and so it's not like he's been the Shawn Michaels of that team either.

Shimmy7446 02-07-2015 12:49 PM

He had a rough start coming in as a reality tv guy, rather than 'paying his dues' so many dislike him no matter what, even though he has clearly paid his dues by this point in his career. I find him entertaining, but only as a heel. I like his character.

What I think may help the Miz, is if he gets a good Mgr, someone old school, not Heyman, and the Mgr would be more of a teacher of sorts. I still love the idea of Ric Flair coaching him, but not to be a face, but as the new 'dirtiest player of the game.' Have Ric and Miz come out and scout his opponents from ringside, then when Miz faces them, he can focus on 1 body part only, such as Roman's right hand, to stop him from being able to use the Superman punch. Have Miz use any foreign objects on the hand, like a hammer, the ring bell, even just stomping it, all while Ric distracts the ref. Constantly having a good game plan to counter his opponents big moves would give him credibility and help him climb as more of a thinker, since he doesn't really have the size to match up with some of the big guys.


Ok, well sorry to rant. Good thread.

poopfromweiner dude 02-07-2015 01:09 PM

Is your aviator john cena making out with the rock ?

Please tell me you drew it yourself

Chimera 02-07-2015 04:15 PM

The Miz reminds me a lot of Nikky Chance. Both wrestlers have a similar history. Miz and Nikky both came into their feds being hated by the fans who saw them as "bad wrestlers" and "not belong" in wrestling. However working hard, Nikky just like Miz, improved by jumps and leaps theough the early days of his career to gain the actual respect of the fans.


I am a fan of both, "The King of Clubs" Nikky Chance and "Awesome" The Miz.

Simple Fan 02-07-2015 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chimera (Post 4581745)
The Miz reminds me a lot of Nikky Chance. Both wrestlers have a similar history. Miz and Nikky both came into their feds being hated by the fans who saw them as "bad wrestlers" and "not belong" in wrestling. However working hard, Nikky just like Miz, improved by jumps and leaps theough the early days of his career to gain the actual respect of the fans.


I am a fan of both, "The King of Clubs" Nikky Chance and "Awesome" The Miz.

How dare you compare The Miz to some backyard pozer. He's an A Lister you know.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-07-2015 11:06 PM

How dare you argue with yourself!

Simple Fan 02-07-2015 11:10 PM

I'm not Chimera so how dare you look like a dumbass.

Blue Demon 02-07-2015 11:31 PM

WE WANT MIZDOW!

James Steele 02-07-2015 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4581329)
he's not bad. Bit of a one trick pony but he does that trick very well so he'll probably always have a job. Got to respect what he's accomplished. Can't stand him as a talking head on anything WWE Network related tho.

My thoughts are about the same, but I'm tired of his one trick.

Corkscrewed 02-08-2015 06:30 AM

I still don't feel he's got main event clout, but I've really been enjoying his character lately. He's definitely a great Hollywood heel.

The Condor 02-08-2015 01:37 PM

Miz's legacy will always be his face. Very seldom in wrestling do you want to hit a guy or hate a guy due to his face. Miz took that and turned himself into one of the few legitimate heels of the Internet era. He wasn't a good face, and he wasn't a cool heel to cheer. He was a good heel in a time when it might be harder to be a heel that receives the traditional heel reaction. I like his work, and he is passionate and dedicated to the industry. That's all good in my book.

Jordan 02-08-2015 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4581685)
Pretty crazy how Morrison became the Jannetty of that team.

I don't see that at all. Morrison left willingly and isn't a sucker like Jannetty is. Truly Jannetty is the Jannetty of The Rockers because he is an idiot. His interviews he does these days are just a mess.

Morrison is still in his prime and choosing his shots. He could come back to WWE at anytime I beleive.

Anyway, to the Miz. I'm so ... in the middle of the road. I really don't like him the majority of the time, but I must admit he is starting to grow on me lately. He is really good in the ring, though I really don't like his finish and a lot of his offense in general. But he is in good shape, he's a good performer who has the potential to be better, and he is a former Wrestlemania main eventer. For the credibility of that event alone I would push the Miz strong.

Tom Guycott 02-08-2015 05:46 PM

I seriously hope Miz hangs it up ringwise if the WWE continues doing nothing of note with him, and he goes on to become an old school style manager. He could continue his "Hollywood" persona and start his client list with "Prince Pretty" and maybe someone who isn't getting decent TV exposure, like either half of (or both, but as singles competitors in a stable) Slator Gator.

Mr. Nerfect 02-08-2015 06:59 PM

The Miz suffering a "career-threatening injury" (in kayfabe) and becoming a heel manager would actually be really great.

Emeye 02-09-2015 05:28 PM

I chose Awesome. With the right push, Miz can once again be a legit contender. Great as a heel on the mic, solid in the ring, has the look and accolades. Doesn't even need any repackaging, just needs a long, meaningful feud with a face that the crowd cares about.


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