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Anybody Thrilla 05-08-2015 02:51 PM

How do you currently feel about The New Day?
 
When they started, we thought it had potential. When they debuted, they sharted. Now with the heel turn...what do you think?

Personally, they've been insanely entertaining to me. I'm also relieved that they haven't been continually shoved down our throats the face route. WWE noticed real reactions and had the characters respond in kind. It's refreshing.

What do you think?

What Would Kevin Do? 05-08-2015 02:56 PM

Easily one of the best things on the show right now. Plus it has lead to face Cesaro, which is just as awesome/.

Anybody Thrilla 05-08-2015 03:02 PM

I'm really digging heel Kofi. I'd like to see him become the super cocky ultra athlete. Instead of just flying around to impress people, he flies around because nobody else can and he feels he's "above it all", pun definitely intended. There was a glimpse of this sort of thinking in their most recent Smackdown match, I think.

Ruien 05-08-2015 03:08 PM

Woods is hilarious and I can't wait for Big E to squash him one day in the future.

Nowhere Man 05-08-2015 03:22 PM

I think the New Day works for all the reasons Bo Dallas doesn't work on the main roster-- we actually saw them try to be beloved babyfaces and suck horribly at it, so when they switched gears and started doing heel stuff but still act like they're the good guys, it's a refreshing change of pace. Dallas had the same thing going for him on NXT, but when he moved up to the main roster he was just a dorky heel who said "BO-LIEVE" all the time, with none of the character arc that led him there.

But yes, the New Day is great, and this may be the first time I've actually found myself thinking "Kofi Kingston is on the mic? All right!"

Big Vic 05-08-2015 03:24 PM

I love Bo Dallas's promo against Swagger where he brought those 3 "fans" out on stage.[/unrelated]

Anybody Thrilla 05-08-2015 03:27 PM

When was that?

Big Vic 05-08-2015 03:37 PM

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Ultra Mantis 05-08-2015 03:52 PM

The way they work their matches is also a big advantage they have over Bo, they aren't suddenly dominant just because they are heel. He was pretty much just squashing people during his push which did not suit his look, character or ability whatsoever.

Shadrick 05-08-2015 04:42 PM

I love heel Kofi.

Rammsteinmad 05-08-2015 05:20 PM

I love 'em for all the reasons stated in this thread, I just can't stand the name "New Day". It's an awful name for a stable. However... "New Day Sucks!" has caught on with audiences, so whatever...

Emeye 05-08-2015 05:40 PM

Well, I'm the minority choice here. I do not find New Day entertaining. They have vastly improved over the last few weeks, and I'm hoping to see more of Kofi like this, but I just can't get behind Woods or Big E in this stable (can't get into Woods ever). Big E, I enjoyed and probably would still enjoy solo.
However, I could totally get behind them phasing into a full on face stable, now that they are picking up momentum with the crowd.Then, have Kofi turn on them, going heel. Could get into a heel Kofi feuding with a face Big E (who is a monster, and maybe has Xavier Woods as a manager). I don't know, I guess I really just want Kofi to finally get that big singles push as a heel, and less Xavier Woods on my TV.

Emperor Smeat 05-08-2015 07:45 PM

The crowd getting active enough to make the heel turn possible was the best thing to happen for the group.

Before the stable was looking like a big bust but once they embraced the whole "New Day Sucks" for the turn, they've been a lot more entertaining.

road doggy dogg 05-08-2015 07:58 PM

New Day as heel = good

Simple Fan 05-08-2015 08:08 PM

Always liked their entrance music and like the way the heel turn is going but New Day should be clapping New Day's Champs, New Day's Champs, instead of Rocks.

Bad News Gertner 05-08-2015 10:16 PM

When I see ideas like the New Day, I just can't believe in 2015, no matter how PG the WWE gets, that creative thought they would get over as Faces.

Jordan 05-08-2015 10:39 PM

Well as most have said, I am totally entertained by The New Day since their heel turn. All of them are really effective entertaining heels and have made a great trio. Eventually they will turn face I'd imagine because their aren't really bad guys.

Shadrick 05-09-2015 01:21 AM

Who would have thought that Kofi would ever be described as a "really effective entertaining heel?" A single tear is falling from my eye.

Heisenberg 05-09-2015 01:22 AM

Xavier Woods had me at Consequences Creed

Anybody Thrilla 05-09-2015 04:43 AM

I would really like for more of the naysayers to state their case here.

Anybody Thrilla 05-09-2015 04:43 AM

And yes, Consequences Creed was great.

DAMN iNATOR 05-09-2015 07:04 AM

They don't do anything for me. Don't know why they won the tag titles; they haven't gotten over as faces or heels, and they're just so one-dimensional. Ican only imagine how much effort it must take for ordinary people to clap and be positive. :roll:

Supreme Olajuwon 05-09-2015 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4628712)
I would really like for more of the naysayers to state their case here.

Judging by the names I see voting against them, I'd say it has something to do with a general dislike of "the black people"

Evil Vito 05-09-2015 09:24 AM

<font color=goldenrod>I like all 3 guys individually as performers and felt horrible for them when they debuted as faces because, while it gave them something to do, it seemed destined to bomb.

Turning them heel to match the reactions was definitely the right call. They're hilarious.</font>

Bad News Gertner 05-09-2015 09:29 AM

Lol like how did anyone with half a brain think they would work as faces. It just boggles the mind.

Shisen Kopf 05-09-2015 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 4628723)
Judging by the names I see voting against them, I'd say it has something to do with a general dislike of "the black people"

Wonder how owenbrown will vote??

Supreme Olajuwon 05-09-2015 12:10 PM

owenbrown won't vote because the poll was made by a black man. He's THAT racist.

Blue Demon 05-09-2015 03:46 PM

I don't care for the gimmick. I appreciated each of them individually before and thought they were fine on their own.

Ermaximus 05-09-2015 06:41 PM

The fact that racist fuck Michael P.S. Hayes isn't involved with creative anymore=amazing for New Day.

DAMN iNATOR 05-09-2015 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 4628723)
Judging by the names I see voting against them, I'd say it has something to do with a general dislike of "the black people"

As far as I'm concerned, it has nothing to do with that. I don't hate them, it's just they have a very generic gimmick, which is why I'm still befuddled as to why they were allowed to go over Cesaro & Kidd cleanly for the tag titles at Extreme Rules. It's like, ok, you've told us over and over that you're trying to bring light into the world with positivity in general. But, how, specifically are you trying to do so?

DAMN iNATOR 05-09-2015 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sascha (Post 4628786)
I don't care for the gimmick. I appreciated each of them individually before and thought they were fine on their own.

NAILED IT.

Shadrick 05-09-2015 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4628828)
As far as I'm concerned, it has nothing to do with that. I don't hate them, it's just they have a very generic gimmick, which is why I'm still befuddled as to why they were allowed to go over Cesaro & Kidd cleanly for the tag titles at Extreme Rules. It's like, ok, you've told us over and over that you're trying to bring light into the world with positivity in general. But, how, specifically are you trying to do so?

Lol

Shadrick 05-09-2015 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sascha (Post 4628786)
I don't care for the gimmick. I appreciated each of them individually before and thought they were fine on their own.

What did you appreciate about Xavier Woods before New Day?

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-09-2015 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4628842)
What did you appreciate about Xavier Woods before New Day?

Being from Angel Grove, California.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-09-2015 10:39 PM

NEW DAY!

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-09-2015 10:39 PM

NEW CHAMPS!

Shadrick 05-10-2015 12:36 AM

*clap*

*clap clap*

Savio 05-10-2015 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4628719)
They don't do anything for me. Don't know why they won the tag titles.

Espn was doing a Doc starring Xavier Woods, at the end they were able to say he was a tag champ.

Kris P Lettus 05-10-2015 11:23 AM

I like the direction thaley have gone the past three weeks. Still could be better because all three guys are talented.

Ermaximus 05-10-2015 11:42 AM

New Day needs a diva.

Alicia Fox or Naomi?

Supreme Olajuwon 05-10-2015 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4628828)
As far as I'm concerned, it has nothing to do with that. I don't hate them, it's just they have a very generic gimmick, which is why I'm still befuddled as to why they were allowed to go over Cesaro & Kidd cleanly for the tag titles at Extreme Rules. It's like, ok, you've told us over and over that you're trying to bring light into the world with positivity in general. But, how, specifically are you trying to do so?

Got it. It's because they're black. SMDH:nono:

Savio 05-10-2015 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 4629082)
New Day needs a diva.

Alicia Fox or Naomi?

the diva HAS to be black?

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2015 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sascha (Post 4628786)
I don't care for the gimmick. I appreciated each of them individually before and thought they were fine on their own.

How were they "fine"? Kofi was losing to everyone. Big E was losing to Rusev. Xavier Woods was hardly on TV. This is good for ALL THREE of them. They're winning matches and getting mic time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4628828)
As far as I'm concerned, it has nothing to do with that. I don't hate them, it's just they have a very generic gimmick, which is why I'm still befuddled as to why they were allowed to go over Cesaro & Kidd cleanly for the tag titles at Extreme Rules. It's like, ok, you've told us over and over that you're trying to bring light into the world with positivity in general. But, how, specifically are you trying to do so?

Generic? I don't think I've ever seen a stable quite like this ever before. Please give me some examples of similar gimmicks, because I really want to understand your thoughts here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4629128)
the diva HAS to be black?

For some reason, I could see Alexa Bliss being a part of this stable.

Tom Guycott 05-10-2015 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4629128)
the diva HAS to be black?

That seems a bit "no win". If she's black, it's racist because they're all black. If she's white, it'll conjure black man with white wimminz stereotypes, even if there is no romantic angle to it whatsoever.

But honestly, Fox is underused. I wouldn't be adverse to her "turning her crazy life around to become more positive (but acts more crazy)"

Anybody Thrilla 05-10-2015 03:23 PM

I could see Alexa Bliss as the diva who is ACTUALLY trying to be positive, oblivious to New Day's cheating ways. They could even have her unintentionally cost their opponents matches in creative ways to where she TECHNICALLY was doing nothing wrong.

Savio 05-10-2015 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4629179)
That seems a bit "no win". If she's black, it's racist because they're all black. If she's white, it'll conjure black man with white wimminz stereotypes, even if there is no romantic angle to it whatsoever.

But honestly, Fox is underused. I wouldn't be adverse to her "turning her crazy life around to become more positive (but acts more crazy)"

Enter Rosa..... or Eva?

Eva would give them MASSIVE heel heat.

DAMN iNATOR 05-10-2015 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla
Generic? I don't think I've ever seen a stable quite like this ever before. Please give me some examples of similar gimmicks, because I really want to understand your thoughts here.

I'm not calling their gimmick a copycat one, I mean "generic" as in "watching paint dry is less mind-numbing than watching 3 guys clapping and chanting their stable name".

Blue Demon 05-10-2015 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4629171)
How were they "fine"? Kofi was losing to everyone. Big E was losing to Rusev. Xavier Woods was hardly on TV. This is good for ALL THREE of them. They're winning matches and getting mic time.

I meant the characters....whether or not they were winning and such is a different story.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-11-2015 12:43 AM

They had no character. Kofi was still using his Jamaican music and he dropped the gimmick.

Anybody Thrilla 05-11-2015 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4629242)
I'm not calling their gimmick a copycat one, I mean "generic" as in "watching paint dry is less mind-numbing than watching 3 guys clapping and chanting their stable name".

I guess you don't understand what 'generic' means, then. It's not generic. If you find it 'boring', that's on you, and that's your right. But it's not generic. Generic would be akin to the same thing you see all the time. It's not that. You could even go as far as to say that the desired face effect of the stable was flat out stupid (as Gertner pointed out, and I agree with), but generic is not the sentiment here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sascha (Post 4629254)
I meant the characters....whether or not they were winning and such is a different story.

Kofi Kingston pinned Randy Orton on Monday Night Raw. Just think about that. Winning means something.

Shadrick 05-11-2015 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4629366)
I guess you don't understand what 'generic' means, then. It's not generic. If you find it 'boring', that's on you, and that's your right. But it's not generic. Generic would be akin to the same thing you see all the time. It's not that. You could even go as far as to say that the desired face effect of the stable was flat out stupid (as Gertner pointed out, and I agree with), but generic is not the sentiment here.



Kofi Kingston pinned Randy Orton on Monday Night Raw. Just think about that. Winning means something.

i fucking marked. and i was like "take THAT 2009!"

Tom Guycott 05-11-2015 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4629218)
Enter Rosa..... or Eva?

Eva would give them MASSIVE heel heat.

You should have stopped with Rosa. I don't care at this juncture how over they want to get the female Sin Cara, even with "improvement" Eva needs to stay the hell away.

Mr. Nerfect 05-12-2015 10:46 PM

When Eva comes back, she needs Brian Kendrick in her corner. Feel good story.

I hate that the WWE has never done anything with Big E, Kofi or Woods before. Like, I had the care for all three beaten out of me. They've been fun as heels. Really fun.

Heisenberg 05-13-2015 12:29 AM

Katy Perry nude,

Settle down Rick Rude

Dukelorange 05-13-2015 10:37 AM

The New Day is really good right now. They need to develop more of a Kurt Angle vibe with it. Have more excessive celebrations. They heel subtle heel tactics need to increase slightly. But I'm just nit picking. They are pretty good as is.

rad dggy dg 05-13-2015 11:53 AM

I wish Teddy Long would manage A New Day

Kris P Lettus 05-13-2015 01:30 PM

It would be funny if Paige was their diva bc she is beyong white.

jaycool2k 05-13-2015 02:01 PM

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rANZw23AWTU/hqdefault.jpg

This was the best Kofi

Mr. Nerfect 05-14-2015 06:24 PM

I want to be annoying and talk about how Kofi had so much potential as a top babyface, and that it's lame his heel turn came so subtly after failing to do much with him for years; but now that they have Sami Zayn as that style of babyface, Kofi should probably look to inhabit a different role.

Heyman 05-14-2015 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4628488)
When they started, we thought it had potential. When they debuted, they sharted. Now with the heel turn...what do you think?

Personally, they've been insanely entertaining to me. I'm also relieved that they haven't been continually shoved down our throats the face route. WWE noticed real reactions and had the characters respond in kind. It's refreshing.

What do you think?




#HugeFan.


I'm also a fan of the newly created tag team of Axelmania and Machomandow or whatever he's called.

Anybody Thrilla 05-16-2015 02:16 PM

Probably The New Mega Powers or something, but I am not a fan of that team whatsoever. I like Axel, though.

Ermaximus 05-16-2015 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heyman (Post 4631806)
#HugeFan.


I'm also a fan of the newly created tag team of Axelmania and Machomandow or whatever he's called.

If these two don't win the tag titles at some point, I'd be highly disappointed as they are honestly looking to be one of the more entertaining teams WWE has.

Heyman 05-16-2015 03:01 PM

Meta Powers. Just saw some of their promo's. They're ok I guess. Not as good as I thought they were going to be. Curtis Axel seems to "mono tone" to play the character. He almost sounds like a poor man's Orton when he speaks. Hopefully, thy get better. The team has potential but they aren't quite there yet.

Ermaximus 05-16-2015 08:13 PM

Sandow is quite the amazing character. Reminds me of when Charlie Haas used to portray a new gimmick every week on Raw.

Bad News Gertner 05-16-2015 09:49 PM

I think it's entertaining as all hell. They should get a diva to be Miss Elizabeth and just completely re-create the angle where Liz gets injured and Axel carries her to the back.

The Mega Powers explode on WWE Superstars!!!!!!

Jazzy Foot 05-16-2015 11:24 PM

I can't stand them personally but I accepted a while back that Langston and Kingston were never going to be main event players (in the WWE at least) and so this is the only way for them remain relevant.

Big Vic 06-09-2015 11:13 AM

Really pulling for Kofi (New Day) to win the briefcase.

XL 06-09-2015 04:40 PM

Could it be that WWE planned this all a long?

If they made their new group of black superstars heel straight away they'd have got some flak. By making them faces, but faces that the faces would hate, it's the fans that have turned them, not management.

Anybody Thrilla 06-09-2015 04:59 PM

I would love to believe they were that thoughtful, but I doubt it.

Regardless, I'm happy with how it has turned out.

KIRA 06-09-2015 05:44 PM

Complete 180 a rare brilliant move by WWE writers have them keep everything that's supposed to make them faces and make them be insufferable upbeat obnoxious dicks about it. Plus the heel turn acknowledges the fact that fans hate them which WWE rarely lets affect a character.
I would be all for Alica Fox in the New DAY (does the member have to be black )Bo dallas would fit nicely with them.

KIRA 06-09-2015 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4628828)
As far as I'm concerned, it has nothing to do with that. I don't hate them, it's just they have a very generic gimmick, which is why I'm still befuddled as to why they were allowed to go over Cesaro & Kidd cleanly for the tag titles at Extreme Rules. It's like, ok, you've told us over and over that you're trying to bring light into the world with positivity in general. But, how, specifically are you trying to do so?

You really haven't noticed how unrealistically positive and enthusiastic they are about EVERYTHING to the point of being tooth-decaying?

NormanSmiley 06-10-2015 05:49 PM

They aint shit without shelton benjamin

James Steele 06-10-2015 07:28 PM

New Dayy should get a white guy to join them ala Owen in the Nation.

Shisen Kopf 06-10-2015 07:31 PM

Love the New Day. In fact, I think they most definitely ROCK.


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