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Old School Wrestling Thread
Have always wondered why we didn't have one of these. Thought it'd be a good spot to post old matches, thoughts and pictures from the the WWF, NWA and the rest of the territories.
Just finally watched Billy Graham's 20 Years Too Soon DVD. Been meaning to watch this for a while. Very good documentary. Happy they showed the Dusty rhodes vs Graham Texas Death Match. Such incredible mic work between those two. Still can't believe Billy adopted a martial arts gimmick. |
Your my boy Blue!
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this is a great idea!
Dusty's feud and matches with Superstar were great. It's too bad Dusty didn't have a long term run in the WWWF/WWF til late in his career. in the mid to late 70s he would've been awesome there. Dusty in his final MSG appearance til 1989. Dusty Rhodes vs Wild Samoan #3 (Samu) from 5/23/1983 <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ct1JUZAobzU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Terry Funk vs jobber Bruce Walkup in an empty arena cage match from Florida tv -Terry is just awesome here <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nKnN3swF-zw?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Ted Dibiase https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...ee&oe=55A28625 Ricky Steamboat and Nick Bockwinkel https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...72&oe=55A6DE3B The Sheepherders/The Bushwhackers https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...3598300f7b7259 JJ Dillon https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...69&oe=55A08E9E Mid South Tag Team Champions Terry Gordy and Michael Hayes https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...75&oe=559EEDDE Stan Hansen and Bruiser Brody https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...1d&oe=55AC2E39 Nick Bockwinkel and Lou Thesz https://scontent-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...52464336_o.jpg George Wagner before he became Gorgeous George https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.n...285c384cd0ca66 |
Lol the seth82 photo thread mk II
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I suppose old school to you is 1998. |
From "The Brawl To End It All", July 23rd, 1984, here's The Fabulous Moolah (Women's Champion) v. Wendi Richter, back when women's wrestling was somewhat watchable and actually mattered:
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most of these girls today can't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. All Japan Women's Pro Wrestling had some amazing matches over the years. normal ladies tag team partners Manami Toyota and Toshiyo Yamada fight it out in this classic hair match. <iframe width="640" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5G1eajW9Lcc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Glamour Girls va Jumping Bomb Angels still holds up. Judy Martin was a hell of a worker.
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How old is old school?
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My favorite tag team match of all time is The Steiners vs Steve Williams and Terry Gordy from Beach Blast '92. Does that count? I need to know the rules here.
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Fucking love All Japan Women
Probably my favorite women's match of all time right here. Chigusa vs Masami. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/idAkyY5DmRE?list=PLrBLaug4BwUzoHl2TUw0j9S-mcGkuwrg3" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yIsJgT7giLY?list=PLrBLaug4BwUzoHl2TUw0j9S-mcGkuwrg3" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nB1A0DBW-Mg?list=PLrBLaug4BwUzoHl2TUw0j9S-mcGkuwrg3" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/4uHt7t4dRxI?list=PLrBLaug4BwUzoHl2TUw0j9S-mcGkuwrg3" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/E3zmrbOBdPQ?list=PLrBLaug4BwUzoHl2TUw0j9S-mcGkuwrg3" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> SPOILER: show |
Honestly, everyone raves about the early 90's era of AJW, with Minami Toyota and Dreamslam and all that, but my favorite era has gotta be the 80's. Crush Gals vs Gokuaku Domei was fucking HEATED.
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this thread is to discuss old school wrestling by sharing pictures, videos and etc. do us a favor and stay the fuck outta here. |
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ladies wrestling here has usually been treated as a joke not counting Lita and etc. |
I dunno, Shimmer is pretty good. And NXT has some pretty good Divas matches occasionally.
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Charlotte is gonna be a good one to watch. |
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you have no idea what you are saying, once again. |
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Besides Seth, has anyone else seen Dick Murdoch wrestle before? By far my favourite of that era.
He seemed to amp up the Three Stooges stuff when he hit the WWF, especially in singles matches. I have a match from an old MSG show in 1984 where he faces Afa, and all Dick Murdoch does is bump hilariously with his amazing facial expressions and call Afa a Jungle Bunny. The most entertaining 20 draw I've ever seen. The crowd at one point gave Murdoch who was the heel a standing ovation after a hilarious drawn out bump. |
Really into pre-expansion WWF. 1983 in particular. Very cool watching the transformation.
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He seemed to be famous for doing the 3 Stooges act.
its almost alarming he was only 37 in 1984 in the WWF. He looks like a guy 10-20 years older. Pre-Expansion WWF is actually pretty interesting and fun to watch. Bob Backlund however held onto the belt for much too long for my liking. a young Curt Hennig versus Crippler Ray Stevens in WWF '83 <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QpT0VeZasZ8?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> The Wild Samoans versus Curt Hennig and Eddie Gilbert <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/8Cwj90C3Y7I?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> "Blue Angel" Owen Hart vs Barry Horowitz in a fantastic match from 8/13/88 in Los Angeles <iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x37aau" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x37aau_blue-angel-owen-hart-vs-barry-horo_sport" target="_blank">"Blue Angel" Owen Hart vs. Barry Horowitz</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/Stinger1981" target="_blank">Stinger1981</a></i> |
Couple matches in Japan. Can't remember if it was Aj or Nj. Murdoch was a great heel.
Wish wwe had done more with Trevor. He was a unique character. |
Watched a Ivan Putski vs Billy Graham from 1977 with Graham as champ. The crowd HATED Graham and ent nuts for Putski.
Later watched Backlund vs Graham 1982 and the crowd was dead. Keep in mind, this was Graham's martial arts gimmick. Both matches at MSG. I never got Bob Backlund. His comebacks just came off so phony. |
Question: of the 3 Wise Men, how would you rank them?
I'd go 1. Albano 2. Grand Wizard 3. Blassie |
Adrian Adonis and Dick Murdoch versus Billy Gasper and Bobby Gasper.
the masked Gasper brothers were Bob Orton Jr and Barry Orton. This was a month or so before Adonis died. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/RhfATZcLHFs?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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2. Lou Albano 3. Freddie Blassie I gotta put Wiz at number one for me. He was just awesome on the mic as a manager. Him and Superstar Billy Graham were awesome. |
Blassie always seemed to have the worst stable of wrestlers.
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Tony and Rocky reportedly couldn't stand each other in real life. |
I still need an answer to my question before I contribute here...
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Wrestling began in 97 and ended in 2001. Nothing worth while before that point.
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sounds like a great cut off point. |
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David Crockett interviews Killer Karl Kox in this rare interview from 1975.
<iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/H656aim-sQc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Ole Anderson/Gene Anderson vs Ric Flair/Greg Valentine from 1977. -Wahoo McDaniel is the special guest referee in this cage match. -Ole and Gene were just a tremendous heel team in the 70s. Flair and Valentine were also great as a team. A couple of young cocky guys. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Y5GD38k9PMk?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Wahoo McDaniel vs Johnny Valentine from 1974 These two had one of the greatest feuds in Crockett Promotions. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gsd3Xml25Qo?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> The Super Destroyer (Don Jardine aka The Spoiler) vs Jerry Brisco from 1974 <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/k5Jxr8oPQRs?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
Killer Karl Kox or KKK is one of owenbrown's all time favorites.
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Ric Flair was only any good as Triple H's lackey in Evolution.
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this is how you cut a promo.
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Bought the Best of Madison Square Garden DVD.
Amazing DVD. Lots of great matches throughout the years. A must buy. |
Watching Pedro Morales vs Ivan Koloff for the WWWF Championship
Other matches from that era on the DVD: Backlund vs Harley Race :Champion vs Champion Graham vs Bruno for the WWWF Championship Backlund vs Patera Texas Death Match |
I was surprised at so little footage they put on that dvd from the 70s and early 80s.
Most of that footage is available to them as it aired on tv. |
I wish I knew someone in Japan.
fuck this shirt is awesome. It goes on sale next month at Korakuen Hall. https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...f6&oe=56094902 |
hi everyone its me rad dggy dg and my favorite old school wrestler is greg the hammer valentine damn it
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When Greg Valentine goes out drinking he gets hammered! Jajajajajaja
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Did you ever see the time Greg Valentine wrestled Panhandle Sue for the Southern States Intergender Championship?
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lol this is great
JJ Dillon presents Dusty Rhodes with a gift <iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2eei8l" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2eei8l_jj-dillon-presents-dusty-rhodes-with-a-present-florida-1982_sport" target="_blank">JJ Dillon Presents Dusty Rhodes With A Present...</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/RoyLucier" target="_blank">RoyLucier</a></i> RIP to the late Jumbo Tsuruta who died today in 2000. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/KEQyBuLMRSc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> One of the greatest pound for pound workers ever imho. It sucks his AWA title run wasn't better received in the States. He was actually booed while working as a face. https://scontent-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hp...c1&oe=55CD3029 |
this is hilarious
The Saga of the Family skit: JJ Dillon pays a visit to the Headlock 2 Ranch where Blackjack Mulligan and Dusty Rhodes are working on the farm <iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="270" src="//www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x2ebljf" allowfullscreen></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ebljf_the-saga-of-the-family-skit-jj-dillon-and-dusty-rhodes-florida_sport" target="_blank">The Saga of the Family Skit JJ Dillon and Dusty...</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/RoyLucier" target="_blank">RoyLucier</a></i> |
JJ Dillon knew how to live his gimmick, that's for damn sure. Amazing heel.
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I met JJ Dillon at the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame a few years ago.
That's about all I can add to this thread. |
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His work in Florida and Crockett Promotions was just amazing. His feud with Dusty Rhodes in Florida was just awesome. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/w0ur5SKS07Q?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Championship Wrestling from Florida-Summer 1983. NWA World Heavyweight Championship. Dusty Rhodes (challenger) vs Harley Race (champion). Ron Bass is special referee. Since his arrival in Florida, Ron Bass had been a popular babyface often teaming with Dusty and Barry Windham and feuding with Angelo Mosca. Shortly after Bass' turn, J.J. Dillon became his "exclusive" manager and together they had a successful run in Florida. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/AnqSbxTW2bc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Ron Bass gives his version of the events that led to his split with Dusty Rhodes. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/W3Z1YAtU9bQ?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Dusty in these clips proves why he's considered one of the greatest talkers. You really believe he's distraught over the fact that his best friend just turned his back on him. |
The Four Horsemen? More like The Bore Foursome!
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Keep going, Iginfest. I'm not sure that you've convinced everyone that you don't like old school.
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Definitely weird to see King Kong Bundy with hair in World Class.
Also it is truly insane how over these Von Erich boys were in Texas. The girls are all over Kevin as he comes to the ring. Some fan even tries to pull off his ring jacket. This is supposedly his first match Kevin wrestles barefoot. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/Z-ZsgqAkijo?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
if you wanna know more about why fans to this day love the Von Erich boys in Texas you need to see this documentary.
This one is a great companion piece to WWE's World Class documentary. this one was made by independent filmmaker Brian Harrison a year or so before Kevin sold the tapes to WWE. Their show aired on Saturday nights opposite of Saturday Night Live. World Class would get a 14 rating whereas SNL would get a 9 or 10 rating. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/MFRGSgAyztY?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
I always enjoyed WCCW, far more than any of the NWA territories. Great wrestling combined with a bit of "New York pizazz" . The wrestlers had a great degree of showmanship.
Hard to believe how many wrestlers from WCCW are now gone. Kerry, David, Chris and Mike Von Erich Gino Hernandez Missing Link Chris Adams Buddy Roberts and Terry Gordy Bruiser Brody Etc.... It's really amazing how few stars from that territory are left. |
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the way they lit the arena, the musical entrances, the vignettes & etc. WCCW was doing stadium shows for their big events long before WWE made it popular. these guys are all dead too at a young age: Buzz Sawyer Matt Borne Bam Bam Bigelow Mike Davis Scott Irwin Referee/Ring Announcer Ralph Pulley - Died from AIDS in 1992 Rick Rude Jeff Raitz Jeep Swenson Haru Sonada Billy Travis |
Without a doubt. WWF's weekly T.V was pretty pedestrian at that time.
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WCCW is responsible for the greatest rasslin song ever. Let's all sing along...R-A-S-S-L-I-N that's rasslin! Woooooo
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to me the saddest story of the Von Erichs would be Mike.
Mike didn't want to wrestle. His dad Fritz pushed him into it. He wanted a career in music as he liked playing guitar. It got worse after David's death as he now had to be the replacement for David due to their similar facial features. Mike shoulder injury and subsequent battle with Toxic Shock Syndrome really threw him for a loop. He had really high fevers of 106-108 degrees which fried his brain badly. His in ring work was never comparable to a Ric Flair or a Lou Thesz. He was downright awful to be quite honest. Mike's in ring work suffered greatly after the Toxic Shock. His promos got worse due to his now slurred speech. His dad does he all he can to shove Mike back in the ring as soon as possible. He returned to the ring some 11 months later in July 1986. Mike's addiction to Alcohol and Drugs worsened after the hospitalization as he was depressed and frustrated. He was tired of having to be David. He ultimately ended up committing suicide by overdosing on placidyl. Kerry presents Mike with his old ring jacket for Mike's first match. Michael Hayes of course interrupts and destroys it. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BztGYXmjxZ0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Mike Von Erich press conference with his doctor, Kevin and Kerry at Baylor Hospital <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/HQLfmeueKUI?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> An interview with David, Kevin, Kerry and Mike before Mike's debut match with Skandar Akbar <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SP_bNIS5hb0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Mike Von Erich's debut match with Skandor Akbar at Reunion Arena <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/SJQzL2YpDBc?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Freebird Buddy Roberts comes out to harass Mike Von Erich -little brother Chris bashes Buddy with a chair <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/qJj770Q2t-0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Ric Flair carries Mike to a 10 minute draw. <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/BfQzo56OQbU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> this is a wild fun six man tag match The Freebirds vs Kerry, Dave and Mike -If The Birds win, Hayes and Gordy are reinstated after losing loser leave town matches <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fhSXvhhlnsQ?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
two classic WCCW matches that are must see.
Kevin Von Erich vs Chris Adams at the Cotton Bowl in 1984 -Adams solidifies his heel turn by hitting Kevin in the back of the head with a chair <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ViVS-8NObos?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> This is the infamous Haircut match from Cotton Bowl Extravagaganza in 1985 Kevin and Kerry vs The Dynamic Duo (Gino Hernandez/Chris Adams) <iframe width="480" height="360" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/crVe7cKnHzU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> |
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