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#BROKEN Hasney 06-16-2015 06:45 AM

XBox 1 XBox 360 Backwards Compatability
 
Huge feature announced by Microsoft. This is available right now in beta if you're part of the XBox preview program and by holiday for full release.

It is going to be like the OG Xbox compatibility on the 360, as in only tested games work. MS have setup a page for you to vote which games they should get working though, so vote for what you want to see:

http://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/298...ty/filters/top

drave 06-16-2015 06:58 AM

I went and flagged all the CoD requests as inappropriate.

Heisenberg 06-16-2015 10:09 AM

CoD 4: Modern Warfare should get a push

road doggy dogg 06-16-2015 10:19 AM

I haven't been able to watch most E3 coverage as I'm in the office all week. How is this being accomplished? I was under the impression that the "architecture" of the system was different and thus the discs could not/would not (CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP) in the new console. Or was that just for PS4?

#BROKEN Hasney 06-16-2015 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4651353)
I haven't been able to watch most E3 coverage as I'm in the office all week. How is this being accomplished? I was under the impression that the "architecture" of the system was different and thus the discs could not/would not (CAN'T STOP WON'T STOP) in the new console. Or was that just for PS4?

Just software emulation. It's pretty impressive that MS is able to emulate the PowerPC CPU on this hardware.

road doggy dogg 06-16-2015 10:23 AM

Will there be noticeable input lag etc with that?

drave 06-16-2015 10:25 AM

Doubtful, since you aren't streaming them.

road doggy dogg 06-16-2015 10:26 AM

nice

drave 06-16-2015 10:27 AM

Wonder if "games with gold" free games transfer to X1 from 360 too..... that would be fucking awesome.

I keep downloading the free titles, but never get around to playing them.

The Mask 06-16-2015 10:33 AM

Niceeee

#BROKEN Hasney 06-16-2015 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4651356)
Will there be noticeable input lag etc with that?

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4651357)
Doubtful, since you aren't streaming them.

Yeah, it's like playing an emulator on your PC. Keep hoping they'll announce support in Windows 10 to play 360 games now.

Emperor Smeat 06-16-2015 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4651359)
Wonder if "games with gold" free games transfer to X1 from 360 too..... that would be fucking awesome.

I keep downloading the free titles, but never get around to playing them.

They should since Microsoft said digital games would be covered as well. All up to the publishers though since they get final say.

Fignuts 06-16-2015 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 4651350)
CoD 4: Modern Warfare should get a push

Voted for all 3 modern warfare games.

Can say what you will about multiplayer and it's cursing 12 year olds, but the campaign that stretches through the 3 games is fucking awesome.

World at War/Black Ops trilogy is pretty solid too, but not as good.

drave 06-17-2015 06:35 AM

LOVE WaW multiplayer.

Quote:

Voted for all 3 modern warfare games.
Flagging YOU as inappropriate :shifty:

Disturbed316 06-17-2015 06:46 AM

Red Dead Redemption is currently top. Absolutely loved that game but not sure I want to go back unless it's a new adventure.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-17-2015 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disturbed316 (Post 4651870)
Red Dead Redemption is currently top. Absolutely loved that game but not sure I want to go back unless it's a new adventure.

It makes sense though. Apparently the code of the game is utterly awful, so now the studio is shut down, it can't even be easily ported to PC and played that way. The PS3 version is much worse than the 360 version, so 360 is the only way you can really play it right now.

The Rogerer 06-17-2015 07:11 AM

I'd say getting RDR running will be a nightmare. This is a strange feature. It's inherently difficult, and it's only really worked well where there's been the physical hardware in the system: PS2 had an actual PS1 chip in it, Wii U has a Wii chip in there, the first run of PS3s had the PS2 hardware in there and still struggled.

The 360 backwards compatibility with the original Xbox had very spotty coverage, I'd say this will be the same. It's probably alright in that they can add a load of these games on the Arcade. Otherwise it means that loads of people will just pick up a load of old discs for a few bucks in second hand places.

COD is a weird choice, I mean the old servers are still running and that's great, this would technically extend that expectation for a lot longer. I wouldn't hold my breath that they would run perfectly well though.

Kalyx triaD 06-17-2015 07:13 AM

I'm in the preview program but none of the games I have are on the list sooooooo. Waiting game.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-17-2015 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rogerer (Post 4651874)
I'd say getting RDR running will be a nightmare. This is a strange feature. It's inherently difficult, and it's only really worked well where there's been the physical hardware in the system: PS2 had an actual PS1 chip in it, Wii U has a Wii chip in there, the first run of PS3s had the PS2 hardware in there and still struggled.

They got the PS2 emulation a lot better in the end. I have a modded PS3 without the BC hardware and it can play pretty much every PS2 game I throw at it. I doubt they'll ever get PS3 on PS4 in the same way, but I really hope they add PS2/PS1 games even if they only support PSN purchases.

Nintendo has benefited from using the same family of chips for the last 3 consoles. The Wii U can play Gamecube games perfectly when modded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4651875)
I'm in the preview program but none of the games I have are on the list sooooooo. Waiting game.

Can you buy them from XBL, or is that only going to be able to do in the final version?

Kalyx triaD 06-17-2015 07:35 AM

Any 360 game you wanna purchase after the fact must be done in 360 and Xbox.com's marketplaces. Can't buy 360 games from the Xbox One. Hilariously.

Heisenberg 06-17-2015 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4651744)
Voted for all 3 modern warfare games.

Can say what you will about multiplayer and it's cursing 12 year olds, but the campaign that stretches through the 3 games is fucking awesome.

World at War/Black Ops trilogy is pretty solid too, but not as good.



The Modern Warfare games were awesome. I still have them all, but it'll be too sweet to play on the One

Emperor Smeat 06-19-2015 07:18 PM

According to fan voting so far, Red Dead Redemption is leading all Xbox 360 games as the most requested game for BC treatment.

Quote:

Tops is Red Dead Redemption with 34,862 votes, followed by Call of Duty: Black Ops II, Skyrim, Halo: Reach, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2.
http://www.destructoid.com/red-dead-...y-294421.phtml

Kalyx triaD 06-19-2015 07:19 PM

Idiots.

Halo Reach may likely get added to MCC. R* games are shoe-ins.

drave 06-19-2015 07:20 PM

Need to get in on preview program :(

Kalyx triaD 06-19-2015 10:27 PM

I'll see if I can invite you later. I was invited myself so I don't if it's meant to be a 'viral' thing.

drave 06-20-2015 01:50 AM

only way is via invite. And I would truly appreciate that :D

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-20-2015 02:28 AM

I think I would like my R trigger to not break. No way I'm playing Mass Effect on my Xbox One. Pretty dumb the number of votes GTA V has. Should be disqualified because there is a One version.

Red Dead deserves to be number one. I've got a digital version I'd love to transfer to my One.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-20-2015 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4651879)
Any 360 game you wanna purchase after the fact must be done in 360 and Xbox.com's marketplaces. Can't buy 360 games from the Xbox One. Hilariously.

That actually makes sense. You don't want idiot customers buying games for the wrong system. They'd complain that the graphics look bad if they thought they were buying a One game.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-20-2015 03:36 AM

You'll be able to buy 360 games once the feature is fully launched, just like you could OG XBox games in the 360 marketplace. It's just not there yet.

Dukelorange 06-20-2015 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4653397)
I think I would like my R trigger to not break. No way I'm playing Mass Effect on my Xbox One. Pretty dumb the number of votes GTA V has. Should be disqualified because there is a One version.

Red Dead deserves to be number one. I've got a digital version I'd love to transfer to my One.

If you got the XBOne AFTER you got GTA V, I could see the reason. Why would you drop all that money, when you could just play the game you have.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-20-2015 11:15 PM

I want WrestleFest. 2K needs to bring that back to market. They own THQ now.

Tom Guycott 06-21-2015 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4651879)
Any 360 game you wanna purchase after the fact must be done in 360 and Xbox.com's marketplaces. Can't buy 360 games from the Xbox One. Hilariously.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4653399)
That actually makes sense. You don't want idiot customers buying games for the wrong system. They'd complain that the graphics look bad if they thought they were buying a One game.

Not so much if they:

A) took the time to make the XBONE marketplace less shit

B) added additional and highly intrusive "disclaimer" during the purchase process that beats you over the head with the fact that is indeed a 360 game

C) took the time to make the XBONE interfaces more intuitive

D) took the time to make the XBONE marketplace less shit, and

E) took the time to make the XBONE marketplace less shit.

Seriously, the games don't appear to be chronological. They sure as hell aren't alphabetical. They're just randomly listed as available titles. Unless you specifically know what you're looking for in a search, just browsing titles is nonsensically labyrinthine. And since it is already done better on the 360, why is this a problem?


As for the BC itself, just seems to be two glaring issues. First is the dual "friends" thing seeming to wreak havoc on parties and invites... at least I guess that's what's causing the issue. Second is any (X) function doesn't quite seem to have a workaround, it functions exactly as it should on the One, which means no checking achievements and such. Though I would have sworn I saw how somewhere. ..

And the list of games compiles from what you may or may not have available. I only had 5 titles. 7 with disc games included. Then, two of the games inexplicably vanished off my list, though still available to play from my games section instead of the preview menu.

alvarado52 06-23-2015 12:31 AM

Opted out of the preview program because I was tired of being booted offline for updates every other week. They really need to prompt that once you dashboard, not in the middle of a fucking game.

Question for anyone who's been able to play 360 games on the One...do your saves come with you? Im curious how they go about that, or do they simply expect you to start all over?

Tom Guycott 06-23-2015 12:38 AM

From what I understand, unless you cloud saved for whatever title, you start from scratch. That's where the BC gamesaves go as well if you start anew.

The Rogerer 06-24-2015 05:45 PM

Isn't this feature releasing officially for Christmas? How does that line up with them giving Fallout 3 away with Fallout 4... I guess you can wait.

Also Fallout 3 struggled enough to run on a 360. If they manage that port somehow, hats off to them.

Emperor Smeat 06-24-2015 08:08 PM

RARE states their Xbox 360 games being made backwards compatible for the Xbox One will include all of its DLC for free.

http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-...e-294693.phtml

Kalyx triaD 06-25-2015 01:02 AM

The Viva Pinata fans are gonna freak.

Tom Guycott 06-25-2015 02:05 AM

As per the report, I'm a little bummed about the Defense Grid DLC (I imagine I'm the only one). It actually does include ONE of them; "Borderlands" (no, not related to that one in any way), but didn't include "You Monster", but I assume that has to do more with license issues with Valve with it being Portal themed.

In fact, I'd guess that the delay between now for preview members and holiday window for official launch may be as much for resolving any digital rights issues by then as ironing out technical bugs.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-25-2015 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4656246)
The Viva Pinata fans are gonna freak.

Best to buy Rare Replay really though. Such fantastic value.

Emperor Smeat 07-06-2015 06:55 PM

Criterion Games currently in talks with Microsoft to make Burnout Paradise backwards compatible for the Xbox One.

http://www.destructoid.com/burnout-p...e-295423.phtml

Disturbed316 07-07-2015 03:39 AM

They need to do a new Burnout, but a proper one like the originals.

Emperor Smeat 07-09-2015 07:09 PM

Ubisoft recently joined the growing list of studios interested in having their Xbox 360 games be made compatible for the Xbox One. Teased they will do it more as a way to revitalize certain IPs like the Splinter Cell series.

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The latest nod of approval comes from Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot. During a post-earnings financial call this morning, he said that the new Xbox One feature is "very good news for the industry." He applauded what it means for consumers to be able to revisit their library despite jumping forward in console technology, but he also mentioned what it means for Ubisoft. "It will help some of the brands, like Splinter Cell for us, come to Xbox One, which is great," he said.
http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-s...y-295684.phtml

Reavant 07-10-2015 01:54 AM

MK9 and injustice are in

Emperor Smeat 07-22-2015 07:22 PM

For those in the preview program, RARE revealed the reason why all their currently available BC games have to be re-downloaded. Official reason is related to the upcoming Rare Replay game for the Xbox One and them wanting to make sure select games in the Rare Replay set will also work as a standalone if they are included in the BC program.

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A representative for Rare and Xbox has responded by stating "The process is a necessary step that allows gamers to play some of our beloved titles with or without Rare Replay, that includes these titles and 21 more. This action is only to better the fans and allow more people access to the titles."
http://www.destructoid.com/all-of-ra...n-296410.phtml

Emperor Smeat 07-27-2015 07:02 PM

Castle Crashers and Borderlands currently rumored to be in the next batch of games getting the BC treatment according to recent rumors.

http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-cla...y-296708.phtml

drave 07-28-2015 06:41 AM

Awesome.

No troubles out of the preview build yet. Enjoying the shit out of Mass Effect. Game definitely feels "better" than I remember.

Emperor Smeat 08-04-2015 07:02 PM

Backwards compatibility will be available to all Xbox One owners this November. List itself will also includes games that were included in the Xbox 360's Games for Gold service.

Quote:

As part of its gamescom press conference, it was revealed that backward compatibility will be available to everyone in November of this year.
http://www.destructoid.com/xbox-one-...r-297189.phtml

Heisenberg 08-05-2015 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4675443)
Awesome.

No troubles out of the preview build yet. Enjoying the shit out of Mass Effect. Game definitely feels "better" than I remember.



saw you playing that, I'm not a preview member tho. Don't know the first step, kind of feel betrayed by Microsoft there

drave 08-05-2015 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 4681424)
saw you playing that, I'm not a preview member tho. Don't know the first step, kind of feel betrayed by Microsoft there

You have to be invited by MS or a friend. I will be more than happy to send an invite your way this evening.

It does take about 3 days for them to verify your system. Games you can download will appear in the "My Games and Apps" area, all the way to the right with games that are ready to install. I should clarify though - that is if you OWNED the digitial versions.

If you have a disc version of a game, you will need to put the disc in the X1, let it download and keep it in while playing.

Downloaded Gears of War I last night, but no chance to play yet.

drave 08-05-2015 11:06 PM

Invite sent. Took two days for mine to show up. Watch your messages. Took three days after I got the invite to verify the system.

Dark One 08-06-2015 12:39 AM

Sup. Can I get in on this preview action?

drave 08-06-2015 06:31 AM

NO! BECAUSE FUCK YOU THAT'S WHY!

drave 08-06-2015 06:40 AM

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Dark One 08-06-2015 10:57 AM

Gutted right now.

https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru...ions%20wwe.gif

drave 08-06-2015 11:53 AM

Send me your gamertag mayne :)

I'll send the invite tonight.

Dark One 08-06-2015 11:57 AM

GT: Saland

The glory of getting an Xbox 360 shortly after it came out is that my tag doesn't have to be 65 characters long and with 6 numbers.

Dark One 08-06-2015 11:59 AM

Also:

http://i.imgur.com/5dorL5t.gif

drave 08-06-2015 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4682077)
GT: Saland

The glory of getting an Xbox 360 shortly after it came out is that my tag doesn't have to be 65 characters long and with 6 numbers.

I changed mine 2 years ago or so because reasons.

GT - v1|2u5

I'll add you and all that fun stuff when home. Your GT makes me think of salad. I hate your GT because I hate salad.

drave 08-06-2015 12:20 PM

We're totes going to be best buddiez now, except your time zone is wank.

Dark One 08-06-2015 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4682083)
We're totes going to be best buddiez now, except your time zone is wank.

It's actually 2013 on the west coast. Just FYI.

Tom Guycott 08-06-2015 12:35 PM

So, on an updated front, my list of fresh BC games now includes Shadow Complex and Viva Pinata: Trouble In Paradise. Funny thing is, I already downloaded VP, and it's treating both as separate titles?

I'm likely missing some things, too. As I missed out on about a whole year of free games at one point due to lack of internet.

Emperor Smeat 08-20-2015 06:27 PM

Microsoft currently considering the possibility of having original Xbox games also be compatible for the Xbox One based on a recent tweet by Xbox boss Phil Spencer. Wouldn't be actually worked on until after they finish work on Xbox 360 game compatibility.

http://www.destructoid.com/original-...e-307095.phtml

Kalyx triaD 08-20-2015 06:35 PM

'Fuck for?

DAMN iNATOR 08-21-2015 01:13 AM

Because that would be fucking awesome. THAT'S WHY.

Kalyx triaD 08-21-2015 01:41 AM

If it gets NFL Street 2, sure.

Emperor Smeat 09-02-2015 08:00 PM

Square Enix currently working on getting Deus Ex Human Revolution added to the backwards compatibility list by the time Mankind Divided launches.

http://www.destructoid.com/deus-ex-h...y-308952.phtml

Emperor Smeat 09-03-2015 07:40 PM

Borderlands confirmed to be supported once the actual BC program launches this November. Major Nelson made the announcement today on his official blog.

Halo 3, Halo Wars, and Fable II also teased to be supported around the same time.

http://www.destructoid.com/borderlan...r-309113.phtml

Emperor Smeat 11-03-2015 07:08 PM

First 100 games to be officially compatible will be revealed on November 9th while these games themselves won't be playable on Xbox One until November 12th.

For some reference, Xbox 360 discs themselves still won't be playable on the Xbox One. Have to download an approved Xbox One compatible version first in order for the game itself to be playable on the Xbox One.
http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-wh...e-318813.phtml


Partial list of the games to be among the initial 100 hundred based on the preview program according to Microsoft:
Quote:

A Kingdom for Keflings
A World of Keflings
Alien Hominid HD
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
BattleBlock Theater
Defense Grid
Geometry Wars Evolved
Hexic HD
Jetpac Refuelled
Kameo
Mass Effect
N+
Perfect Dark
Perfect Dark Zero
Small Arms
Super Meat Boy
Toy Soldiers
Toy Soldiers: Cold War
Viva Piñata
Viva Piñata: TIP
Zuma
http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-al...s-294109.phtml

Emperor Smeat 11-09-2015 07:09 PM

Microsoft revealed the first batch of games to be officially backwards compatible on November 12th. 104 games overall with another batch arriving in December and then more added periodically.
  • A Kingdom for Keflings
  • A World of Keflings
  • Alien Hominid HD
  • Assassin’s Creed II
  • Asteroids & Deluxe
  • Banjo Kazooie: N n B
  • Banjo-Kazooie
  • Banjo-Tooie
  • BattleBlock Theater
  • Bejeweled 2
  • Bellator: MMA Onslaught
  • Beyond Good & Evil HD
  • Blood of the Werewolf
  • BloodRayne: Betrayal
  • Borderlands
  • Call of Juarez Gunslinger
  • Castle Crashers
  • Castlestorm
  • Centipede & Millipede
  • Condemned
  • Crazy Taxi
  • Deadliest Warrior: Legends
  • Defense Grid
  • DiRT 3
  • DiRT Showdown
  • Discs of Tron
  • Doom
  • Doom II
  • Dungeon Siege III
  • Earthworm Jim HD
  • Fable II
  • Fallout 3
  • Feeding Frenzy 2
  • Gears of War
  • Gears of War 2
  • Gears of War 3
  • Gears of War: Judgment
  • Golden Axe
  • Halo: Spartan Assault
  • Hardwood Backgammon
  • Hardwood Hearts
  • Hardwood Spades
  • Heavy Weapon
  • Hexic HD
  • Ikaruga
  • Jetpac Refuelled
  • Joy Ride Turbo
  • Just Cause 2
  • Kameo
  • LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean: The Video Game
  • LEGO Star Wars: TCS
  • Lode Runner
  • LUMINES LIVE!
  • Mass Effect
  • Metal Slug 3
  • Metal Slug XX
  • Might & Magic Clash of Heroes
  • Mirror’s Edge
  • Missile Command
  • Monday Night Combat
  • Monkey Island 2: SE
  • Monkey Island: SE
  • Ms. Splosion Man
  • Mutant Blobs Attack
  • N+
  • NBA JAM: On Fire Edition
  • NiGHTS into dreams…
  • OF: Dragon Rising
  • Pac-Man C.E.
  • PAC-MAN CE DX+
  • Perfect Dark
  • Perfect Dark Zero
  • Phantom Breaker: Battle Grounds
  • Pinball FX
  • Plants vs. Zombies
  • Prince of Persia
  • Putty Squad
  • R-Type Dimensions
  • Rayman 3 HD
  • Sacred Citadel
  • Sega Vintage Collection: Alex Kidd & Co.
  • Sega Vintage Collection: Golden Axe
  • Sega Vintage Collection: Monster World
  • Sega Vintage Collection: Streets of Rage
  • Shadow Complex
  • Sonic CD
  • Sonic The Hedgehog
  • Sonic The Hedgehog 2
  • Sonic The Hedgehog 3
  • Super Meat Boy
  • Supreme Commander 2
  • The Stick of Truth
  • Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas
  • Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six Vegas 2
  • Torchlight
  • Toy Soldiers
  • Toy Soldiers: Cold War
  • Tron: Evolution
  • Ugly Americans: Apocalypsegeddon
  • Viva Piñata
  • Viva Piñata: TIP
  • Wolfenstein 3D
  • Zuma
http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-th...s-319824.phtml

Emperor Smeat 11-12-2015 08:13 PM

Microsoft revealed a small catch with backwards compatibility when it comes to DLC from Xbox 360 games.

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“Right now, Backward Compatibility does not emulate the Xbox 360 store and new Xbox 360 games can be purchased on your Xbox 360 or via Xbox.com,” a Microsoft representative said to GameInformer. “We will support both digital and disc-based entitlements for Xbox 360 games running on Xbox One.”

Which is a fancy way of saying if you already own the DLC from when you first played the game on Xbox 360, all your DLC should be ready and waiting for you ... but if you didn't pick up the add-on the first time around, you won't be able to buy it via the Xbox Store on your Xbox One.
In order to get DLC from Xbox 360 games not bought before, it has to be bought from the official Xbox website or from the Xbox 360's marketplace. Can't purchase DLC from the Xbox One's marketplace. Afterwards, the DLC then becomes transferable to the Xbox One.

http://www.destructoid.com/here-s-ho...y-320409.phtml


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