X-Men: Apocalypse
 

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I dig it all. The characters look like their characters. I had a thought that since Days they would go for more authentic costumes. Very surprised Psylocke basically kept her costume.

I hate the Olivia Munn casting so much. Like so much. It makes me physically angry. I don't even know why. It just feels so wrong. Hate that she got famous by placating to nerds that would never be able to have sex with her and acting like she was interested in stuff that she isn't interested in.

Ugh. I need to cool off.

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noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Probably not healthy to get this upset over something as small as a comic book movie casting.

Miotch. I use hyperbole. That is a device used in language to accentuate a point. I have been doing it for 15 years on this website.

I love hyperbole!

Whoa.

Bro.

Your posts make me mentally dumber.

I think Apoc looks fine.

Munn still wouldn't be my first or second choice to be Psylocke but her sword training and costume certainly raises my spirits.

Aside from the sex with nerds thing (lol), I agree that she was obviously uninterested in the stuff she covered way back when. Way not a Morgon Webb.

Miotch. That's no way to treat a guy that just taught you something valuable. Mind your manners.

Still feel Apoc should have been played by a black guy, though.

The OOOOOOOOOOZZZZZZEEEEE is back!!!

UI know! That can not be unseen now

Yeah I dunno....sorta feel like 'Pac should have been a CG creation. He's always been portrayed as, even in basic form, someone of a significantly larger stature than everyone else.

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Why did he have to die :(

1) Can't say i disagree with Narc.

2) Thought Poc would be more.....i dunno.....terrifying? It's ok i guess.

Apocalypse looks meh. I do like that they're going with more colorful and outlandish costumes though. Always makes me happy to see the movies at least try a little bit to match the comics.

Yeah not sold on Apocalypse yet, but we'll see.

In fairness, I am holding them up to a very high standard with him being my favorite x-villain.

kind of was hoping Apoc would be grey/look somewhat similar to Thanos/Darkseid tbh

"I hope they make him grey despite the stinger in Days and about 20yrs of comics."

Thanos is pastel purple.

Off that, wonder how long before the DCCU gets to their cosmic baddies.

Why is Pac so small? Dude always looks like a beast and now hes smaller than me. Could they really not find someone that is freakishly big to play him?

I am by far the most casual comic book/movie person ever (Never complained about a certain casting/costume/or any other thing related to a comic book movie because COMICs) but this. does not seem right.

What did Munn lie about? Feel like people put way to much time into celebrity knowledge.

Munn didn't lie about anything. Just came off as disingenuous to me, especially compared to other people in that G4 era. Kinda like when Gamestop pairs the 'hot girl' with the 'nerdy guy' in their video promos. Ugh.

Can people in this thread stop calling him Pac? Real annoying for some reason....

Seconded

I called him Poc. I get to keep doing it.

Does this mean I'm getting X-Pac heat?

Ok gonna practice what I preach and not freak out about Apocalypse looking so...unimposing(he better at least have those badass little sayings about how awesome he is and why we suck next to him)
I'll wait and see the film.

Yeahhhhhh!!! Those pics are awesome! Apocalypse and Psylocke look very cool, and Magneto looks badass in that armour.

Lol at the Ivan Ooze comparison though.

Apocalypse looks terrible.

THAT GAMESTOP ASSHAT IS MY TRIGGER!

No, seriously... HE reeks of the supposed disingenuousness (roll with it) that you guys are accusing Olivia Munn of. And the females all seem to be in a rotating door from month to month while that same smug asshole is still pimping pre-orders on GSTV all these years later. What makes it worse is that (supposedly, now, given the sources it's grain of salt time) all the "VJs" (for lack of better term) were all supposedly GS store managers... and he just has this look of "yeah, fuckers... *I* was first, and I'm better than all you, and no matter what your sales numbers, you all WISH you were me!"

TL; DR: fuck that guy with a Guitar Hero controller.




As for Apocalypse... man, does he look underwhelming. The badest of asses, the first of all mutants, and he looks like one of the Rock Lords? He looks like he's wearing Arnie's Mr. Freeze outfit, and it's too big. He looks like a palate swapped Heat Man. He looks like a bad guy of the week from the Stargate series...

Wait, one more! He looks like:

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(I was going for a better pic with the blue tint, but nothing I saw was linkable on my tablet. You get the point, now hum the damned song!)

Isnt that the chick that wanted Chris Pine to plow her in the butt?

He looks very meh. Perhaps he'll be written as a bad ass but going on looks I'd take professor X in a fight.

He looks like Kelsey Grammers Beast with dog dicks coming out of his chin.

I thought the Rock would have been a perfect casting for Apoc

Too bad they don't make you physically skinnier instead eh bitch titties? :D

Can't wait for this movie by the way. Will be epic.

Yea grey is the way to go. Going to be a lot of blue mutants in this movie.

All was good until i saw this

Have some Tranya.

Wait wait wait wait wait

TPWW and the entire fucking internet is doing the same exact thing that they did during the initial stages of Days of Future Past.

Remember? Shots of Quicksilver leaked? And everyone laughed and said it looked awful? And then a cover shot on Entertainment magazine and everyone laughed some more and said he looked awful?

Remember what happened when the movie came out?

HE WAS FUCKING AWESOME

This is progressing the exact same way. Leaked photos. People laughing. Magazine cover. People laughing more.

So yeah. I am actually going to hold off on saying anything about Apocalypse til I see this movie. Cause I mocked Quicksilvers look, and then the film served me an entire keg of shut the hell up. I've learned my lesson.

I have no doubt that the characterization of Apocalypse will be fine but the look is too blue. If the movie wasn't named Apocalypse would you be able to tell that that was Apocalypse ?

Probably.

All the elements are there. The blue suit, piping, "A" on the belt, and big collar piece. Just remixed on a smaller frame.

Yeah it's hilarious how history repeats itself. Even before Days people were worried after shots of First Class came out.

Also, Apoc's live-action design isn't so alien that you can't tell it was him. He does have the general descriptors of the character.

I remember saying X-Men: First Class would suck coz a picture of Magneto with his helmet leaked and I thought it looked shite. That movie was awesome. I learned my lesson.

Apocalypse looks great. I don't know what people are expecting? You want a huge robot-looking guy with a great big A on this chest or something?

Yes. That's exactly what they want if the memes I've seen are any indication.

Did yall just get done reading this article or something?

No.

Yahoo, ffs.

There's a big difference between the Quicksilver and Apocalypse situations.

Quicksilver looking like a dork worked because he was a silly, dorky character. It was a fun part. If he would've been portrayed as a menacing character while looking like that it would've come off badly.

Apocalypse looks like a massive bellend in those pictures. If they play him off as a silly, campy villain then it might work, although I don't think a single person in the world wants to see a silly portrayal of Apocalypse.

You have failed trying to point out the difference. Your argument is still dependent on hindsight whether you intended that or not. Quicksilver had the best scene in the film. Nobody, nobody suggested he may be portrayed as a comic relief.

It is the exact same scenario.

Great post, I couldn't agree more.

The difference is that while they both look goofy as fuck, they both won't be portrayed that way. Quicksilver worked because the character was silly and fun. It's very unlikely Apocalypse will be a silly character.

They're not entirely comparible, other than the whole "don't judge a book by its cover" thing. I'm not even saying it will be shit. It just looks shite from these first images. Oscar Isaac is great though so hopefully he'll make it work.

I lean toward knowing Singer didn't lose his mind since doing two of the best X-Men movies in the series.

X-Men First Class still the best

Considering of the four good X movies, three of them were made by Singer, he gets the benefit of the doubt from me. I'm very excited for this. Plus, Psylocke looks amazing.

Man, I don't know about this. I mean, Aaron Rodgers' lady lands the role of Psylocke? How'd she pull that off? Keira Knightley not available or something?

Skeptical of some of the other castings, too. But we'll see how it plays out.

You've got to be joking about Apocalypse looking cool he doesn't look like he could pose a threat to to a Baskin Robbins let alone be THE BADASS unstoppable first mutant. He looks like any of the random mooks that got their asses kicked in GOTG. (I tried to hold back but the more I look at him the more disappointed I feel)

Yea the costume is all good but that face is horrible. Looks like a frost giant in Apocalypse's suit.

Is it possible they digitally enhance him to look like a badass?

Possibly he could get bigger so I assume that would be done digitally.

If he grows in size it would be for scale rather than bulking up like what you're thinking. In any case that's not important to his character.

And that's maybe the 1826th time having to say that.

They really should have went the Thanos route with Apocalypse.

You may not care about that element but its obvious a lot of people here do.

Now will the movie be complete shit if he does no get enhanced to look larger? No. But would he look better, in theory, if it happened. Yup.

Since the majority of successful superhero movie have had majorly grounded redesigns for characters I would argue that people do not care. It's always this rabid minority of people reviewing movies off one bad set-pic of a costume they don't like. They're wrong 98% of the time, as Figgy alluded to.

So no, I don't care that a lot of people care about that element. A lot of people have been humbled year after year.

lol And it's still not important to the character. I'd wager Singer agrees with me.

I get what Kalyx is saying and he is right to an extent. If the character is written strongly enough it really won't matter.

But it's true that he's not an imposing figure, which is very much a part of his character. This version doesn't look intimidating at all. Looks aren't everything, but he is the bad guy and is supposed the baddest mutant alive. That's not what I feel like I'm looking at. But we shall see. I'm sure the film itself will do the character justice.

You're such a politician, Rey.

Psylocke was a bookworm girl who transferred her mind to the body of a hot ninja chick.

Don't think they're gonna go with that original anyway. Easier to just have Psylocke always being that way.

Well the concept is absolutely ridiculous, but it is what it is. I normally am not actually that sensitive to actors not having to be the specific race they're portraying. But as you say, that is honestly the point of her character. They couldn't just have a Japanese character because how would you relate to one of those fucking weirdos. They had to make her a REAL PERSON who just looks Japanese... ie totally cool.

Fuck me comics are stupid

Here's one question:


Why not just keep Apocalypse the exact same way as he was depicted at the end of Days of Future Past? (i.e. simply portrayed, nothing overly extravagant, etc.).


Speaking of which, I absolutely loved Days of Future Past. Not only was it my favorite X-Men movie, but I loved it more than any of the Dark Knight Trilogy movies as well, which is saying a lot.

Dear Rog,

You realize they have in fact cast Asians in the X-Men franchise.

This is the problem with people like you. Look at what you're writing in the wake of not only a perfectly cast Jubilee, but a Wolverine movie where Logan was one of two white people in a majorly Japanese cast. Munn's casting is not some tacit hate on Japanese people.

Calm your ass down.

That would cause a bigger shitstorm than we already have. Things like his neck guard and bio-mechanical body has to be depicted in some way.

Fair enough. I actually don't follow any of the comics and so I have no idea how he's supposed to be depicted. In that case, yes, you are correct.


One question then - for the end of 'Days of First Class,' why did they exclude those details? (instead of just making him look like an anorexic Dr. Evil?).

what the fuck are you talking about you wanker? Trianglate this. I'm not outraged about it. The character is inherently stupid. The one defining trait she had was that she was a white person that physically became Japanese. So they just cast a flat faced yank who is popular with geeks. The character premise is stupid and the casting decision is amusing in that context. She had a flat face so that'll do. It's funny.

In the past a mutant was tantamount to a god (and I believe X-Men or some other work toyed with the idea that Jesus was himself a mutant/meta-human), so in Apoc's time he wasn't 'evil' so much as worshiped as a demi-god. All he needed back then in the movie-verse would be a robe really.

Depending on what they're keeping about him, we can assume based on what we see that he did apply bio-tech to his body, adapting to either humanity's advances in tech (as far it would be in the X-Men's version of the 80s) or full blown 616 alien shit, which would be big. The X-Men universe hasn't went cosmic quite yet and there's a lot of ground to cover with the Shi-Ar. This would also make possible a proper telling of the Phoenix saga.

Yes, all dependent on Apoc actually having alien tech.

I'm thinking you just really wanna point out that Munn has a flat face.

The person that cast her as Japanese did a better job at that.

Realize you're the one raising an issue. Like... the only one.

I had issues with Munn's casting but it nothing to do with her not being Japanese.

Shit man. You really know your X-Men, comics, video games inside and out. I'm pretty impressed.

I'm spread thin honestly. I know a lot but I have interests in a lot of media. For some real textbook shit you should hit up Fignuts and Nowhere Man. There's some others here I would also defer to.

I'm mostly big on narrative themes and story development. I often try to guess where a production goes.

Rather than, ya know, accuse people of some kind of racism. Like this guy I know.

You're assuming things again like a big SJW. Wake up McFly. HELLO

Yeah, and Wolverine is Canadian, yet almost always (I think Mark Hamill was like the exception to the rule) cast with an Australian.

If your point is you don't like post-mind transfer Psylocke as a concept, then I don't really know where you're going. The overwhelming public sees this woman as 'Psylocke' and multiple games and comics solidified the 'Japanese ninja woman' as the Psylocke.

So if your point is you didn't like the concept from the jump, not really sure why anybody should care about your misgivings with any casting concerning this version of Psylocke. Seems easier to just not comment on it [in the movie thread].

I'm sure it makes for interesting discussion in the general Marvel thread, since you're the first guy I know who prefers the original Psylocke.

I also disagree with her race being that important. You're just sort of saying that.

It is the most distinctive thing about the character. Never mind all your other wibbling.

I'd wager most of Psylocke's fans either don't know or care about her origin. Most media she's been in barely pay it mind. It is not some super distinctive thing. You're merely positing this.

It's an interesting detail, sure, but I'm 80% certain that's gonna get cut for this movie. And I'm 100% certain if they rebooted her in the comics to remove that detail and have her born a Japanese woman - only this guy named Rogerer would care.

What a bizarre card for you to play. Suddenly details don't matter, after you go into exhaustive history about Apocalyspe.

Well you see Heyman asked from a position of deference to know more about a character. He's a 'casual' fan who had fair questions.

You're like, "Munn isn't Japanese, flat face white gurl, because Japanese people aren't cast, and she's a dumb character anyway, arrrrgh" or whatever your point was.

You were trying to infer something that wasn't true. Had Heyman posited that Apoc being big and bulky was super important, beyond characterization, I'd similarly respond to him in that manner.

What people like you don't understand is context. You have a very strange output where context be damned and that is the meaning of consistent for you. Instead it makes you look shallow. Actual consistency is being logical on case by case.

Apoc being large is not important. Psylocke's origin is not important. I can share with you the history of comic adaptations to support this. I have said nothing inconsistent.

Not a single post of yours simply asking why and when certain character details are important. Not one. In no way will you come out of this the rational one while I'm the asshole. You should really start going back and seeing how you deteriorate in threads. As Swiss pointed out a while back; you just kinda melt down under the weight of your original points when challenged. It's unattractive.

Has it been posted if this movie is dealing with the First Class time line or will we have the original cast fighting Apoc?

Oh please. I asked questions about Man of Steel as a "casual" fan and you acted like such a twat. You pick and choose when you want to be receptive to opinions if they reflect your own. Heyman sucked your dick at the top of the page, so I guess you owe him a handy at the least.

Rogerer has reasonable doubts about the character because of the casting choice. It's not going to get the flak that a movie like Aloha did, but the white washing and nerd bait is there.

It is the First Class time line.... I think in the 80s this time maybe.... some number of years after Days of Future Past....

First Class.

Did I?

As far as Olivia Munn casting goes, I don't care. She is a hot braud, who looks vaguely Asian. Good enough for me.

I don't care about all the "transplanted into another body" thing, and I feel like they will most likely just ignore all that bushwa anyways.

Ya. She is a side character. I doubt she will have much of a story line.

So she's a....

Beverly Hills Ninja?

Kalyx has gone all out warfare on me here. He's used every tactic he can think of in his argument against me. I wonder if he learned these tactics from some GG post on 4chan telling him how to win arguments, or if this is just his honest natural reaction. If it's the latter then his hatred of SJWs is flat out hilarious. From the very first post constantly misrepresenting what I say, telling me to calm down, trying to talk about me being an irredeemable person, talking about "people like you" (what do you mean, you people?) and then saying that I didn't ask him a question in the correct way, when I didn't ask him a question at all. He wouldn't be my source of knowledge for anything since he happily makes things up.

I don't know, man. You are kind of unlikable. That's where most of your problems stem from.

I don't like Munn. I don't like what she stands for. She'll probably do fine though. Marvel usually makes it work, even when I have doubts.