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Mercenary 07-24-2015 04:37 AM

Hogan gone from WWE?
 
Quote:

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/6014...yptic-reaction

An unusual story is developing late Thursday night, as WWE has seemingly completely disassociated itself from Hall of Famer Hulk Hogan.

Hogan has been pulled from WWE.com completely, he is no longer listed as a judge on Tough Enough, and all of his merchandise links have been removed from WWE’s online shop.

The only Hogan related link remaining on WWE’s website is him being advertised for the Australian tour in which he is scheduled to be the General Manager. However, when you click the link it takes you to a page saying “You are not authorized to access this page.”

In what might be a reaction to all this, Hogan Tweeted the following:

“In the storm I release control,God and his Universe will sail me where he wants me to be,one love. HH”

teamXtremist 07-24-2015 04:44 AM

Well he was never happy with his role soooo

voncouch 07-24-2015 04:44 AM

Rumor is that he went on a crazy racist rant somewhere. Can't get any solid details though.

voncouch 07-24-2015 04:45 AM

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...1c&oe=5654478F

#BROKEN Hasney 07-24-2015 04:45 AM

There's apparently some audio coming from the National Enquirer where he drops n-bombs like they're going out of fashion and that's the reason.

Let's just remember the good times

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GD 07-24-2015 06:04 AM

I am a little drunk but I swear I was making a thread on this. Fuck! Nonetheless, it is depressing to see an icon like Hogan go away like this.

GD 07-24-2015 06:08 AM

He's gone from the Tough Enough site

https://www.wwetoughenough.com/about

Sixx 07-24-2015 06:38 AM

Quote:

“In the storm I release control,God and his Universe will sail me where he wants me to be,one love. HH”
What kind of a hippie bullshit is that?

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 06:46 AM

More PC, overly sensitive bullshit. Hogan is the biggest rassler ever and they get rid of him for saying a word. FFS, has the entire country caught gayniggeraids? pretty weak.

GD 07-24-2015 06:48 AM

http://www.wwe.com/superstars/hulkhogan

He's Benoit gone

Bad News Gertner 07-24-2015 08:03 AM

Oh come on, who doesn't say that word on a daily basis?

Volare 07-24-2015 08:03 AM

What in the hell....

Sixx 07-24-2015 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4673050)
Oh come on, who doesn't say that word on a daily basis?

Gotta respect him for coming up with "jiggy jiggly jew", though. Guy's got flow.

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 08:10 AM

Given the political climate in America no non Black person that wants to keep their job, especially if they are white and is somewhat famous.

This could really snowball in a bad way for the WWe.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-24-2015 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4673041)
More PC, overly sensitive bullshit. Hogan is the biggest rassler ever and they get rid of him for saying a word. FFS, has the entire country caught gayniggeraids? pretty weak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4673050)
Oh come on, who doesn't say that word on a daily basis?

Time to wipe you both out from the annals of TPWW history. Sorry guys, the times are a-changing.

Bad News Gertner 07-24-2015 08:29 AM

In all seriousness, Hogan just needs to go away as much as I love him. Just hang out at his shop in Florida, sell his shit and stay out of the public eye.

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 08:33 AM

We have a man spouting racial slurs working for a publically traded company with a history of racial abuse.

ClockShot 07-24-2015 08:33 AM

Did Vince say,

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when he heard the news?

#BROKEN Hasney 07-24-2015 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673064)
We have a man spouting racial slurs working for a publically traded company with a history of racial abuse.

http://i58.tinypic.com/99pezd.gif

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 08:36 AM

His shop isn't that big. His restaurant is pretty, et, cool but he is a rassler dammit and needs to be involved and working for a rasslin company. Maybe he just ask forgiveness from the New Day and Jesse Jackson.

Sixx 07-24-2015 08:39 AM

He could wrestle Al Sharpton. If he wins, all is forgiven.

Evil Vito 07-24-2015 08:48 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Curtis Axel's profile has reverted from Axelmania to just plain ol Curtis Axel now, too.</font>

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 08:48 AM

As tough and hard as the black folk like to act, they sure do get offended and butt hurt easy. Lol Al Sharpton, what a piece of shit!

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 08:57 AM

Seriously, It could go away pretty quickly but I think it will depend on whether or not the media got bored covering yesterday's shooting and wishes to continue fanning the flames for a race war.

Johnny Vegas 07-24-2015 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673064)
We have a man spouting racial slurs working for a publically traded company with a history of racial abuse.

I was about to say, the WWE has definitely done some "shady" business.

Maybe it's the turnover of the "control" to Steph & HHH, but i remember countless things that were done. Don't get me started on HHH/Booker T in late '02 - early '03...

In any event, i'm tired of people saying "omg, its just a word, omg calm down"....are me and my friends the only fucking people in the world who don't have racist terms at the edge of our tongues? God damn. I can't tell you the last time i said a racist term because i dont think about it, i dont say them..i like racist jokes because its funny and its humility, but not when it involves those stupid racist words that every knows that i'm talking about.

I can't wait for an alternate planet or society to live in to get away from idiots like this.

#1-norm-fan 07-24-2015 09:40 AM

So you like racist jokes as long as there are no racist words in them.

Tom Guycott 07-24-2015 09:53 AM

Yeah, I caught the intent, Vegas, but that was worded rather clumsily.

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 09:55 AM

We have become a people that picks apart EVERY SINGLE thing that someone says to find fault with them and that is if we know them. Words have power if we give them power, making them taboo only gives them more power.

Using today's stardards should calling someone a Redneck, especially because of the stereotype, just as offensive as using the N word, or the J word ? Is it ok because it is a term used towards southern white boys

Cool King 07-24-2015 09:56 AM

I actually found out about this on daytime TV, which was weird, as the last place I expect people to be talking about Hulk Hogan and wrestling, is on This Morning.

Tom Guycott 07-24-2015 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voncouch (Post 4673031)

I don't agree with Punk here. It was clearly Stevie Ray. I picture Hogan being dangled from a balcony like so much Vanilla Ice/Suge Knight. Or, to put it a different way: "110TH STREET STYLE, SUCKA!!!"

Cool King 07-24-2015 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney (Post 4673066)

I still remember reading that story where Hayes apparently walked up to Mark Henry at a bar and said "I'm more of a nigger than you are".

Or words to that effect.

Jazzy Foot 07-24-2015 10:02 AM

He'll be back soon enough.

Heisenberg 07-24-2015 10:04 AM

HOGAN OUT


...The Owen is IN


http://i.imgur.com/tVaQpj3.jpg

Tom Guycott 07-24-2015 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673092)
We have become a people that picks apart EVERY SINGLE thing that someone says to find fault with them and that is if we know them. Words have power if we give them power, making them taboo only gives them more power.

Using today's stardards should calling someone a Redneck, especially because of the stereotype, just as offensive as using the N word, or the J word ? Is it ok because it is a term used towards southern white boys

Part of the problem is lack of accountability on the actual weight of certain words. For example, people can "get away" with stuff like dropping n-bombs on this site because there is no fear of coming down with punched-in-the-face syndrome. Just don't fucking do it; if for nothing else, out of respect. The idea of "words are just words", while rooted in nobility, isn't reality.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-24-2015 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4673096)
I still remember reading that story where Hayes apparently walked up to Mark Henry at a bar and said "I'm more of a nigger than you are".

Or words to that effect.

Yeah, I think it's been said by people who have left the company, so I believe that one.

I still remember the most SHEETZ moment in the world being a rumour that Christian tried to bring a slave back from a Malaysia tour one time.

ClockShot 07-24-2015 10:07 AM

So what does this mean for Tough Enough?

Still filming? All wrapped? Taken off the show? Staying on?

Tom Guycott 07-24-2015 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney (Post 4673103)
Yeah, I think it's been said by people who have left the company, so I believe that one.

I still remember the most SHEETZ moment in the world being a rumour that Christian tried to bring a slave back from a Malaysia tour one time.

And that went on to become the seed for Tensai.

Tom Guycott 07-24-2015 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4673104)
So what does this mean for Tough Enough?

Still filming? All wrapped? Taken off the show? Staying on?

They blur him out of shots and cut every segment where he talks.

slik 07-24-2015 10:15 AM

what?

Hogan seemed life a 'for life' contract when he came back to host WMXXX...I wonder what he did...

Cool King 07-24-2015 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4673105)
And that went on to become the seed for Tensai.

As we're talking about racism, the mention of Tensai has reminded me of that Tout he did one time where he was in a car next to Sakamoto, who was driving, and Tensai hit Sakamoto on the head and yelled at him to keep his eyes open.

I can't find a video of it, but I remember people "freaking out" about it for a day.

Tom Guycott 07-24-2015 10:24 AM

Also, that one promo Big Show cut on Kaientai and flubbed in the most unfortunate way possible. I think WWE tried to roll with that one and make Show into an arrogant and vaguely racist heel. Didn't quite work, but and didn't last long, but it was attempted.

Evil Vito 07-24-2015 10:26 AM

<font color=goldenrod>So...with Hogan being retconned, who is now the biggest superstar in history according to WWE? Austin? Rock? HBK?</font>

Evil Vito 07-24-2015 10:26 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Cena?</font> :shifty:

Tom Guycott 07-24-2015 10:30 AM

The 80's never had a main eventer babyface past Backlund. World title was vacant until Ultimate Warrior had that one match against himself to unify the World and IC championships in 1990.

Johnny Vegas 07-24-2015 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4673091)
Yeah, I caught the intent, Vegas, but that was worded rather clumsily.

No, it wasn't.

I meant everything that i said because i'm not going to act like we live in a society where no one is going say anything remotely racist. I'm saying if you are going to do it, do it in a way where you are making fun of your own race as well if you are talking about another. This would be wayyy more tolerable and less analyzed.

Black Widow 07-24-2015 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4673117)
what?

Hogan seemed life a 'for life' contract when he came back to host WMXXX...I wonder what he did...

Took his love for Brooke to a sexual place.

Evil Vito 07-24-2015 11:16 AM

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/cele...ooke-exclusive

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah...he's done.</font>

voncouch 07-24-2015 11:16 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKrx8BNWEAAxXAT.jpg:large

Statement all but confirms the racist angle. Never thought I'd say this but c'mon TMZ, do your job. We gotta hear this rant.

Johnny Vegas 07-24-2015 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673092)
We have become a people that picks apart EVERY SINGLE thing that someone says to find fault with them and that is if we know them. Words have power if we give them power, making them taboo only gives them more power.

Using today's stardards should calling someone a Redneck, especially because of the stereotype, just as offensive as using the N word, or the J word ? Is it ok because it is a term used towards southern white boys

You know what the difference is between calling someone something racist and calling someone, let's say, stupid motherf*cker? Anyone can be a stupid motherfucker, but a _______ pertains to a _______ when spewing stupid ass racist comments.

A redneck is the same as a "homeboy" or "bro" towards black men. Don't act like it's up there with the n-word, please. Now "cracker", ok, i can see it going there. But back to my original point, you want to call someone something when you're mad, call them something thats of general nature. When you start going at someone because of race, it shows your lack of accountability, lack of maturity, and lack of intelligence. Also shows that you are not witty enough to keep the back and forth going.

I mean you can be having an argument about sports, philosophy, or whatever, and someone uses a racial term. Why? You obviously thought about it before even having a discussion or can't get it through your malnourished brain that people look and act differently than you. Doesn't mean you have to attack them for it like that.

I'm sure that HH wasn't "baited" when using those terms. He just freely used them and will probably try to apologize later. No use dude, don't even worry about it, just go away and let us remember you for your racist rant instead of your life-changing moments in your wrestling career. That's karma enough.

DAMN iNATOR 07-24-2015 11:20 AM

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LEAVE THE MEMORIES ALONE, DAMMIT! :'(

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 11:49 AM

Nigga please. This is so stupid that he got fired. Butt hurt faggots the WWE high ups.

Mercenary 07-24-2015 11:53 AM

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Who is racist again?

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 11:54 AM

When you call someone a Redneck you are also inferring that are a racist.

The MAC 07-24-2015 11:55 AM

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Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 11:57 AM

Vince is such a hypocritical nigga

The MAC 07-24-2015 12:02 PM

GFW or back to TNA ?

I think GFW cus Jeff Jarret is another fucking racist.


GFW hulk hogan is coming for you ....

Simple Fan 07-24-2015 12:06 PM

What ya gonna do brother when Hulkamania runs wild on Global Force Wrestling, Brother.

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 4673198)
GFW or back to TNA ?

I think GFW cus Jeff Jarret is another fucking racist.


GFW hulk hogan is coming for you ....

He is going nowhere, anyone would be a fool to deal with him right now. At least in the America's

Johnny Vegas 07-24-2015 12:11 PM

Like i said, can't wait until the reorganization of these types of people in society. Don't think it isn't coming either.

Simple Fan 07-24-2015 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673192)
When you call someone a Redneck you are also inferring that are racist.

Even black rednecks? I understand what you mean, but I don't agree with you. As a redneck I don't feel the term labels you a racist, but I can see why someone calling you a redneck might think your racist.

Simple Fan 07-24-2015 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673201)
He is going nowhere, anyone would be a fool to deal with him right now. At least in the America's

He is Hulk Hogan, he will have some type of deal with a company pretty soon I feel. This is a country of second chances and he will get his.

#BROKEN Hasney 07-24-2015 12:21 PM

http://i.imgur.com/ncwjotd.jpg

But what does Virgil think?

http://i.imgur.com/RSi7otd.png

http://i.imgur.com/UxZg4m5.gif

#fuckmoneyfriday http://www.thecoli.com/media/hollywo...l?d=1406785635

Sixx 07-24-2015 12:23 PM

I fucking love that Vincent gif.

Simple Fan 07-24-2015 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The MAC (Post 4673193)
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Is this it, he didn't say anything offensive, just telling a story and seemed like he was cool with the black community,

ClockShot 07-24-2015 12:28 PM

ESPN has picked up on this now.


http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/1...tar-hulk-hogan

Heisenberg 07-24-2015 12:36 PM

This is WWE brilliance, they can't book him in the ring obviously so they run this storyline that was sure to gain some Internet buzz. They'll repackage him as Confederate Hogan and he'll feud with Big E, ahh genius!

Heisenberg 07-24-2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by im just a fan (Post 4673212)
Is this it, he didn't say anything offensive, just telling a story and seemed like he was cool with the black community,



No, that wasn't it. It was a tirade towards Brooke's choice of boyfriend in 2006

slik 07-24-2015 12:52 PM

supposedly more to come...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKsD6jYWIAA4vIq.jpg

Cool King 07-24-2015 01:00 PM

http://oi62.tinypic.com/t03pr4.jpg

Shadrick 07-24-2015 01:00 PM

Honestly man, If you're not black, and you don't know what it feels liked to be called that by someone who legitimately hates you, respectfully you're not in any sort of position to qualify to talk about the usage of the n-word or to compare it to other words. No, the n-word is not comparable to "cracker" at all because the history behind the words are EXTREMELY different. Clearly Shisen and Gertner are just trolling. This isn't "PC bullshit" or whatever. After reading the transcript of what Hogan said, I'm really disappointed man.

It wouldn't bother me as much if he said it in passing as an attempt to ingratiate himself with another black guy, because I wouldn't know their relationship. What I take issue with is that he said "f*cking n*gger" not once, but twice. I'm really confused man, I really liked Hulk Hogan.

Shadrick 07-24-2015 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slik (Post 4673226)

I really, really hope this isn't true.

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 01:10 PM

What's trolling?

Hanso Amore 07-24-2015 01:19 PM

He cant be a racist, Mr T was his tag team partner at wrestlemania!!!!

Simple Fan 07-24-2015 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 4673219)
This is WWE brilliance, they can't book him in the ring obviously so they run this storyline that was sure to gain some Internet buzz. They'll repackage him as Confederate Hogan and he'll feud with Darren Young, ahh genius!

Now its genius.

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4673228)
Honestly man, If you're not black, and you don't know what it feels liked to be called that by someone who legitimately hates you, respectfully you're not in any sort of position to qualify to talk about the usage of the n-word or to compare it to other words. No, the n-word is not comparable to "cracker" at all because the history behind the words are EXTREMELY different. Clearly Shisen and Gertner are just trolling. This isn't "PC bullshit" or whatever. After reading the transcript of what Hogan said, I'm really disappointed man.

It wouldn't bother me as much if he said it in passing as an attempt to ingratiate himself with another black guy, because I wouldn't know their relationship. What I take issue with is that he said "f*cking n*gger" not once, but twice. I'm really confused man, I really liked Hulk Hogan.


By hate do you mean by someone who when you look into there eyes all you see is someone that wants to kick your ass for no other reason except for the fact that you exist? Then yes I do. Despite my idiocy on these forum I have always been one of those people that you walk by without noticing, don't miss until hours after they leave a party... who before ZI was married the type of person you wouldn't know died in their apt until it started to smell. With the exception of a few coworkers just about every single Non internet interaction with any Black Male since I have come to the united states has been bad and a few have been downright frightening.. and why do I feel it was because I passed for white? Because they fucking told me so. So don't you fucking sit there and tell someone you haVE NEVER ment that they have no clue, because you know what? Some of us fucking do and there are problably plenty of us outhere who never had a problem until one was made. Now I don't honestly believe that every Black man on the street I pass hates my ass but you kbnow what? Why chance it? Hate breeds hate my man and Black Americans are just as responcible for what as going on in this country then anyone else. It is time to own up to rather then blaming whitey

Shadrick 07-24-2015 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673242)
By hate do you mean by someone who when you look into there eyes all you see is someone that wants to kick your ass for no other reason except for the fact that you exist? Then yes I do. Despite my idiocy on these forum I have always been one of those people that you walk by without noticing, don't miss until hours after they leave a party... who before ZI was married the type of person you wouldn't know died in their apt until it started to smell. With the exception of a few coworkers just about every single Non internet interaction with any Black Male since I have come to the united states has been bad and a few have been downright frightening.. and why do I feel it was because I passed for white? Because they fucking told me so. So don't you fucking sit there and tell someone you haVE NEVER ment that they have no clue, because you know what? Some of us fucking do and there are problably plenty of us outhere who never had a problem until one was made. Now I don't honestly believe that every Black man on the street I pass hates my ass but you kbnow what? Why chance it? Hate breeds hate my man and Black Americans are just as responcible for what as going on in this country then anyone else. It is time to own up to rather then blaming whitey

Not sure how my post warranted this response, but good luck to you.

Evil Vito 07-24-2015 01:42 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Jesus Christ, Fastway...</font>

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 01:43 PM

Because I see that excuse given all the time in one way shape or form.
It's different.
Bullshit.
hate is fucking hate, don't white wash it and don't make excuses.

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 01:45 PM

Black people are just as racist if not more racist than whitey but for them it's not racist, it's being "empowered"

Shadrick 07-24-2015 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4673245)
<font color=goldenrod>Jesus Christ, Fastway...</font>

To answer your previous post, I would actually think it would be Austin or Rock now. Rock with the edge being more universal as far as crossover, but Austin was the surge when they needed it to survive and ultimately win.

Since Austin was there first with popularity, I'd have to say Austin if its still not Hogan.

Innovator 07-24-2015 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4673238)
He cant be a racist, Mr T was his tag team partner at wrestlemania!!!!

BACKLUND TOLD ME HE'S GOOD NOW

Shadrick 07-24-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673246)
Because I see that excuse given all the time in one way shape or form.
It's different.
Bullshit.
hate is fucking hate, don't white wash it and don't make excuses.

You disagree, thats cool. I don't feel like you can put all hate in one umbrella and make it all the same, but you clearly feel like you can, and that's fine.

Sixx 07-24-2015 01:55 PM

He can now get back to Pastamania!

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 4673219)
This is WWE brilliance, they can't book him in the ring obviously so they run this storyline that was sure to gain some Internet buzz. They'll repackage him as Confederate Hogan and he'll feud with Big E, ahh genius!

https://carlosnewsnetwork.files.word...ogan.jpg?w=585

Blonde Moment 07-24-2015 02:04 PM

So you are saying it is different to hate a white American you have never met then a black American?
N* -a contemptuous term for a black or dark-skinned person.

Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a derogatory term for white people.
The whips used by some of these people are called 'crackers', from their having a piece of buckskin at the end. Hence the people who cracked the whips came to be thus named

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 02:20 PM

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130418193236

Shadrick 07-24-2015 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673265)
So you are saying it is different to hate a white American you have never met then a black American?
N* -a contemptuous term for a black or dark-skinned person.

Cracker, sometimes white cracker or cracka, is a derogatory term for white people.
The whips used by some of these people are called 'crackers', from their having a piece of buckskin at the end. Hence the people who cracked the whips came to be thus named

No. That's not what I said. I said the terms are not comparable, and they aren't, because the history of the words are different. Just because two terms are the respective derogatory terms for a race doesn't mean they have the same history, and are on the same tier, because they aren't.

My point was, if you're not black, you're not in a position to discuss the usage of the N-word from an educated perspective because you don't know how that legit feels. Sure, you can feel like you have comparable experiences. But it's different. If you don't live that, and you don't deal with it on a daily basis, it's not something you can wrap your brain around. You can sympathize. But you won't be able to empathize, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. You may have had some hard times in your life, and that sucks for real.

You made my point when you defined the words. "Contemptuous" is downplaying the word immensely. If you weren't raped, torn from your families because the mom, dad, sister, brother etc were sold to someone else, casually thrown overboard a ship because the ship got too heavy, killed for trying to escape, whipped, etc while being called "cracker" then you can't compare the words. And hell "cracker" was coined because of whip cracker, you know, when they were in the position to own land and people.

One word was coined for the ones being oppressed, and the other was coined for the oppressors. That's as clear as I can be. My point was referring to the word usage. I never brought up distrust or angst towards "whitey," you did that.

Shadrick 07-24-2015 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy Gunn (Post 4673263)
If these comments were from 8 years ago, that's a long time, people can change a lot in 8 years. There's no excuse for being a racist asshole, but what bothers me is people saying a racist should have their career taken away from them and treated like a subhuman piece of shit.

What about rehabilitation? What if Hogan got sensitivity counselling, publicly apologised, and spent time condemning his actions, and explained to other people why he was wrong.

Yeah, hate is fucking hate, but one disgusting outburst shouldn't define a person who is capable of change and redemption. WWE did the right thing, and Hogan should answer for his stupid comments by appearing on a talk show or news broadcast and be humbled and questioned, but also show that he is redeemable.

People love to be outraged by stuff, and see the accused lose everything in the name of 'justice'. I'm in no way defending Hogan, I just have to roll my eyes at comments that read like 'he said a racist thing, now he's a racist for life, let's hope he loses everything and suffers for his injustice.'

I agree to an extent. And it's up for discernment of course, but I think theres a difference between saying "a racist thing" and someone subtly letting their real indoctrined views slip out. I'm not sure which one Hogan falls under in this case, but saying "fucking n*gger" twice in same rant doesn't bode well for optimism in this case.

Mercenary 07-24-2015 02:53 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWqh8iU4xa8 is still loved by wwe....yeah not hypocrites at all

Sixx 07-24-2015 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4673276)

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erickman 07-24-2015 03:00 PM

poor curt axel has to get a new angle

Savio 07-24-2015 03:03 PM

I found a pic of hogan on WWE.com!

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/photo_la...Alter_Egos.jpg

Heyman 07-24-2015 03:24 PM

Warrior wasn't kidding around when he told Hogan that "karma was coming to collect!"


Damn.

Dark One 07-24-2015 03:25 PM

Scott Steiner so hype right now.

DAMN iNATOR 07-24-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Savio (Post 4673294)

Come on...everybody knows that wasn't Hogan...that was Mr. America!

Cool King 07-24-2015 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Fastway (Post 4673265)
The whips used by some of these people are called 'crackers', from their having a piece of buckskin at the end. Hence the people who cracked the whips came to be thus named

Really?

I didn't know that.

Cool King 07-24-2015 03:45 PM

Seriously, I didn't.

Shisen Kopf 07-24-2015 03:46 PM

Wanna hear owenbrown's opinion on this matter

Mercenary 07-24-2015 03:46 PM

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Savio 07-24-2015 03:57 PM

Lol he's right on the front page here:

http://www.wwe.com/classics/titlehistory


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