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The Condor 11-04-2015 05:52 PM

Ronda Rousey: UFC 193 "Ladies Night"
 
So, will she still be a big deal when she inevitably loses?

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Two dominate female champions.

Kris P Lettus 11-04-2015 06:58 PM

I don't see it happening any time soon. She has also stated she is only gonna fight a few more years. She is light years ahead of all other female 135ers. Cyborg has a chance but she has to make 135 first.

Clerk 11-09-2015 10:05 AM

I think she loses to Holly tbh. Holly is training with Jon Jones Jones is giving her advice about probably everything . Training will the best rubs off on you and I think Holly beats Ronda. No way she'll win by decision the UFC won't allow that so she has to finish it

Sixx 11-09-2015 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clerk (Post 4727759)
I think she loses to Holly tbh. Holly is training with Jon Jones Jones is giving her advice about probably everything . Training will the best rubs off on you and I think Holly beats Ronda. No way she'll win by decision the UFC won't allow that so she has to finish it

Keep sucking Jon Jones' johnson, fag.

Clerk 11-09-2015 11:14 AM

what do you mean how am i sucking him explain yourself you cunt.

Simple Fan 11-09-2015 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clerk (Post 4727759)
I think she loses to Holly tbh. Holly is training with Jon Jones Jones is giving her advice about probably everything . Training will the best rubs off on you and I think Holly beats Ronda. No way she'll win by decision the UFC won't allow that so she has to finish it

Teaching cocaine loaded hit & runs since 2015

Stickman 11-10-2015 09:36 AM

If Ronda can't take Holly down whenever she wants she will be in trouble. On their feet Ronda loses.

Nicky Fives 11-10-2015 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 4728615)
If Ronda can't take Holly down whenever she wants she will be in trouble. On their feet Ronda loses.

Pretty sure people said that about her last fight as well....

Kris P Lettus 11-10-2015 07:34 PM

Bethe is no where near the technical striker Holly is.

Ronda will def be able to take Holm down.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-11-2015 10:07 AM

Or at the very least clinch her against the cage and beat her the fuck up. But I predict takedowns. Holm doesn't have the experience to establish the real estate to strike, and she's not particularly powerful.

The only thing that'll hold Ronda back is that weirdo Tarverdian. She needs to find a real camp before she eventually fights cyborg

Damian Rey 11-12-2015 10:55 AM

I'm not mma expert so I'll just answer the question from a casual fan perspective.

Rousey is a big deal. If or when she loses, it'll be a big deal. I'd imagine the replay ppv would do well as those who didn't watch it live would want to see it for themselves.

I'd also imagine that her losing leads to more buys at her next match to see if she can rebound and get back to the top. Everybody loves a comeback.. Her losing would do good business I think, at least initially.

Stickman 11-13-2015 09:10 PM

I like Rousey but she looked like a trashy cunt at the weigh ins.

Sepholio 11-13-2015 09:45 PM

Ronda gonna slaughter dat ho.

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2015 12:49 AM

This is the official UFC 193 thread

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2015 01:02 AM

https://instagram.com/p/-DMAcAhESQ/

Nicky Fives 11-14-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4730173)
Ronda gonna slaughter dat ho.


Ruien 11-14-2015 03:09 PM

In the second one the girl in the black should have gave a quick kiss to the other girl after smiling while the one in red was talking shit.

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2015 03:13 PM

The one in red is the most dangerous woman on the planet not named Ronda Rousey.

Joanna Champion will end up being a bigger star than Ronda, I think. (In fighting)

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2015 03:30 PM

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19...unt-vs-bigfoot


The rematch of the greatest heavyweight mma fight of all time is also tonight. Anyone who hasn't seen it def should take the time to do so.

Kris P Lettus 11-14-2015 08:11 PM

I like Moontasari. Hopefully he can be mor Ethan just a flash in the pan TKD guy

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Heisenberg 11-15-2015 12:35 AM

holy fuck, let's do this

Rousey time

Innovator 11-15-2015 12:55 AM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand new

Heisenberg 11-15-2015 12:57 AM

holy shit

Frank Drebin 11-15-2015 01:01 AM

Someone please post gifs or something. Need to see this.

Corndad 11-15-2015 01:01 AM

Well there is your UFC 200 Main Event.

Corndad 11-15-2015 01:03 AM

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MoFo 11-15-2015 01:21 AM

https://streamable.com/ys3w

MoFo 11-15-2015 01:21 AM

ahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

Clerk 11-15-2015 01:26 AM

What did I tell you don't underestimate the power of influence from a great camp and great mentors congrats holly

Theo Dious 11-15-2015 01:36 AM

Just got home from seeing this... hot damn. That kick
Fuck.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-15-2015 01:52 AM

Sent Ger a country mile with that kick. Unbelicable upset

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-15-2015 01:56 AM

WWE: Fuccccccccccck

Black Widow 11-15-2015 05:56 AM

didn't know Rousey changed her name to Holly

Kris P Lettus 11-15-2015 08:42 AM

your joke doesn't make sense cause Ronda doesn't throw kicks

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Kris P Lettus 11-15-2015 08:43 AM

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Kris P Lettus 11-15-2015 09:27 AM

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Sepholio 11-15-2015 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4730173)
Ronda gonna slaughter dat ho.

LIAR!

Kris P Lettus 11-15-2015 11:30 AM

To pick against a dominant champion rarely works out. This is the forth time in UFC history this has has happened.

Kris P Lettus 11-15-2015 11:30 AM

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Ruien 11-15-2015 03:49 PM

Why didn't ROnda touch gloves in the beginning? She seemed like a bitch during the photo thing too.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-15-2015 04:13 PM

That's what we call Ronda being Ronda

Ruien 11-15-2015 07:18 PM

I see. Glad she lost then. The last lady she went against was a total bitch but Holm seems really chill.

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-15-2015 07:37 PM

Do they have auto rematches?

Sixx 11-15-2015 07:40 PM

Just seen this. She didn't even get lucky, totally dominated Ronda.

Simple Fan 11-15-2015 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4730791)
Do they have auto rematches?

Dana said she'd earned the right to a rematch, so its probably up to Ronda. Could be at UFC 200 I'd assume.

Kris P Lettus 11-15-2015 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4730791)
Do they have auto rematches?

Most times, for long term, dominant champions.

Big Vic 11-16-2015 08:39 AM

Hey guys, clerk was right.
Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4730791)
Do they have auto rematches?

No she has to win the Royal Rumble to get another shot

Ruien 11-17-2015 10:11 PM

She got hit so hard she is suspended for 6 months. Lol.

Kris P Lettus 11-17-2015 10:53 PM

Any KO is like 90 days so double that is not extreme.

Ruien 11-18-2015 07:21 AM

That is a cool rule. Do they have that for boxing too?

Kris P Lettus 11-18-2015 11:06 AM

Yes. It's governed by the NSAC

McLegend 11-18-2015 09:46 PM

I still haven't seen the full fight so I'm just going off the highlights. Two things I would be worried about.

1. This fight reminded me of Anderson Silva vs Rich Franklin I. In that fight Rich Franklin was absolutely outclassed and destroyed in every aspect, and you knew Rich Franklin was never going to beat Anderson Silva. We didn't know at the time Anderson Silva was going to be the greatest fighter of all time, but you did know Anderson Silva was a bad matchup for Franklin. I fear this could happen between Rousey and Holm. I think it's very possiblle Holm is a bad matchup for Rousey.

2. A lot of times when top fighters get knocked out and knocked out bad they are never the same and lose their warrior spirit. You add plastic surgery to the mix, and I can totally see this happening to Rousey. I think she is going to lose her Warrior Spirit.

McLegend 11-18-2015 09:55 PM

Rich Franklin got his nose broken and had to get surgey after that fight. Yet another parallel between the fights.

Maybe Holly Holm will go on to be some great fighter, and this loss won't be that surprising years from now.

Simple Fan 11-18-2015 11:49 PM

Taz said on his radio show that he thinks Ronda losing was a work. He didn't think Holly was in on it though.

McLegend 11-19-2015 04:00 AM

She didn't fake getting knocked out... That's for sure.

Kris P Lettus 11-19-2015 06:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4732286)
Taz said on his radio show that he thinks Ronda losing was a work. He didn't think Holly was in on it though.

Lol

She is not that good of an actress

Reavant 11-19-2015 04:42 PM

She has always had huge holes in her game. Watch the second Tate fight.

Mischa is a tough fighter, but she has terrible mechanics to her punches. There is no driving from the feet and turning over from the hips to the shoulder to the hands. Other than her overhand right, she throws only arm punches with nothing behind them. Despite that, she was consistently hitting Ronda in the face when they fought. Ronda was able to eat those shots and come forward because they posed no danger.

Ronda has improved her hands in that they move faster than they once did, and she has decent punching mechanics. She can come forward and deliver a Wanderlei like performance. However, like with the Tate fight, she has no head movement, her hands are down, and she gets hit in the face.

In walks Holm with a world boxing title to her name. Almost every punch she threw landed, except every punch she threw hurt. Ronda was systematically destroyed because she never addressed this hole in her game. Until now, there has never been anyone who could exploit it. You could see the look on Rondas face during the fight. She was desperate and tried to overcome that by preforming even more desperate. She rushed in, she chased, and she swung wildly. All things you never do to a skilled striker. Especially if that skilled striker is more skilled than you.

I also have never liked how Ronda hangs her hat on the headlock judo throws. There is a very good reason you don't see high level men use those throws. First is that men are stronger upper body and if you go to headlock throw a man, you run the risk of being picked up and thrown down on your head. Second, a headlock throw leaves you open to having your back taken. Did we forget the Liz Coarmouche fight? Ronda has been fighting girls that are like most girls in that they are more flexible, but have less upperbody strength. She met a fighter in Holly Holm, that had that upperbody strength which is why you saw her get picked up and dropped by Holly when she did that shit technique.


Unless Ronda's coach can fix this issue, or she can find a coach who can, I feel we will have another Dilashaw/Barao situation on our hands. I don't see anyone else beating Ronda, but I don't see Ronda beating Holm ever again.


What is interesting is that I think that Holm can be beaten. She almost was in her last fight. She is much like Anderson in that she plays the distance and counter punches, but I think the great girl wrestlers will still give her fits. A solid double leg might give her problems.

I don't mean to take anything away from Ronda. Shes a great fighter, but this hype train was so blind to what she was, that it was quite nauseating. I was on board with most people on saying that she was never going to lose, because I was unsure that any woman would be strong enough physically and mentally to take her on. Not only do you have to fight Ronda, but you have to listen to all that hype every day. It is hard to keep your confidence when everyone is saying youre gunna get killed.


Im glad we got to see the shakeup that we did. The rematch will be big money for sure.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-19-2015 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 4732608)
She has always had huge holes in her game. Watch the second Tate fight.

Mischa is a tough fighter, but she has terrible mechanics to her punches. There is no driving from the feet and turning over from the hips to the shoulder to the hands. Other than her overhand right, she throws only arm punches with nothing behind them. Despite that, she was consistently hitting Ronda in the face when they fought. Ronda was able to eat those shots and come forward because they posed no danger.

Ronda has improved her hands in that they move faster than they once did, and she has decent punching mechanics. She can come forward and deliver a Wanderlei like performance. However, like with the Tate fight, she has no head movement, her hands are down, and she gets hit in the face.

In walks Holm with a world boxing title to her name. Almost every punch she threw landed, except every punch she threw hurt. Ronda was systematically destroyed because she never addressed this hole in her game. Until now, there has never been anyone who could exploit it. You could see the look on Rondas face during the fight. She was desperate and tried to overcome that by preforming even more desperate. She rushed in, she chased, and she swung wildly. All things you never do to a skilled striker. Especially if that skilled striker is more skilled than you.

I also have never liked how Ronda hangs her hat on the headlock judo throws. There is a very good reason you don't see high level men use those throws. First is that men are stronger upper body and if you go to headlock throw a man, you run the risk of being picked up and thrown down on your head. Second, a headlock throw leaves you open to having your back taken. Did we forget the Liz Coarmouche fight? Ronda has been fighting girls that are like most girls in that they are more flexible, but have less upperbody strength. She met a fighter in Holly Holm, that had that upperbody strength which is why you saw her get picked up and dropped by Holly when she did that shit technique.


Unless Ronda's coach can fix this issue, or she can find a coach who can, I feel we will have another Dilashaw/Barao situation on our hands. I don't see anyone else beating Ronda, but I don't see Ronda beating Holm ever again.


What is interesting is that I think that Holm can be beaten. She almost was in her last fight. She is much like Anderson in that she plays the distance and counter punches, but I think the great girl wrestlers will still give her fits. A solid double leg might give her problems.

I don't mean to take anything away from Ronda. Shes a great fighter, but this hype train was so blind to what she was, that it was quite nauseating. I was on board with most people on saying that she was never going to lose, because I was unsure that any woman would be strong enough physically and mentally to take her on. Not only do you have to fight Ronda, but you have to listen to all that hype every day. It is hard to keep your confidence when everyone is saying youre gunna get killed.


Im glad we got to see the shakeup that we did. The rematch will be big money for sure.

Was looking forward to reading this as soon as I saw you posted and you didn't disappoint

Maluco 11-19-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4732688)
Was looking forward to reading this as soon as I saw you posted and you didn't disappoint

:y: agreed

Fantastic analysis and really good arguments. Very worrying for Ronda camp how the fight went, especially with movie offers on the way. Will she have the desire to come back and come back better?

Reavant 11-19-2015 08:45 PM

Also... I don't think anyone here said it, but all the talk about how Mayweather would get beat up by Ronda need to get back on their psych meds. She just got KOed by a woman her size. Im sorry, but one punch from Floyd would probably kill her. I seriously want to strangle people that go on how she would beat him in a full fight. Even my beloved Joe Rogan says it and it breaks my heart.

Innovator 11-20-2015 09:47 AM

Listening to Ronda's corner inbetween rounds pretty much says that she needs to switch coaches. All Edmond could say was "you're doing great." What? You just lost your first round in a fight and are getting torn apart.

Big Vic 11-20-2015 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 4732705)
Also... I don't think anyone here said it, but all the talk about how Mayweather would get beat up by Ronda need to get back on their psych meds. She just got KOed by a woman her size. Im sorry, but one punch from Floyd would probably kill her. I seriously want to strangle people that go on how she would beat him in a full fight. Even my beloved Joe Rogan says it and it breaks my heart.

Holly Holm would whoop Mayweathers ass.


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