What we know about Nintendo's next system(s) - NX
 

So I'm ripping this off from another forum, but there's a lot of information here. Sounds like there might be a home console then a handheld that streams from the console, but this is what we know:

1. Nintendo merged their handheld and console systems, now known as the "Integrated Research & Development Division" Or IRDD. This is headed by Genyo Tekada, the Senior Managing Director

2. Iwata's first mention of a new project that will feature unified architectures.

3. Another mention of the architecture by Iwata, and how he wanted to take advantage of what they've done Wii U's architecture but not actually reuse it. Also expressing dissatisfaction with the effort needed when porting Wii games to 3DS and 3DS games to Wii U as a reason to do this. Also mentions how when this happens. consoles and handhelds will no longer be different, but like brothers in a family of systems.

4. Iwata's comments about the above being compared to Apple and Android.

5. The NX is announced and is the codename of "a dedicated game platform with a brand-new concept", with more information to be shared in 2016.

6. Iwata also announced a new "membership service" that they're working with DeNA on that encompasses NX alongside Wii U, 3DS, mobile devices, and PC's and will form one of the "core elements" of the NX.

http://i.imgur.com/YaC2nY9.jpg

7. Iwata discussed about Nintendo "internally analyzing what hurdles exist" to the removal of region-locking for the NX7

8. Games-wise, originally Dragon Quest X and Dragon Quest XI were officially confirmed at the Dragon Quest XI unveiling event by the producer. However, Square-Enix afterward claimed this is only merely a "consideration"

9. Wall Street Journal reported that Nintendo has already shipped NX dev kits to certain 3rd-party developers, and that sources claim the NX will likely feature both a console and a handheld unit that can be used together or on the go for separate use, and use "industry-leading chips" after "criticism that the Wii U’s capabilities didn’t match those of competitors"

10. The Nintendo Account system was announced.

http://i.imgur.com/yJURgX2.jpg

11. Topic 6 was addressing the recently announced My Nintendo membership service.

http://i.imgur.com/GTtaDRs.jpg

12. Miyamoto ponders making on game that runs on both a console and a handheld.

13. Shinya Takahashi says that Nintendo wants to make the NX exciting by looking at the perspective of the players.

14. Miyamoto has confirmed that he is taking a step back from NX's development after having a large hand in both the Wii and Wii U's development.

There's another bit that says it won't use the Wii name (thank fuck) due to confusing about the Wii U possibly being an add on. Lot of shit there, but it's enough to get me excited thinking that Iwata was and Nintendo is looking at the right things where they need improvement... Well, other than smartphone inspiration.

Long post I know, but this is the shit that happens when I have to take holiday to use up and I'm waiting for XB1 games to install.

Is there any legitimate source of a lot of the rumored info (console running at 900p, for example), or just people with too much time on their hands?

Yeah my friends we asking if the Wii U was an add on or a new system. Didn't know how widespread that issue was.

merging the hand held and home consoles will be pretty cool.

So there was a survey sent out to some people that mentioned it, but it was just a screenshot with no other context. It's legit but a) it doesn't mean it's what they're doing and b) it could be anything.

For me, if it is in the console in some way, I reckon it's for streaming to the handheld. At 900p and 60fps streaming, that's better than PS4 to the Vita. I'll see if I can find that shot again.

EDIT: Here we go

http://img.theepochtimes.com/n3/eet-...39-676x450.png

If the console can output at 4k (although never expect any games to run at that resolution, will be for Netflix and the like), there's no way games would be locked to 900p. It'll be up to the developer as it is with the other systems.

Nothing, YET, screams anything "new & exciting". It sounds more like they have finally realized they need to "catch up" with other consoles.

If they do this well, I may be purchasing my first Nintendo home console since N64.

I'm just hoping it's at least a smidge more powerful than the XB1/PS4. I mean, Wii U games done by Nintendo look fantastic already as their art style manages to hide the technical shortcomings. But if they had the most powerful console on the market with their usual high standard of games... Oh baby.

The speculation too is that the console will launch this year, then the portable will follow so we should find that out at E3. Hoping that the streaming to the optional portable is the gimmick and that the standard box is just a regular old console.

Agreed on all points there. My XB1 does well for the entertainment medium of the household, though my son has my 360 in his room for the same thing.

He and my wife are HUGE Mario fans, so they would absolutely love it as well.

Now, if they get the hardware right, let's hope they follow up with a Metroid title worthy of the name. Hell, I would be down for a classic-type Castlevania at this point too. The 3d ones felt too "DMC" for my liking. Not knocking DMC, but it simply isn't Castlevania.

Defo need a new Metroid. Not been a total fan of the Prime series but adore the 2D ones.

Forgot to mention that Nintendo has a patent on a controller that is all screen, but has buttons within the screen itself, which is a bit weird.

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conten...x1-980x636.jpg

For me, I hope it's something they've just been playing around with. I'm not a fan of touchscreen buttons and much rather have the real thing.

You know.... a 3rd person Metroid with a Gears of War// Mass Effect 2/3 style could be very interesting.

Obviously things would have to be scaled up a bit with the over-the-shoulder perspective to keep the environments true to the series, but it could be possible. Hell they could even have a 2nd PoV kinda like Prime when you would switch to the morph ball.

Add some "rpg" elements to it outside of just finding gear. Say you get the freeze beam - then you have traits to add to the freeze beam or something. It could give players a way to play "their own way".

Touchscreen buttons are the worst.

ugh forgot about that pic of that controller

That'd be pretty hot.

Thinking about the survey picture again and if it's what's in the box and they go with a sensor bar, we'll likely have backwards compatibility all the way back to the Wii. That would be good and bad as it's great to have all that on one console, but then we have PowerPC architecture again which could put any 3rd parties off if they've got x84 on PC and the other consoles.

still using powepc :(

You never know, MS figured out emulating PowerPC on their system.... Not that I can see Nintendos software engineers working it out.

They probably have a huge stock of unsold Wii U CPUs though since it bombed comparatively to expectations, so maybe the first revision of the console will have that chip in it and the graphics will likely be AMD again since it has been from the Gamecube and they're keen to have those ideas, so it might not be PowerPC... Here's hoping anyway.

Even if they could figure it out, a big reason I haven't bought a Nintendo console is because of shit games outside of marquee titles (anything Mario, Zelda, you know the ones). Don't care for Pokemon AT ALL or many of the games they came with.

Just hope if they do stick with PowerPC they don't get shafted by game devs.

Pokemon main series is pretty much limited to the handhelds

I think that at this point, you have to buy a Nintendo console just for Nintendo games. Even with the Wii being so popular, 3rd party games barely sold. I have a shitton of Wii U and 3DS games so don't regret buying either, but I can see why they would combine their home and handheld consoles. There's occasional game droughts and having all teams concentrate on games for both platforms should get rid of that. Splatoon was a hell of a release, so hopefully they focus on that and not shit Amiibo led games. I don't mind Amiibo generally, but shit like Animal Crossing board games can fuck right off.

Speaking of, just bought Xenoblade Chronicles X. Need a nice long JRPG with FUCKING MECHS.

Yeah, but if the handheld and console are combined, we might finally have a full console Pokemon too.

That would be awesome. Pokemon Stadium NX confirmed 2017?

:wavesad:

Want a new metroid game so bad. At this point I don't care if it's in the classic 2d style or Prime style first person.

Other M can go fuck itself though.

but Samus is a woman and thus must be sensitive

They could EASILY make a 2D Metroid and it would be ridiculous. Did anyone play the recent-ish Strider?

That game is super fun and looks beautiful, especially fighting the gravitrons or w/e they are called.

Zero Suit Samus don't GAF - at least in Smash!

Dunno if I should be excited or facepalming/SMDH @ sensor bar being used with this upcoming console.

4K gaming console or gtfo.

Wii U came with a sensor bar that is 0% required to play any current-gen titles. It's for backwards compatibility with Wii discs. I fully anticipate the same situation for this newer console.

Remember being stoked when I saw that came with the wiiu. Thought for sure that'd be a seperate purchase.

Good thing EA doesn't make consoles. System would come with no controllers or hard drive, but you could by an 800 dollar season pass for all hardware.

Bi-monthly firmware update for only $35!

It already exists :|

After buying all the Smash DLC for Wii U and 3DS, I'm so ready for the Nintendo Account. Was far too long inputting all the 3DS codes.

Maybe...hadn't thought of that, so naturally it raised an eyebrow.

Imagine if there's a traditional set of next-gen consolex to follow PS4 & XB1 that you could log in to either or both using either traditional u:/pw: PLUS some kind of biometric as like a n additional optional thing, or just having them do away with u: & pw: systems (they do seem pretty archaic) for a biometric log-in/out system, such as retina scan, or maybe tapping a designated spot on your controller or console for "digital fingerprint" kind of thing.

Dunno how practical any of that would be, but hey, it's a thought.

YUP

How much were Corrin/Bayonetta? I hadn't checked yesterday. Gotten all other DLC to date (minus a couple stages and all the Mii costume garbage), feel like my cost:play ratio for Smash is really bad compared to something like Pokemon Shuffle :o

Nintendo might be funding development of Beyond Good and Evil 2 like how they did with Bayonetta 2
http://www.destructoid.com/rumor-nin...medium=twitter

Still need to play the first one. Has a pretty huge rep.

Foxconn told investors that things are quiet right now, but the second half of the year will be busy with producing the iPhone 7, next Surface tablet... And the Nintendo NX. Called out by name.

I finished BG&E a few months ago. It's such a nice little game, you can see why there's so much fondness for a sequel. The gameplay is really PS2y, in that it's an attempt at stealthy stuff that didn't work great and stopped existing in that era. It has a nice eclectic feel to it though, you never feel like you're repeating the same thing.

There's an earnings call on April 27th. In that, they'll have to say something if it's planned to come out in the next 12 months, so we'll know fairly soon.

Dunno, but obviously, the longer Nintendo takes to finish and release the NX, the farther they are getting "behind the 8-ball" IMHO.

incredible #hottake

I get the impression that's ssrcasm?

this is going around as a "leaked" controller picture.

http://i.imgur.com/e3Hnygp.png

Personally, I think someone saw the patent and made a version of that. It's quite convincing, but I'm not buying it.

Honestly, if that was the controller, this is the first Nintendo console I don't get on launch day since I've been working.

That looks pretty fucked up..... but also looks kinda faked.

I believe I may buy Nintendo's next console IF........


They give us a proper Metroid game :rant:

There's a story in Nikkei, the Japanese business newspaper that says Wii U production is planned to end this year. It's all signing up.

sweet maybe every Wii U title will become a Nintendo Select and I can get a bunch of good games for $20

already regret paying $70 or w/e for Pokken, not that it's a bad game or anything I just really am apathetic towards fighters

If the NX is backwards compatible, I don't see WiiU game prices dropping.

True, but who knows what they've got planned for this thing

If you're dropping full price on games you don't care about, why worry about hypothetical savings?

Not trying to be a dick or anything

Oh for sure, I just meant some of the games I was on the fence about, something like Hyrule Warriors for example

Dude. You bring down the moon from Majoras Mask from the sky to crush things. Go trade in Pokken now you have the card to keep.

Shit, reminds me I need the 3DS version for the new characters too.

Dunno pokken looks pretty fun, and I'm not a big pokemon fan. I like tekken though.

Oh no. Oh god no. I mean, even as a Nintendo fanboy that was all too willing to accept the gamepad, this would make me question things if true. Did I say oh no?

https://i.imgur.com/pkfWmFK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GB8lTkz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YsGkiV7.jpg

From the editor of GameInformer:

http://i.imgur.com/W7PEAoS.png
http://i.imgur.com/GeHnlMZ.png

https://i.imgur.com/w5cWvVy.png

Like, a smaller version of the gamepad? I'm down for. No face buttons? Ughhhh.

Still possible to be false of course, but too much smoke for my liking.

Seems like way too much effort to fake that controller in that way compared to the other one.

In slightly worrying stalkery news, someone seems to think this is leaked by Ubisoft Massive based on the Swedish keyboard layout and the reflection of a tree.

http://i.imgur.com/lRleegF.png

There was mention when that patent came out that Sharp (I think) had some magic button touchscreen/button tech.

I think it might be that thing, after reading Ian Bogost's review of the Wii U again. Its a great read and worth thinking about Nintendo's philosophy

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/featur...ant_go_on_.php

I think they'll want to make something never seen before

The white one has buttons on or possibly even deeper inside the screen when you look close. One could be newer or older though, so who knows what they're doing with it.

Touching a screen without any sort of travel time is a deal breaker for me though. I can barely deal with it for my phone or tablet and have keyboard addons for both.

Its mental.

The thing with Nintendo is, there's no guarantee they will make the controls perfect either. After the Motion Plus they're quite happy to put out wonky stuff.

I can't remember being this intruiged

We need to go deeper.

https://i.imgur.com/3snQpj7.jpg

Size makes sense, but hopefully it would at least come with a plastic shell to clip on some grips. Feel like it would be like the original Wii Classic Controller to hold AKA not nice.

Really would hope for actual buttons. Really have a hatred for "digital" or "on-screen" buttons/d-pads that dominate tablet/mobile games.

Rip Nintendo

a new b-hole

I wore a Nintendo sweatshirt in the early 90s and was ridiculed for it. Now it would be the greatest item of clothing I could own and everyone would high five me. I'm in it for life. The rest of you can fuck off and I'll be perfectly happy smearing my thumb sweat over some fucking weird egg.

That's why it was easier to be a Sega fanboy. They had the decency to die ;)

...

:(

It's bollocks!

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...ts-gather-pace

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Yeah, wow. That's really well done.

Un-rip Nintendo

Oh, he's one of your people. Doing it for the upvotes.

I'm not sure I follow

Apparently there is another rumored version of the controller floating around Reddit which has the screen feature of the faked oval controller but also has actual buttons and in a more traditional controller shape.

Same source of the rumor debunked the faked oval controllers before the leakers themselves revealed it was hoaxes.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/...ith_a_real_nx/

What's this about a dev saying the NX has more powah than the PS4? I mean, it should given the year but I wasn't sure Nintendo wanted to go that route.

We're in full on bullshit mode now. There's always someone after neogaf or reddit cred.

Noone with any sort of track record has said anything yet. There's was someone on twitter that people started to post as a rumor said it was *as* powerful as the PS4/XB1, but it was designed for games, so could use more power. The fuck were the PS4 and XB1 designed for then?

Honestly, going out of cycle like this and after 2.5 years of the other consoles, if it's not at least as powerful as the competition after they went low power for cost, it would be pretty disappointing. Equal power should be a safe bet, but it's Nintendo, so who knows.

Nintendo has their financial results coming out on April 27th with a Q&A on the 28th. NX will likely be mentioned if it is coming out before April 2017, even if it's in passing and told to "wait for E3", but it would be nice to have it confirmed that it's this financial year.

XB1 focused more on other functionalities to begin with.

You don't put that graphics card in, have a cache of ESRAM and develop DirectX 12 if it wasn't designed for games. While it was promoted differently at the start, there's no way the actual design of the hardware wasn't for games.

NX will release globally in March 2017.

Well dang. At least my wallet will recover from PSVR and Christmas by then. Hopefully we'll see some stuff at E3.

Won't touch on the NX, but here's Zelda which is coming out for it. Hopefully they make it clear which version is being shown.

Also, not expecting much from Nintendo at this E3 at all. Think 2016 is going to be the end of the Wii drought where we get very little. Think the only majorish games coming for the Wii U are Paper Mario and #FE.

The Legend of Zelda will be the only playable game Nintendo brings to E3. Complete E3 plans will be announced later on. Wii U version only too.

Fucking lol.

Nintendo, Where Are They Now?

disappointing stuff I guess

have tons of 3DS games to play through though so w/e

does this affect preorder stuff at all for Zelda Wii U

Like what

Probably not. You'll just have to wait until March.

I have no idear how that stuff works, like... when the preorders opened they had the tentative "December 31, 2016" date as they didn't know the actual release date, I wasn't sure if they were "bound" to release it by that date or w/e

not that I'd care, I'll wait regardless, just curious of the intricacies of it all I guess

I havne't heard of a store not honouring a pre-order because the date changed, nah. Hell, I think a couple of crazy people got Duke Nukem Forever pre-orders honoured.

North Americans seem really into pre-ordering games for some reason.

I generally avoid them but Best Buy was having a sale where you could buy a title and get 30% of a preordered title or something so I figured why the hell not

Ah, we don't have any of those sorts of incentives. Just a stupid 'Day One' edition that you can buy anyway.

It's always funny when a big title release gets that treatment and then there ends up being ample amounts.

I remember back in my heavier WoW-playing days, when the first expansion came out I preordered two copies (had two accounts going at the time) and showed up at store open at Best Buy to get it, and there was a huge display in the front of the store and literally nobody else was waiting for it. Felt like a bit of a tit for worrying so much but w/e

There have been shortages before due to unexpected demand, but nothing too drastic since Dead Island in the UK. Ratchet and Clank has been hard to find in some countries.

Generally, I only pre-order when there's a decent offer. The Game Collection and Simply Games usually have good pre-release deals that go up after release, so if they're below £40, I'll jump on them.

Really hope Amazon brings over their 20% off all pre-orders with Prime thing they have in America.

Hilariously, Day One editions of Final Fantasy Type 0 with the XV demo are still available in stores.

Also, Nintendo are saying they're delaying Zelda for quality, but being delayed until the new console comes out? Come on Nintendo. We're not silly.

Really hoping they're holding out for AMD Polaris, but I know they won't be. Probably be lower powered again.

Maybe they delayed the NX for Zelda and other games rather than the other way around?

Lots of things must be in a bad state to have them miss holiday.

Back when people KNEW it was FINALLY releasing, I made what is to this day the worst personal decision in gaming and pre-ordered the $100 "Balls of Steel" Edition...."a fool and his money", "caveat emptor", etc., etc.

I hope the rumors are true of NX going to a subscription based model. Hate buying games, And paying something like 15$ a month wont be bad. Nintendo would be getting more money out of me than they do now.

Seriously, what the hell. Is this going to be like some super huge mega Zelda game? They should have had a Zelda game out like a year ago.

Yeup since the stuff they've shown off or hinted about in the past makes it seem to be closer to a Skyrim or Fallout series for scope and size.

That makes sense and I sure hope so.

According to Nintendo, the official reason for the NX's March launch date instead of a possible Holiday 2016 date is due to them wanting more time to build up the console's launch library.

Also unlike the Wii U, they currently don't have plans to sell the console at a loss for its launch.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nin.../1100-6439399/


Recent rumors had been teasing Nintendo is currently planning for the first year of the NX's lifespan to have as many Nintendo produced games as the Wii U did for its entire lifespan.