Is everyone still mad at the WWE for naming their RAW title as the WWE Universal Championship?
 

Because they renamed Dean Ambrose's title to the WWE World Championship. Considering how fickle they are with their naming scheme, I wouldn't be surprised if they renamed it to something else.

Feel free to post your feelings about the topic at hand

oh man I am so 'irl' angry about it I just might explode!!!

I don't mind the name, I just don't like the inevitable idea that the WWE World Championship will become "secondary" to the Universal Championship.

Yeah! Remember when the WWE Championship was secondary to Hunter's World Heavyweight Championship?

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I would like it better if all of Raws titles were Universal branded except for the US title. Feel like it needs to be the WWE Universal Heavyweight Championship. Really though Universal Championship sounds like something TNA would name the Legends/ Global/ TV/KotM championship next.

Daniel Bryan refered to Deans title as the WWE World Heavyweight Championship but Shane was just calling it the WWE World Championship so they might have dropped the Heavyweight from the names but with the Cruiserweight division returning you would think they would keep Heavyweight in the name.

Universe is trillions and trillions of times bigger than the world...

Remember when the WWE World Heavyweight Championship was secondary to Cena's United States Championship?

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Vince wants Wrestlemania on Mars.

I would have preferred "Global." It's less of a mouthful and doesn't sound as "super duper big guys!" as "Universal" is supposed to sound. You could have had one side have World Championships and the other have Global Championships, but then you are basically talking about the same thing, so the problems with the draft are still apparent philosophically.

That being said, it has forced the WWE to up its creative (on RAW for week one anyway) and try new things. "Universal" also fits them being under the NBC Universal umbrella. That being said, I'd be fine if they renamed it next week.

With as little a threat they are, they still have a competitor named globa force wrestling, no way they would use that word.

WWE NBC Universal Has Us By the Balls Championship

WWE Local Galactic Cluster Championship

Possible leaked images of the Universal Championship

Looks badass if true but I'm not sure just seen it on Twitter. Kind of looks like a fake though, someone just edited the WWF Championship.

Gotta be fake.

Fixed.

Just face palmed when I heard that name. Feels like they left it up to Shane's kids what to name it. I expect the belt to look like some kinda mash up between the divas belt and Jeff Hardy ' s TNA belt.

You'd smoke them out really quickly, not that you'd want to, because they are a non-factor.

Sounds very childish. Like something you'd see in Saturday morning cartoons

I wonder how much of my precious WWE Shop Cash I'd have to spend for that in SmackDown! vs. RAW..,

I like it because it opens it up for them to do an angle with aliens coming to RAW to challenge for the title.

Wrestling's bread and butter was Saturday Morning. So, it is perfect. Stickman has done it guys.

Shut it down.

I know people who still call it "WWF" and refuse to acknowledge it as "WWE". I wonder what the think of the new title.

:lol:

Or like they reveal that someone like Rusev is not actually Russian, or Bulgarian, but is in fact, Laroovian.

Mark Henry reveals he had surgery as a kid and is actually a Klingon.

Could have some luchadors with extraterrestrial gimmicks.

The Mad Titan, La Parka.

The Mad Titan, Rollermacka

I thought the same thing after posting that. We should get a grassroots champaign going for Paul "The Mad" Titan to get a shot at the new Infinity Championship.

Should have just changed the two world titles to the RAW Heavyweight Championship and Smackdown Heavyweight Championship respectively. Universal Championship sounds way to cartoony, and it also makes it clear that they're trying to make the RAW title "better" than the Smackdown one. It's just stupid if you ask me. Besides Dean won the triple threat and is now best Shield member for life so the belt he took off with is always going to be the real one as far as I'm concerned.

RAW and SmackDown Championships sound pretty bad too, to be honest. Being champion of a show? It's just...eh. You might as well be the NBC Universal Presents USA Network's Mr. Robot Heavyweight Champion.

Give me a World Heavyweight Champion, please.

Everyone on the Internet is just gonna be calling them the Raw and SD World/Women's/Tag titles anyway. Only the IC and US belts will get unique distinctions after a while.

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You've got two though. Calling them both the World Heavyweight Champion is just stupid. It's like how you've got a World Heavyweight Champion in every promotion in the world. How can they all be the World Champion? There's only one world. Having more than one just makes them all look cheap. If you're the champion of your promotion then that should be your title, not "champion of the world."

How long until everyone starts asking for them to be united again?

To me if a championship is defended around the world than it should be called a World Champioship. With that being said Earth is in the Universe so the name fits and is better than having 2 World Heavyweight Championships.

In all fairness it's not "champion of the universe" it's "champion of the WWE universe"

Does that mean that anyone from the WWE Universe is eligible to fight for it? Santino Marella debuted way too early :smh:

Should bring back Planet Stasiak

I still stand by the fact that "Universal Title" sounds like something you win in an E-Fed.

I think they change it after it don't catch on.

Devil's advocacy:

I think it was at least an attempt. Unlike last time, where you had the WWE Heavyweight Champion and "The World" Heavyweight Champion.

Like, they couldn't even think of a name. Or, when Ric Flair first showed up in WWF with his own belt and that gimmick of proclaiming himself as "The REAL World Champion" and photoshopped himself into pictures with Elizabeth.

Before Photoshop was invented.

I don't really mind the name, only I would prefer the simplified WWE Raw Heavyweight Championship and WWE Smackdown Heavyweight Championship, then in a few years when the split is over, unify the titles and bring back the WORLD aspect to the title....

I want to touch my penis when Sasha Banks is on tv

Why the fuck does it matter what it's called? If it breeds good matches, you could call it the Dog Shit Championship of Oprah's Buttcrack, and it wouldn't matter. You guys are nitpicky as fuck, considering this is pro wrestling.

Besides, like Destor said, it's named as such because of the WWE UNIVERSE. A brand that clearly isn't going anywhere.

The name is fine.

This is why such a soft brand split is dumb and potentially alienating to new viewers. When they had the WWE Title and World Title, at least you got the sense that one was the company's championship and the other was some sort of externally acquired championship. But then they unified them, produced a stale product and now they have to do something for attention again. This could have all been averted if they had just put focus into making SmackDown not shit.

You're right, that's why you get shows titled "Generic Cop Show #134" and "Stage Sitcom #442" dominating the airwaves. Marketing departments were disbanded years ago in business, because what you name something in today's day and age just doesn't matter.

Will you change your name on TPWW to Cunty McGee to prove this point? That would actually be kinda cool given your legendary status and since you have more credibility than this new title has, but I'm suggesting that because I want to see it.

I don't give a fuck what you want to see. My point is you guys are over-analyzing the name of a title on a fictional fighting show. The first match for it is Seth Rollins v. Finn Balor, so call it whatever you want, because that sounds awesome.

Names are brands, Thrilla.

And we are already fans. So how is this our problem? Are you about to stop watching because of this? The name isn't for us.

Shouldn't things be for us? The people who are actually watching the fuckin' show? Not some dumbshit idea that the Attitude Era bandwagoners will come back after 15 years?

It's just a title name. How is everyone ignoring the Seth Rollins v. Finn Balor part? THAT is for us.

That title isn't named to bring back Attitude viewers, either. No idea why you even said that. I know I didn't.

Don't get what you meant by not being for "us." Who If not viewers? If anything they explicitly said it was for us by naming it after the WWE Universe but chose a dumb name.

I'm saying that they probably aren't assuming that the entire fanbase is a bunch of nitpicking blowhards. Like the IWC. Which is us.

Cool King gets it. He's still not invited to Crabfest, though.

Lock Jaw Fact: Back in the day of ARMCHAIR WARFARE, Lock Jaw ran the fictitious "Universal Carnage Enterprises" (UCE) and strongly considered making the top belt the "Universal Heavyweight Title", before scaling it back to merely representing our own world.

Hardcore Wrestling Fan: "Dude, you used to like wrestling. You're gonna love this match. Finn Balor and Seth Rollins are awesome.:

Casual Wrestling Fan: "Cool, I'll give it a shot."

THE FOLLOWING CONTEST IS FOR THE WWE UNIVERSAL CHAMPIONSHIP

CWF: *snickers* "Sounds gay as fuck."

HWF: "Whatever, it's about the match and these guys are top notch."

CWF: *chuckles* "Gay ass championship is all I can think about. I remember why it's embarrassing to watch wrestling."

I also booked an AJ Styles vs. John Cena program years ago (but then also added Alberto Del Rio into the program and then had Alberto go over them and become world champ)

You know what's cool? Walking around with your cell phone catching imaginary monsters.

I stopped watching regularly a while ago.

People do get numb to atrocities. We have no parallel to compare those examples to. Who is to say that Nick Nemeth wouldn't have been taken more seriously than Dolph Ziggler? It's still a ridiculous name and it could be argued that if he ditched it he'd be better off.

You're absolutely right -- hardcore fans will get used to the name "Universal Title" soon, but it will still be mocked as being objectively bad. Unless they did some sort of market research on this and discovered that people respond positively to the name. Most of the feedback I've seen is "That is fucking stupid" though.

This is very true. I often think about this. People still seem to latch onto how fake it is as an argument. Do you think hold some sort of cultural grudge over being lied to? Is the presentation anachronistic and too testosterone-driven to be deemed as tasteful in today's day and age?

Trends aren't always logical. Dominant entertainment companies seem to be the ones that respond best to them or find ways to dictate what the trend is going to be. There may not be a logical explanation as to why Game of Thrones is cool but professional wrestling isn't, but you can't argue against the perception. It's how things are.

If the internet were around back then, people would have been bitching about how the "Intercontinental Championship" sounds dumb.

Now, it's one of the most revered titles.

Not a bad name. I would rather have it been called the Intergalatic Planetary Belt tho. I like my sugar with coffee and cream.

Well I gotta keep it going
Keep it going full steam

But was it because of a title's name?

You sure as hell haven't stopped posting about it regularly.

Pretty sure this conversation wouldn't ever happen. If so, CWF is a knob.

I mean I get thrillers point that in the grand scheme of things its about the product...but that doesnt make the name good, it's still pretty bad.

I think the name will grow on people and it's not that bad of a name. It does sound TNAish a bit but it fits with the WWE Universe theme so it works. Really my only gripe is the lack of the word Heavyweight.

It'll grow on people just like the"Divas Division" and the pink butterfly/vagina strap.

They better deliver on the design of the title!

Fucking terrible name. Not even 10 year olds think that's a cool name.

RAW Heavyweight Championship would have been just fine. Yes, it suggests the title is lesser than the WWE World Heavyweight championship - it should! It was just invented! It doesn't have any history or prestige! So, it's fitting.

Whatever. Maybe they'll change it later on when they realize people absolutely hate it.

I don't even love the name. But it seriously doesn't matter. Not even a little bit.

What do you mean it doesn't matter?

I feel like Universal Championship is better than plain old Raw Championship that a lot of people seem to be in favor of.

If you are actually interested in my opinion on the matter, click just one page back and read anything there

I agree.

But ABT: is it any good? Yes/no?

It's fine.

In three months I'm still going to cringe everytime I hear "Universal Championship"

If Stardust came up with that name, it would've made sense.

How does it not make sense though? WWE Universe = WWE Universal Championship. It may be kind of silly but it makes sense.

Making sense and pro wrestling don't go hand in hand. If that were the case, Big Show would be champ for 15 years because it wouldn't make sense for anyone to be able to really beat a guy that size.

Used the term generically. You should know what I meant. Got the point across. Nitpicky bastard.

SUPERIMPOSED, then. They glued pictures of Flair's face over pictures of Macho Man with Liz... and we went along with the ride that Mach didn't remember being in those places with her to know those doctor'd pics weren't legit.

... and I still think the other RAW titles should just follow the "Universal" trend. It would be less ugly if they were a matching set, as it were.

Rebrand them all, except maybe the U.S. "Universal States" is just plain dumb.

I agree. Universal Championship should be with the Universal Tag Team Championships and Universal Women's Championship. While Smackdown has all World Championships.

The tag titles need a redesign so it wouldn't be hard to rebrand them as WWE Universal Tag Team Championships but the Women's Championship would be tough to change after just being created this year.

Dont dodge the question