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slik 10-05-2016 12:33 PM

Logan (2017)
 
The final film where Hugh Jackman will play Wolverine.


http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/u...gan-poster.jpg

Ruien 10-05-2016 01:38 PM

Only 6 months away! Hell ya.

Droford 10-05-2016 06:36 PM

I thought this was going to be the remake if the only movie that actually needs a remake Logan's Run

Lock Jaw 10-05-2016 06:39 PM

Interesting that pretty much nothing is known about this movie and it comes out "so soon"......

Feel like the only news I have ever heard about it was that Hugh Jackman is in it and that it features an "Old Man" Logan.......

Haven't heard about anybody else being cast, any plot details, or the movie even shooting........

course, maybe I just haven't been paying attention......

Blonde Moment 10-05-2016 07:37 PM

They released a page of the script and for some reason I get the impression that this one could be a hard one to watch.

Kalyx triaD 10-06-2016 10:30 AM

We know Stewart is on board doing Prof X one last time as well. This is definitely the future of the post 'Days timeline. X23 is in. It's an adaptation of sorts of Old Man Logan, likely a loose one as per the X-Movies style. That's what we know. The villain was announced by I forget his name. Curiously X23, a young girl instead of a teenager here, was never officially revealed by character or actress. We only know it's actually Laura because it's common sense. Having Logan be a father figure can only really be done by introducing X23. It's also the one major Wolverine related character never to hit live action yet.

Fignuts 10-06-2016 04:03 PM

Mr Sinister is the villain.

Fignuts 10-06-2016 04:11 PM

Feel like Daken would make more sense as the villain, especially with Logan doing the Wolf and Cub thing with this kid who isn't actually his kid. Sinister has never really had anything to do with wolverine in the comics. His obsession is the summers bloodline.

Simple Fan 10-06-2016 04:14 PM

I feel like if they do replace Jackman after this film that the best thing to do would be to just recast Wolverine and put him in his cowl. No one will be interested in a female Wolverine I don't think. Atlest not as much as a male one that looks like the comics.

Fignuts 10-06-2016 04:23 PM

I dunno, it depends on the execution. X-23 is one of the most popular new characters in the last decade, so if they can translate what makes her so great to the screen, then it could definitely work.

Given x-men's track record tho, it's a big if. They are very hit or miss.

Kalyx triaD 10-06-2016 10:32 PM

I'm still certain they're lining up Gambit to be the new leading guy. Unless Ms Lawrence wants to do another trilogy as the face of the series.

Fignuts 10-07-2016 04:31 AM

Ugh

Hate gambit

Tom Guycott 10-10-2016 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4870596)
Feel like Daken would make more sense as the villain, especially with Logan doing the Wolf and Cub thing with this kid who isn't actually his kid. Sinister has never really had anything to do with wolverine in the comics. His obsession is the summers bloodline.

Can you imagine Wolverine's baby stroller of death?

RP 10-11-2016 05:14 PM

The villain will be Donald Pierce and The Reavers.

I've see pics of Jackman and i'm pretty sure he's not as old as he looks on set. I think they're doing Old Man Logan. And now that we know the villains and judging by the promo poster with the childs hand, i'm wondering if they are adapting the story from the latest Old Man Logan run, in issue 6 and issue 7. He goes to a mining town and protects a young girl who i think is suppose to be the love of his life in some sort of time warp shit. Anyhow, The Reavers and Lady Deathstrike. Its a real good story.

http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Old-...091&readType=1

JimmyMess 10-20-2016 09:54 AM

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this gave me chills. So excited.

Rammsteinmad 10-20-2016 10:38 AM

Different trailer than the one I saw on Facebook. One I saw had Logan shoving his claws right into someone's jaw, and having them protrude from the top of their head. Wasn't expecting that!

Mostly the same otherwise. Looks good.

JimmyMess 10-20-2016 11:05 AM

that sounds awesome! claws, jaw, head! didn't come across that!

Rammsteinmad 10-20-2016 11:18 AM

http://img.cinemablend.com/quill/4/9...a858a18f56.jpg

Rammsteinmad 10-20-2016 11:20 AM

Here it is. Trailer is basically the same except for that one moment, which honestly caught me completely off-guard in terms of it's violence and brutality. Hopefully we'll get more of it though haha! :D

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#BROKEN Hasney 10-20-2016 11:52 AM

Jesus, this is a helluva day for trailers. That looks fucking great.

Lock Jaw 10-20-2016 08:34 PM

UGH. MY EMOTIONS.

Saddest song in the world.... :'(

Looks good.

Lock Jaw 10-20-2016 08:35 PM

"Weird" that it is coming after a movie where Logan traveled back in the past to create a better/brighter future....... now it is like "ha ha joke's on you, the future sucks anyways"

Kalyx triaD 10-20-2016 10:54 PM

I'll take that future over the killer robot future.

RP 10-22-2016 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4876799)
"Weird" that it is coming after a movie where Logan traveled back in the past to create a better/brighter future....... now it is like "ha ha joke's on you, the future sucks anyways"

Well, if you're not following the comics as far as Wolverine goes, I can get why you think this. Like i said earlier, this movie is getting adapted from the Old Man Logan perspective. I might have been wrong about the exact story i was thinking they were adapting, but read Old Man Logan on the site i linked. You'll get it.

Lock Jaw 10-22-2016 02:49 AM

I read the original Old Man Logan.........

RP 10-22-2016 02:53 AM

read the new ones.. i think its at 12 issues now.

Innovator 10-22-2016 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4877158)
I read the original Old Man Logan.........

I wonder if they'll go the route of why Logan is hiding

Heyman 10-23-2016 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sliksuke nakamura (Post 4869998)
The final film where Hugh Jackman will play Wolverine.


http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/u...gan-poster.jpg

I can't wait to see this.

Heyman 10-23-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4870607)
I dunno, it depends on the execution. X-23 is one of the most popular new characters in the last decade, so if they can translate what makes her so great to the screen, then it could definitely work.

Given x-men's track record tho, it's a big if. They are very hit or miss.

I wouldn't be an advocate of X-23. X-Men already has enough 'feminine hero's' in Jean Grey, Mystique, Storm, etc. X-Men needs some more man-on-man penis-on-penis.

I know you (Fignuts) won't like this, but Gambit becoming a relevant character in future movies might be a shrewd move. You can still have Xavier and Magneto as your 'alpha's', but getting Gambit in there to replace Wolverine's stardom might not be a bad way to go. #ChanningTatum

Heyman 10-23-2016 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4870598)
No one will be interested in a female Wolverine I don't think.

I can't speak on behalf of others, but I for one would NOT be interested in some gay female Wolverine. If you're taking out Wolverine, add in Gambit. Don't make Gambit the 'alpha' of the franchise as Wolverine has been, but just get Gambit in there to get a 'big name' some air-time. Gambit can be similar to Quicksilver in this regard.

Heyman 10-23-2016 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4876864)
I'll take that future over the killer robot future.

Kalyx TriaD is correct.

Sixx 10-23-2016 11:23 AM

wolverine is easily the most recognizable x-men and i do not think anyone else could take his spot as the top guy or however you'd call it

but i'd like some x-men to be added to the franchise, like colossus for example

Kalyx triaD 10-23-2016 12:56 PM

X23 is a little girl here so unless she's gonna time travel back to the 90s and hyper age to the X23 we know she's not gonna headline the franchise.

It's still very likely gonna get passed to Gambit. Unless Mystique is gonna headline the next trilogy.

Fignuts 10-23-2016 07:49 PM

Calling X-23 a female wolverine is a gross oversimplication of the character. I'm not saying she could replace hugh jackman's wolverine, but she could be a great addition to the franchise in her own right.

Also, while the franchise has had a number of female x-men over the years, none of them are real "badasses". That's something x-23 can bring to the table.

Mystique should be badass, but instead they turned the character into a one dimensional hero, just because they didn't want J-law to be evil or something.

Lock Jaw 10-23-2016 07:52 PM

She is literally a female wolverine right now

Sixx 10-23-2016 07:53 PM

that she is, along with the suit and everyone calls her wolverine.

Fignuts 10-23-2016 08:05 PM

She took on the mantle of wolverine after he died. That's not what Heyman is talking about and you freaking mooks know it.

Sixx 10-23-2016 08:14 PM

i honestly didn't read heyman's post.

Heyman 10-24-2016 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 4877634)
Calling X-23 a female wolverine is a gross oversimplication of the character. I'm not saying she could replace hugh jackman's wolverine, but she could be a great addition to the franchise in her own right.

Also, while the franchise has had a number of female x-men over the years, none of them are real "badasses". That's something x-23 can bring to the table.

Mystique should be badass, but instead they turned the character into a one dimensional hero, just because they didn't want J-law to be evil or something.

You are right, but I'm just not sure 'mainstream' would see it this way. If there's too many 'female hero's' in one movie, I think it could turn people off.

You need your penises in there whether we like it or not. Storm, Jean Grey, Mystique, and Jubiliee (if they ever do anything with her), is more than enough. You also got that one chick (heel chick that supported Apocalypse in that last movie) who will likely play prominent roles in future movies.

Most casual fans like me don't know who X-23 is. Most non comic books nerds won't know who she is.

It's a far easier sell to just bring in Gambit to help fill the star power void of the departed Hugh Jackman.

Kalyx triaD 10-24-2016 12:24 PM

I don't think we have a reference for a majority super heroine movie turning people off. Ghostbusters don't count.

Couple years ago they had an all X-Women book that was pretty cool. Before the social justice bullshit so it was a genuine setup.

Rammsteinmad 10-25-2016 01:15 PM

Damn, just occurred to me, this can't be Hugh Jackman's last Wolverine! I know he's getting old now, has played the character for 16 years over nine different movies, but dammit I wanna see a Wolverine/Deadpool movie. :(

JimmyMess 10-27-2016 09:18 AM

Or at least a cameo where he's like "Wade?" because he would have his "origins" memory even though this is a different Wade... but its not, but it is, but Days of future past redid everything, so things changed, but the deadpool and the wolverine would still know each other but they wouldn't?
http://goo.gl/NVYL7K

In all seriousness, I REALLY want Wolverine and Deadpool to interact at least once

Rammsteinmad 10-27-2016 10:11 AM

Exactly! ;)

Kalyx triaD 10-27-2016 01:27 PM

It's really not confusing at all.

Stryker's Team X never happened since Mystique likely screwed with his plans. Stryker did manage to get Logan into the Weapon X program against his will anyway (he volunteered pre-Days) and made him an animal.

The entirety of Deadpool could be explained as Wade's life post-Days. He never got put into Team X for his fighting ability, so he ended up a vigilante for higher in his own movie.

Days is the nexus point. Anything after that is the new timeline.

JimmyMess 10-27-2016 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4879433)
It's really not confusing at all.

Stryker's Team X never happened since Mystique likely screwed with his plans. Stryker did manage to get Logan into the Weapon X program against his will anyway (he volunteered pre-Days) and made him an animal.

The entirety of Deadpool could be explained as Wade's life post-Days. He never got put into Team X for his fighting ability, so he ended up a vigilante for higher in his own movie.

Days is the nexus point. Anything after that is the new timeline.

you know I was being goofy right....

Sixx 10-27-2016 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 4879433)
It's really not confusing at all.

Stryker's Team X never happened since Mystique likely screwed with his plans. Stryker did manage to get Logan into the Weapon X program against his will anyway (he volunteered pre-Days) and made him an animal.

The entirety of Deadpool could be explained as Wade's life post-Days. He never got put into Team X for his fighting ability, so he ended up a vigilante for higher in his own movie.

Days is the nexus point. Anything after that is the new timeline.

HEROES FOR HIGHER

Kalyx triaD 10-27-2016 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMess (Post 4879462)
you know I was being goofy right....

Really can't tell these days anymore. I've seen that exact kind of post on FB concerning the timelines.

JimmyMess 10-27-2016 08:06 PM

i guess not

slik 01-14-2017 03:06 AM

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JimmyMess 01-19-2017 10:20 AM

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Blonde Moment 01-19-2017 10:28 AM

The more I see the better I feel about seeing this

XL 01-19-2017 01:30 PM

Looks like a much more intimate movie, no global takeovers/wiping out of man/mutantkind. Looks really good.

Lock Jaw 01-19-2017 09:45 PM

Looks good......

Do not like Professor X dropping an F-bomb...... seems like it is "just because they can" now.......

Destor 01-19-2017 11:45 PM

Looks like the only thing theyre keeping from the source material is the dystopian future, the road trip aspect, and wolferine being "retired."

Which with thebcharacters they cant use is likely for the best

Disturbed316 01-20-2017 01:08 AM

Looking good.

Dodger881 01-28-2017 10:51 AM

Hugh Jackman is such a good Wolverine tbh

Sixx 01-28-2017 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 4915820)
Looks like the only thing theyre keeping from the source material is the dystopian future, the road trip aspect, and wolferine being "retired."

Which with thebcharacters they cant use is likely for the best

i'd love for hawkeye to be involved, he was great in the comics.

Destor 01-28-2017 08:02 PM

Xavier taking the hawkeye role seems odd

Also old man logan kills the retcon of hawkeye being deaf and make me laugh

Sixx 01-28-2017 08:06 PM

to be fair they forget he's deaf like every other issue.

but yeah, him being blind and not deaf here was very weird.

Rammsteinmad 03-02-2017 11:22 AM

Holy shit just got back from this! This is fucking amazing! This is the Wolverine movie we've been wanting for years! Seriously violent and profanity-laced. Aw man I loved it!

RP 03-02-2017 12:01 PM

I thought the first two Wolverines were horrible. I hope this is good.

Rammsteinmad 03-02-2017 12:23 PM

I enjoyed both previous Wolverine movies (I'm easily entertained, and I'm a sucker for anything Marvel-related)... but THIS is the Wolverine movie we've been waiting for! You won't be disappointed.

Rammsteinmad 03-02-2017 12:24 PM

Well, I don't know. You might be. Prick! :fu:

Damian Rey 2.0 03-02-2017 12:39 PM

Really liked the Wolverine. Pretty excited for Logan. Reading nothing but great things

RP 03-02-2017 12:39 PM

I dunno, I think every Spider-Man movie that's been made has been horrible.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-02-2017 09:16 PM

I only like Spiderman 2from the original trilogy. The other ones were meh.

Ruien 03-04-2017 12:32 AM

This shit is amazing. Holy fuck. So much awesome ness.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-04-2017 02:39 AM

Gonna see it Sunday I think

Destor 03-04-2017 05:59 PM

Probably the best superhero movie

Lock Jaw 03-04-2017 07:48 PM

Just got back..... I also loved it..... very good.....

I guess my only "gripe" is that I wouldn't have had Professor X swear so much..... I get that you "can", but it doesn't mean that you "should".........

Destor 03-04-2017 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4936831)
Just got back..... I also loved it..... very good.....

I guess my only "gripe" is that I wouldn't have had Professor X swear so much..... I get that you "can", but it doesn't mean that you "should".........

After working with people with dimentia through various stages it is completely authentic that he would swear. Even needlessly.

Lock Jaw 03-04-2017 09:47 PM

I guess....... not a very big "gripe", anyways...... still a great movie.....

Sixx 03-05-2017 12:30 AM

saw it, was great. not at all surprised i loved it. still have no idea what the fuck charles xavier was doing there but it worked somehow.

slik 03-05-2017 04:30 AM

Logan made me cry (almost twice even).

Violent, Emotional and Superb in every way. As with "The Dark Knight" this film transcends the label of a superhero movie. It's just flat-out great cinema. I suppose if you had to throw a genre label at it, it's a western.

Heyman 03-05-2017 11:43 AM

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Sad to see Charles Xavier killed by X-24 (a.k.a. "Wolverine Clone"), but great movie nonetheless.

Great movie!

p.s._____________I also felt sad that X-24 pretty much ends up killing Logan, but thought the final interaction between Logan and his daughter (X-23) was really well done.

Nice to see that X-23 and the other young mutants will get to Canada and continue the Mutant race.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-05-2017 12:26 PM

Thanks Heyman

Destor 03-05-2017 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4936967)
Thanks Heyman

Its your fault for opening the thread tbh, but yeah. Trolls gonna troll

Lock Jaw 03-05-2017 12:52 PM

?

Heyman's post seemed "legit"...... nothing seemed "trollish".......

Lock Jaw 03-05-2017 12:54 PM

Anyways, I knew I was in for a good time when even before the movie started and they showed that Deadpool thing, and I got to hear the Superman theme blasted over movie sound system.

Lock Jaw 03-05-2017 12:59 PM

Oh, ok. Destor has pointed out the "issue" being that Heyman gave away "spoilers" to the movie....... I just assume that people are smart enough to stay out of the official movie thread until they see the movie, I guess.........

Damian Rey 2.0 03-05-2017 01:55 PM

It is my fault but seeing as it just came out I'd assume spoiler tags would be used for a bit. Feel like that's been the case in other threads but oh well. Shouldn't effect my viewing experience regardless

Ruien 03-05-2017 01:57 PM

It won't.

mitchables 03-05-2017 05:49 PM

Even if I hadn't had this movie spoiled explicitly for me by people, everyone has been less than subtle in their reviews and it kind of spoiled the movie by proxy.

Ruien 03-05-2017 07:41 PM

How awesome that little girl must feel to be able to play little Wolverine. Is there plans for her to get her own movie? Hope so.

Vastardikai 03-05-2017 09:17 PM

Apart from the fact that I was disappointed that X-24 wasn't Daken (can't believe I just typed that), it was an excellent movie. 5/7 :shifty:

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What had happened with the X-Men was kind of sad, once you piece it together. And it makes you wonder what would happen if the most dangerous mind in the world suffers a severe cognitive disease.

And the atmosphere was perfect. It felt like the end of the era that it was meant to represent.

Wishbone 03-05-2017 10:48 PM

Can't believe I'm saying this but Fox did an X-Men movie right. Best in the franchise by far. Loved the little girl playing X-23. She was perfect in the role. Xavier had me in tears in a couple of scenes too. 9/10 easy.

McLegend 03-06-2017 02:18 PM

I was really impressed with the girl. Thought she was great.

Also glad that they stayed away from the timeline change. That would have been annoying.

Kalyx triaD 03-06-2017 02:54 PM

Amazing.

BigCrippyZ 03-06-2017 03:05 PM

Saw it yesterday. Phenomenal way to end Xavier and Logan. Unless Jackman comes back to do something with Reynolds' Deadpool, I don't want to see either of them again in these roles.

Heard the next X-Men film is supposed to take place in the 90's.

Wishbone 03-06-2017 04:59 PM

That was the original plan but I've been hearing rumors that they're dropping the Apocalypse timeline at least temporarily and trying to rework things due to that movie being a relative failure. Word is that Deadpool may be a much bigger focus going forward and that main X-Men titles won't be happening for a while.

I'm crossing my fingers that the kids in this movie get a movie down the line. I think the world they've created where mutants are almost extinct and fighting for survival in a distopian future is a far more interesting way to tell stories.

Lock Jaw 03-06-2017 06:22 PM

I've heard of two X-Men films coming up....

New Mutants, which focuses on the "New Mutants" team/concept from the comic book. Not sure where in the timeline this is supposed to take place.

X:Men - Supernova - Which is rumoured to be another take on doing Dark Phoenix. Continues from Apocalypse.

Either way, the rumours say that Xavier/Magneto and that whole rivalry/feud/friendship will be pushed way into the background.

McLegend 03-06-2017 06:27 PM

Apocalypse wasn't bad and they shouldn't change everything. Whatever though that's a different thread.
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When Logan says "So this is what it feels like." At the end I thought he was just referring to to dying. However he could have also been referring to Xavier's line about having a family. So basically that means that entire sequence is even deeper then I originally thought, and I thought it was pretty deep to begin with. That elevates the movie even more.

Wishbone 03-06-2017 06:34 PM

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That line really did hit hard no matter how you interpret it. Honestly I thought he was talking about the "having a family" line the whole time, but what you brought up makes a ton of sense too.

On Lock Jaw's comment, I've heard rumors of those too so IDK honestly. New Mutants would lend to the rumors I mentioned as it's not really a main X-Men movie with X-Men in the title. Supernova is another story, but I haven't heard much about it. If it is another take on the Dark Phoenix saga I'll be a bit disappointed. I just don't care much for the young cast, especially Sophie Turner who I just find annoying. I'd really prefer not to see them in a movie again, especially one where Turner is the main focus.

Lock Jaw 03-06-2017 06:51 PM

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I def took that line as "having a family"/"being at peace", even if for only just the briefest of moments before dying.....

Also, I may or may not have had to fight back tears in the movie theater.....

Vastardikai 03-06-2017 07:12 PM

I certainly had to deal with allergies all of a sudden.

Kalyx triaD 03-06-2017 07:21 PM

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"Daddy..." was the most brutal thing in a movie where dudes get sliced up.

Destor 03-06-2017 07:22 PM

My father and i both got something stuck in our eyes at the same time. Weird coincidence

Damian Rey 2.0 03-06-2017 07:42 PM

Didn't make it this weekend. Likely seeing it Saturday or Sunday. Pretty excited. Everything said here is overwhelmingly positive

Lock Jaw 03-06-2017 08:36 PM

Everything everywhere seems positive..... haven't seen/heard any negative reviews......

Ruien 03-06-2017 08:57 PM

How can you when there is a 10 year old girl putting the blade I'm her foot in someone's neck to take them out.


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