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Wrestler of the Year (IYO)
So 2016 has been a hell of a year in professional wrestling. There's been a lot of wrestlers who have had good years and some who have been amazing in 2016. Who do you think is Wrestler of the Year for 2016? (and we're talking national/ global television star, unfortunately can't choose HABM :'( )
My pick would be "Broken" Matt Hardy. He was always the "Other Hardy Brother" but he has completely reinvented himself and has arguably become a bigger star than Jeff. On top of the "Final Deletions", he has pretty much gotten TNA the most positive main stream attention they've had since they signed Hulk Hogan. |
AJ Styles hands down.
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Chris Jericho hands down.
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Matt Hardy balls down
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Got to go with Broken Matt Hardy. Jericho is a close second though.
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AJ Styles
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I'd also like to put in my vote for Wrestler of the Year 2017 now.
King Maxel. |
What about Non-Wrestler of the Year?
It's almost impossible to call between Vanguard 1 and Senor Benjamin. |
Skarsgard has to be up there to. After all he did save us from Apocalypto.
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AJ Styles
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Although to be honest..AJ Styles went from wrestling Nakamura in January at WK 10 to James Ellsworth in December..hmm
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AJ Styles
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Good question... Honestly 2016 has been a pretty meh year for pretty much everyone. AJ Styles' year started out great, but it's kinda taken a hit recently.
In terms of career growth I'd argue that Ellsworth has had the best year of all going from a literal nobody to an actually contracted WWE superstar. That shit's impressive regardless of how you feel about the guy. If we're going by who's entertained me personally the most this year though I'd have to probably say Chris Jericho w/ an honorable mention to Kevin Owens as some of the best stuff has been them working off one another. I mean it's kinda stupid, but I always get a laugh when those two are on screen. |
The winner is The Phenomenal One AJ Styles. You don't want none. Hardy voters are jokers and tokers.
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Nobody can seriously say Hardy is wrestler of the year. How many times did he actually wrestle when it wasn't a pre-tape jerkoff sessions for him and his family and friends?
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Nikky Chance.
He finally got his CHW Interstate Title back. |
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Who? Everybody voting AJ Styles.
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I would also like to say Matt Hardy. I'll get to why shortly. What I can't say is he's my runaway favorite. No discount to AJ, but I would throw Cody (Rhodes) out there before Styles. AJ was unanimously a spectacular talent, and everyone waited with baited breath to see if WWE would find a way to fuck him up and piss his talents away because he a) made a name for himself outside of their bubble and b) isn't 6'10", 300 lbs of juiced muscle. They instead, in a massive surprise, opted to not make him look like a joke jobber (this whole angle with "The Chinless Wonder" notwithstanding) from jump. It is a shame it took so long to actually *try* to establish some kind of fresher stars worth seeing in WWE instead of unilaterally deciding certain people don't work and shoving others down crowd's throats. It's a fresh surprise, but he basically did nothing but show up and not get covered in shit. Cody, on the other hand, had to prove he could "make it" WITHOUT WWE, and ended up going EVERYWHERE. He didn't sign with a particular rival promotion... he appeared in ALL OF THEM... BOLA, WCPW, TNA, ROH, and NJPW and possibly other stuff I'm omitting. I'd place him above AJ simply because while AJ just needed that "last piece of the puzzle" for "complete career" acknowledgement, Cody has only had that piece and is filling in the rest of the board with a widespread campaign that I feel is pretty important to how people can find their fortunes without having to completely rely on WWE or any other single promotion. He has become the quintisential "indy" wrestler- he goes wherever he wants for whatever he wants. He is flipping the whole "independent contractor" status on its side. I think this is an important story, but one that has been getting overshadowed by bigger short-term "loud noises" like TNA's litigation or the Goldberg win. Honorable mention goes to Bobby Roooooooooo.... (de). The guy I once called TNA's HHH now works for the actual HHH and is taking this "Glorious" business to the stratosphere of over-ness. It doesn't hurt that his song is kick-ass, and they didn't decide to change it because he was getting a face reaction to his song (Christian's original "At Last", anyone? Started getting cheers and they changed it up to sound more sinister. Still a cool song, but the original was like an ancestor to being "glorious"). Roode really doesn't belong in NXT, though, and had circumstances been slightly different, he probably would have made the main roster splash Styles made while this entire descriptive rant would have been about how AJ shouldn't be in NXT instead. Roode hasn't exactly been shit on, either, but he also could have been on a larger trajectory. However, the thing about Matt Hardy is he has garnered interest into wrestling AS A WHOLE on a level not seen since CM Punk's work/shoot on Cena and the company (and subsequent title walkout... and I refuse to call it a pipebomb, because he hadn't said that yet). He's resonated in a way that is similar (though not quite as large in pop culture scale) to "Austin 3:16", and did so from the ashes of what was doomed to be yet another run-of-the-mill tag-team breakup angle, and went on to overshadow quite a bit of goings-on in the wrestling world and dominate quite a bit of conversation. Think about that. He was a sad-sack in a suit that let his wife speak for him. Boring-ass world champion. And then, he 'snaps'. His character went crazy, and over something so inconsequential (getting mad because Jeff "selfishly" injured himself). The character devolving into his meta madness, and Jeff playing straight man until Matt "broke" him too. Then, throw in some of the most awesomely bad production values this side of Darkplace. Garnering massive attention and doing it bigger and better/worse. The camp evolved into its own thing. Copycats tried to crop up in-company (that whole Rosemary/Bram crap) and outside (New Day vs Wyatt Family). He evolved his character. He got his wife, toddler son, father-in-law, his home, his brother's lawn, a drone, and a boat over. He breathed new life into himself and his brother. And most importantly of all, he got people talking. People that love the product. People that hate the product. Pundits, "Smarks" like us, Bloggers, Youtubers, former writers, managers, personalities, wrestlers both current and of yesteryear from all over the world have an opinion about the "Broken Matt" business. Doesn't really matter "how many times" he has wrestled, STD, personally pre-taped or not... he's the one who has garnered the most sustained attention, interest, and conversation. He did the right thing at the right time and struck gold, knocked it out of the park, and did any other metaphor you can place there. TL;DR AJ is a spectacular talent (I intentionally didn't use the other word), and my personal leaning is toward Cody, but undoubtedly this year belongs to Matt. |
Great point on Cody. I guess the only thing from a personal point would be that ultimately, as exciting as it is to see Cody doing what he's doing, my interest is in a return to WWE.
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Matt Hardy because STD is a douche.
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MAtt Hardy
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Probably AJ Styles, with Kevin Owens or Chris Jericho coming up second.
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Gotta be AJ or Jericho.
AJ is still in his prime and obviously is a WAY better "worker" than Jericho, but Jericho managed to take his middling wrestling career which he essentially was just doing as a novelty and made himself relevant again, getting the terms "Stupid Idiot" and "...IT" over along with creating a list of Jericho, which is just fucking amazing in an era where it's really hard to get things to stick. I'm sure it'll get played out as all things in wrestling do (see: all things in wrestling) but for now it's a lot of fun. But I guess you really have to go with AJ because well, he's awesome and managed to break through the WWE wall, and shed himself of the TNA stench which could have ruined his career. He's yet to have a bad match. My boy CyNick's pick: Roman Reigns because he isn't a good guy, he isn't a bad guy, he is in fact THE GUY. |
Went with Hardy over Styles because to me Styles character has taken a hit. Yeah he's the WWE World Champion but I have been disappointed in how he portrays himself in WWE. Broken Matt Hardy has just been entertaining, seriously.
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Matt Hardy might be the only entertainment I've gotten out of wrestling all year. Could care less who had 5 star matches in the midst of boring, paint-by-numbers WWE storyline. Matt wins by a mile. The guy has been producing stuff in TNA in 2016 that will go down in wrestling history. Seems insane.
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Styles overall because of all the great things he did during the year.
Matt's Broken gimmick was easily the best character of the year though. |
Lol at people saying Matt Hardy. The answer is AJ Styles. Runner-up is Chris Jericho. No one is even close. I'm sure Kevin Owens is happy with his job and where he is, as is Charlotte and Alexa Bliss, but none of that really moves me. I actually think Randy Orton's SmackDown run might be up there. He seems effortlessly more comfortable than almost anyone else in the company.
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Matt Hardy - a guy literally working backyard matches as wrestler of the year.
The Internet Wrestling Community ladies and gentlemen! The correct answer is Roman Reigns or AJ Styles. Honorable mentions to Ambrose, Miz, and Jericho. |
I'll throw Charlotte in top three.
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I literally just thought of Charlotte too.
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Roman Reigns? The guy who bombed as the anointed top guy, got jobbed out clean, twice, to his former SHIELD buddies, failed a drug test and got suspended, and was dropped into the midcard upon return?
That's your wrestler of the year? |
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Was this years wrestlemania the biggest in history? I do not remember hearing that.
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From what I've seen this year I would have to go Styles.
As someone who mainly watches NXT due to being on The Network and time constraints I would like to mention Scott Dawson and Dash Wilder who have kept me entertained in every Revival match this year, their in-ring psychology is brilliant. |
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His first half was disastrous. They dropped the belt off him immediately after Rollins came back. Before the first half of the year was done. Not to mention you just said Styles had the better year. |
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Aj Styles-He killed it this year on the mic and in the ring. He has been a real sport with the Ellsworth stuff and despite what most people say I don't think it has hurt his credibility at all. Sasha Banks gets it from me because she has pretty much killed herself in every match and coming from the disaster of team B.A.D to putting on true classics is quite a leap. Honorable mentions: The Miz-do I even need to justify this one? I want him to keep the IC belt for as long as possible I care about Miz he has made the IC belt worth it again his stuff with DB has been off the charts and all they did was talk/yell at each other. His in-ring with Dolph was more than main-event worthy Maryse is legendary I could go on. Matt Hardy-I shouldve hated it but godamn if the wackyness and creativity of the man who was seen as the lesser Hardy didn't win me over. You are doing something right when WWE starts cribbing your notes. |
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I got CyNick's pick right, I'm proud of myself.
Slight tweaks on Roman Reigns would make that the right pick for next year. |
Billy Gunn would not be a reasonable suggestion for this thread though. There are certain objective metrics to use and AJ Styles is the correct answer. If Matt Hardy did your favorite work, then that's...that -- but you can't assert him honestly as Wrestler of the Year.
Sasha Banks has arguably lost standing with the company. She's had a great year personally, and I'm sure if you asked her she would say she is in love with her life, but she's basically been edged out of the title scene and it looks like she might be used to put over Nia Jax. I imagine she'll end up drafted to SmackDown next year and be revitalized there, but I just can't see her stock as being higher than it was this time last year. The correct answer is AJ Styles. CyNick's answers stick close to kayfabe, but you do have to consider critical opinion somewhat too. AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Charlotte and The Miz are a good "top four." |
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If someone asked me to pick the best TV to watch that involves wrestling, it would be the Hardys arc |
In alphabetical order:
• Cesaro • Jericho • Miz • Rusev • Styles One of those guys, but I can't decide who. I'll most likely reach a decision soon though, but at the moment, I'm leaning towards either Miz or Rusev. |
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And before you cite others on this board, keep in mind that less than 400,000 people actually watch Impact Wrestling. |
I don't give a shit about objectivity. Whatever of the year should be whatever people enjoyed the most and Matt Hardy was the wrestler I enjoyed watching the most.
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This isn't wide spread popular opinion Wrestler of the Year though. This is TPWW Rollermacka Wrestler of the Year (In Your Opinion).
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Game of the year is Final Fantasy XV and that has so many flaws it may as well have leprosy, but it's the game I enjoyed the most.
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Nothing WWE did this year was groundbreaking or entertaining. Again, whether AJ Styles was putting on 5 star matches or duds on a weekly basis it wouldn't matter because the story and build surrounding what he's done sucks because WWE has phoned it it for years now.
Broken Matt Hardy wins. |
Oh, Jesus. CyNick has attempted to troll this thread, too. RESISSSSSST!!!!!
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"I don't give a fuck about objectivity" says a lot about the direction a lot of wrestling fans are going. :( |
CyNick sheep,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Mr. Hardy should invite Brother Neal to the Hardy Compound to decide the Wrestler of the Year.
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It's just not that funny or entertaining. The novelty wore off and they just have 15 year old jokes about Triple H burying people even though he created the Performance Center and all of the great people called up are because of him.
They should do all of their events in the Hardy Compound to further show the dwindling fan base. It was way too long and nothing happened. NOTHING. |
Doesn't mean Hasney didn't enjoy it and feels that Matt Hardy was the wrestler of the year
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A dude was fired out of an active volcano. "NOTHING happened".
Rock and Roll Express was probably the best use of old wrestlers this year too. |
To be fair, if it was Raw, being fired from an active volcano would probably be a "kick out at 2" move.
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You could make a strong case for the New Day as a whole
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Charlotte/Sasha program in particular helped raise the bar, but this has been something slowly set in motion since AJ Lee was the queen without a kingdom. |
AJ by a mile, despite booking him as shit he still managed to get over.... Honourable mentions to Owens, Jericho & Matt
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Mike Trout won the MVP this year and I doubt the Angels has more then 5 national wide televised games.
To say someone can't be the wrestler of the year because of the promotion they work for is ridiculous. It's actually more impressive that most people didn't each but everyone that did basically puts him as the best. |
BRAUN! he's the rassler of the year. He's no vanilla midget. He will be the superstar of the future. A technical legend.
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Handbag
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Purse
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Shoes because they've been drinking and now their feet hurt
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Gently cradling my balls
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A baby
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Their little phones
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Lipstick
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Coffee
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Roman Reigns, easily.
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Pentagon Jr.
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I guess i'm going to go a different way here. I would say AJ, but I think i'm going with Sasha Banks. And maybe even Co- WOTF Sasha and Charlotte.
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But seriously his comeuppance was pretty awesome.
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Vader.
He, in the warning days of his life, used Twitter in a way it SHOULD have been used from the onset. In the process, he made folks who have never heard of the little British boy and the other guy care about them. Ricochet vs. Ospreay would have eventually been seen now, but wouldn't have had the buzz it has had it not been for a crotchety old timer. And in his use of Twitter, he not only made folks care about Ospreay, he booked himself a payday. In 2016. And it drew. That is why I put Vader in as Wrestler of the Year. |
I'll elaborate on my Matt Hardy choice.
Let's look at Matt compared to AJ, where were both of them a year ago? In late 2015, AJ was on top in NJPW, he was a fixture at ROH and was one of the main guys in the Bullet Club (the top stable outside of the WWE). On the other hand Matt Hardy was a semi-main eventer in TNA. He'd had some moderate success there in the tag division and realistically, the only reason he became Heavyweight Champion there was because Jeff was injured and a "Hardy" was gonna walk out of BFG with the title because they were in North Carolina. So this year, yes AJ has had a ton of success. He made a huge debut at the Royal Rumble, had great feuds as a heel and face and is one of the main eventers in the largest promotion in the world. On the other hand, NOBODY saw at the beginning of 2016, that Matt Hardy would be one of the most talked about wrestlers this year. He's completely reinvented himself, arguably surpassed his brother as the "better Hardy brother", and like I said, he's gotten more wrestling fans to talk about TNA, that they have in years. People chant DELETE on RAW and Smackdown, people are actually watching TNA So I guess the argument would come down to, AJ was already a star and then became a top guy in the one place he hadn't been yet. On the other hand, Matt had always been "the other Hardy brother", and he is now one of the biggest wrestlers in professional wrestling today. I gotta give it to Matt |
Nice reasoning, but it doesn't hold up for me.
It is simply surreal how well AJ Styles has fit into the WWE. I've always had faith in him, because he's always had that "Tony Hawk" charisma. That seems like a very dated reference, but he's got that "what he does is really cool" thing about his ring work. But to see him come in, with his own name, essentially maintain his entire gimmick and presentation, steal the spotlight constantly and knock it out of the park in the ring and on the mic, allegedly making a huge fan out of Vince McMahon is absolutely incredible stuff. AJ Styles is the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. His name is now on the same list as Bruno Sammartino, Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin and The Rock. Not only that, he has held it for over 100 days. The James Ellsworth stuff was dumb, but that looks to be over now. Plus, he's got guys like Jim Ross saying that they haven't seen someone this good since Shawn Michaels, and I actually agree. He's synthesized the in-ring demands of New Japan with the sports entertainment shtickery of TNA and become the most consistent deliverer in professional wrestling. Matt Hardy is being talked about like Chyna got talked about for going into porn. Lena Dunham said something that has gotten her loads of media attention again -- but she hasn't "surpassed" anybody. I really don't think you can ironically be the best wrestler in the world -- otherwise James Ellsworth would take it over Matt Hardy. Bubba Ray Dudley was a bigger deal, statistically, than Matt Hardy is right now. Was Bully Ray ever truly the wrestler of the year? He was a big fish in a tiny, tiny pond that managed to reinvent himself because if he didn't he'd be worthless. And, to his credit, he did reinvent himself quite well -- getting himself into tremendous shape and being pretty damn good on the mic. Put him back in the WWE and he's just Bubba Ray Dudley though -- but still infinitely more well known than Bully Ray. I used to be a Matt Hardy mark, but this talk about him being "better" than Jeff right now is pretty silly. If Jeff Hardy decided he was bored of being paid to phone it in and he wanted another run on top, he could phone Vince and say "Hey boss, want me to sell you some more merch." Vince would have him back in a heartbeat. Hell, if he returned tomorrow they'd probably give him the Royal Rumble and put him against Kevin Owens at WrestleMania and give him his first Mania win. Matt Hardy would be forgotten in a week. You can notoriety and infamy by fucking a dog on RedTube, but you're not going to win Adult Film Star of the Year. Stop this talk about Matt Hardy being great. He's doing backyard wrestling with the illusion of camp (but it's not even authentically that, because it's intentionally bad), and when you all get sick of it, everyone -- every single person will change their tone to "Yeah, he needs stop this" and will look back on this and feel a little silly, with the most positive thing being said being "Ha, well, I liked it at the time because it was different," but secretly everyone will know what a steaming pile of shit it was. Oh, and if TNA went under and Vince McMahon called and said he wants mid-card Matt back again, Matt Hardy would change his hair back so fucking fast it'd break all your hearts. But Vince is more likely to want Jeff and let Matt Hardy keep doing his bullshit in CHIKARA or something, until Jeff burns out on top and they decide they want to do a Hardys thing because there's more money in Jeff with Matt or Jeff on his own than Matt on his own and everybody knows it. |
Saying what Matt Hardy has done is the same as fucking an animal on Redtube is completely disrespectful to him and anyone who is a professional wrestler. 20 + year veterans including guys the caliber of Lance Storm and Chris Jericho have praised Matt for his "broken" gimmick... I didn't see them doing the same for China doing porn so you're analogies make no sense.
As far as AJ goes, you said it yourself, he was already a star. He was a star in TNA, he was a star in ROH, he was a star in NJPW, and it's not surprising to see him become a star in the WWE. Matt Hardy literally went from mediocrity to one of the most watched professional wrestlers of 2016. If it was "so easy" to do what he's done.... why hasn't anyone else done it with his success? As far as "he'll drop everything and go back to WWE", until he does that, you can't say that he would. I personally know what he makes per indie show, and obviously he's not hurting for money now. It's not everybodies dream to go to the WWE, or in other cases, go back to the WWE. |
Matt Hardy is the one completely disrespecting himself with this horseshit. It is bad and it is supposed to be bad -- that is one of the chief defenses I hear of it. If it is supposed to be bad, why is it disrespectful to say it is bad? Matt Hardy is doing bad work now. It's just getting over with geeks who seem to have a more prominent voice because we are the only people who still watch wrestling because this is what it churns out.
This whole "AJ is a star" thing is completely backwards. Yes, he worked in TNA and New Japan, but the difference between even New Japan and WWE is immense. I think there were some numbers that came out that said that New Japan was about 1/5 the size of WWE. You don't work down to WWE. Matt Hardy has been in the WWE before. He has been at WrestleMania. He has been a major merchandise mover and worked in the ring with the likes of The Undertaker and Stone Cold Steve Austin. He is now a star? Because he manages to get 40,000 more people to watch TNA than usually do by putting on a freak show that no one has seen before? And that is exactly my point about Matt Hardy -- he is making enough money to sustain his "creative freedom" on the independent scene for the moment. He's working everybody and raking in the cash for fucking around. Hey, in that sense maybe he is a good professional wrestler? But when people suddenly go "Eh, I'm over this" and they stop forking over the money until Matt Hardy tries to be genuinely good again, why wouldn't he take the huge sack of cash from Vince McMahon? You can't say the dude is not motivated by the money and then cite money as a reason that he wouldn't go back. |
AJ Styles stock has jumped TREMENDOUSLY. Matt Hardy is doing high school theater for a promotion that has lost so much ground it needs to stand on one leg to stay dry. I don't see how this is even a discussion.
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I am actually thinking about dropping Lance Storm's podcast from my listening because the latest episode seems to be one where he praises this shit. But I am also curious to hear what he says about it, since he is usually spot on about things. I think Jericho would just go to bat for it because he backs the boys and is probably happy that Matt gets to fuck around and make money. Pure speculation though. Maybe Jericho does sincerely think it is brilliant that Matt drinks magic poison and stuff. I'm not going to let it shatter my Jericho fandom though. I'll keep it in a separate compartment like Austin's domestic violence accusations.
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Aren't James Storm, Bram (dude needs a last name) and Eddie Kingston part of some new faction? If they got Broken Matt and beat him within an inch of his life, unzipped their pants, pissed on him, shat in his mouth and ate Maxell, then there MIGHT be some hope for all of this. Jeff Hardy can snap out of his stupid gimmick and be all "We were trying to have fun an entertain our fans but these guys have ruined that" and go to war with them.
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I didn't really like him that much, but I'm not going to tell people they're wrong for liking him better than anyone else. |
Tough choice for me, but I'm going with Jericho. He's been fantastic in everything he's done this year.
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"Wrestler of the Year" implies quality and not just what you've enjoyed. Film of the Year isn't your favorite porno, even though you blew a load to it and didn't the latest Oscar bait.
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Irrelevant comparison. If people enjoyed it, it had good qualities to them. This isn't an official awards thread, it's a matter of opinion. Whether you or I agree with it or not doesn't really matter. Objectivity doesn't really matter. A lot of people answered the question with the wrestler who entertained them the most, and in this context that's not a wrong answer.
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This is a discussion of semantics. I think Wrestler of the Year does demand a bit of objectivity and honest critique. I'll show myself out.
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It isn't about semantics, though. You're coming into an opinion thread and telling people they're wrong for making a different choice than you.
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We're discussing what "Wrestler of the Year" means. That's semantics.
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