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Ruien 01-09-2017 08:57 PM

Hey Cynick
 
Why did Seth Rollins stop doing his amazing laugh?

Destor 01-09-2017 09:10 PM

Not sure why this exists but im going to allow it

Ruien 01-09-2017 09:15 PM

Because this is a very important question.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-10-2017 12:23 AM

I think Rita Repulsa must have sued.

Wishbone 01-10-2017 01:14 AM

CyNick Response: Because Vince McMahon said so, and anything Vince says is law and/or the literal word of god. Now excuse me while I finish fellating Kevin Dunn and the creative team in a massive orgy that's sure to get amazing ratings within the 18-35 demographic.

Real Response: Likely because it works for a chickenshit heel who's supposed to piss people off, but would almost certainly be counter productive for a face who's trying to win people over.

Sepholio 01-10-2017 01:22 AM

You done fucked up now ruien. If Fan and Noid get as mad as they do over people posting to Cynick then how do you think they'll react to making a whole damn thread directed at him? I fear for you.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 01:44 AM

RUIEN DON'T YOU SEE WHAT YR DOING

mike adamle 01-10-2017 09:08 AM

GUYS....

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 09:26 AM

guys....

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 09:54 AM

Totally legit question. I approve.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:02 AM

Fan, you're playing into his hands. JUST STOP

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 10:06 AM

Once we get an answer to the question surely there will be nothing more to talk about and this thread will die without incident. Ruien knows what he's doing.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:08 AM

NO.... STOP

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:08 AM

LET GOD HAVE MERCY ON OUR SOULS

Sepholio 01-10-2017 10:10 AM

Fan with the double dog reverse troll. Impressive.

Bad News Gertner 01-10-2017 10:11 AM

Cynick is the goods

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:12 AM

we'll argue with the CyNick if he responds thus imploding the very foundation in which this entire world is built upon. DON'T YEW UNDERSTAND

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 10:14 AM

This odd, totally uncharacteristic spazz out by Dale Newstead may be the only notable thing to come from this thread when all is said and done.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:15 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:16 AM

What are you talking about fan. I'm as even keel as they come. HOW DARE YOU :rant:

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:17 AM

this odd, uncharacteristic instance of fan being a dingus may be the only notable thing to come from this thread when all is said and done.

Sepholio 01-10-2017 10:17 AM

I don't know how but he damn sure dared.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:17 AM

:lol: score one for the Newsteadinator

Sepholio 01-10-2017 10:18 AM

Imagine when it's revealed that fan is cynick.

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4911983)
What are you talking about fan. I'm as even keel as they come. HOW DARE YOU :rant:

Are you telling me I'm wrong? I'd be fuming if I weren't so even keeled.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:22 AM

I ought to club you in the head and eat your bones for questioning my even keelness.

Big Vic 01-10-2017 10:24 AM

Ruien calls out Cynick which leads to a match between #1wf and Dale.
WCW/TNA/RAW booking at it's finest.

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 10:24 AM

If we take this to a second page and Ruien's question gets lost in the shuffle, he's not gonna be very happy.

Sepholio 01-10-2017 10:26 AM

There is still time for cynick to be the special guest referee. Be interesting to see if fan can keep his tpww real fights record intact with the deck stacked against him.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:26 AM

That sounds like a challenge to me.

Where's my homey normansmiley when I need him?

Sepholio 01-10-2017 10:26 AM

Don't make me dodecapost and ensure page 2 shenanigans occur.

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 10:29 AM

lol normansmiley's never gonna show his face here again. Pretty sure the shame of running from our fight sent him into a downward spiral and he is homeless or dead right now.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:31 AM

lmfao

What was the deal with that? I thought it was all fun and games but that dude had a screw loose so I'm not sure.

Sepholio 01-10-2017 10:32 AM

What if he's stuck in some kind of limbo for dead homeless guys? He can't pass on properly until his spirit returns to take care of his unfinished business with you fan. That's why he has returned and his spirit lurks deep within cynick and he is seeking his comeuppance. Bewaaaaaaarrrreeee.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 10:33 AM

last i heard he did an interview on talk is jericho

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4912005)
What if he's stuck in some kind of limbo for dead homeless guys? He can't pass on properly until his spirit returns to take care of his unfinished business with you fan. That's why he has returned and his spirit lurks deep within cynick and he is seeking his comeuppance. Bewaaaaaaarrrreeee.

... Holy shit. Mind blown.

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 10:46 AM

Now that Seph has made me realize that CyNick is definitely possessed with the spirit of norman smiley I'm gonna have to take a completely new approach to this issue.

Sepholio 01-10-2017 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4912010)
Now that Seph has made me realize that CyNick is definitely possessed with the spirit of norman smiley I'm gonna have to take a completely new approach to this issue.

Norman smiley don't fear the reaper. This is going to take some special hoodoo witchery on your part. I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 12:15 PM

#tpwwrealfights

Evil Vito 01-10-2017 12:31 PM

What if TheCyNick was actually Tony Romo?

Sepholio 01-10-2017 01:17 PM

That means norman smiley is Tony romo! Shocker to start page 2!

Ruien 01-10-2017 02:17 PM

I bet Destor is happy he kept this open now.

#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 02:19 PM

norman smiley is NOT Tony Romo. Let's not get ridiculous here.

The CyNick 01-10-2017 02:27 PM

I wish I had something profound to say, but I assumed it was just part of the evolution of his character to Babyface.

But I could try to find out.

We did just use this thread as a general education thread. If people want to sit under my tree of knowledge on various subjects. Would probably end up being a very highly rated thread.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 02:33 PM

Much maligned CyNick Opinions thread #2.

Pretty good B Show material. You keep up the good work CyNick, you're hitting B+ show material. Nothing more though, you just don't have the long term potential of an A show.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 02:35 PM

What are your thoughts on Vince McMahon's involvements in the Jimmy Snuka murder cold case that has now been dismissed due to Snuka's mental state?

Big Vic 01-10-2017 03:35 PM

Was the HHH vs Seth angle hot-shotted too early?

Bad News Gertner 01-10-2017 04:16 PM

Come everyone. Let's sit under the learning tree.

The CyNick 01-10-2017 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4912082)
Much maligned CyNick Opinions thread #2.

Pretty good B Show material. You keep up the good work CyNick, you're hitting B+ show material. Nothing more though, you just don't have the long term potential of an A show.

Dale, dont come into my site like youre the boss!

The CyNick 01-10-2017 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 4912084)
What are your thoughts on Vince McMahon's involvements in the Jimmy Snuka murder cold case that has now been dismissed due to Snuka's mental state?

Vince beats the Federal Government a second time. His legend grows.

My understanding is Snuka was cleared of any wrongdoing, thats good enough for me.

The CyNick 01-10-2017 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4912096)
Was the HHH vs Seth angle hot-shotted too early?

The perfect time would have been at Mania 32 where it looked like things were headed. Unfortunately the talent got hurt, so WWE had to scramble and ended creating a really fun angle between HHH and Reigns instead.

IMO the Rollins thing has come off forced right now, but I guess they figure, they want Rollins to get the rub from working with Hunter on the main stage. Plus, it brings The Shield relationship full circle. Rollins dumped The Shield to go with Hunter, now they will stand brothers in arms once again against Hunter and The Authority. Both Reigns and Rollins are minted main eventers, thanks in large part to Hunter. Very good story telling IMO.

Simple Fan 01-10-2017 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4912162)
The perfect time would have been at Mania 32 where it looked like things were headed. Unfortunately the talent got hurt, so WWE had to scramble and ended creating a really fun angle between HHH and Reigns instead.

IMO the Rollins thing has come off forced right now, but I guess they figure, they want Rollins to get the rub from working with Hunter on the main stage. Plus, it brings The Shield relationship full circle. Rollins dumped The Shield to go with Hunter, now they will stand brothers in arms once again against Hunter and The Authority. Both Reigns and Rollins are minted main eventers, thanks in large part to Hunter. Very good story telling IMO.


#1-norm-fan 01-10-2017 07:46 PM

BE GONE, NORMAN! THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU!

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4912159)
Vince beats the Federal Government a second time. His legend grows.

My understanding is Snuka was cleared of any wrongdoing, thats good enough for me.

nope. Couldn't be tried because he wasn't in mental condition to be tried.

Destor 01-10-2017 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4912074)
I bet Destor is happy he kept this open now.

I really am, this is what tpww should look like

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-10-2017 08:18 PM

truer words never spoken

BigCrippyZ 01-10-2017 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4912159)
Vince beats the Federal Government a second time. His legend grows.

My understanding is Snuka was cleared of any wrongdoing, thats good enough for me.

Wrong again, you dumb fuck. Snuka was deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial. Vince wasn't even involved as a party in this trial. Swing and a miss.

You truly are as uninformed and stupid as you come across.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-11-2017 12:01 AM

Vince was on site at the police station the day it went down. He could/would have probably been called as a witness.

BigCrippyZ 01-11-2017 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4912419)
Vince was on site at the police station the day it went down. He could/would have probably been called as a witness.

Yes, but he's not a party to the trial because he's not a defendant or plaintiff (i.e., the prosecutor in this criminal case). Being a witness is not the same as being a party, but a party can obviously also be a witness.

KIRA 01-11-2017 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4912162)
The perfect time would have been at Mania 32 where it looked like things were headed. Unfortunately the talent got hurt, so WWE had to scramble and ended creating a really fun angle between HHH and Reigns instead.

IMO the Rollins thing has come off forced right now, but I guess they figure, they want Rollins to get the rub from working with Hunter on the main stage. Plus, it brings The Shield relationship full circle. Rollins dumped The Shield to go with Hunter, now they will stand brothers in arms once again against Hunter and The Authority. Both Reigns and Rollins are minted main eventers, thanks in large part to Hunter. Very good story telling IMO.

LMAO Jesus fucking Christ :lol:

Remember folks, CyNick will be appearing at the Chuckle Hut all week!

The CyNick 01-11-2017 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4912410)
Wrong again, you dumb fuck. Snuka was deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial. Vince wasn't even involved as a party in this trial. Swing and a miss.

You truly are as uninformed and stupid as you come across.

Ooof

The CyNick 01-11-2017 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 4912429)
LMAO Jesus fucking Christ :lol:

Remember folks, CyNick will be appearing at the Chuckle Hut all week!

I haven't done a set in years.

The CyNick 01-11-2017 10:24 PM

The overall story has played out well, even given the hardships WWE had to deal with.

I just think they have done this start and stop thing with Rollins and Hunter, which has hurt a little, but like I said, all of it was because of injuries.

RP 01-11-2017 10:45 PM

What rub is HHH possibly giving when he has not wrestled in a long time. It's not like he's red hot and dominating. He would basically becoming to wrestlemania, taking his suit off and taking a pin. That's not a huge rub at all. If he was coming in after beating i dunno, Jericho in a program or someone along those lines, then maybe i can get it, but him just taking a suit off and wrestling at WrestleMania is not a rub for anyone.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-11-2017 10:50 PM

They want for Triple H to be in a match to be like the Undertaker. It failed against Roman Reigns but people like Seth. It could work.

Daniel Bryan WORKED.
Sting WORKED? It was a called fun and a very talked about match.
Roman Reigns FAILED.
Seth Rollins ????

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-12-2017 01:05 AM

Nicky, do you think Vince could successfully release his own brand of viagra. Maybe not exactly viagra but perhaps his own brand. Maybe call it "genetic Jackhammer"? THink it'd be successful?

The CyNick 01-12-2017 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4912760)
They want for Triple H to be in a match to be like the Undertaker. It failed against Roman Reigns but people like Seth. It could work.

Daniel Bryan WORKED.
Sting WORKED? It was a called fun and a very talked about match.
Roman Reigns FAILED.
Seth Rollins ????

Curious. By what measure do you think Reigns v HHH failed? It was the most watched Mania of all time.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-12-2017 06:42 PM

Sting and Bryan were already over. They didn't need Triple H to elevate their status. The Bryan match made tyre most sense.

The Rollins one is gonna be forced as fuck. Yes they were teasing tension prior to Rollins injury but the turn on Rollins came outta nowhere and was then dropped for months.

I feel like Rollins should be getting a coronation this Mania as he has a better story to build up but apparently that ain't gonna be the case

Damian Rey 2.0 01-12-2017 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4913052)
Curious. By what measure do you think Reigns v HHH failed? It was the most watched Mania of all time.

Probably because as a face Reigns has failed to connect. Now I'm sure you'll cite garnering the biggest reactions as a success, but they clearly do not want him to be booed. They've tried their damndest, at least before Mania, to get him over as a face for 2 years. They've had him plow they every viable heel, other than Lesnar, that they could have and he's still being rejected despite them still presenting him as the top babyface.

That's probably why, and its a fair point. Cena was not rejected this way. Not at first. His first few years as the groomed babyface went over well. Wasn't until sometime on the backend of 05 that it started to turn on him. Roman has been rejected since day one.

Mania sells itself. The fact that a roster as depleted as it was for last year still became the most watched Mania just sells that point. Who main events isn't as important as it used to be, and that's a credit to Vince building his brand recognition to essentially sell itself.

I think people may also think Reigns has failed due his character not progressing. I haven't watched since his mania win, but has his character changed in any way? Based on what I've read he's still being pushed as a mega face going over heel talent left and right, and is still the main event.

Mr. Nerfect 01-12-2017 08:53 PM

Triple H could actually be more over if he stepped out of active competition. People eat the NXT shtick up. The character should have died after Daniel Bryan beat him.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-12-2017 09:15 PM

Agree

Mr. Nerfect 01-12-2017 09:22 PM

NXT Babyface Triple H vs. Out of Line Heel Samoa Joe would be a great program.

The CyNick 01-12-2017 10:35 PM

Some people don't get that the Hunter in WWE is a character. The guy who kicks off NXT and tweets with the NXT talent when they achieved something is more or less Paul.

The same people who don't get that are the same people who can't comprehend why Stephanie acts like a bitch in character and at the same timeis widely recognized as a sweet person in real life, such as tweeting about speaking at conferences to empower young women, helping out sick kids, and working out at midnight to promote healthy living.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-12-2017 10:38 PM

I don't think anyone is confused at all.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-12-2017 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4913052)
Curious. By what measure do you think Reigns v HHH failed? It was the most watched Mania of all time.

We didn't go to see that match and everybody booed every time Reigns did a move. They had to turn up his music to bullshit levels to have us be drowned out.

FAIL.

It was also the WM with the least amount of people watching when Ryback and Kalisto fought for the us strap.

The CyNick 01-12-2017 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4913055)
Probably because as a face Reigns has failed to connect. Now I'm sure you'll cite garnering the biggest reactions as a success, but they clearly do not want him to be booed. They've tried their damndest, at least before Mania, to get him over as a face for 2 years. They've had him plow they every viable heel, other than Lesnar, that they could have and he's still being rejected despite them still presenting him as the top babyface.

That's probably why, and its a fair point. Cena was not rejected this way. Not at first. His first few years as the groomed babyface went over well. Wasn't until sometime on the backend of 05 that it started to turn on him. Roman has been rejected since day one.

Mania sells itself. The fact that a roster as depleted as it was for last year still became the most watched Mania just sells that point. Who main events isn't as important as it used to be, and that's a credit to Vince building his brand recognition to essentially sell itself.

I think people may also think Reigns has failed due his character not progressing. I haven't watched since his mania win, but has his character changed in any way? Based on what I've read he's still being pushed as a mega face going over heel talent left and right, and is still the main event.

You say clearly they want him to be cheered. How do you know that? Would you be shocked to hear that internally they are more than happy with Roman's reactions? Do you think John Cena cares that 15% of the audience boos him? He sells merch, he makes bank, he's happy. Why wouldn't you copy that formula with Roman?

The CyNick 01-12-2017 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4913152)
We didn't go to see that match and everybody booed every time Reigns did a move. They had to turn up his music to bullshit levels to have us be drowned out.

FAIL.

It was also the WM with the least amount of people watching when Ryback and Kalisto fought for the us strap.

What are you on about with Kalisto and Ryback? How is this related to Roman?

You were at the audio table to know how loud the music was? Watch RAW any week, tell me who gets a bigger reaction than Reigns?

Damian Rey 2.0 01-12-2017 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4913153)
You say clearly they want him to be cheered. How do you know that? Would you be shocked to hear that internally they are more than happy with Roman's reactions? Do you think John Cena cares that 15% of the audience boos him? He sells merch, he makes bank, he's happy. Why wouldn't you copy that formula with Roman?

Why have a superman like character go so dominant over heels if the goal is to have a reaction be something other than a boo? It would be different if Reigns was feuding with clear cut babyfaces and beating them but kept cutting face promos and working from underneath, like a face. He wasn't doing that last I saw, and gave no response if his character direction has changed. Based on show results and people commentating here, it appears nothing has changed with how they're handling him.

Of course they didn't care if Cena was getting negative reactions, he was moving merchandise hand over fist. Is Reigns moving that significant amount of goods? Do you have reports or numbers to suggest he is? Because unless he is, you cannot compare him to Cena, who was moving merchandise well before he became the man.

15% of the audience, last I watched and based on what people say when asked here and others I know that still watch, is not the amount of audience he's being booed by. Going into to Mania 31 and every Raw and network ppv I watched thru Mania 32 had him getting booed without mercy by the majority of the arena.

Last but not least, Reigns is not Cena. And he's not even close. Reigns was protected and to a great extent hidden in the SHEILD why he developed. Cena was and has always been a singles competitor only. He's miles ahead of Roman as a talker, has far more natural charisma and is better now and was better in his early days around 2003 as a worker than Roman is now.

Granted, Cena was actually given time to develop. He got to find his own footing on the B show and once they gave him room to breath he took off. Roman has not been given that chance. But I personally don't think it matters. At the same stage in their careers, Cena was the superior talent and still think he's the superior talent now.

I think they've tried to manufacture Roman's stardom and its not going over well. He's over in a sense that fans love too boo the shit out of him even though he's presented as an unstoppable super hero.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-12-2017 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4913157)
What are you on about with Kalisto and Ryback? How is this related to Roman?

You were at the audio table to know how loud the music was? Watch RAW any week, tell me who gets a bigger reaction than Reigns?

Nobody is arguing the level of reaction he gets. The question is this the reaction they are shooting for. Consider how they book him my opinion would be no.

The CyNick 01-12-2017 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4913180)
Nobody is arguing the level of reaction he gets. The question is this the reaction they are shooting for. Consider how they book him my opinion would be no.

They book Cena the same way as they know he will get booed, and booed more heavily in certain towns.

The funny thing is in the town's he gets the most boos, he sells the most merch. Roman likely isn't at Cena's level for merch, but he's probably next on the list. If Roman's merch money stars going with, then the WWE may think it's time to turn him heel.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-12-2017 11:12 PM

But Roman Reigns is not John Cena. By a country mile.

Simple Fan 01-12-2017 11:21 PM

Exactly, they have copied that formula with Reigns but it's not been as successful which is what everyone is saying. That 15% you say boo Cena is more like 50% when talking about Reigns.

The thing about Cena is he can get on the microphone and change some of them boos to cheers where as Reigns simply can't do that. Although people may hate Cena they do respect his hustle and loyalty. That is the Cena formula right? Roman hasn't showed any loyalty to the fans by getting suspended earlier this year, fail. Can't keep up with the hustle without using something, fail. It's not a knock on him he can use what ever he wants for all I care but the guy is just not John Cena and it's dumb to even try. Cena also had his own progression into that spot and Reigns was forced into a spot he wasn't ready for and fans rejected him.

Simple Fan 01-12-2017 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4913157)
What are you on about with Kalisto and Ryback? How is this related to Roman?

You were at the audio table to know how loud the music was? Watch RAW any week, tell me who gets a bigger reaction than Reigns?

Chris Jericho every week.

Mr. Nerfect 01-13-2017 02:01 AM

Reigns is not a babyface. He's a natural heel. People will ironically start to cheer him when he clicks into that more natural alignment. It will just feel a lot more...together with him.

Mr. Nerfect 01-13-2017 02:01 AM

While I've got no interest in Reigns vs. Taker, if Reigns destroys Undertaker at WrestleMania, he will be set up to be that heel star. It's all for naught if they keep trying to jam him down people's throats as a superhero though.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-13-2017 02:20 AM

When you look back at the previous era's stars, they all cut their teeth as heels and then made the huge turn. Hogan, Michaels, Austin/Rock, Cena.

Guys like Jericho, Punk, Bret Hart, Randy Savage, etc also got established as heels before turning. Rarely is there a Steamboat or Mysterio type where they're just natural babyfaces.

Reigns turning heel could go long way.

Maluco 01-13-2017 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4913343)
Reigns is not a babyface. He's a natural heel. People will ironically start to cheer him when he clicks into that more natural alignment. It will just feel a lot more...together with him.

He really is. Anytime I watch, his mannerisms are so heelish. He has those arrogant little smirks and dismissive interviews. I don't understand why they don't just embrace it totally.

Him going into Mania as a cocky young heel, looking to take out a face Goldberg who is stealing his spotlight is interesting to me.

Nothing he does at the moment is interesting and he is incredibly hard to like as a face.

He is not John Cena, so why not play to his strengths if you want him to be a big player in the future?

Right now it is a square peg in a round hole.

The CyNick 01-13-2017 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4913349)
When you look back at the previous era's stars, they all cut their teeth as heels and then made the huge turn. Hogan, Michaels, Austin/Rock, Cena.

Guys like Jericho, Punk, Bret Hart, Randy Savage, etc also got established as heels before turning. Rarely is there a Steamboat or Mysterio type where they're just natural babyfaces.

Reigns turning heel could go long way.

I'm not against a Reigns heel turn, but I trust WWE knows what's best based on internal metrics that they have access to. If Reigns is the #1 merch seller outside Cena, that tells you it's not time to turn him.

People have been saying for years that they should turn Cena, but WWE never did it, because the numbers are clear that more paying customers like Cena than hate him. I feel the same is true with Reigns, just maybe not to the same level of Cena.

And at the end of the day it sounds like WWE has done a great job making some fans salivate at the thought of Reigns turning heel. Point is, one way or the other, people care about Roman Reigns. That means WWE has done their job.

Evil Vito 01-13-2017 11:03 AM

CyNick - not to say you support people losing their jobs, but if you had no choice but to release 5 wrestlers from the main roster, who would be on the chopping block?

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-13-2017 11:24 AM

Roman's not ready to take the Reigns. that is this brilliant motherfucker's hot take.

Awesome performer though but he's been rushed to the top.

I mean I know it's hard to believe a company can make a mistake, but I do believe they've made a mistake forcing Reigns down everyone's throats.

#1-norm-fan 01-13-2017 11:28 AM

BE GONE NORMAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!!!

http://nhne-pulse.org/wp-content/upl...1/exorcism.jpg

OUT!

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-13-2017 11:38 AM

BOOOOOOO gtfo of CyNick's thread!

If you want, we can make a thread where you can be a big dumb asshead. OH WAIT THAT'S EVERY THREAD :lol:

#1-norm-fan 01-13-2017 11:43 AM

Spazzzzzz

#1-norm-fan 01-13-2017 11:45 AM

"Waaah! Don't disagree with people! Waaaaaah!"

That's you. That's what you sound like.

Now shut up while I try to exorcise Norman Smiley's soul out of this motherfucker, you little whiny bitch. I'll work on exorcising the 13 year old girl out of you later.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-13-2017 12:10 PM

I was actually joking with you. Perhaps it is you who is the 13 year old girl, taking it so personally ;)

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-13-2017 12:12 PM

and I feel like we have very different definitions of spazz.

#1-norm-fan 01-13-2017 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RP (Post 4911411)
Here's an idea. Make Lesnar wrestle a RAW once in a while!

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4911412)
Special attraction wrestles every week on TV and is no longer special. Complainers gonna complain.

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4911417)
You have the worst comprehension ever. He said nothing about Leaner wrestling every week.

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4911427)
What a geek.

The "Get called out on a strawman so clearly that you can't even bullshit a response so you have to just throw a completely random, nonsensical insult out of nowhere to try to save face" tactic is definitely a norman smiley move. This theory is strong.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/131...ly-water-o.gif

OUT!

Destor 01-13-2017 12:35 PM

Everyone saying Reigns not getting a traidional pop means he should be shot down the card doesnt get it. TImes have changed. The curtain is back and faces and heels are done. In the traditional sense. At least at the top. The buisiness of the business is the work now.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-13-2017 12:38 PM

which is a giant problem in itself.

Damian Rey 2.0 01-13-2017 01:25 PM

I don't think he should be shot down the card. I l think they should change directions and start booking him according to the reaction he gets. He could be the top heel in the company right now


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