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#BROKEN Hasney 03-01-2017 06:06 PM
Jack Swagger Leaves WWE
 
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Simple Fan 03-01-2017 06:10 PM
Seems about right. Hadn't done anything since moving to SD. I don't think Impact Wrestling has the money to do a "What is( superstars non copyright name) doing in the Impact Zone" joke.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-01-2017 06:19 PM
he'll make some cash on the Indy's. It'll do him good. Maybe a run in Japan? He's a good worker, just got fucked over by the machine.

Emperor Smeat 03-01-2017 06:24 PM
Not surprised considering the WWE simply refused to use him on Smackdown even though that brand could use more wrestlers for depth reasons. Even worse when they didn't even bother to consider him as battle royale material.

Maluco 03-01-2017 06:39 PM
I feel like he has wasted so much time there, so many years.

Could have done what Cody is doing now much earlier and got himself out of the rut he was in.

I actually really like "we the people" Swagger and his run. The only person he can blame is himself as to why that didn't work out.

DAMN iNATOR 03-01-2017 07:16 PM
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Cool King 03-01-2017 07:52 PM
Damn, it sucks to see him go but at the same time, I'm glad he's left. He so much better than what the WWE thought he was worth.

To be honest, I completely forgot that he was on the SmackDown roster until just now.

I see him doing well overseas, especially in the UK.

I wish him well.

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2017 08:01 PM
Damn. He's gonna be a huge signing for someone. The man is a former world champion! How many people can say that!?!

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2017 08:02 PM
Oh. After some research, it appears the answer is "a fuckton". Nevermind.

Sepholio 03-01-2017 08:03 PM
Weed the people will never forget you Swaggie!

Rammsteinmad 03-01-2017 08:16 PM
Remember how massively over "We the People" was when he was going after Rusev.

He was fucked the moment Cesaro split from the Real Americans, though.

Droford 03-01-2017 08:49 PM
Zeb Coulter is in TNA..can't wait for the <strike>Real..True..All American..</strike>Double American

#1-norm-fan 03-01-2017 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4935726)
Remember how massively over "We the People" was when he was going after Rusev.
To be fair, quite a few people were over when going after Rusev. Could just be that Rusev is awesome.

RP 03-01-2017 08:56 PM
WHY WOULD THEY LET JACK SWAGGER leave OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH THIS COMPANY!

Lock Jaw 03-01-2017 08:59 PM
Think Swagger could have been "made a star" if he went over Rusev in that feud.

But then a few months later he would have been floundering, and Rusev would have also got to floundering a lot sooner than he did.

Vastardikai 03-01-2017 09:37 PM
I feel like I should post what this means:

WWE Creative didn't know how to book an All American Babyface... in America.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-02-2017 02:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4935726)
Remember how massively over "We the People" was when he was going after Rusev.

He was fucked the moment Cesaro split from the Real Americans, though.
Eh, he was fucked when be had a Wrestlemania title match and decided he couldn't lay off the synthetic weed.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-02-2017 02:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4935726)
Remember how massively over "We the People" was when he was going after Rusev.

He was fucked the moment Cesaro split from the Real Americans, though.
To me, that was mostly WWE covering their asses by removing the racist overtones of "We The People." Playing off that wrestling fans were racist assholes wasn't doing WWE any favors. Nothing really about Swagger at all just trying to remove something the media could mock.

GD 03-02-2017 03:06 AM
The entrance music was fucking awesome (especially live).

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I've always been a "mark" for Swagger. And while he didn't have the smoothest of runs, he'll end his WWE career as a former United States, ECW, and World Heavyweight Champion. That's one helluva resume.

GD 03-02-2017 03:11 AM
And this actually happened :yes:

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Nicky Fives 03-02-2017 03:52 AM
Eva Marie & David Otunga still have a job, but Jack Swagger does not. Something is wrong with the world.

GD 03-02-2017 05:02 AM
When he annihilated Y2J to win his second world title

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GD 03-02-2017 05:06 AM
When he tamed the Viper

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GD 03-02-2017 05:07 AM
When he BROKE Matt Hardy to win his first world title

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GD 03-02-2017 05:11 AM
When Jack Swagger won the Elimination Chamber match to headline Wrestlemania for Alberto Del Rio's World Heavyweight Championship

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GD 03-02-2017 05:13 AM
When he silenced the Woo! Woo! Woo! Kid for the United States Championship

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ClockShot 03-02-2017 08:17 AM
He was on Smackdown for like 2 episodes. And then he just disappeared.

This is for the best. He'll land on his feet somewhere.

RP 03-02-2017 09:12 AM
Was he getting paid?

wwe2222 03-02-2017 09:21 AM
I was a big fan of Swagger. Shame they didnt know what to do with him.

Evil Vito 03-02-2017 11:22 AM
As much as I liked him, it was almost a hindrance putting Swagger on television because the announcers would invariably bring up that he was a former World champion. Rather than that statement making Swagger look good, it actually just made the belt look bad because Swagger has been doing pretty much nothing for years.

Simple Fan 03-02-2017 11:25 AM
Feel like Curtis Axel will be the next. He'll either leave or be released at the next round of releases.

erickman 03-02-2017 01:46 PM
he would do good in japan wish he left sooner

RP 03-02-2017 01:52 PM
serious question though. Was he getting paid ? Is Eva Marie getting paid? Do they get paid by the appearance?

Heisenberg 03-02-2017 03:00 PM
"What's Jack TeaBagger doing in the IMPACT Zone!?!"

Hanso Amore 03-02-2017 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RP (Post 4936038)
serious question though. Was he getting paid ? Is Eva Marie getting paid? Do they get paid by the appearance?
yes. WWE has dumped alot of the hold "Pay per dates" or "X amount of guaranteed dates" back when WCW crushed contracts.

These guys Get X Salary plus merch. If injured they get a downside guarantee. but hes still been travelling and appearing on how shows and such. If they dont use him on TV he gets paid the same

If you are on the road you get paid. If you are at home for injury or just working out at the performance studio or whatever you get your downside.

This is why guys getting shit treatment will stick around. They are getting paid good money depending on when they negotiated their contract to do nothing.

The only reason to leave, is to be happy and try to save some level of popularity for a shift to indies. At some point every superstar is going to get let go, and Swagger probably wants to capitalize off his name the best he can. If he jobs out another 2 years and gets released his value will be shit.

Cool King 03-02-2017 03:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4935988)
Feel like Curtis Axel will be the next. He'll either leave or be released at the next round of releases.
Oh God I hope not.

JimmyMess 03-02-2017 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 4935988)
Feel like Curtis Axel will be the next. He'll either leave or be released at the next round of releases.
I feel like he will always be around because WWE uses him to train part-timers and returnees. He may not be on TV but they are probably paying him a little more since he's the guy to get people back in ring shape.

Anybody Thrilla 03-02-2017 03:46 PM
I really liked Jack Swagger. Sucks to see him go.

Evil Vito 03-02-2017 03:51 PM
With Swagger's departure, there are only two "WWECW Originals" left who made their main roster debut with the ECW brand and have been with the company ever since: Sheamus and Zack Ryder.

If you include people who left the company and came back you also have Curt Hawkins and Tye Dillinger. Pretty sure the Major Brothers and Gavin Spears are canon.

Loved WWECW.

Cool King 03-02-2017 03:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmyMess (Post 4936089)
I feel like he will always be around because WWE uses him to train part-timers and returnees. He may not be on TV but they are probably paying him a little more since he's the guy to get people back in ring shape.
It sounds like he's the new Steven Richards.

Jobber most of the time, but trainer of part-timers when needed.

I'm sure Richards trained Shane McMahon for his match against Shawn Michaels on Saturday Night's Main Event back in 2005.

Anybody Thrilla 03-02-2017 04:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 4936105)
With Swagger's departure, there are only two "WWECW Originals" left who made their main roster debut with the ECW brand and have been with the company ever since: Sheamus and Zack Ryder.

If you include people who left the company and came back you also have Curt Hawkins and Tye Dillinger. Pretty sure the Major Brothers and Gavin Spears are canon.

Loved WWECW.
Does Tyson Kidd count? I loved WWECW too.

Evil Vito 03-02-2017 05:49 PM
I didn't count Kidd, sadly I keep forgetting he's officially employed even though he'll never wrestle again :( miss him

Evil Vito 03-02-2017 05:49 PM
If you expand it out to just people who were on the WWECW roster you've still got Kane, Mark Henry, and Goldust milling around. And Finlay as a backstage guy.

Shelton Benjamin and Matt Hardy possibly coming back too.

Nicky Fives 03-02-2017 10:53 PM
Big Show as well. and rumours of Kelly Kelly.

Vastardikai 03-02-2017 11:35 PM
Didn't Kofi debut in WWECW?

DAMN iNATOR 03-03-2017 02:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4936260)
Didn't Kofi debut in WWECW?
He did. January 22, 2008. Also, Sheamus is still around and doing pretty well for himself although I don't dig his hairdo, facial hair or entrance music these days.

It should be noted that although he appeared on RAW and did some SD! house shows and even the odd dark match, Sheamus' official televised wrestling debut was on the June 30, 2009 ECW.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-03-2017 03:48 AM
DAMN, you don't like the New Day?! :O

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-03-2017 03:49 AM
SHAME!

Evil Vito 03-03-2017 09:25 AM
Good call on Kofi. I completely forgot he debuted on ECW with those awful vignettes.

#1-norm-fan 03-03-2017 09:57 AM
Remember when Yoshi Tatsu debuted on ECW by beating Shelton Benjamin with one kick? Good times.

Droford 03-03-2017 10:06 AM
Kurt Angle went to ECW and he's back

Evil Vito 03-03-2017 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4936352)
Remember when Yoshi Tatsu debuted on ECW by beating Shelton Benjamin with one kick? Good times.
I actually loved the New Superstar Initiative in general. They'd sometimes wind up debuting 3 or 4 people in one night, but giving them all different directions.

Even if one of those guys did end up being Braden Walker.

Cool King 03-03-2017 04:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4936352)
Remember when Yoshi Tatsu debuted on ECW by beating Shelton Benjamin with one kick? Good times.
I actually liked Yoshi Tatsu.

He was nifty.

Swiss Ultimate 03-03-2017 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4935796)
I feel like I should post what this means:

WWE Creative didn't know how to book an All American Babyface... in America.
:lol:

Emperor Smeat 03-03-2017 10:57 PM
So apparently the WWE rejected Swagger's request to get immediately released and also gave him no permission to be on upcoming indie shows.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Observer
The WWE officially announced today that Jacob Hager, aka Jack Swagger, has not been released, even though he said that he was leaving the company on Wednesday.

Where this gets interesting is that Swagger has been announced for several shows next weekend in the U.K., the first being a singles match on March 10th against Alberto El Patron in Norwich, England for the WAW promotion.

WWE claims he can not do that match, noting that when he is officially released, at that point he would have a 90-day non-compete period where WWE will pay him based on his downside guarantee, but during that period he can't wrestle anywhere else, whether that be promotions they consider rivals, television promotions, or anywhere else.

"He's currently under contract to WWE," said a WWE company source. "When he is released, he would have a 90 day non-compete."

Swagger appeared on Chael Sonnen's "Beyond the Fight" podcast earlier this week to announce that he had requested his release from WWE and to explain why he made the decision.

Vastardikai 03-03-2017 11:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4936556)
So apparently the WWE rejected Swagger's request to get immediately released and also gave him no permission to be on upcoming indie shows.
Swagger might want to ask Alberto about a good lawyer...

Emperor Smeat 03-03-2017 11:09 PM
Doubt that will work since it seems like he made the announcement before starting the actual paperwork needed which caught the WWE completely off guard. Same for them finding out he already got booked for several indie shows next week.

DAMN iNATOR 03-04-2017 12:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4936314)
DAMN, you don't like the New Day?! :O
You misread my post. I was talking about Sheamus' hairdo/facial hair and music. I have no problems whatsoever with Kofi or any of New Day for that matter.

#PLEASEDONTMISREADMYPOSTS

Anybody Thrilla 03-04-2017 05:15 PM
Sheamus had already been mentioned too, while we're talking about misreading posts.

Emperor Smeat 03-13-2017 07:05 PM
WWE made it official today.

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Lock Jaw 03-13-2017 08:23 PM
When Kurt Angle is finally back to put an ankle lock on him, too.......

Cool King 03-13-2017 08:30 PM
So today Scotland announces it wants another Independence Referendum, the UK can now officially trigger Article 50 to begin leaving the EU whenever it wants, Kaityln shacks up with Big E and now Jack Swagger has officially been released from the WWE.

Today truly is a shit day.

Vastardikai 03-13-2017 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4940581)
So today Scotland announces it wants another Independence Referendum, the UK can now officially trigger Article 50 to begin leaving the EU whenever it wants, Kaityln shacks up with Big E and now Jack Swagger has officially been released from the WWE.

Today truly is a shit day.
It's all in perception. I'm sure for Swagger, it's a great day.

I'm sure for E, it's the bestest day evar.

Outsider 03-13-2017 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 4940581)
So today Scotland announces it wants another Independence Referendum, the UK can now officially trigger Article 50 to begin leaving the EU whenever it wants, Kaityln shacks up with Big E and now Jack Swagger has officially been released from the WWE.

Today truly is a shit day.
3/4 of those were hardly a surprise.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-13-2017 09:28 PM
Now he can continue his feud with Matt Sydal.

#1-norm-fan 03-13-2017 10:29 PM
Yeah, that's what no one was thinking.

Tom Guycott 03-14-2017 01:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4940572)
When Kurt Angle is finally back to put an ankle lock on him, too.......
They only need one American Hero on the roster at a time.

Tom Guycott 03-14-2017 01:09 AM
Also:

"WHAT'S JAKE HAGER DOING IN THE IMPACT ZONE?!?"

DAMN iNATOR 03-14-2017 08:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4940648)
It's all in perception. I'm sure for Swagger, it's a great day.

I'm sure for E, it's the bestest day evar.
And for Kaitlyn, the biggest day ever. :naughty:

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-14-2017 08:54 PM
Who broke Merc?


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