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Swiss Ultimate 09-02-2017 01:18 PM

Greatest Athletes in Wrestling?
 
Who do you think the best true athletes were/are in terms of strength, speed, agility, and stamina?

They don't need to be well rounded, mind you, just great in one of those areas.

For me I've been impressed most by Brock Lesnar and Rey Mysterio respectively. Very different ends of the spectrum, obviously, but just insanely gifted and disciplined.

Jordan 09-02-2017 01:20 PM

Well, Kurt Angle is the most solid of options I can see.

Swiss Ultimate 09-02-2017 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5010511)
Well, Kurt Angle is the most solid of options I can see.

Oh yeah, great pick.

Lock Jaw 09-02-2017 01:35 PM

Cesaro is pound-for-pound the strongest athlete in the WWE!

Maluco 09-02-2017 01:53 PM

Lesnar and Angle are the standouts. They have real accomplishments to back it up to.

I think AJ Styles is an incredible athlete too, amazing poise and balance, makes everything look easy.

An out of left field one, because he wasn't a smooth wrestler and was a bit clunky, but Marc Mero was a golden gloves boxer that could do 450 splashes. Pretty impressive

Blue Demon 09-02-2017 01:53 PM

Kurt Angle and Cesaro currently. Mr. Perfect was a solid all around athlete in terms of guys from the past.

Bad News Gertner 09-02-2017 01:55 PM

Danny Hodge way back in the day. Shelton Benjamin is up there

Jordan 09-02-2017 03:10 PM

Anyone who was a high level wrestler would be a more intense athlete than any other sport, in my opinion.

So you can add Dolph Ziggler to the list.

Jordan 09-02-2017 03:12 PM

Also Mark Henry, in his own was, in his sport of powerlifting he was one of the best ever so even though it's a very specific activity, he should probably be included as well.

Wasn't Verne Gagne in the NFL? Was he good?

Jordan 09-02-2017 03:13 PM

Baron Corbin seems to have done well in several sports. NFL, boxing, and grappling I think.

Shisen Kopf 09-02-2017 03:16 PM

Randy Savage. Played baseball, was a great rassler, didn't kill Miss Elizabeth.

Rammsteinmad 09-02-2017 03:42 PM

Cesaro for sure, seems like the kind of guy that excelled that every sport he ever took part in.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-02-2017 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5010521)
Danny Hodge way back in the day. Shelton Benjamin is up there

Lol at edges story about hodges fingers to his ribs

Destor 09-02-2017 03:48 PM

Lesnar and Angle are the only two options in my mind but a shout out to Benjamin, Lashley and Benoit. All are machines.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-02-2017 03:48 PM

And early 90s scott steiner

Shisen Kopf 09-02-2017 03:49 PM

Earthquake, Yokozuna and Big Show all did sumo rasslin so they've gotta be up at the top of the list.

Maluco 09-02-2017 04:40 PM

I think out of current guys, I would give a shout out to New Day. All three seem extremely athletic and agile in their own way.

Seth Rollins too seems super fit and athletic.

Strangely, struggling to think of any of the women who seem like supreme natural athletes. Noone really sticks out as being supremely gifted athletically. More a case of working very hard at what they do in the ring.

Stickman 09-02-2017 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 5010565)
I think out of current guys, I would give a shout out to New Day. All three seem extremely athletic and agile in their own way.

Seth Rollins too seems super fit and athletic.

Strangely, struggling to think of any of the women who seem like supreme natural athletes. Noone really sticks out as being supremely gifted athletically. More a case of working very hard at what they do in the ring.

Charolette

Shisen Kopf 09-02-2017 06:40 PM

Nia Jax ain't like most girls

Juan 09-03-2017 02:43 AM

Big Show could have been a candidate at one point

James Steele 09-03-2017 04:54 AM

Shawn Michaels or Triple H

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 05:46 AM

Bayley because she successfully defended the Raw women's title at WrestleMania.

Bad News Gertner 09-03-2017 10:13 AM

Bobby Eaton. Still.

hb2k 09-03-2017 12:36 PM

Billy Gunn, obviously.

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 12:49 PM

ALL OF THESE ARE GOOD SUGGESTIONS.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 5010782)
Shawn Michaels or Triple H

can you explain what would possibly put HHH on this list?

Ruien 09-03-2017 05:05 PM

Angle, Mark Henry, and Brock. All were the best at one point in time with their respected sport.

Ruien 09-03-2017 05:05 PM

Kurt Fucking Angle did it with a broken fucking neck though so he wins.

Gerard 09-03-2017 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 5010545)
Earthquake, Yokozuna and Big Show all did sumo rasslin so they've gotta be up at the top of the list.

Earthquake yeah, hes the only legit sumo of the three.

hb2k 09-03-2017 05:14 PM

Triple H has no business in this discussion.

Destor 09-03-2017 07:06 PM

Juan recommended the big show and no one says a word. Triple H though and now we have critics

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 07:13 PM

lol I chalk it off to not even considering it as correct in the first place

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 07:14 PM

I also enjoy tpww's number juan poster, and enjoy dealing James Steelel the brunt of my Dastardly Wrath.

DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5010531)
Also Mark Henry, in his own was, in his sport of powerlifting he was one of the best ever so even though it's a very specific activity, he should probably be included as well.

Wasn't Verne Gagne in the NFL? Was he good?

Yeah. I remember him legit setting a new world record on SD! a few years back, and holy fuck was he on 🔥 with the Hall of Pain.

One of my favorite moments from the early HoP days:


DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 07:24 PM

Also, how has Rock not been mentioned?!

Lock Jaw 09-03-2017 07:26 PM

More importantly, how has The Modern Day Maharaja and YOUR WWE Champion, Jinder Mahal, not been mentioned?!

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 5010930)
Also, how has Rock not been mentioned?!

BECAUSE HE HAD A BREAST REDUCTION.

DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swiss (Post 5010933)
BECAUSE HE HAD A BREAST REDUCTION.

(gasp) BLASPHEMY!

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 07:42 PM

BOOBSPHEMY!!!!

DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 07:59 PM

(gasp) Mean person! (throws dinner roll @Swiss' face, runs out of thread sobbing)

FakeLaser 09-03-2017 08:03 PM

Outside of the obvious ones that have already been mentioned, feel Ricochet and Will Ospreay should get a shoutout for doing things that seem literally impossible.

Kurt Angle is probably the best athlete in wrestling history though.

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeLaser (Post 5010962)
Outside of the obvious ones that have already been mentioned, feel Ricochet and Will Ospreay should get a shoutout for doing things that seem literally impossible.

Kurt Angle is probably the best athlete in wrestling history though.

HEY MAN, THANKS FOR STOPPING IN. I WILL HAVE TO CHECK OUT BOTH OF THOSE WRESTLERS.

Shisen Kopf 09-03-2017 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeLaser (Post 5010962)
Outside of the obvious ones that have already been mentioned, feel Ricochet and Will Ospreay should get a shoutout for doing things that seem literally impossible.

Kurt Angle is probably the best athlete in wrestling history though.

Going out on a limb there

JimmyMess 09-04-2017 09:07 AM

john morrison is a hell of an athlete. his rumble spots tend to showcase that stuff.

Swiss Ultimate 09-04-2017 01:15 PM

JOMO IS AN ACROBAT.

Juan 09-04-2017 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5010919)
Juan recommended the big show and no one says a word. Triple H though and now we have critics

Like I said, I think he could have been in the conversation at one point in his career, not currently obviously. Dude was doing moonsaults and drop kicks like a cruiserweight

hb2k 09-05-2017 07:19 AM

There's a lot of good gymnasts and fine athletes, but peak Angle shits on the rest of the field.

Yeah, completely missed Big Show getting a mention, what a load of bollocks.

Funnily enough, while he was a bloody terrible athlete in wrestling, Steve McMichael should get a mention for being a Super Bowl winner and part of the legendary 85 Bears unit. Guys have an impressive college football career and JR would be all over them, but McMichael was a legitimately huge success in an athletic endeavour. As opposed to Corbin who somehow got a mention as an NFL player when he never took to the field for a game once, even in preseason.

Juan 09-05-2017 07:40 AM

You're a load of bullocks

Swiss Ultimate 09-05-2017 07:48 AM

Wight was a freak of nature in college basketball. He's really in his own class altogether.

hb2k 09-05-2017 10:18 AM

He's outright said he couldn't make the pros because he wasn't good enough. He was the reserve center at WSU behind Claudius Johnson, not the starter, he wasn't that special on the court. He was the man in high school, sure, but in college he wasn't a star.

Put it this way - Brian Pillman has more business in this conversation for his college career alone than Big Show does for his.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-05-2017 10:33 AM

Liam isnt biased or anything *ignores hollywood blonde avatar*

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-05-2017 10:35 AM

Lol but if anyone argues show as being a better athlete than pillman, i will laugh.

Nicky Fives 09-05-2017 10:35 AM

I've always wanted to see WWE rent out an athletic facility for a few days and film some of the guys/girls performing some of the Olympic events. Smaller and more agile guys could try their hand at hurdles, high jump, etc. after some pointers from some pro's, and the bigger guys can rock some weightlifting events....

hb2k 09-05-2017 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5011545)
Liam isnt biased or anything *ignores hollywood blonde avatar*

That's just coincidence ¬_¬ If you want proof, I even brought up fuckin' Mongo before I played the Pillman card.

The Condor 09-05-2017 09:57 PM

Angle, no question.

Honorable mentions for RVD and Marc Mero, though.

#1-norm-fan 09-06-2017 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5011246)
Like I said, I think he could have been in the conversation at one point in his career, not currently obviously. Dude was doing moonsaults and drop kicks like a cruiserweight

I've gotta see these Big Show moonsaults and cruiserweight-esque dropkicks.

Juan 09-06-2017 05:30 AM

He's talked about it on some podcast, which I understand doesn't make it true, but my point is that Show, at one pint in his career, was a good athlete for a 400+ lb giant, not that he's better than anyone that's been mentioned here.

Swiss Ultimate 09-06-2017 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5011918)
I've gotta see these Big Show moonsaults and cruiserweight-esque dropkicks.

THE DROP KICKS ARE STILL THERE, BUT THE INTERNET IS WIPED CLEAN OF HIS MOONSAULTS. I ACTUALLY HAVE SEEN THE MATCHES WHERE HE DID IT, BUT CAN'T FIND ANYTHING NOW.

Destor 09-06-2017 10:23 AM

Show never did a moolnsailt. Urban legend. Now his dropkicks/missle drop kicks we pretty solid. Not like...Bob Holly good or anything but good all the same.

#1-norm-fan 09-06-2017 05:02 PM

He throws a fine dropkick. Not sure if I'd put him in a "greatest athlete" conversation based on them.

I'm definitely calling bullshit on these moonsaults though. If The Big Show ever did a moonsault it would be all over the internet. lol

Swiss Ultimate 09-06-2017 07:22 PM

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Swiss Ultimate 09-06-2017 07:23 PM

I SEEN IT IN MY MIND'S EYE.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-06-2017 07:30 PM

Shelton for athletics

Ric Flair and CM Punk for cardio.

Swiss Ultimate 09-06-2017 07:43 PM

IF GIANT EVER DID A MOONSAULT AS HE SAID IT PROBABLY HAPPENED BETWEEN 1995-1996 IN NEW JAPAN PRO WRESTLING.

DAMN iNATOR 09-06-2017 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5011983)
He's talked about it on some podcast, which I understand doesn't make it true, but my point is that Show, at one pint in his career, was a good athlete for a 400+ lb giant, not that he's better than anyone that's been mentioned here.

WEEEEEEEEELLLLLLL IT'S THE DRUNK SHOW!

Destor 09-06-2017 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5012149)
Shelton for athletics

Ric Flair and CM Punk for cardio.

Punk has good pacing not cardio. He cant go wide open for 25 let alone an hour

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-06-2017 09:23 PM

"wide open" define that term. I mean I kind of know what you mean but I'd like it explained.

Destor 09-06-2017 09:30 PM

There's a few ways.

Obviously the sprints like Dragon Gate would put out. Even if you were doing 8 mans it would still be demanding.

Then you have guys like Angle, Michales or anyone in the east and its a much more active match. Double downs to get some wind back but otherwise you're moving from bell to bell.

Punks style though was build up to the spot and the lul them back down. Good style, but not demanding. As far and IWC darlings go he's probably the laziest. Even his classic broadways with Joe were long stretches of working the headlock. Which made for a great story but would be unfair to say he was a workhouse/cardio machine. He rests ALOT.

Swiss Ultimate 09-06-2017 10:37 PM

BEST CARDIO IN THE BUSINESS BELONGED TO MISSY HYATT

Bad News Gertner 09-07-2017 02:57 PM

Iron Mike Sharpe for cardio and I'm being serious.

Bob Backlund was unbelievably strong and in ridiculous shape. Still is.

Fignuts 09-07-2017 03:11 PM

Big show moonsault the latest mandala effect

Swiss Ultimate 09-05-2018 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AMAZON WARLORD (Post 5012214)
BEST CARDIO IN THE BUSINESS BELONGED TO MISSY HYATT

I no longer remember what I meant by this.

I do remember my all-caps gimmick though. That was great.

Destor 09-05-2018 03:47 PM

she took a lot of dick.

Swiss Ultimate 09-05-2018 05:24 PM

POOR NEW JACK'S PENIS!

A.J.K 09-05-2018 10:41 PM

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Vader
Ric Flair
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