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Destor 09-03-2017 10:20 AM

Better Wrestler #77
 
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<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler History</option> <option>#1. Trish Stratus vs Charlotte (27-13)</option> <option>#2. Trish Stratus vs The Miz (20-13)</option> <option>#3. Trish Stratus vs Booker T (19-19)</option> <option>#4. Trish Stratus vs The Big Show (19-9)</option> <option>#5. Trish Stratus vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (10-25)</option> <option>#6. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat vs Bokker T (22-13)</option> <option>#7. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat vs Kevin Nash (17-16)</option> <option>#8. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat vs John Cena (6-21)</option> <option>#9. John Cena vs Kevin Owens (25-8)</option> <option>#10. John Cena vs Goldberg (28-4)</option> <option>#11. John Cena vs Chris Jericho (4-33)</option> <option>#12. Chris Jericho vs AJ Styles (26-6)</option> <option>#13. Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit (26-5)</option> <option>#14. Chris Jericho vs Kurt Angle (9-27)</option> <option>#15. Kurt Angle vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-5)</option> <option>#16. Kurt Angle vs "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes (17-14)</option> <option>#17. Kurt Angle vs Eddie Guerrero (23-12)</option> <option>#18. Kurt Angle vs "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels (21-22)</option> <option>#19. "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels vs Christian (31-7)</option> <option>#20. "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels vs Mick Foley (27-7)</option><option>#21. "The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (20-23)</option><option>#22. Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs Vader (24-15)</option><option>#23. Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (20-18)</option><option>#24. Bret "The Hitman" Hart vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (12-24)</option><option>#25. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Ultimate Warrior (34-4)</option><option>#26. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-3)</option><option>#27. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Triple H (32-6)</option><option>#28. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs The Undertaker (24-19)</option><option>#29. Roman Reigns vs Lex Luger (21-20)</option><option>#30. Roman Reigns vs The Great Khali (20-18)</option><option>#31. Roman Reigns vs AJ Lee (14-24)</option><option>#32. AJ Lee vs Emma (32-6)</option><option>#33. AJ Lee vs Lita (11-26)</option><option>#34. Lita vs John Morrison (15-22)</option><option> #35. John Morrison vs Ricochet (26-6)</option><option>#36. John Morrison vs Dean Malenko (8-25)</option><option>#37. Dean Malenko vs Perry Saturn (23-10)</option><option>#38. Dean Malenko vs Taz (19-22)</option><option>#39. Taz vs Shane Douglas (28-3)</option><option>#40. Taz vs Raven (15-19)</option><option>#41. Raven vs Bray Wyatt (20-11)</option><option>#42. Raven vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (7-25)</option><option>#43. "Diamond" Dallas Page vs Scott Hall (14-16)</option><option>#44. Scott Hall vs Sid Vicious (29-4)</option><option>#45. Scott Hall vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (26-8)</option><option>#46. Scott Hall vs "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase (13-17)</option><option>#47. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase vs "Dr. Death" Steve Williams (24-6)</option><option>#48. "The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase vs Sting (12-26)</option><option>#49. Sting vs Matt Hardy (26-8)</option><option>#50. Sting vs Edge (13-24)</option><option>#51. Edge vs Kane (20-13)</option><option>#52. Edge vs Dean Ambrose (22-13)</option><option>#53. Edge vs CM Punk (12-24)</option><option>#54. CM Punk vs Rob Van Damn (18-19) </option><option>#55. Rob Van Dam vs Adrian Neville (26-7)</option><option>#56. Rob Van Dam vs Rey Mysterio (10-22)</option><option>#57. Rey Mysterio vs Scott Steiner (18-12)</option><option>#58. Rey Mysterio vs Jeff Hardy (20-15)</option><option>#59. Rey Mysterio vs Brock Lesnar (6-26)</option><option>#60. Brock Lesnar vs John "Bradshaw" Layfield (28-3)</option><option>#61. Brock Lesnar vs Randy Orton (21-12)</option><option>#62. Brock Lesnar vs John Cena (13-17)</option><option> #63. John Cena vs Vince McMahon (18-12)</option><option>#64. John Cena vs Andre The Giant (11-18)</option><option>#65. Andre The Giant vs The Big Show (21-8)</option><option>#66. Andre The Giant vs Sgt. Slaughter (23-5)</option><option>#67. Andre The Giant vs Chris Jericho (15-18)</option><option>#68. Chris Jericho vs Shinsuke Nakamura (23-5)</option><option> #69. Chris Jericho vs Terry Funk (18-19)</option><option>#70. Terry Funk vs Bob Backlund (22-6)</option><option>#71. Terry Funk vs Jerry "The King" Lawler (14-15)</option><option>#72. Jerry "The King" Lawler vs Bam Bam Bigelow (19-6)</option><option>#73. Jerry "The King" Lawler vs Harley Race (14-11)</option><option>#74. Jerry "The King" Lawler vs "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson (15-20)</option><option>#75. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson vs Austin Ares (26-2)</option><option>#76. "American Dragon" Bryan Danielson vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (24-13)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Better Wrestler History</option><option>#1.RVD vs CM Punk (34-19)</option><option>#2.RVD vs Santino Marella (36-4)</option><option>#3.RVD vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (15-23)</option><option>#4."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Tully Blanchard (30-5)</option><option>#5."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Chris Jericho (15-23)</option><option>#6.Chris Jericho vs Brock Lesnar (34-10)</option><option>#7.Chris Jericho vs William Regal (38-14)</option><option>#8.Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (21-23)</option><option>#9.Eddie Guerrero vs Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat (26-7)</option><option>#10.Eddie Guerrero vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (26-19)</option><option>#11.Eddie Guerrero vs Diamond Dallas Page (39-8)</option><option>#12.Eddie Guerrero vs "Stone Cold" Steve Austin(19-28)</option><option>#13."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Chris Benoit (32-13)</option><option>#14."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (29-10)</option><option>#15."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Sting (36-16)</option><option>#16."Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (32-31)</option><option>#17.Hulk Hogan vs John Cena (15-24)</option><option>#18.John Cena vs Lex Luger (32-6)</option><option>#19.John Cena vs Ultimate Warrior (29-18)</option><option>#20.John Cena vs Dean Malenko (9-40)</option><option>#21.Dean Malenko vs Billy Kidman (31-7)</option><option>#22.Dean Malenko vs Ultimo Dragon (22-15)</option><option>#23.Dean Malenko vs Taz (15-17)</option><option>#24.Taz vs Sabu (38-2)</option><option>#25.Taz vs Jeff Hardy (25-16)</option><option>#26.Taz vs Bam Bam Bigelow (26-12)</option><option>#27.Taz vs Triple H (24-22)</option><option>#28.Edge vs Christian Cage (22-23)</option><option>#29.Christian Cage vs Raven (23-22)</option><option>#30.Christian vs Matt Hardy (22-19)</option><option>#31.Christian vs Ted Dibiase (24-25)</option><option>#32.Ted Dibiase vs "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (16-19)</option><option>#33."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs "The British Bulldog" Davey Boy Smith (25-19)</option><option>#34."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs Bob Backlund (26-6)</option><option>#35."Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs The Dynamite Kid (26-13)</option><option>#36."Rowdy Roddy Piper vs Ric Flair (16-19)</option><option>#37.Ric Flair vs Bret "The Hitman" Hart (19-17)</option><option>#38.Ric Flair vs Andre "The Giant" (28-5)</option><option>#39.Ric Flair vs Triple H (26-11)</option><option>#40.Ric Flair vs Shawn Michaels (20-26)</option><option>#41.Shawn Michaels vs Jushin "Thunder" Lyger (26-15)</option><option>#42.Shawn Michaels vs Perry Saturn (36-12)</option><option>#43.Shawn Michaels vs The Undertaker (29-11)</option><option>#44.Shawn Michaels vs The Rock (28-30)</option><option>#45.The Rock vs Trish Stratus (21-16)</option><option>#46.The Rock vs Lance Storm (22-19)</option><option>#47.The Rock vs Owen Hart (18-12)</option><option>#48.The Rock vs Kurt Angle (5-24)</option><option>#49.Kurt Angle vs Ken Shamrock (36-5)</option><option>#50.Kurt Angle vs Rob Van Dam (23-13)</option><option>#51.Kurt Angle vs "King Kong" Bruiser Brody (20-10)</option><option>#52.Kurt Angle vs Mick Foley (31-6)</option><option>#53.John Morrison vs Braden Walker (36-11)</option><option>#54.John Morrison vs Kofi Kingston (34-5)</option><option>#55.John Morrison vs CM Punk (14-28)</option><option>#56.CM Punk vs Tajiri (28-20)</option><option>#57.CM Punk vs Booker T (24-23)</option><option>#58.CM Punk vs Samoa Joe (53-4)</option><option>#59.CM Punk vs "Macho Man" Randy Savage (19-36)</option><option>#60."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Adorable" Adrian Adonis (47-2)</option><option>#61."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs Goldberg (49-4)</option><option>#62."Macho Man" Randy Savage vs "Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig (31-38)</option><option>#63."Mr.Perfect" Curt Hennig vs "Diamond" Dallas Page (51-17)</option><option>#64."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs William Regal (37-18)</option><option>#65."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Brock Lesnar (48-4)</option><option>#66."Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig vs Eddie Guerrero (39-40)</option><option>#67. Eddie Guerrero vs Arn Anderson (33-22)</option><option>#68. Eddie Guerrero vs Jake "The Snake" Roberts (37-36)</option><option>#69. Eddie Guerrero vs Sting (41-16)</option><option>#70. Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero (45-18)</option><option>#71. Chris Jericho vs Rey Mysterio (63-3)</option><option>#72. Chris Jericho vs Kevin Nash (54-12)</option><option>#73. Chris Jericho vs Dean Malenko (39-9)</option><option>#74. Chris Jericho vs Ricky Steamboat (41-30)</option><option>#75. Masato Tanaka vs Mike Awesome (24-18)</option><option>#76. Masato Tanaka vs X-Pac (34-16)</option><option>#77. Masato Tanaka vs Rikishi (36-13)</option><option>#78. Brian Pillman vs Masato Tanaka (31-13)</option><option>#79. Brian Pillman vs Road Dogg (44-7)</option><option>#80. Ultimo Dragon vs Brian Pillman (29-28)</option><option>#81. Ultimo Dragon vs Goldust (35-19)</option><option>#82. Ultimo Dragon vs Barry Windham (36-9)</option><option>#83. Ultimo Dragon vs Randy Orton (35-34)</option><option>#84. Edge vs Ultimo Dragon (48-8)</option><option>#85. Edge vs Jeff Hardy (54-5)</option><option>#86. Edge vs Razor Ramon (44-21)</option><option>#87. Ted Dibiase vs Edge (39-33)</option><option>#88. Ted Dibiase vs Doink the Clown (59-4)</option><option>#89. Ted Dibiase vs Rick Rude (34-20)</option><option>#90. Ted Dibiase vs. Christian (39-32)</option><option>#91. Ted Dibiase vs. Bret Hart (24-55)</option><option>#92. Bret Hart vs. Scott Steiner (56-8)</option><option>#93. Bret Hart vs. Christopher Daniels (47-15)</option><option>#94. Bret Hart vs. Triple H (40-22)</option><option>#95. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels (26-47)</option><option>#96. Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jannetty (54-7)</option><option>#97. Shawn Michaels vs. Bryan Danielson (36-12)</option><option>#98. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (38-33)</option><option>#99. Shawn Michaels vs. The Rock (44-34)</option><option>#100. Earthquake vs. Vader (10-65)</option><option>#101. Vader vs. Bam Bam Bigelow (33-32)</option><option>#102. Vader vs. The Great Muta (32-29)</option><option>#103. Vader vs. Mick Foley (16-42)</option><option>#104. Mick Foley vs. Al Snow (49-7)</option><option>#105. Mick Foley vs. Jerry Lynn (41-11)</option><option>#106. Mick Foley vs. Rob Van Dam (24-38)</option><option>#107. Rob Van Dam vs. Tommy Dreamer (52-4)</option><option>#108. Rob Van Dam vs. John Morrison (54-14)</option><option>#109. Rob Van Dam vs. Owen Hart (36-36)</option><option>#110. Rob Van Dam vs. The Undertaker (22-53)</option><option>#111. The Undertaker vs. Owen Hart (62-16)</option><option>#112. The Undertaker vs. Kane (63-3)</option><option>#113. The Undertaker vs. Diamond Dallas Page (51-18)</option><option>#114. The Undertaker vs. Ric Flair (44-43)</option><option>#115. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Ron Simmons (33-25)</option><option>#116. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. Juventud Guerrera (28-19)</option><option>#117. John "Bradshaw" Layfield vs. The Big Show (25-39)</option><option>#118. The Big Show vs. Sid (50-10)</option><option>#119. The Big Show vs. Lance Storm (18-48)</option><option>#120. Lance Storm vs. Meng (65-7)</option><option>#121. Lance Storm vs. John Cena (53-18)</option><option>#122. Lance Storm vs. Sting (23-50)</option><option>#123. Sting vs. The Ultimate Warrior (57-18)</option><option>#124. Sting vs. Dusty Rhodes (50-24)</option><option>#125. Sting vs. CM Punk (41-32)</option><option>#126. Sting vs. Randy Savage (27-50)</option><option>#127. Randy Savage vs. Jim Duggan (65-7)</option><option>#128. Randy Savage vs. AJ Styles (64-13)</option><option>#129. Randy Savage vs. Booker T (61-16)</option><option>#130. Randy Savage vs. Roddy Piper (55-27)</option><option>#131. Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (35-29)</option><option>#132. Rick Martel vs. Shane Douglas (29-36)</option><option>#133. Shane Douglas vs. Rhino (35-38)</option><option>#134. Rhino vs. Jeff Jarrett (30-36)</option><option>#135. Jeff Jarrett vs. Mike Rotunda (30-38)</option><option>#136. Mike Rotunda vs. Chris Kanyon (44-24)</option><option>#137. Mike Rotunda vs. Barry Windham (38-17)</option><option>#138. Mike Rotunda vs. Scott Hall (11-63)</option><option>#139. Scott Hall vs. Goldberg (60-17)</option><option>#140. Scott Hall vs. Kevin Nash (47-31)</option><option>#141. Scott Hall vs. Brian Pillman (44-34)</option><option>#142. Scott Hall vs. Edge (26-64)</option><option>#143. Edge vs. Matt Hardy (71-12)</option><option>#144. Edge vs. Arn Anderson (38-34)</option><option>#145. Edge vs. Randy Orton (45-36)</option><option>#146. Edge vs. Triple H (29-47)</option><option>#147. Triple H vs. Batista (65-8)</option><option>#148. Triple H vs. Raven (54-25)</option><option>#149. Triple H vs. Ricky Steamboat (44-43)</option><option>#150. Triple H vs. Eddie Guerrero (43-56)</option><option>#151. Eddie Guerrero vs. Trish Stratus (58-12)</option><option>#152. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Great Muta (47-11)</option><option>#153. Eddie Guerrero vs. Curt Hennig (34-43)</option><option>#154. Curt Hennig vs. Jerry Lawler (63-9)</option><option>#155. Curt Hennig vs. Hulk Hogan (54-17)</option><option>#156. Curt Hennig vs. Christian (47-26)</option><option>#157. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (31-44)</option><option>#158. The Rock vs. Steve Blackman (54-22)</option><option>#159. The Rock vs. Vader (54-14)</option><option>#160. The Rock vs. Mick Foley (48-22)</option><option>#161. The Rock vs. Bret Hart (42-49)</option><option>#162. Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith (70-8)</option><option>#163. Bret Hart vs. Dean Malenko (52-16)</option><option>#164. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (47-18)</option><option>#165. Bret Hart vs. Ric Flair (53-32)</option><option>#166. Barry Darsow vs. Ed Leslie (45-13)</option><option>#167. Barry Darsow vs. Jacques Rougeau (17-38)</option><option>#168. Jacques Rougeau vs. Evan Bourne (18-49)</option><option>#169. Evan Bourne vs. Mr. Anderson (38-16)</option><option>#170. Evan Bourne vs. Bryan Danielson(10-50)</option><option>#171. Bryan Danielson vs. Billy Gunn (56-16)</option><option>#172. Bryan Danielson vs. The Miz (42-26)</option><option>#173. Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Benoit (27-40)</option><option>#174. Chris Benoit vs. Chavo Guerrero (53-8)</option><option>#175. Chris Benoit vs. Perry Saturn (48-13)</option><option>#176. Chris Benoit vs. Lance Storm (36-21)</option><option>#177. Chris Benoit vs. Ted Dibiase (41-34)</option><option>#178. TAKA Michinoku vs. Sho Funaki (51-9)</option><option>#179. TAKA Michinoku vs. Santino Marella (48-9)</option><option>#180. TAKA Michinoku vs. Rey Mysterio (23-41)</option><option>#181. Rey Mysterio vs. Gregory Helms (34-8)</option><option>#182. Rey Mysterio vs. Jeff Hardy (41-18)</option><option>#183. Rey Mysterio vs. Diamond Dallas Page (34-37)</option><option>#184. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Big Boss Man (49-5)</option><option>#185. Diamond Dallas Page vs. Yoshihiro Tajiri (34-18)</option><option>#186. Diamond Dallas Page vs. CM Punk (19-41)</option><option>#187. CM Punk vs. Terry Funk (35-18)</option><option>#188. CM Punk vs. Kane (40-13)</option><option>#189. CM Punk vs. Rob Van Dam (39-22)</option><option>#190. CM Punk vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (39-37)</option><option>#191. Ted DiBiase, Jr. vs. Cody Rhodes (23-36)</option><option>#192. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (10-51)</option><option>#193. Goldust vs. Shelton Benjamin (41-22)</option><option>#194. Goldust vs. Rick Rude (21-37)</option><option>#195. Rick Rude vs. Rick Martel (42-6)</option><option>#196. Rick Rude vs. The Big Show (30-15)</option><option>#197. Rick Rude vs. Jake Roberts (26-38)</option><option>#198. Jake Roberts vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (50-16)</option><option>#199. Jake Roberts vs. Arn Anderson (39-31)</option><option>#200. Jake Roberts vs. Brian Pillman (34-20)</option><option>#201. Jake Roberts vs. Edge (42-28)</option><option>#202. Raven vs. Shane Douglas (45-6)</option><option>#203. Raven vs. R-Truth (39-6)</option><option>#204. Raven vs. Booker T (31-40)</option><option>#205. Booker T vs. Jerry Lawler (37-20)</option><option>#206. Booker T vs. Sheamus (51-11)</option><option>#207. Booker T vs. Christian (21-33)</option><option>#208. Christian vs. Jushin "Thunder" Liger (30-21)</option><option>#209. Christian vs. Kevin Nash (30-24)</option><option>#210. Christian vs. Randy Orton (41-22)</option><option>#211. Christian vs. Eddie Guerrero (10-66)</option><option>#212. Eddie Guerrero vs. Andre the Giant (55-16)</option><option>#213. Eddie Guerrero vs. Hulk Hogan (47-29)</option><option>#214. Eddie Guerrero vs. Scott Hall (47-18)</option><option>#215. Eddie Guerrero vs. The Rock (28-40)</option><option>#216. The Rock vs. William Regal (39-17)</option><option>#217. The Rock vs. Brock Lesnar (47-13)</option><option>#218. The Rock vs. Sting (31-19)</option><option>#219. The Rock vs. Triple H (40-27)</option><option>#220. Ahmed Johnson vs. Ezekiel Jackson (41-11)</option><option>#221. Ahmed Johnson vs. The Godfather (6-44)</option><option>#222. The Godfather vs. D'Lo Brown (9-42)</option><option>#223. D'Lo Brown vs. Val Venis (29-20)</option><option>#224. D'Lo Brown vs. Mark Henry (36-23)</option><option>#225. D'Lo Brown vs. The Miz (10-46)</option><option>#226. The Miz vs. John Morrison (52-13)</option><option>#227. The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler (39-49)</option><option>#228. Dolph Ziggler vs. Wade Barrett (42-21)</option><option>#229. Dolph Ziggler vs. John Cena (38-31)</option><option>#230. Dolph Ziggler vs. Lance Storm (38-37)</option><option>#231. Dolph Ziggler vs. Curt Hennig (18-55)</option><option>#233. Curt Hennig vs. Zack Ryder (62-8)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Vader (45-14)</option><option>#234. Curt Hennig vs. Owen Hart (38-22)</option><option>#235. Curt Hennig vs. Ric Flair (48-39)</option><option>#236. Jesse James vs. Billy Gunn (16-38)</option><option>#237. Billy Gunn vs. Sabu (40-15)</option><option>#238. Billy Gunn vs. Scott Steiner (20-38)</option><option>#239. Scott Steiner vs. Billy Kidman (28-26)</option><option>#240. Scott Steiner vs. Alberto Del Rio (25-34)</option><option>#241. Alberto Del Rio vs. X-Pac (29-25)</option><option>#242. Alberto Del Rio vs. Cody Rhodes (19-44)</option><option>#243. Cody Rhodes vs. Kofi Kingston (49-7)</option><option>#244. Cody Rhodes vs. Dusty Rhodes (30-30)</option><option>#245. Cody Rhodes vs. Goldust (18-31)</option><option>#246. Goldust vs. Dusty Rhodes (31-15)</option><option>#247. Goldust vs. Vader (29-39)</option><option>#248. Vader vs. Yokozuna (55-8)</option><option>#249. Vader vs Stan Hansen (31-10)</option><option>#250. Vader vs. Mick Foley (15-41)</option><option>#251. Mick Foley vs. Terry Funk (34-18)</option><option>#252. Mick Foley vs. Santino Marella (60-2)</option><option>#253. Mick Foley vs. Diamond Dallas Page (40-19)</option><option>#254. Mick Foley vs. Edge (49-28)</option><option>#255. Tajiri vs. Super Crazy (62-4)</option><option>#256. Tajiri vs The Great Muta (17-35)</option><option>#257. The Great Muta vs. Ultimo Dragon (32-28)</option><option>#258. The Great Muta vs. Brian Pillman (32-21)</option><option>#259. The Great Muta vs. Booker T (24-36)</option><option>#260. Booker T vs. Ron Simmons (50-13)</option><option>#261. Booker T vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield (37-20)</option><option>#262. Booker T vs. Daniel Bryan (28-20)</option><option>#263. Booker T vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper (20-40)</option><option>#264. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. "Cowboy" Bob Orton (48-6)</option><option>#265. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Christian (30-13)</option><option>#266. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Scott Hall (37-15)</option><option>#267. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper vs. Eddie Guerrero (31-32)</option><option>#268. Eddie Guerrero vs. Mr. Anderson (56-1)</option><option>#269. Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (41-11)</option><option>#270. Eddie Guerrero vs. Ted DiBiase (41-13)</option><option>#271. Eddie Guerrero vs. Triple H (40-32)</option><option>#272. Kane vs. Ryback (50-15)</option><option>#273. Kane vs. Sid (28-23)</option><option>#274. Kane vs. Big Show (41-13)</option><option>#275. Kane vs. Sting (12-46)</option><option>#276. Sting vs. Lex Luger (49-2)</option><option>#277. Sting vs. Rick Rude (30-28)</option><option>#278. Sting vs. Rob Van Dam (37-12)</option><option>#279. Sting vs. Hulk Hogan (29-30)</option><option>#280. Hulk Hogan vs. Andre "The Giant" (46-14)</option><option>#281. Hulk Hogan vs. Jeff Hardy (49-11)</option><option>#282. Hulk Hogan vs. Ultimate Warrior (37-15)</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Better Wrestler Hall of Fame</option><option>"Stone Cold" Steve Austin</option><option>Taz</option><option>Kurt Angle</option><option>Chris Jericho</option><option>"The Heartbreak Kid" Shawn Michaels</option><option>The Undertaker</option><option>"Macho Man" Randy Savage</option><option>Bret "Hitman" Hart</option><option>Chris Benoit</option><option>CM Punk</option><option>Jake "The Snake" Roberts</option><option>The Rock</option><option>"Mr. Perfect" Curt Hennig</option><option>Mick Foley</option><option>Eddie Guerrero</option><option>Hulk Hogan</option></select>

<select><option selected="selected">Previous Best Wrestler Tournament History</option><option>ROUND 1</option><option>#1. Randy Savage vs. Taz (72-4)</option><option>#2. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin (42-42)</option><option>#3. Chris Jericho vs. Jake Roberts (52-15)</option><option>#4. Bret Hart vs. CM Punk (44-24)</option><option>#5. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (27-31)</option><option>#6. Mick Foley vs. Kurt Angle (18-41)</option><option>#7. Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels (13-50)</option><option>#8. Chris Benoit vs. Hulk Hogan (28-36)</option><option>ROUND 2</option><option>#9. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (41-18)</option><option>#10. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels (14-22-26)</option><option>#11. Chris Jericho vs. Kurt Angle (30-27)</option><option>#12. Bret Hart vs. The Rock (32-34)</option><option>ROUND 3</option><option>#13. Randy Savage vs. The Rock (41-22)</option><option>#14. Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (20-43)</option><option>ROUND 4</option><option>#15. Randy Savage vs Shawn Michaels (25-48)</option></select>

Ruien 09-03-2017 10:47 AM

Hmmmmmm.

Shisen Kopf 09-03-2017 10:52 AM

Daniel Bryan is so overrated. HBK is an all time great. But what it really comes down to is the fact that HBK hunts animals and eats meat while Bryan is a Nancy boy vegan. Lame.

Destor 09-03-2017 11:12 AM

This match up is brought to you by Dale Newstead

Bad News Gertner 09-03-2017 11:16 AM

HBK. The best big time performer in wrestling history.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 12:03 PM

HBK by a mile. Runs away with it in every category. And even if you give Bryan credit for who WWE tries to push nowadays, if there was no HBK, there would be no Daniel Bryan.

Rammsteinmad 09-03-2017 12:18 PM

Sympathy voted Daniel Bryan coz I know he's gonna get destroyed in this round.

Lock Jaw 09-03-2017 12:22 PM

Gotta give it to HBK just due to longevity. Only way for Daniel Bryan to overcome HBK would be to also come out of retirement and have a another decade of top notch quality feuds/matches.

SlickyTrickyDamon 09-03-2017 12:38 PM

Voted for HBK but props to Daniel Bryan to have the career he has had without being a total douchenozzle.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 12:43 PM

Was thinking i shoulda gone w bret v d bry. But for him to be a true hall of famer he needs to surpass hbshizzle

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 12:44 PM

Voted hbk tho. Longevity at the top being the (super) kicker

Blue Demon 09-03-2017 01:00 PM

As much as he screwed Bret....there's no denying Shawn's ability and being an all around talent.

Maluco 09-03-2017 01:01 PM

HBK, not only the greatest in ring performer of all time, for me, but also one of the great storytellers. Matches like his comeback against HHH, the Flair Mania match and his own retirement match were so fueled with emotion. He knew how to tell a story and make it all seem so high stakes.

Just a personal opinion, but noone beats him as an overall performer for me. I have never came close to getting so much enjoyment out of one performer as I have out of HBK. Absolute legend.

Bad News Gertner 09-03-2017 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oswald Thatendswald (Post 5010837)
As much as he screwed Bret....there's no denying Shawn's ability and being an all around talent.

Bret screwed Bret

Lock Jaw 09-03-2017 01:14 PM

Gertner screwed Bret

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 02:04 PM

HBK HAD BETTER PSYCHOLOGY AND BETTER LOOK. ALSO MUCH BETTER ON THE MIC.

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 02:09 PM

I DO LOVE DB'S WRESTLEMANIA MOMENT THOUGH. HE'S DEFINITELY RESPONSIBLE FOR A GREAT PERFORMANCE. WORKED THROUGH HIS WEAKNESSES PRETTY WELL.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 02:18 PM

GOOD POINTS SWISS

Blue Demon 09-03-2017 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5010839)
Bret screwed Bret

:fu::fu::rant::rant::rant:

Destor 09-03-2017 02:41 PM

Montreal was a work

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 02:53 PM

I don't think it was

mike adamle 09-03-2017 03:01 PM

I don't think Bryan was a better wrestler than HBK, and he certainly wasn't better at promos, showmanship, etc. I probably would've picked HBK if he actually retired in 1998 over Bryan, I'd absolutely pick his 2002-2010 run over Bryan, put both of them together and it's gonna be very hard for anyone to beat.

Destor 09-03-2017 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5010851)
I don't think it was

It definitely was

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 03:05 PM

Proof?

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 03:05 PM

I mean I wouldn't mind if it was. Just seems silly to keep the charade up after all of these years.

#BROKEN Hasney 09-03-2017 03:11 PM

If it was a work, I wish Bret had the same acting ability in his promos. He's still crying like a bitch to this day.

Moose Knuckle 09-03-2017 03:14 PM

Maybe if Bryan had a longer career he might've been better. But HBK was one of the best to ever do it in every category.

Destor 09-03-2017 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5010856)
I mean I wouldn't mind if it was. Just seems silly to keep the charade up after all of these years.

Only way it makes any sense.

Bischoff didnt want Bret he wanted the title. They were going to Alundra Blaze it on Nitro. So Bret works this monster contract. Bischoffs cock is hard and they sign the deal. Bret loves vince. So Bret goes to him and tells him about the pay dat and together they create this scenerio to keep Bret from gettinf sued and to protect the WWF.

Ask yourself some key questions here: why did vince go to ring side? He could have called for the bell from the back. Why did he? To sell the fucking angle. To remove any doubt that the finish was a fuck job. Why? Hes a fucking commentator why would needlessly break kayfabe like that?

The Wrestling with Shadows doc also gave it away. Back in the day when you gigged afterward theyd take sand paper and reallt rough your face up so when you went out on the town it would sell the angle. After the match Bret and Vince have it out...but behind closed doors...how convinient. Bret decks vince. He really did, the diff is vince and bret werent fighting they were selling the angle. Next night vince appears on tv with a shiner...why would he? That makes no sense. Unless you wanted Bischoff to see.

Its the greatest work of all time, they'll never come clean on it. Its too good to spoil.

0% it was a shoot. Makes no sense to do it that way. Its all show.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 03:28 PM

circumstantial. But hey if that's what they did then it's a great way to deal w Bischoff.

Destor 09-03-2017 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5010868)
circumstantial. But hey if that's what they did then it's a great way to deal w Bischoff.

Everything that says its a shoot is as well, cept you have ignore all logic.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 03:36 PM

well I mean other than verification from many different sources.

I mean hey Vince and Bret can be working everyone, they're after all carnies. But it'd be one hell of a work.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 03:58 PM

I think if it was a work, Vince and Bret would have had to have been the only ones who knew.

And if it was a shoot, it should have been a work because I'm pretty sure Bret would have agreed to it so there's no point in not working it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 04:01 PM

I actually agree

Destor 09-03-2017 04:17 PM

There are def only 2-4 in the know.

Lock Jaw 09-03-2017 04:19 PM

And one of those men is none other than DESTOR

Lock Jaw 09-03-2017 04:20 PM

Impressive restraint to not have revealed anything even this many years after the fact

Maluco 09-03-2017 04:23 PM

It would also explain why Hart's heart (lol) was never really in the stuff he did in WCW. Sure, they didn't use him very well, but he seemed a shadow of the guy WWF had. It's almost like he was happy to semi-retire on a massive guaranteed contract.

There is also the fact that even when telling "the truth", HBK's and Hart's accounts, as well as others, are never consistent. Probably kept a blur of misinformation on purpose.

Maluco 09-03-2017 04:26 PM

There will probably be another DVD about it in 4-5 years time too! Almost like it's a better financial decision to keep it vague.

Gotta say, Destor makes some really good points about Vince that I never considered before.

Savio 09-03-2017 04:38 PM

No ones heart was in WCW at the time.

If it was all a work Bret probably would have shown up at the Mania after he was inducted.

Destor 09-03-2017 04:40 PM

I think if you're being objective you have to atleast believe that the scenerio the transpired is completely illogical.

"If you tell a big enough lie often enough eventually people will come to believe it." Joseph Goebbels

Destor 09-03-2017 04:41 PM

If you think that montreal is too elaborate to be a work go look up the pilman incident specifically bischoffs long term plan

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 04:54 PM

Yeah but Bischoff worked himself into a shoot lol

Destor 09-03-2017 04:56 PM

Did he? Pillmans long term plans are only known to him at this point. Maybe he was playing the middle or maybe he was selling it.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 04:58 PM

Legit fired Pillman and Pillman signed w/ the WWF

Destor 09-03-2017 05:20 PM

That was the plan

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 05:21 PM

why?

Destor 09-03-2017 05:22 PM

Bischoff tells the story that the idea was to have pilman go over there, climb their ranks and then return as a defector. And conquering hero. The whole thing was a work. The bookerman incident, the firing, going to new york. All of it, that was the design.

Lock Jaw 09-03-2017 05:35 PM

How about that Daniel Bryan vs. HBK, though? What a match that would have been to see in real life!

Maluco 09-03-2017 05:36 PM

But was Pillman not just agreeing to it to get his release and he had no intention of ever going back? That's what I always heard...

Destor 09-03-2017 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maluco (Post 5010904)
But was Pillman not just agreeing to it to get his release and he had no intention of ever going back? That's what I always heard...

No one knows frankly.

Destor 09-03-2017 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5010903)
How about that Daniel Bryan vs. HBK, though? What a match that would have been to see in real life!

Its def one of the all time dream matches. Along with Danielson v Angle

Savio 09-03-2017 05:42 PM

Oh and also I voted for hbk because he grabbed Adam Copelands cock.

Destor 09-03-2017 05:47 PM

He did what to the who

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 06:15 PM

I THINK DESTOR IS RIGHT.

DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 06:28 PM

Easy choice when you've got the greatest of recent times v. one of the GOAT (HBK). Shawn wins by default in a laugher of a match-up.

Curtis 09-03-2017 06:28 PM

"How to make Daniel Bryan lose".


Can not vote against HBK, he is pretty much the greatest of all time as a complete package. The only "bad" thing about HBK's whole career was his several year absence during the attitude era with his injury but he more then made up for it with his incredible matches after his return.


HBK may be a huge asshole backstage, but he quintessentially the complete package of a wrestler. Amazing on the mic, incredible in the ring, an icon, an amazing presence inside and outside the ring, and in some ways a pioneer for the industry with contributions still felt today.


Daniel Bryan is a great, but he is one of many (in terms of wrestling history altogether). HBK is a legend. If wrestling history was a textbook, HBK would have his own chapter, while a guy like Bryan might get a few paragraphs.


I don't think anybody can touch HBK at this point. I love Daniel Bryan and I think if he was given a longer career and perhaps other stars to work with, he could've reached much higher, but at this point, it's a no brainer to pick HBK over him.

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 06:30 PM

HBK IS GOING TO HAVE A NICE WINNING STREAK. IT WILL TAKE AN AUSTIN, HOGAN, OR ROCK TO TAKE HIM OUT.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 5010936)
Easy choice when you've got the greatest of recent times v. one of the GOAT (HBK). Shawn wins by default in a laugher of a match-up.

There's so much wrong with these sentences...

DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 06:34 PM

OK, so maybe DB wasn't one of the greatest of recent times, but that's the only concession I'll make.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 06:34 PM

No, that's not the problem. lol

DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 06:37 PM

So then you admit there's actually nothing wrong with my post, despite your claim to the contrary...

mike adamle 09-03-2017 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5010902)
Bischoff tells the story that the idea was to have pilman go over there, climb their ranks and then return as a defector. And conquering hero. The whole thing was a work. The bookerman incident, the firing, going to new york. All of it, that was the design.

And then Vince found out and sent a hit man after him. As per the rumor. Idk if I believe all that.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 5010947)
So then you admit there's actually nothing wrong with my post, despite your claim to the contrary...

Do you know what "by default" means?

You basically said "Daniel Bryan is the greatest wrestler of recent times" and then said HBK only wins because the competition is shit. lol

Destor 09-03-2017 06:42 PM

Yeah i draw the line at that point. I meam Vince has had his hands in some shady stuff...but that would ne the apex

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 06:47 PM

lol "I know what I'll do. I'll kill him." seems like a bit of an over reaction to finding out about the plan. Releasing him would suffice.

mike adamle 09-03-2017 06:52 PM

I wonder if he had Jimmy Snuka do it.

DAMN iNATOR 09-03-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5010949)
Do you know what "by default" means?

You basically said "Daniel Bryan is the greatest wrestler of recent times" and then said HBK only wins because the competition is shit. lol

I never said that about DB. I just said as great as he was, Shawn was a notch better. I certainly don't think anyone will ever mistake them as completely equal to one another career wise.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 5010936)
Easy choice when you've got the greatest of recent times v. one of the GOAT (HBK).

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5010949)
You basically said "Daniel Bryan is the greatest wrestler of recent times"...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 5010957)
I never said that about DB.

I also still don't think you know what "by default" means.

#ABTWasRight

FakeLaser 09-03-2017 06:59 PM

Favorite Michaels match?

I'll go vs. Mankind at Mind Games.

Destor 09-03-2017 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeLaser (Post 5010960)
Favorite Michaels match?

I'll go vs. Mankind at Mind Games.

Hot match.

Michaels v Angle Wrestlemania or Flair v Michaels...dunno.

Destor 09-03-2017 07:21 PM

Favorite danielson match was v colt cabana 2 out of 3 falls. To be fair the booking is why but the finish was just so damn smart...cant remember what card that was on

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 07:27 PM

Couldn't even choose a favorite HBK match. It changes based on my mood. First Taker WM match, Flair retirement, HHH @ SummerSlam '02 and the iron man match with Bret for sentimental reasons would be up there.

Also, I actually prefer his Vengeance match with Angle over the WrestleMania one.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 07:29 PM

Favorite Daniel Bryan match is either 2 out of 3 falls against Sheamus or the Royal Rumble match against Bray Wyatt.

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FakeLaser (Post 5010960)
Favorite Michaels match?

I'll go vs. Mankind at Mind Games.

Oh man but his Angle matches are just bonkers

Ol Dirty Dastard 09-03-2017 07:53 PM

Hard to choose. But Mick and shawns style meshed. Mick has a unique style where most of his offence looks really cool but it is safe and Shawn can take his own bumps while Mick also risks life from limb.

Foley as Mankind in the original heel run was actually a tremendous athlete in that he had a lot of awkward mass to move but he was quick, fit, while understatedly massive

mike adamle 09-03-2017 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5010969)
Favorite danielson match was v colt cabana 2 out of 3 falls. To be fair the booking is why but the finish was just so damn smart...cant remember what card that was on

ROH Gut Check. The match Bryan hurts his shoulder in the first 7 minutes and wrestled 60.

Destor 09-03-2017 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5010980)
ROH Gut Check. The match Bryan hurts his shoulder in the first 7 minutes and wrestled 60.

Yessssssssssssss


So good

Shisen Kopf 09-03-2017 09:15 PM

Daniel Bryan is so overrated. If it wasn't for the YES chant and team Hell No he would no way be as over or considered as good as he is.

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 5010994)
Daniel Bryan is so overrated. If it wasn't for the YES chant and team Hell No he would no way be as over or considered as good as he is.

TRUE STORY: BILLY ZANE CAME UP WITH THE YES CHANT.

Shisen Kopf 09-03-2017 09:17 PM

Can't believe that hussy Rose left him to be with that Jack. Poor Billy Zane

Swiss Ultimate 09-03-2017 09:21 PM

THAT DOOR WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR TWO, BUT SHE REALIZED HER MISTAKE AND LET JACK DROWN.

Shisen Kopf 09-03-2017 09:26 PM

The bitch.

Destor 09-03-2017 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 5010994)
Daniel Bryan is so overrated. If it wasn't for the YES chant and team Hell No he would no way be as over or considered as good as he is.

If it wasnt for beer and middle fingers steve austin wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for rocky and branding hogan wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for catchphrases and routine matches the rock wouldnt be considered as good as he is

Maluco 09-03-2017 10:58 PM

Honestly, being completely serious, Daniel Bryan is a Punk, Benoit, Guerrero level talent. If you had a massive fed, he would be mid to upper mid card. In the reliable worker match. The guaranteed 4 star match. He caught fire for a brief period, but he is not on the same level as the very top guys in the history of the business. Whether that be the very elite performers (Angle, HBK, Flair) or the megastars (Hogan, Austin, Rock).

They are all several tiers above him. I understand people enjoying his run and his big moment, but he seems to be extremely overrated on here. Think of the moments and matches and stories those top guys have had. Another level completely.

Destor 09-03-2017 11:04 PM

If you look at the poll above i think he is accurately rated

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 11:08 PM

Maluco speaks the truth.

Bryan existed in a weird time when WWE's booking completely stopped having foresight. So they teased him winning the world title constantly, expecting to just move him out of the picture and be done with it. Once you do that to an underdog though, you've gotta have a payoff. They basically forced their own hand to give him a title run.

If not for that, he could have just kept being a fixture in the IC/US title picture and no one would have "rioted" over him not being a world champion. In an odd way, WWE's terrible booking is responsible for Daniel Bryan being kind of overrated.

Maluco 09-03-2017 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5011031)
If you look at the poll above i think he is accurately rated

Poll above doesn't tell the story of how highly rated he is on the forum. He is losing to Shawn Michaels after all.

Destor 09-03-2017 11:20 PM

I dunno...hes been the best worker on earth since 06 and as sokn as he had a platform to show he got over. Its what good workers do. Michaels is better though. More crosss over appeal.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 11:29 PM

Best worker from a technical wrestling standpoint, maybe.

Destor 09-03-2017 11:30 PM

Nah, he got over and drew everywhere he went, everytime the audience he was able to perform for grew so did his success. He was only limited by the promoters he had available to him. Hes not a worse worker just because the monopoly man wouldnt give him a job.

Shisen Kopf 09-03-2017 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5011005)
If it wasnt for beer and middle fingers steve austin wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for rocky and branding hogan wouldnt be considered as good as he is

If it wasnt for catchphrases and routine matches the rock wouldnt be considered as good as he is

No. You're comparing an overrated flash in the pan to legends.

Destor 09-03-2017 11:31 PM

Had there been more opportunities he'd have had a decade plus of headlining.

Destor 09-03-2017 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 5011045)
No. You're comparing an overrated flash in the pan to legends.

Not comparing him to those guys at all. Just pointing out how dumb of an argument that is

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 11:35 PM

Destor, you tend to waffle a lot on if we should include "what ifs" when talking about how great someone is. I remember you arguing when I'd pick a minor star over a major star because I thought if the minor star was in the other guy's situation booking-wise he would have been huge. Now you're arguing that exact point for Bryan.

Destor 09-03-2017 11:39 PM

Maybe you swayed me? MAYBE THIS IS YOUR FAULT

Destor 09-03-2017 11:41 PM

I mean, im not arguing he's better than hbk based off what ifs. Hbk is better. Im just saying danielson was the best worker in the world for a lot longer than he was on a national stage. He just didnt get to show it to people until far too late.

And thats his legacy, too little too late. But he was still the gold standard in my eyes.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5011049)
Maybe you swayed me? MAYBE THIS IS YOUR FAULT

It's quite possible. If so, we need to go re-visit that Undertaker "should he be given so much credit for a booked streak" conversation again. lol

Evil Vito 09-03-2017 11:42 PM

God damn...2 of my top 5 favorites of all time.

This is a tough call for me. I'm gonna go with Bryan mostly because I had the benefit of enjoying his entire career as it was happening. I was invested in him from very early on and it made the eventual WM30 culmination feel all the more surreal to me.

Shawn had already had his first retirement before I started watching wrestling. While I obviously loved watching him in his second run, I never felt that I got to enjoy the same level of emotional investment as people who got to follow his run in the 90s. I can only imagine what it must've felt like for Shawn fans to actually have him come back 4 years after he was meant to be done.

Having said that, I'll go with Bryan knowing full well he's gonna lose anyway. Here's hoping Shawn can go the distance.

#1-norm-fan 09-03-2017 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5011050)
I mean, im not arguing he's better than hbk based off what ifs. Hbk is better. Im just saying danielson was the best worker in the world for a lot longer than he was on a national stage. He just didnt get to show it to people until far too late.

And thats his legacy, too little too late. But he was still the gold standard in my eyes.

When you say "worker" though...

Do you mean the complete package of what makes a great pro wrestler?

Destor 09-03-2017 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5011053)
When you say "worker" though...

Do you mean the complete package of what makes a great pro wrestler?

I think he had every tool to make money for any promoter that was willing to promote him. I think not signing him in his prime cost vince money; i think he's that good. And have for over a decade. He has an ear for a crowd that is so rare. He can call an audible so fast and adapt to the flux of a crowd in real time in ways few people can. And at a highhhhhh level and technique and athleticism. Frankly only Michaels benoit angle and Guerrero have ever been able to do it at that level, he's a very unique talent. And he didnt develope these skill in developmental.


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