Why does Matt Hardy insist on looking like that?
 

I can't even stand looking at the guy with his dumb pants and stupid everything.

Uhhhh, pertinence...

Where would you go with the Hardy Boyz from here? Remain a team? Fire Matt out of a cannon into the sun and let Jeff have another singles go? DELETE them entirely? What say you?

Hes only partially broken

Let matt go after the cruiser weight title.

Might have to wear more than a couple trash bags at this point.

My remote might end up broken as I sling it across the room upon laying eyes upon his dumb pants.

I belieV1 in him

I had to google what he looks like these days.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...y_Jan_2017.jpg

What the fuck is this?

Maybe he should head down to the PC and teach people how to be ring generals or whatever the fuck, but I have a hard time understanding why anyone is cheering him in the ring these days. Thanks for the memories. Leave them alone.

You're right. He should head back to the indies and do the gimmick properly.

Or join Breezango fully broken.

He probably shouldn't do the gimmick either.

The Hardys' run has gone about as badly as I could've feared.

Not only were people re-invested in the Hardys for the first time in, like, 5 years - but they'd become one of the hottest acts in wrestling. So of course WWE bring them back and then immediately strip them of the unique gimmick that was 90% of what had made them interesting again.

I can't even blame the lawsuit at this point. They could've made them the Woken Hardys, the Shattered Hardys, or whatever the fuck else while letting them essentially work their gimmicks. You can't trademark "Hardys acting wacky".

I'm thinking "Hardys going from Broken to Boring" is gonna be hard to beat for my biggest disappointment in wrestling for 2017.

I'm still on board with Jeff. Matt could probably find a hobby erstwhile.

Why wasn't Jeff the crazy one anyway? With a history of substance abuse like that, it would be pretty legit.

Drunk Jeff was Sting is probably my favorite match ever.

Brother Nero was batshit too.........unless the subtext was that Matt was the only crazy one and Jeff was just pissing about to humor his brother.

BRING BACK WILLOW THE WASP

Really wish they would have gotten the Broken gimmick but I doubt it would be any good in WWE anyway. I'd honestly like to see Matt leave and go somewhere he can use his creativeness and let Jeff have one last singles run.

I think the subtext was that it was wack and stupid as fuck. All of it. Just give us back that Jeff from 2008 or whenever.

It wasn't good anywhere.

Disagree as it was one of the best things in wrestling last year and got them back in WWE. You might not have liked it but don't be blind to what it was.

I honestly have no idea why that broken gimmick was so popular. It seemed dumb as fuck.

It was fucking stupid. I'm not accepting anything else. I'm not being blind. I weep for you, though.

It seemed as such because it WAS as such.

But I'm mostly talking about Matt Hardy currently. Where do we all go from here?

Just release him. I've never been a fan of the Hardys, but that broken gimmick was/is just too much.

Fucking wrestling in their backyard.

:y:

To something you dont enjoy, but I do and he seemingly wants to do?

You think that would stop anything when the match ja scheduled for one fall ONE FALL. What?

Matt is actually the talented one oddly enough all jeff has ever been good at is jumping off shit and we have Shane for that

Matt is creative and just doesn't get to be as creative in WWE. The Broken gimmick was ridiculous, that was the whole point of the gimmick but he played serious as hell and that's what made it great. He was invested in the character and it payed off. Guy has always evolved his character over the years and could find something new if he was to leave WWE. Just seems like they brought them in to be Broken but never got the rights to the gimmick so its time to either do something different or let Matt go.

I meant with the Hardyz. Like the second part of my original post was asking.

I think the only thing that can be salvaged is a Jeff singles run. I thought they were thinking about it too when he got that Intercontinental title match with the Miz. What's the extent of his injury anyway? Torn rotator cuff?

WWE should have called an audible once it became more apparent the Broken gimmick was in legal hell.

Going by reports, they actually had the foresight for how short the shelf life for the old Hardys gimmick was going to be. Same for timing the teases at good times but then they decided to just let the Hardys flounder in a division that got smaller over time.

Yes, Brother Nero, the whole shebang.

This is not a problem that is strictly to the Hardy's though. Dudley's had it when they got back to. The routine, booking and constant TV strips away everyone's momentum and aura. Just look at Nakamura. From what I have read and from guys comments on here, he is just another average Joe on the roster now and just got beaten clean by Jinder Mahal.

Back to subject though. There is no way they should be straddling the line. If they want just normal Matt Hardy, he shouldn't be on TV looking like that!

If he is not broken, why does he look so stupid? It just makes him look old and sad.

Yeah, you get it.

I do agree that it is stupid to have him look and tease the Broken character when WWE are not trying to present them in that way. Understandable at first when it was a possibility but at this point it's not. Gives the people that were fans of it false hope and as we've seen irritates the ones that weren't even more.

It's good to see people calling the Broken gimmick out for the steaming pile of shit that it was. Bad for the sake of bad is not good. It had 15-year-old boy syndrome in a big way, and that's largely because it came from a guy who never matured outside the wrestling industry.

It's weird that people say it was "hot" too. No one watched TNA. Even your average WWE video has more views than their Broken stuff. I don't get how people think it was successful. It was championed within certain pockets, but this idea that it made money or got TNA attention is just...false. People were literally saying that there was more money in Broken Matt than in Classic Hardys -- you know, one of the most over tag teams and biggest merch movers WWE has ever had. Insanity.

But let's say the gimmick was good. I'm not willing to concede that, but let's put it on a subjective spectrum: How much of that do you think was environmental? How much of the hand-held camera, aerial drone shot, poorly acted stuff gained "charm" or whatever from being a) pieced together by a company that was trying really hard to be good and falling short; and b) being in a small-time promotion. Don't you think there would need to be innate philosophical differences between a TNA produced one and a WWE produced one?

TNA and Matt Hardy were being overly ambitious with the gimmick. They had nothing better to fill time with. They had no eyeballs so it was logical to experiment. You're going in one direction. Plus, Matt Hardy and Jeremy Borash, or whoever the fuck, only have a certain level of production skill, so when they try really hard to put things together, it could theoretically attain that "camp" effect, in that they were trying really sincerely to do this thing, and if there were any charm there, it has to surely come from that.

For WWE, it wouldn't be technically ambitious -- it would be sacrificing many of the tools at their disposal. There is plenty of stuff they could put on instead of it. There are eyeballs watching their product (lol, not many though), so there is more risk involved. They've this world-class production team. It wouldn't make sense for them to air shitty camera footage on their show like that.

Aesthetically and philosophically, I would think that fans of the TNA gimmick would want WWE to leave it the fuck alone.

As for Matt Hardy right now? There's no real interest in him as an act without Jeff, who is the star. With Jeff out for months, maybe just pay Matt to try and stay in shape and let him spend time with his family. Call him in for a Royal Rumble spot and maybe use him in the Andre Battle Royal and re-evaluate when you get Jeff back. But I'd be in favor of a singles run for Jeff.

I've said many times I don't want to see it in WWE. Hell WWE did try to do it with the Wyatt Compound segment and failed. I didn't want to see the same story they told originally either and if they did use it would want it to be a bit different.

It was great as it was pretty much Hardy just fucking around for laughs then TNA got desperate and gave him the whole show. Yeah it was campy but was also telling a story which is somthing that is lscking in pro wrestling today. It got over on the internet and unfortunately in today's world sometimes that's all it takes.

But was it over? No one on the internet watched it.

Made two guys some money on tshirt sales. Sold 0 tickets.

Matt Hardy as a singles act has always been entertaining. If given the chance I think he could reinvent himself again as a singles act on Smackdown. Doesn't have to be Broken or anything like it. Jeff has always been my favorite but he has nothing on Matt when it comes to character development and progression. That being said Jeff doesn't really have to rely on those qualities and can carry himself in the ring although was very funny in the Broken Universe with all his characters.

No he wasn't.

Yes he was.

#nah

If you can't get a laugh out of Itchweed I feel sorry for you man.

Fuck Itchweed. Tyson Tomko was funnier than him.

Tomko could be funny.

Gene Snitsky. Now THAT dude was straight comedy. Don't feel sorry for me because I wasn't on board with some faggoty Jeff Hardy brainchild.

Eh didn't CA e for Snitsky but I could see how someone found him funny.

Are you fucking kidding? That Kane and Lita wedding or whatever I'm talking about was way better than anything Broken.

"It's not my fault, the things that love can do to us
Just like it wasn't my fault that there was a dead baby in your uterus"

Gold.

And he punted a baby. A regular Richard fucking Pryor.

This guy is funnier than the Broken gimmick:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/B3h25kPKXnA/maxresdefault.jpg

You just dont know comedy. It's OK. Thousands of people are wrong every day.

I AM COMEDY :mad:

Standby Wrestler really is a hilarious gimmick. Always doing that same squat in the back, just hoping someone will ever need him. Richard Justice is awesome. Way better than Broken.

If you ever tour, that should be the name of it. Mad face included.

I'M TOURING RIGHT NOW :mad::mad:

...is what I would call it.

Richard Justice is funny I'll give you that. Not better than Broken Matt Hardy though. Broken Matt Hardy was so much more than just comedy though. Hit on many different genres of entertainment, some liked it some didn't.

No he didn't. What else did he hit on besides self-serving smarky bullshit that made the entire show look busch league as fuck?

It had aspects of syfy, drama, comedy, improv, and horror amoung other things. Matt was given alot of freedom and I'm not sure any other wrestler has as ever been handed a full showby a company. Granted they were desperate and eventually fucked it up but they did have something. It was reaching its shelf life though and Hardy was starting to evole it when the left and went to ROH.

I keep telling myself that I don't ever want to talk to you about Matt Hardy ever again, but this keeps happening. If you got all of THAT out of the Broken shit, then I feel sorry for YOU.

Matt Hardy: wrestling Shakespeare

Feel sorry all you want man but it was all there.

Google that, there are people that made that type of comparison.

Inbreeding is also a thing.

Duh. Not the point though as it was pertaining to the different genres of entertainment that the Broken gimmick used. Inbreeding is irrelevant but maybe not out of the realm of possibility when it comes to pro wrestling as we've seen.

The money is and always was in Jeff. Matt was a bit better as a singles when they broke up when they were very young, but Jeff soon eclipsed him with ease. Jeff has the it factor, Matt at his best is a good hand and half decent character.

All I know is that when they came back to the WWE, Matt Hardy looked very out of place on the big stage again after all that, while Jeff Hardy seemed like he was above teaming with Matt and should have been brought back on his own.

What he was saying was this:

Just because it's a thing doesn't make it right.

I know what he was saying. I wasn't calling it right either. Destor called him a wrestling Shakespeare and I'd heard it been said before. Hell even the comparisons give Shakespeare his credit. My point was that all those genres were represented in the Broken Saga.

Fan is from my home state of kentucky. We fuck out famlies here. Incest, just like family reunions, are touchy subjects

IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN

I mean orgies

Really though my best friend is fucking his cousin and they advertise it. Weirdest thing I've ever seen.

I know a guy who lost his virginity to his sister

Can't top that, you're more hillbilly I guess.

..... :'(

Kentucky is Westeros.

Its the best worst story ever

HEAR US ROAR

Wildcat does kinda look like a lanister lion...

Destor wasn't being serious, though. I understand what you're trying to say. It just a really fucking silly thing to say.

Also, you guys are gross.

Hey i didn fuck my own sister...

I know he wasn't being serious. My god man. Neither were any of the people that made the comparisons.

When you named yourself simple fan, I thought you meant, like...just a fan. Didn't realize you meant it like...slow.

...yet

Grado and Joseph Park are funnier than Broken too.

Maybe if i get her drunk..?

Not sure how you got me being slow out of that. I completely understand you stance and don't disagree with it totally. It is stupid to have him out there like that without playing off of it. I also understand how some people don't get the gimmick. It's not for everyone but it is everything I've said it its. No its not some great production but it wasn't meant to be. It doesn't bother me that you don't like it but you ignore alot of what I say to suit your narrative. You are actually the guy that gave me the name Simple Fan if you remember.

When or how could I have done that? What did your name used to be?

Sting Fan?

im just a fan. It's quoted when I made the change in the name change request thread. You and road doggy dogg inspired the name.

Nope, don't remember. Glad you're enjoying it, though.

Believe it was in a Confederate flag thread and you said something or the sort: just a fan, just flag, just a shirt. Pretty simple dude. RDD had the Simple Plan lyric that goes I'm just a...., there was also a Lynard Skynard Simple Man reference that I couldn't find at the time I made the request. I was fairly new to the internet at the time and just went with I'm just a fan and it naturally evolved into Simple Fan.

It doesn't matter.

None of this matters.

He had an obviously regrettable "dress up like Shakespeare" phase?!