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#BROKEN Hasney 01-09-2018 05:44 AM

NJPW New Beginning Tour Thread
 
New Japan Pro Wrestling announced the cards for the New Beginnings tour for this month and it looks like a cracker, especially the final Osaka show. Highlights of the headlines are below, along with links to the full card for each night.

<strong>The New Beginning in Sapporo 2018 (Day 1)</strong>
January 27 (English Commentary Available) @ Hokkaido Prefectural Sports Center, Sapporo

Katsuya Kitamura 7-Match Proving Series (Match 2): Katsuya Kitamura vs. Michael Elgin
NEVER Openweight 6-Man Tag Team Championship Match: Bad Luck Fale & Guerrillas of Destiny (c) vs. Togi Makabe, Toa Henare & Ryusuke Taguchi
Jay White & Roppongi 3K vs. The Elite (Omega & Young Bucks)
IWGP Intercontinental Championship Match: Hiroshi Tanahashi (c) vs. Minoru Suzuki
<a href="http://www.njpw.co.jp/tornament/117878?showCards=1">View Full Card</a>

<strong>The New Beginning in Sapporo 2018 (Day 2)</strong>
January 28 (English Commentary Available) @ Hokkaido Prefectural Sports Center, Sapporo

Katsuya Kitamura 7-Match Proving Series (Match 4): Katsuya Kitamura vs. Hiroyoshi Tenzan
David Finlay vs. Jay White
Ten Man Elimination Tag: CHAOS (Okada/Goto/YOSHI-HASHI/Ospreay/Gedo) vs. Los Ingobernables de Japon (Naito/EVIL/SANADA/BUSHI/Hiromu)
<a href="http://www.njpw.co.jp/tornament/117887?showCards=1">View Full Card</a>

<strong>Road to The New Beginning 2018</strong>
February 6 @ Korakuen Hall, Tokyo

Katsuya Kitamura 7-Match Proving Series (Match 5): Katsuya Kitamura vs. Satoshi Kojima
IWGP Tag Team Championship: SANADA & EVIL (c) vs. Kazuchika Okada & Hirooki Goto
<a href="http://www.njpw.co.jp/tornament/117888?showCards=1">View Full Card</a>

<strong>The New Beginning in Osaka 2018</strong>
February 10 (English Commentary Available) @ EDION Arena, Osaka

Katsuya Kitamura 7-Match Proving Series (Match 6): Katsuya Kitamura vs. Yuji Nagata
Gedo vs. BUSHI
Tetsuya Naito vs. YOSHI-HASHI
IWGP Junior Heavyweight Championship: Will Ospreay (c) vs. Hiromu Takahashi
NEVER Openweight Championship: Hirooki Goto (c) vs. EVIL
IWGP Heavyweight Championship: Kazuchika Okada (c) vs. SANADA
<a href="http://www.njpw.co.jp/tornament/117890?showCards=1">View Full Card</a>

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2018 05:49 AM

Pretty good stuff. I'm curious to see how things really work out between Okada and Sanada.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2018 05:52 AM

I've also got no clue whether or not Tanahashi will drop the belt, because he's apparently advertised for ROH's WrestleMania weekend shows.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-09-2018 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5069629)
I've also got no clue whether or not Tanahashi will drop the belt, because he's apparently advertised for ROH's WrestleMania weekend shows.

My god. take some time off and heal, you crazy ace bastard.

Fignuts 01-09-2018 06:22 AM

I've been all in on Sanada since he reinvented himself and joined LIJ. Okada match should be great.

Fignuts 01-09-2018 06:23 AM

Wasn't Tanahashi supposed to get surgery like a fucking year ago?

Fignuts 01-09-2018 06:44 AM

I think creature is a njpw fan now.

Evil Vito 01-09-2018 09:19 AM

Hopefully this will be the last tour for shitbag Elgin.

DaveWadding 01-09-2018 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5069630)
My god. take some time off and heal, you crazy ace bastard.

GO (heal) ACE

Evil Vito 01-09-2018 09:48 AM

Sounds like CMLL are taking Kawato with them after the tour to begin his excursion.

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2018 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5069652)
Hopefully this will be the last tour for shitbag Elgin.

Yeah, I hope he loses. People expect Kanemura to lose a lot of his trial series matches. That's usually the thing, yeah? I can see Tenzan and Kojima winning theirs, but I kind of think they're strapping a rocket onto this guy. But that might be what this trial series, in general, is. I expect big, big things from Kanemura though.

Sanada is, in my opinion, going to be one of their top guys very, very soon. That sounds daft, but I think it will be bigger than people think and sooner than people think.

Ultra Mantis 01-09-2018 01:56 PM

You mean Kitamura? Kanemaru is an older guy from Suzuki-Gun.

I'd expect him to beat Elgin pretty emphatically and go over at least one of the New Japan Dads, Tenzan doesn't really work singles matches anymore so he'd be most likely to take a loss. Cozy and Nagata could go either way.

SANADA is great, his original LIJ look was so much cooler though.

https://pm1.narvii.com/6517/7543e6e3...9202b79_hq.jpg

Mr. Nerfect 01-09-2018 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 5069691)
You mean Kitamura? Kanemaru is an older guy from Suzuki-Gun.

I'd expect him to beat Elgin pretty emphatically and go over at least one of the New Japan Dads, Tenzan doesn't really work singles matches anymore so he'd be most likely to take a loss. Cozy and Nagata could go either way.

SANADA is great, his original LIJ look was so much cooler though.

https://pm1.narvii.com/6517/7543e6e3...9202b79_hq.jpg

Yeah, I did. I just remembered the "mura" part. Actually never heard of Kanemura, I just pulled out a Japanese surname that began with "K." My bad.

Fignuts 01-09-2018 08:00 PM

I like Sanadas current tights, but that weird horned mask isn't as cool as the skull and leather jacket.

Evil Vito 01-15-2018 10:54 PM

Are we gonna treat this as the New Japan thread or should we get one of those started formally?

Evil Vito 01-15-2018 10:54 PM

In any event.....

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Mr. White, that's not wise.

Mr. Nerfect 01-15-2018 10:59 PM

He's trying.

Evil Vito 01-15-2018 11:06 PM

I give him credit for trying. Just not sure there are many good reasons to get a permanent scarfication.

Fignuts 01-15-2018 11:51 PM

Jesus.

Also, there already is a general new japan thread

somewhere

Mr. Nerfect 01-16-2018 12:12 AM

I'm sure he's cool with it, or else he wouldn't have done it.

Tom Guycott 01-16-2018 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5071962)
I give him credit for trying. Just not sure there are many good reasons to get a permanent scarfication.

Maybe he's trying to land in the DC Movieverse as Zsasz.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-16-2018 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5071951)
Are we gonna treat this as the New Japan thread or should we get one of those started formally?

That's about, but there's enough of us now where we can just have threads for major goings on, or for stuff like Jay scarring himself, 100,001 replies or just wherever would work fine.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-25-2018 08:55 AM

Not digging the Rumble so much, but between the first two days of this and NXT, it's going to be a great weekend.

Fignuts 01-25-2018 07:31 PM

Jesus, so much wrestling this weekend. Between all this and DB Fighterz I'm gonna be neck bearding til monday.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-26-2018 09:39 AM

https://i.imgur.com/HgBjwyl.jpg
Derp face

Evil Vito 01-26-2018 11:44 AM

Day 1 tomorrow morning
Takeover tomorrow night
Day 2 Sunday morning
Rumble Sunday night

If it was any other WWE PPV I'd probably just not bother but the Rumble's one of the few things I still want to watch live even if it isn't good.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-26-2018 12:19 PM

Just going to see how tired I am Saturday since Takeover will finish at 3am and then day 2 of New Beginning will be only a couple of hours later. So I'll only watch one live.

Rumble I'll watch while working on Monday.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 02:53 AM

Really shouldn't have been drinking last night, but I'm up. I'm up godammit.

No way am I making it to Takeover tonight.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 03:53 AM

Looks like someone else is a little tranquilo

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#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:07 AM

Great hype video, and here comes the Kitamura in his proving series.

Hope he beats Big Cunt Mike

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:15 AM

Big Mike feeling it like he just told someone to suck his dick or stop talking

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:16 AM

Booo Elgin

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:19 AM

Yessss, always love it when Taichi gets his entrance

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:23 AM

Lyger, Tiger Mask and Kushida are a helluva team.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:30 AM

That Kushida/Taka segment in this match was fantastic. I want a proper match.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:31 AM

Kushida makes Taka tap. Kevin Kelly calls it as triumphing over eeeeviiiiilll, which made me laugh.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:36 AM

The Tokyo Pimp coming out without the bunny. Fuck this.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 04:37 AM

Yano and Ishii seem like they should be a great odd couple team.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 05:01 AM

Damn, Tama Tonga has a submission finisher too now

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 05:06 AM

Marty, Cody and Hangman Page are kind of the elite 2

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 05:12 AM

https://i.imgur.com/51hibx0.gif

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 05:20 AM

Oh, Cody, Marty and Page are the handsome devils of the Bullet Club

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 05:23 AM

Cody just started saying that Kenny Omega is the leader of the Bullet Club. God bless the United States of America and god bless Kenny Omega.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 05:28 AM

Hahaha Naito just spat at Don't missed and hit the lady behind him

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 05:46 AM

Good way to put some story into Naito V Yoshi-Hashi. Since people were asking why have that match, Naito also thinks he's below him and ignores him even attacking him, Yoshi Hashi snaps and beats Naito up and even spits on him.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 07:16 AM

Very much a one match show, but fuck, what a goddamn match it was.

SPOILER: show
Now go heal up for the love of god Tanahashi. And yay, Suzuki IC!

#BROKEN Hasney 01-27-2018 07:54 AM

IC title match winners promo

SPOILER: show
"Hey Tanahashi, what were you saying before the match? You wanted me to bring some fun to this match? Don't make me laugh, you bastard. You may have created a miracle, saving New Japan from going out of business, but that miracle will never happen again. If you ever find strength to stand up again, I'll be there to break you again. You'd better be prepared for that. The only thing that matters is POWER. And you, you wrestling fans of Sapporo, stop applauding like idiots. You guys on commentary, probably yammering that this was some 'great' match. I enjoyed destroying your knee and your ankle. The sounds they made when I was breaking them was like a symphony to my ears. Smush smush. Crack crack. You guys wouldn't know what that would sound like. Only people who have gotten in a ring know have ever experienced something like that. Tanahashi will never wrestle again. This ring is for wrestlers only. We are Suzuki-gun...ICHIBAN."

What a fucking heel.

Innovator 01-27-2018 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5077302)
The Tokyo Pimp coming out without the bunny. Fuck this.

Forever Mao

Jordan 01-27-2018 10:17 AM

I want to see Jericho vs Suzuki

Evil Vito 01-27-2018 04:07 PM

Main event fucking ruled.

Emperor Smeat 01-27-2018 06:48 PM

Got around to watching today's show and Okada developing more of an arrogant and heelish vibe to his character has been pretty interesting.

Suzuki-Tanahashi IC title match was really amazing.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-28-2018 05:09 AM

Day 2 spoilers

SPOILER: show
Kenny may have lost the belt, but

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I'M NOT CRYING YOU'RE CRYING FUCK YOU

#BROKEN Hasney 01-28-2018 05:10 AM

What a beautiful weekend of wrestling so far. I'm almost positive on the Rumble right now.

Evil Vito 01-28-2018 11:16 AM

Be still my beating heart :heart:

hb2k 01-28-2018 11:17 AM

The closing scene of Day 2 was so tremendous. Not sure if I agree with the outcome of the main event, but that's a whole other issue...

Jordan 01-28-2018 01:56 PM

I actually liked the way Jay went over, it was a solid finishing sequence. Really good match too. The final scene was also really nice and a great step forward for Kenny and Kota.

Evil Vito 01-28-2018 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb2k (Post 5077821)
Not sure if I agree with the outcome of the main event, but that's a whole other issue...

I actually think it's a good idea.

SPOILER: show
Given the story that's been told, I don't think Kenny/Cody really needs the US Title on the line. Cody's been questioning Kenny's leadership for pretty much the entire time he's been in Bullet Club and he challenged Ibushi for Wrestle Kingdom seemingly just to get under Kenny's skin.

Maybe their eventual match will be tied with a loser leaves the Bullet Club stip. A lot of people are taking this angle as Kenny's already been booted out but if that were the case I think they all would've partook in beating down Kenny. I actually thought that's what was coming when Kenny shoved down Matt Jackson.

As it was though only Hangman Page seemed like he was actively siding with Cody, helping to hold him up for the chair attack. The Bucks seemed annoyed at Kenny in the moment but mostly just wanted Kenny and Cody to sort their shit, and Marty Scurll was actively trying to play peacemaker the whole time.

I'd have to guess Marty and the Bucks will formally turn on Kenny before long. Losing Marty and the Bucks would pretty much kill Bullet Club and seeing how much Bullet Club merch those guys are still selling, I can't see that happening.

Kenny will get a new line of merch for Hot Topic and it'll work out. He'll have a few big tag matches with Ibushi, and for multi-man tags he'll probably get teamed with the Taguchi Japan guys since that's pretty much just an open door "stable" for people not affiliated with the four main groups.

As for Jay White, I'm guessing Hangman will be his first challenger. Hangman's not really done anything other than tag matches in New Japan as best I can tell, but if he's gonna be in "The Elite" portion of the stable it'd be best to get him some exposure in singles matches.

Fignuts 01-28-2018 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb2k (Post 5077821)
The closing scene of Day 2 was so tremendous. Not sure if I agree with the outcome of the main event, but that's a whole other issue...

SPOILER: show

If you would have told me before the event that Jay was going over, I would have had reservations on whether it was a good idea, but he totally won me over with that performance. If he continues to deliver like that, then he's worthy of dethroning Omega.

Also, god damn, at that closing angle. Isn't long term booking a god damn beautiful fucking thing?


#BROKEN Hasney 01-28-2018 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5077941)
SPOILER: show

If you would have told me before the event that Jay was going over, I would have had reservations on whether it was a good idea, but he totally won me over with that performance. If he continues to deliver like that, then he's worthy of dethroning Omega.

Also, god damn, at that closing angle. Isn't long term booking a god damn beautiful fucking thing?


Totally agree on all this.

SPOILER: show
Any man who hits Tazzmissionplexes has my love. And that counter into Blade runner out of the OWA was beautiful

#BROKEN Hasney 01-29-2018 10:10 AM

I didn't catch that Ibushi was crying actual tears when I was watching live.

What a beautiful man.

https://i.imgur.com/MAlx8xr.gif

#BROKEN Hasney 01-29-2018 10:38 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUsqpkWVoAEoTES?format=jpg
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Emperor Smeat 01-29-2018 06:40 PM

Seems Tanahashi might finally get the rest time he desperately needs since Observer reported NJPW is currently considering having him out till the G1.

Jordan 01-29-2018 07:38 PM

Wow Golden Lovers? That sounds pretty.......

#BROKEN Hasney 01-30-2018 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5079359)
Wow Golden Lovers? That sounds pretty.......

Their finisher was the Golden Shower

https://78.media.tumblr.com/44c4bea7...qhy1r2_400.gif

#BROKEN Hasney 01-30-2018 03:48 AM

Kinda love how we get storyline through this

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Also Ibushi's fashion is on point

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUvkTwuVoAEwwV5.jpg:large

Fignuts 01-30-2018 08:02 AM

Fuck yeah, Bullet Club Wolfpac.

Feel like the Tongans are already their own faction. Wonder where they'll fit in with all this.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-30-2018 08:17 AM

I'm not fully sure what's going to happen. Hangman and Cody could leave, or Kenny could be kicked out with maybe one or more of the other guys, or GoD and Fale could just take this over.

I love how they're playing this storyline. I wonder how much involvement Gedo and Jado have in it, because they clearly have to be clued in.

Fignuts 01-30-2018 08:21 AM

I mean I've said for a while that I'd like to see the Tongans and Fale break off and form their own faction. They've always had their own unique vibe.

And it's time for Tama to step up. He proved in the G1 he's got the chops to be a serious singles contender. I would start him off with dethroning Goto somewhere down the line.

Evil Vito 01-30-2018 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5079699)
I love how they're playing this storyline. I wonder how much involvement Gedo and Jado have in it, because they clearly have to be clued in.

I can't remember if it was Kenny or Cody who said it first - but apparently the first sign of tension between the two of them (when Kenny won the US Title I believe) was something they did on their own. And they did it just to give Gedo something to work with if he ever decided it was time to split up the Club or move Kenny onto something else since they could see a major face push in the offing.

#BROKEN Hasney 01-30-2018 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5079709)
I can't remember if it was Kenny or Cody who said it first - but apparently the first sign of tension between the two of them (when Kenny won the US Title I believe) was something they did on their own. And they did it just to give Gedo something to work with if he ever decided it was time to split up the Club or move Kenny onto something else since they could see a major face push in the offing.

Oh, neat. I'm guessing at this point he's laid out what the plans are to them all going forward and they're just filling in the gaps.

Evil Vito 01-30-2018 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5079702)
I mean I've said for a while that I'd like to see the Tongans and Fale break off and form their own faction. They've always had their own unique vibe.

And it's time for Tama to step up. He proved in the G1 he's got the chops to be a serious singles contender. I would start him off with dethroning Goto somewhere down the line.

Yeah, I didn't watch the post-show stuff but apparently Tama said he can see where things are going and if club leadership fragments again he's not going to bother taking orders from anyone else. So it sure looks like there will be some sort of divide.

Evil Vito 01-30-2018 08:42 AM

During the G1 press conference, Tama went on an impassioned speech about how important Bullet Club is and you could see Kenny behind him almost being like "jesus dude, I'm the leader and not even I care about the group this much"

Which neatly played into Kenny and Tama's match

Mr. Nerfect 01-30-2018 09:07 AM

SPOILER: show
Jay White as the US Champion is interesting. I suppose he needed something.

Evil Vito 01-31-2018 11:30 PM

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That ending :eek:

Volare 02-01-2018 09:15 PM

Elite vs BC. Cody vs Omega.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-02-2018 05:50 AM

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Simple Fan 02-02-2018 12:05 PM

Latest episode of Being the Elite hinted at Cody vs Kenny Omega at Suoercard of Honor. Nick Jackson had a PREMONITION.


#BROKEN Hasney 02-02-2018 06:18 PM

Marty Scurll is amazing and I think Cody is auditioning to be a boss in Yakuza 7 with this look.

Simple Fan 02-02-2018 06:36 PM

He's doing some filming for something that requires it according to his twitter. Says he'll change it back once filming wraps but he's starting to like it.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-02-2018 06:51 PM

Its not just the hair, but that combined with the big fur jacket and the cigars

#BROKEN Hasney 02-03-2018 03:51 AM

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This is the best stable split ever

Evil Vito 02-03-2018 11:38 AM

Pro Wrestling Tees is not taking the Bullet Club split well

#BROKEN Hasney 02-03-2018 12:04 PM

lol, that has to be staged. He could make even more if there were 2 or 3 popular groups.

Simple Fan 02-03-2018 12:27 PM

Really digging it to. Tama really should be the next leader of Bullet Club and he's ready. Should also crash the Cody/Kenny Supercard of Honor match and just fuck shit up.

Mr. Nerfect 02-03-2018 05:42 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't care for all this Bullet Club shit? I guess you have to do it to change the groups, but it's not very interesting.

Evil Vito 02-03-2018 08:07 PM

Noid isn't interested in something related to modern wrestling. News at 11.

Mr. Nerfect 02-03-2018 08:24 PM

That's a gross misrepresentation of my point for convenience, but suit yourself. I am extremely interested in where Minoru Suzuki goes, for example. I'm interested in the development of The Velveteen Dream. And I am actually kind of excited about WrestleMania this year. I just don't find Kenny Omega vs. Cody Rhodes that bloody exciting, because one feels like a goof and the other a geek.

Evil Vito 02-03-2018 09:40 PM

I can't imagine why you'd wouldn't be able to take Kenny Omega seriously. I guess you must find him corny.

Evil Vito 02-03-2018 09:41 PM

You do have me now imagining a Suzuki vs Dream match and now though, god damn talk about a personality clash.

Simple Fan 02-03-2018 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5081404)
Am I the only one who doesn't care for all this Bullet Club shit? I guess you have to do it to change the groups, but it's not very interesting.

What about Tama? I'll give you the Kenny/Cody stuff as its seemed like a given since Cody joined but Tama's development and rise is the most interesting part of this split to me.

Evil Vito 02-04-2018 01:18 AM

Tama's really underrated and he and Fale are the only two true Bullet Club originals left. If the Tongans do fraction off into their own group it'd kinda be a shame if they couldn't take the Bullet Club name with them.

My gut instinct is still that the Bucks and Scurll turn on Kenny at Supercard and they, Cody, and Hangman would formally continue on as The Elite with or without the rest of Bullet Club. But we'll see.

Emperor Smeat 02-04-2018 02:36 AM

Bullet Club splitting into The Elite and Bullet Club Lite makes a lot of sense. If they split along the current ROH and NJPW lines, its almost an even split in members.

In terms of merch power, BC takes a huge but could potentially offset those losses with The Elite.

Mr. Nerfect 02-04-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5081471)
I can't imagine why you'd wouldn't be able to take Kenny Omega seriously. I guess you must find him corny.

It's his facial expressions. He's such a bad actor, haha. It's off-putting and weird. Takes me out, and part of the job is to draw people in, so he doesn't do it for me. He's great at other things, but he's just not the complete package for me.

Mr. Nerfect 02-04-2018 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Simple Fan (Post 5081485)
What about Tama? I'll give you the Kenny/Cody stuff as its seemed like a given since Cody joined but Tama's development and rise is the most interesting part of this split to me.

I haven't seen enough of him to comment. Recommend any good Tama matches?

Moose Knuckle 02-04-2018 12:26 PM

His match against Kenny Omega in the G1 climax was great.

Mr. Nerfect 02-04-2018 05:44 PM

I'll go check it out at some point in the next few days.

Simple Fan 02-04-2018 08:35 PM

Just check out as much of the G1 that you can. I thought Tama had good matches against everyone but Yano.

#BROKEN Hasney 02-06-2018 01:43 AM

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Woah! Language!

#BROKEN Hasney 02-08-2018 02:04 AM

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#BROKEN Hasney 02-09-2018 09:30 AM

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This is my favourite rivalry of all time. I'm in tears.


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