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slik 02-25-2018 02:36 PM

John Cena *Rumor* Possible Scoop - WrestleMania
 
Things I've picked up from PostWrestling and DirtySheets...

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After Cena loses tonight he will not immediately begin a program w/ Undertaker just yet.

Cena will challenge Shinsuke for his #1 contender spot at WM at FastLane (Cena is advertised for the show). After that he will begin his road to WrestleMania and begin a program with The Undertaker


mike adamle 02-25-2018 03:25 PM

Damn, was hoping for a little buildup to the Cena-Taker match.

Jordan 02-25-2018 03:26 PM

As long as Nakamaura looks strong going in against AJ I'll be happy, but it seems likely that Taker will somehow "cost" Cena his "chance" to "main event" Wrestlemania.

Sixx 02-25-2018 03:27 PM

Damn, was hoping there would be no Taker match at all.

I mean, come the fuck on. Streak is over, Taker winning wouldn't mean shit. Cena winning wouldn't mean shit either. There's nothing to gain from this.

Jordan 02-25-2018 03:28 PM

Rumor is that Taker is on DDP's Yoga and may do another 2-3 WM matches. :\

Sixx 02-25-2018 03:31 PM

Oh, for fuck's sake.

Why would you help him DDP? He wouldn't let you be happy with his wife.

Lock Jaw 02-25-2018 04:35 PM

What a scoop!

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slik 02-25-2018 05:44 PM

It's not certain Taker is doing DDP Yoga b/c they have 'heat' for some reason, just 'doing yoga' in general.

Ruien 02-25-2018 05:48 PM

Want Cena to win one of the major belts and beat Flairs streak :(

slik 02-25-2018 05:49 PM

Cena winning a belt at WM and tying Flair is definitely a WM worthy storyline

DAMN iNATOR 02-25-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5088467)
Cena winning a belt at WM and tying Flair is definitely a WM worthy storyline

He's already at 16.

Ruien 02-25-2018 05:57 PM

Ya. He will beat it with his next title. Maybe they want to save it for next year since Brock will probably be gone. It will be the huge draw. Probably lose a couple times at ppvs leading into next Mania with the storyline asking if Cena has lost it and is only a shell of himself.

mike adamle 02-25-2018 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5088420)
As long as Nakamaura looks strong going in against AJ I'll be happy, but it seems likely that Taker will somehow "cost" Cena his "chance" to "main event" Wrestlemania.

Would be cool if Shinsuke had a program defending the WWE title against The Undertaker after WrestleMania if taker could stick around.

#1-norm-fan 02-25-2018 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5088463)
It's not certain Taker is doing DDP Yoga b/c they have 'heat' for some reason, just 'doing yoga' in general.

Maybe Taker is doing DDP yoga on his own without DDP's blessing/permission.

#1-norm-fan 02-25-2018 11:39 PM

As far as the rumor, it would be interesting to see if Nakamura can do the unthinkable and defeat John Cena like no man is capable of ever doing. Would be HUGE.

Jordan 02-25-2018 11:45 PM

Roman is a great Hogan style baby face if they can churn out enough heels to make it interesting.

owenbrown 02-26-2018 12:19 AM


Droford 02-26-2018 03:16 PM

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Ol Dirty Dastard 02-26-2018 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5088463)
It's not certain Taker is doing DDP Yoga b/c they have 'heat' for some reason, just 'doing yoga' in general.

I would surmise it's because Taker sewerfucked him re:The Invasion

mike adamle 02-26-2018 04:14 PM

I've gotta feeling they're gonna make Taker-Cena a career vs. career match after that promo by Cena after the PPV.

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2018 04:23 PM

Then if Taker loses, he can symbolically lay more clothing in the ring on his way out.

Then again when he returns next year.

slik 02-26-2018 04:34 PM

UnderWearTaker will return for WM35 then

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2018 04:35 PM

lol TakerLover randomly showing up to view this thread right now.

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2018 04:40 PM

Cena taking the title from Lesnar to break the record at Wrestlemania would have been awesome. Given their history and given the fact that Cena is way more likable than Reigns, it would be a cool moment instead of WWE just acting like it is.

mike adamle 02-26-2018 04:40 PM

I've already said it a few times, but Taker left his gloves in the ring after Mania 32. He left his gloves, jacket, and hat at Mania 33. This year he's gonna strip naked after his match.

Rammsteinmad 02-26-2018 04:54 PM

Does TakerItEasy still post here?

Droford 02-26-2018 05:38 PM

Cena going to be too busy promoting Cock Blockers to be at WM anyway

OverTaker 02-26-2018 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mike adamle (Post 5089166)
I've already said it a few times, but Taker left his gloves in the ring after Mania 32. He left his gloves, jacket, and hat at Mania 33. This year he's gonna strip naked after his match.

You want Dong!

OverTaker 02-26-2018 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 5089169)
Does TakerItEasy still post here?

Since the bad news. He is takering it hard.

#1-norm-fan 02-26-2018 06:32 PM

Making everyone wait for the dong joke. TakerLover's a Goddamn showman.

Gerard 02-26-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5088424)
Rumor is that Taker is on DDP's Yoga and may do another 2-3 WM matches. :\

Is that going to magically make him not require an oxygen tank after 5 minutes?

Funny thing is undertaker said the same thing about hogan years back that if he was his age he probably wouldn't be doing what hogan is, he's now several years older than hogan was at the time and still seems to want to wrestle, despite his last few matches being a combination of dogshit and botches.

Emperor Smeat 02-26-2018 07:15 PM

Assuming they actually do Cena-Taker, its going to undo the rub WWE wanted for Reigns all because Vince sucks at actual long term plans and payoffs. Same for undoing the farewell moment at the end of Mania because Taker and WWE refuses to stick to it being his retirement.

The original plan was leaning towards Cena-Taker last year and Reigns-Taker this year with the idea of this year being Taker's retirement and Reigns getting another big rub for his mega stardom. Instead Vince/WWE panicked and rushed the Reigns match early but didn't follow through with the rest of the plans.

mike adamle 02-26-2018 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerard (Post 5089190)
Is that going to magically make him not require an oxygen tank after 5 minutes?

Funny thing is undertaker said the same thing about hogan years back that if he was his age he probably wouldn't be doing what hogan is, he's now several years older than hogan was at the time and still seems to want to wrestle, despite his last few matches being a combination of dogshit and botches.

His last few matches have been pretty great. On par with his matches with HBK, Triple H, & CM Punk? No. But they weren't dogshit by any means.

slik 02-26-2018 09:03 PM

See my first post in this thread....



Quote:

After Cena loses tonight he will not immediately begin a program w/ Undertaker just yet.

Cena will challenge Shinsuke for his #1 contender spot at WM at FastLane (Cena is advertised for the show). After that he will begin his road to WrestleMania and begin a program with The Undertaker


mike adamle 02-26-2018 10:13 PM

How many times in how many threads are you going to post that?

rockman725 02-27-2018 03:13 AM

The more I think about it, the more I come to the possibility of another "End Of An Era" match, where the previous one referenced the Attitude Era, this one will reference the Ruthless Aggression Era.

"Dr. of Thuganomics" John Cena vs. "Dead Man Inc" Undertaker

As I stated last week, I see this more as a special attraction match rather than a storyline based match.

Almost feel that Angle should be the guest referee for this, but after seeing the end of Raw, I guess it will be him & Ronda against H's and Steph after-all.

Sixx 02-27-2018 03:16 AM

Fuck this. Taker, you got Michelle McCool at home, so why don't you stay there and fuck her?

You keep coming back, soon you won't be able to do just that.

Rammsteinmad 02-27-2018 06:09 AM

How many end-of-an-era one-last-run send offs can someone have?

Sixx 02-27-2018 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 5089678)
How many end-of-an-era one-last-run send offs can someone have?

Taker's goal seems to be hitting double digits.

Vastardikai 02-27-2018 07:02 AM

I would be alright with it if, and only IF, we get a crotchety Undertaker. Who is just pissed off at being summoned or called out or whatever. His whole angle being "I keep trying to retire, but you keep calling me back. Do I have to strip naked in the ring to get my point across? I am done, leave me alone."

From there, he tells Cena that he doesn't need a marquis opponent, he should BE the marquis opponent. Then rip into him for making the same mistakes as Flair and Hogan.

DAMN iNATOR 02-27-2018 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5089675)
Fuck this. Taker, you got Michelle McCool at home, so why don't you stay there and fuck her?

You keep coming back, soon you won't be able to do just that.

He said last night on RAW that he will not be fighting 'Taker. He'll be on SD! tonight to reveal his "path" to WM 34 (allegedly).

Sixx 02-27-2018 07:20 AM

Yeah, they often say one thing and do something different eventually. Also, if not Cena, I bet they got some other thoughts for Taker. MEh.

Rammsteinmad 02-27-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5089680)
I would be alright with it if, and only IF, we get a crotchety Undertaker. Who is just pissed off at being summoned or called out or whatever. His whole angle being "I keep trying to retire, but you keep calling me back. Do I have to strip naked in the ring to get my point across? I am done, leave me alone."

From there, he tells Cena that he doesn't need a marquis opponent, he should BE the marquis opponent. Then rip into him for making the same mistakes as Flair and Hogan.

That wouldn't be too bad to be honest, but I'd rather see it after a lengthy retirement first. Maybe if he can still go he can come back in a few years time. As it is, year in and year out... it's just another match now.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-27-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5088466)
Want Cena to win one of the major belts and beat Flairs streak :(

If he wins the Universal Title it doesn't count as a World Title.

Evil Vito 02-27-2018 09:46 AM

I would like it if Cena got evermore increasingly desperate and they just did a bunch of skits of him trying to goad people into fights. Eventually he has to resort to throwing food at Curt Hawkins or something.

Luigi 02-27-2018 11:23 AM

I have been a wrestling fan for over 20 years and so I believe that I am more qualified than the average fan to express my opinion. I think the WWE are making a mistake by doing a Taker vs. Cena match. I don't know what either wrestler would get out of this. If this match does take place however, I think Undertaker will actually defeat Cena at Wrestlemania. Cena would then permanently retire the Undertaker at another PPV.

Lock Jaw 02-27-2018 11:27 AM

Thank you for telling us your qualifications before posting.

Loose Cannon 02-27-2018 12:06 PM

we're going to have to have proof on those credentials.

#1-norm-fan 02-27-2018 02:26 PM

Hope the "letting everyone know my credentials before every post" thing is a gimmick. Love it.

A.J.K 02-28-2018 05:14 PM

And now Rey Mysterio vs John Cena is being Rumored for Wrestlemania.

Sixx 02-28-2018 05:19 PM

Please no.

#1-norm-fan 02-28-2018 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5089696)
If he wins the Universal Title it doesn't count as a World Title.

lol Fuck off.

Droford 02-28-2018 07:10 PM

The Mysterio Cena thing has been fully debunked. Wouldn't have made any sense anyway

Fignuts 02-28-2018 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 5090150)
Please no.

I would have liked to have seen it. A lot more than cena vs taker. Dunno if you watched the rumble, but Mysterio looks amazing now. Way better shape than when he was in WWE

Fignuts 02-28-2018 07:24 PM

Honestly, if anyone deserves a part time schedule, its Mysterio. He's given so much of himself to the business. Additionaly he's still a big enough name to be a draw, and the whole reason he's in such phenomenal shape is because he hasn't been on a rigorous wwe schedule.

Just seems like a no brainer to give him what he wants, and then rake in all the inevitable merch sales that rey always generates.

#1-norm-fan 02-28-2018 07:25 PM

Taker-Cena would be cool for the spectacle at least. Cena-Mysterio would probably be a fine match but Mysterio isn't a big enough deal to warrant it. It would feel like a complete throwaway match.

Fignuts 02-28-2018 07:28 PM

I dunno, if they built it up right, they could make it more meanigful than it looks on paper. Didn't Cena and Mysterio debut in the WWE around the same time? Maybe build off of that.

Fignuts 02-28-2018 07:29 PM

That of course assumes WWE is still capable of building to matches in a meaningful way.

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2018 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5090197)
Taker-Cena would be cool for the spectacle at least. Cena-Mysterio would probably be a fine match but Mysterio isn't a big enough deal to warrant it. It would feel like a complete throwaway match.

Could see Rey-Cena be as big or maybe even bigger if WWE taps into the Hispanic market with Rey.

Cena-Taker is bigger in terms of hype or dream status but they can make a ton more money off of Rey-Cena if they played their cards straight with that market.

With how few weeks are left in this year's Road to Mania, both of those potential matches are getting the throwaway treatment anyways considering the lack of build time and nobody likely getting any real lasting rub from it.

Lock Jaw 02-28-2018 07:49 PM

Remember when Rey won the "WWE Title" in a tournament on RAW, and then Cena came out and challenged and beat him after Rey already had two or three matches?

Fignuts 02-28-2018 07:55 PM

I think 5 or 6 years ago Taker vs Cena would be bigger than Rey vs Cena could ever hope to be. But now, the spectacle has lost a lot of its magic, in large part dud to Takers age and limitations in the ring.

He lost a log of the mgic with the steak ending, and every poor match hes had since has taken a little more each time. Reigns match was probably the best one, and even that was just okay.

#1-norm-fan 02-28-2018 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5090212)
Could see Rey-Cena be as big or maybe even bigger if WWE taps into the Hispanic market with Rey.

Cena-Taker is bigger in terms of hype or dream status but they can make a ton more money off of Rey-Cena if they played their cards straight with that market.

With how few weeks are left in this year's Road to Mania, both of those potential matches are getting the throwaway treatment anyways considering the lack of build time and nobody likely getting any real lasting rub from it.

It wouldn't be about giving someone a rub anyway. It wouldn't be ideal but Cena-Taker would be fine on short build considering their statuses in the company.

Rey could draw in the Hispanic market but you can do that with any return match he has. To have a match with Cena, I think Rey would need to be properly re-introduced and hyped a little first and there just isn't time for that.

Fignuts 02-28-2018 07:59 PM

I dont think rey's been gone so long that youd need more time than they have to build him up. People still remember who he is and tbat hes a big deal.

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2018 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5090222)
I dont think rey's been gone so long that youd need more time than they have to build him up. People still remember who he is and tbat hes a big deal.

Yeah the pop he got at both the Rumble and in Japan during a NJPW show just for the tease of a future appearance is enough to prove he barely needs any time to have his star power rebuilt.

He's one of the very few legit worldwide stars where his name alone is enough to generate a ton of interest regardless where it happens.

#1-norm-fan 02-28-2018 08:23 PM

He's never been treated as a star on the Cena/Taker level by WWE though. Hence his big return after years away being just a random rumble appearance. People know he's a big deal in wrestling but he's just under megastar level in WWE. It would be... weird.

Like if Jericho randomly came back and faced Cena it would be cool from a wrestling standpoint but it would also be odd from the standpoint of Cena being a guy who should either be facing a young main eventer or having a dream match against a legend at Mania and Jericho just doesn't really seem... there...

mike adamle 02-28-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5090212)
Could see Rey-Cena be as big or maybe even bigger if WWE taps into the Hispanic market with Rey.

Cena-Taker is bigger in terms of hype or dream status but they can make a ton more money off of Rey-Cena if they played their cards straight with that market.

With how few weeks are left in this year's Road to Mania, both of those potential matches are getting the throwaway treatment anyways considering the lack of build time and nobody likely getting any real lasting rub from it.

What the fuck do you mean it could make more money than taker-cena "if they play their cards right with the Hispanic market?"

Are they gonna have Cena shit on Mexico and talk about supporting the border wall until Rey Mysterio comes back to save the day/country?

What the fuck are you even talking about dude?

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2018 08:38 PM

:wtf:

Umm no. They just cater to the market with Rey to get the huge merch sales and interest from it just like they did in the past when he was in the company. Its why they've been desperate for years at having another Rey-like star but failing with Del Rio, Sin Cara, and Kalisto.

Its also why when Rey was on Smackdown during the UPN/CW days, he helped bring in a huge Hispanic market for the show.

Fignuts 02-28-2018 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 5090230)
He's never been treated as a star on the Cena/Taker level by WWE though. Hence his big return after years away being just a random rumble appearance. People know he's a big deal in wrestling but he's just under megastar level in WWE. It would be... weird.

Like if Jericho randomly came back and faced Cena it would be cool from a wrestling standpoint but it would also be odd from the standpoint of Cena being a guy who should either be facing a young main eventer or having a dream match against a legend at Mania and Jericho just doesn't really seem... there...

I'm not saying Rey's as big a star as them. I just think that in 2018, Cena vs Rey means more. Taker being the broken down mess that he is, you'd be having the match just for the sake of having it, despite how bad it would likely turn out.

At least with Rey you have the story of Rey remaking himself for one last big mania moment, in match that would likely be stellar.

I just don't think the spectacle of taker vs cena is that special anymore. They missed their window.

Fignuts 02-28-2018 09:43 PM

Have taker be the special guest time keeper for the match. That way you get the mania taker entrance, which is all anyone actually cares about anymore.

Fignuts 02-28-2018 09:43 PM

Instead of a clock he uses an hour glass.

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2018 09:49 PM

Supposedly Cena vs Samoa Joe is a rumored option on the table if Taker-Cena doesn't happen according to Sports Illustrated although they've been shaky recently for reliability.

#1-norm-fan 02-28-2018 10:10 PM

I wanted Cena vs Joe last year. Could have been a great story of Joe being the indy guy who never got his opportunity while Cena was "handed the world". Even bringing in a little indy stable to all take their turns at Cena before they finally face at WrestleMania. Rather not see it rushed though now.

slik 02-28-2018 11:49 PM

I'm thinking the SI dude is full of shit.

Pretty much ever other insider says Taker/Cena is still on and the SI dude has a horrible track record. But time will tell...

Fignuts 03-01-2018 12:00 AM

yay wrestlemania

so excited

Sixx 03-01-2018 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 5090196)
Honestly, if anyone deserves a part time schedule, its Mysterio. He's given so much of himself to the business. Additionaly he's still a big enough name to be a draw, and the whole reason he's in such phenomenal shape is because he hasn't been on a rigorous wwe schedule.

Just seems like a no brainer to give him what he wants, and then rake in all the inevitable merch sales that rey always generates.

I'm not saying that's not true. I'm only saying I personally don't want to see him again. He might draw, he might sell merch, I dunno, I'm just sick of the guy.

Fignuts 03-01-2018 12:58 AM

I can understand that.

Having grown up in the 90's and the oversaturation of symbiotes in Spider-Man comics, I am permanently sick of Venom. No matter what they do with the character, or how long it is since I've seen him, I always feel sick of him.

Luigi 03-01-2018 01:05 AM

I’m not sure if Rey Mysterio has much to offer at this point. He was never a huge attraction like The Rock, Undertaker, Brock, etc., to warrant having him come back on a part-time basis...and taking away TV time from younger guys trying to establish themselves.

I don’t mind Rey Mysterio having “one-off” matches maybe once or twice a year, but I don’t think it’s in the WWE’s best interests to offer him a part-time contract. Cena vs Mysterio would be a complete and utter waste. I also don’t want to see Undertaker ever wrestle again FTR.

Cena calling out Steve Austin? NOW we’re talking.

I think Undertaker challenging Strowman could be interesting if the WWE are interested in having Taker wrestle again. Have Taker get a fluke victory over Strowman at Mania....after having been dominated.....and then have Strowman defeat and retire the Undertaker at the next PPV. This accomplishes two things:

1) it shows that Taker has heart and never says die.
2) you put Strowman over in a big way by having him be the one to retire Taker.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2018 01:22 AM

I love the Luigi gimmick.

Mr. Nerfect 03-01-2018 01:22 AM

Would rather see Cena and Mysterio team up, to be honest. Send them after one set of tag straps.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-01-2018 08:00 AM

Luigi is definitely Heyman

Luigi 03-01-2018 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead (Post 5090363)
Luigi is definitely Heyman

You might be Crash Holly. Am I doing this right? :wtf:


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