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#BROKEN Hasney 03-27-2018 05:53 AM

NJPW Sakura Genesis - April 1st
 
QUITE THE CARD

http://www.njpw.co.jp/wp-content/upl...okada_zack.jpg

OKADA V ZSJ FOR THE IWGP TITLE SPONSORED BY BODY RECOVERY BECAUSE OKADA WILL NEED IT

http://www.njpw.co.jp/wp-content/upl.../03/0401_8.jpg

THE GOLDEN LOVERS VS. THE BULLET CLUB IS MINE... I MEAN FINE

http://www.njpw.co.jp/wp-content/upl.../0401_7_Jr.jpg

BATTLE OF BRITAIN TO DETERMINE WHO WILL FACE REY REY... AND ALSO THE IWGP JR. TITLE

http://www.njpw.co.jp/wp-content/upl..._IWGPJrtag.jpg

3 WAY CLUSTERFUCK FOR THE JR TAG TITLES

http://www.njpw.co.jp/wp-content/upl.../03/0401_5.jpg

LIJ IS FINE LIKE EVIL'S EYE V SUZUKI-GUN

http://www.njpw.co.jp/wp-content/upl.../03/0401_4.jpg

WE GOTTA GET THESE FUCKS ON THE CARD #1 FEAT. JUICE ROBINSON GOING FOR THE NEVERWEIGHT BELT AFTER THIS PROBABLY

http://www.njpw.co.jp/wp-content/upl...1_3_NEVER6.jpg

WE GOTTA GET THESE FUCKS AND THE SEX OFFENCE COVER UP MAN WE RE-SIGNED ON THE CARD #2 VS. THIS HALF OF THE BULLET CLUB IS ACTUALLY FINE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE 6 MAN BELT IS ON THE LINE OR NOT

Fignuts 03-27-2018 07:34 AM

Hell of a card

hb2k 03-27-2018 07:46 AM

So what we thinking for the finish - Okada submits the submission master with the Cobra Clutch?

#BROKEN Hasney 03-27-2018 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hb2k (Post 5099103)
So what we thinking for the finish - Okada submits the submission master with the Cobra Clutch?

Of course. I feel like this whole thing has been designed to get the cobra clutch over.

Innovator 03-27-2018 10:17 AM

Rainmaker hit then the Cobra Clutch

Evil Vito 03-27-2018 10:25 AM

Yujiro and Bushi are definitely winning the Jr Tag belts to leave Naito as the only LIJ member without gold. I'm fairly certain Kanemaru and Desperado only won the belts so that Yoh and Sho wouldn't have to drop them to LIJ directly.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-27-2018 01:04 PM

2 other matches were added

* Chase Owens and Yujiro Takahashi vs. The Young Bucks
* Toru Yano and Tomohiro Ishii vs. Taichi and Takashi Iizuka

THE BULLET CLUB IS FINE

Innovator 03-27-2018 02:24 PM

Yujiro has no idea what is going on

slik 03-27-2018 02:24 PM

How many big shows does NJPW do a year?

Jordan 03-27-2018 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5099181)
How many big shows does NJPW do a year?

It's not really a set schedule like WWE. They do have weekly TV but not a show like Raw or Smackdown. I have a lot of trouble understanding exactly the way NJPW thrives since it's TV is on at like 2am. But basically there are like 8 big shows with branded titles like WrestleKingdom or Dominion etc... and they usually have a few build up shows that are sometimes on New Japan World or PPV. Example, The New Japan Cup shows were a lead in to build Strong Style Evolved which was a lead in build PPV for Sakura Genesis.

I think what would define a major show would be a title defense.

Then you go into G-1 which is a tournament and they have like 16 show and like half of them are considered major shows.

Jordan 03-27-2018 02:53 PM

Actually here is some more on the topic, copied from Reddit.

Quote:

NJPW doesn't have a weekly episodic show like WWE, and most Japanese companies are the same way. Their closest thing is World Pro-Wrestling Returns, which airs on AXS TV and Fight Network, but is about nine or ten months behind, and it's cherry-picked matches from NJPW PPVs with dubbed English commentary. That's also what's on Japanese television (but less delayed), albeit without such commentary.

NJPW runs lots of untelevised house shows, but as far as Western fans are concerned, the shows we get to see are the ones that are shown on NJPW's "Network" NJPW World. A schedule can be found on /r/NJPW. The next show is the Super J-Cup Finals on August 21st.

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[–]GeoffSpelledCorrectPuro Supremacy 2 points 1 year ago
Piggy Backing along what Evan said, NJPW does nearly full production shows that air on NJPW World nearly every week, so that'll give you your fill on NJPW. Like Evan said next full production show is Super J-Cup on August 21st. Then NJPW Lion's Gate (Their version of NXT) on September 1st. Then a Road to Destruction show on September 4th. Then a Korakuen Hall show on September 11th. Then Destruction in Tokyo on September 17th, Destruction in Hiroshima on September 22nd, and Destruction in Kobe on September 25th. After the flury of big shows, you get King of Pro Wrestling in Sumo Hall on October 10th.

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[–]Jaymii 15 points 1 year ago
They have two types of shows... "Road To... [PPV Name]" shows and main "event/PPV" type shows.

Unlike normal house shows, match ups and minor story progression can happen on the "Road To..." shows but you mostly just need to see the main event shows to understand what's going on. They also don't have commentary on the house shows.

They regularly do tournaments, which are normally tournament matches mixed into the untelevised house shows.

Storylines are essentially people calling people out at the end of their matches or someone else coming out and saying they want a match.

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Jordan 03-27-2018 03:10 PM

I'm pretty confiden that Zack Sabre and Okada are going to have a match like we've never seen before. There's something about Zack, he's carved out a niche that nobody else can fill. I never once considered him a heavyweight, but he's been gaining some weight. It's going to be worth staying up for.

Jordan 03-27-2018 03:11 PM

Also we get to see Cody vs Kenny

Innovator 03-27-2018 03:44 PM

I want a music video of Zack and Minoru Suzuki stretching people together set to Father and Son by Cat Stevens

Mr. Nerfect 03-27-2018 07:19 PM

ZSJ has been getting tremendous reviews. I didn't really get on board with what I saw in the CWC, but it sounds like he has had a fire lit under him since then.

Jordan 03-27-2018 08:18 PM

He's got something different at heavyweight, his control is awesome. You have to wrestle his style match I guess unless you just bulldoze him and don't get caught with a counter.

Mr. Nerfect 03-27-2018 08:49 PM

His holds and chain-wrestling looks really good. It was his selling that really threw me off during the CWC. But that was as a babyface. I haven't seen any of his earlier stuff before that. I did order an EVOLVE show he was main eventing, but I couldn't get through it, so I'm not sure if he was great and then the CWC just didn't play to his skill-set, or whether he has actually gotten significantly better since going to New Japan and really focusing or whatever. I did really like the fluidity of some of his stuff in the CWC. If he's amplified that and cut out the gasping for air like he's just swam a channel, then I can imagine how he would be a lot more fun. I'm looking forward to this match with Okada.

mike adamle 03-27-2018 09:50 PM

Would be awesome if Zack wins the title here. I know everyone expects Okada to break that title defense record, but I've gotta feeling New Japan is gonna strike the iron while it's hot here.

Evil Vito 03-27-2018 11:41 PM

As much as Sabre has been killing it of late, I would be absolutely floored if Okada's legendary reign was ended by a gaijin at this point.

Mr. Nerfect 03-28-2018 01:32 AM

Weirder things have happened, but I think Okada is going to keep going.

Jordan 03-28-2018 09:18 AM

I want to think that they are going to set up another angle for Jericho and Naito but I can't realistically see Jericho rushing Niato with his boys near him. I hope that match is still on.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-28-2018 10:06 AM

Jericho says he's done with NJPW, just money and scheduling issues, but we know how he likes to mislead and bullshit

Owens on Instagram this month said in a photo of him and Jericho that he knows it's happening and that it's a shame Jericho won't be back in the WWE for a while

Naito is Tranquilo

Personally, I think it's still on and that's going to be the main draw for the Cow Palace show. It may have been planned for SSE, but that sold out so quick and there's a lot of seats to fill in their second US date.

Jordan 03-28-2018 10:11 AM

I was thinking the same Hansey. Hoping that we get those big three matchs, Naito/Jericho, Golden Lovers/Bucks II, and Rey vs Ospreay. Fingers crossed.

Innovator 03-28-2018 10:59 AM

You have to have a somewhat big title match on the Cow Palace show, at least an Okada defense

Innovator 03-28-2018 11:43 AM

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#BROKEN Hasney 03-28-2018 11:53 AM

There was that weird rumor floating around at the start of the year from several sources that Goldberg was talking to NJPW before the hall of fame announcement, but I can't see him coming in just to job to Okada.

Mysterio should be fit by then, so Mysterio/Liger or Mysterio/Osperay depending on what they decide to do. I think they might do something weird like the Bucks going one on one with each other with the things being teased on BtE, which would be a first time ever deal I think which could sell a couple of tickets.

Okada is the question, he's faced almost everyone of note at this point. The promise of a 60 minute Omega/Okada classic again could be enough for people to want to see that in person, but I think Omega has to go over this time if they pull the trigger, but then you've got the Golden Lovers angle on fire.

NJPW right now has a fuck ton of options for terrific matches, but that marquee Okada opponent is a difficult one now without looking outside of the current roster.

Innovator 03-28-2018 02:59 PM

What would happen if Ibushi beat Okada?

#BROKEN Hasney 03-28-2018 03:18 PM

My TV would malfunction with all the semen that explodes out of me and into the vents?

Emperor Smeat 03-28-2018 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5099542)
I want to think that they are going to set up another angle for Jericho and Naito but I can't realistically see Jericho rushing Niato with his boys near him. I hope that match is still on.

They can solve that dilemma by having another Jericho video play on the big screen after the Naito-Suzuki tag match. Use it as the official way to set up their match at the July US show.

Can't really do anything else with him till his current Fozzy commitments ends which is right around the time their US show at the Cow Palace occurs.

Simple Fan 03-30-2018 12:24 AM

Cody said on Twitter the classic Bullet Club logo is being retired and that he will debut a new logo next week.

Jordan 03-30-2018 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5099582)
NJPW right now has a fuck ton of options for terrific matches, but that marquee Okada opponent is a difficult one now without looking outside of the current roster.

Whoa whoa... Really? I mean they built up Zaber in one tournament in a really cool legit way. They have Cody, Suzuki, Ibushi and Kenny.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-31-2018 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5100039)
Whoa whoa... Really? I mean they built up Zaber in one tournament in a really cool legit way. They have Cody, Suzuki, Ibushi and Kenny.

Yeah and they could do that with someone again before then, but everyone you've listed he's beaten. I think it might be Kenny wkth him finally getting the ain, but it sounds like the Golden Lovers are going to be tagging for a little while yet.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-31-2018 07:26 AM

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Emperor Smeat 04-01-2018 01:09 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">‘To be honest, I don’t know what Strong Style is, what it’s meant to be. I know I’m the champion. That means I’m strong. I have Style. So I guess I’m the most Strong Style.’ <a href="https://t.co/mirCd0dfXm">https://t.co/mirCd0dfXm</a></p>&mdash; chris charlton (@reasonjp) <a href="https://twitter.com/reasonjp/status/980038590603251712?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 31, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Emperor Smeat 04-01-2018 05:33 AM

Holy shit Ospreay got busted open during the Jr Heavyweight match

Emperor Smeat 04-01-2018 05:41 AM

Move that busted open Ospreay's head.

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Emperor Smeat 04-01-2018 06:06 AM

Guess Cody wanted to top Ospreay by donning his own Crimson mask tonight.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-01-2018 06:39 AM

I woke up late, but at least I've got most ld this championship match. I'll go back and watch the rest in a little bit. Okada been trying to wrestle ZSJ's game has kept the match slow, but Okada is picking things back up.

Jordan 04-01-2018 08:41 AM

Oh shit I thought this was gonna be on tonight. Yay now I can watch it now.

Jordan 04-01-2018 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5100367)
Move that busted open Ospreay's head.

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Damn that is ugly. Stupid attempt to begin with.

Simple Fan 04-01-2018 08:43 PM

Okada vs ZSJ was different but a good match. Crazy it was about 15 minutes before the first strike was thrown. The Roman Reigns Rain Maker was pretty cool. Also watched Golden Lovers vs Cody and Hangman. Japanese tables are a motherfucker.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-11-2018 05:44 PM

Rumour doing the rounds is that Kitamura might be finished. Graves type situation with an unshakeable concussion.

Shame, dude was about to go on excursion and probably come back to be a big deal.

Emperor Smeat 04-11-2018 06:14 PM

:-\ Feel bad for him since he did show some good potential as a star during the very brief time he was around. Probably didn't help he started his career at a much later age than most.

Wonder if the Shibata situation played some role and NJPW is now more concerned or aware of the dangers associated with it.

Fignuts 04-11-2018 06:44 PM

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

dude was great

Evil Vito 04-11-2018 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5107085)
Rumour doing the rounds is that Kitamura might be finished. Graves type situation with an unshakeable concussion.

Shame, dude was about to go on excursion and probably come back to be a big deal.


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#BROKEN Hasney 04-13-2018 06:54 AM

Kitamura not coming back might not have to do with a concussion, but something New Japan are happy for people not to know. Make of that what you will.

#BROKEN Hasney 04-13-2018 06:54 AM

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Innovator 04-13-2018 11:40 AM

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Emperor Smeat 04-14-2018 10:31 PM

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Mr. Nerfect 04-15-2018 07:08 PM

Shame about Kitamura. :(

Bone Soldier will not make up for this.

Evil Vito 04-15-2018 09:38 PM

What if Bone Soldier just beats the living fuck out of Cody and it's revealed to be Kitamura?

Simple Fan 04-17-2018 12:43 AM

I hope it's a different Bone Soldier but knowing Cody probably not.

Innovator 04-18-2018 09:47 AM

Probably Flip

#BROKEN Hasney 04-18-2018 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 5110175)
Probably Flip

His flight will take too long because he can only go the wrong direction or he worries he'll fly off the edge

Simple Fan 04-18-2018 10:15 AM

Could you imagine Jeff Cobb taking over the Bone Soldier gimmick? Not sure what his Lucha Underground situation is but that would be way better than the original Bone Soldier.

Emperor Smeat 04-18-2018 11:43 AM

According to Jericho, he's currently done with the company due to talks falling apart between the two sides.

Pretty much killed any chance of a Jericho-Naito match happening for the next US show or any time soon.

Innovator 04-18-2018 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5110200)
According to Jericho, he's currently done with the company due to talks falling apart between the two sides.

Pretty much killed any chance of a Jericho-Naito match happening for the next US show or any time soon.

So he'll be in Dontaku

Innovator 04-18-2018 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney (Post 5110176)
His flight will take too long because he can only go the wrong direction or he worries he'll fly off the edge

Probably one of my favorite Being the Elite moments is when Cody just deadpans Flip: "You'll never perform in the Tokyo Dome, you're not all in, and the earth is fucking round"

slik 04-20-2018 08:03 PM

Watching NJPW's AXS show for the first time 'watching-watching' ever r/n

slik 04-20-2018 08:05 PM

1st match was like 2 minutes, edited down from 17 minutes. Interesting.

slik 04-20-2018 08:09 PM

2nd match also 2 minutes...edited down from 14 minutes.

slik 04-20-2018 08:11 PM

Guy doing play by play with Jim Ross is 2,000,000,000,000 % less annoying than Michael Cole, Jonathan Coachman and Booker T.

slik 04-20-2018 08:13 PM

The crowd seems much louder than I've heard Japanese fans are -- are the crowd noises edited in or have 'the times changed'?

slik 04-20-2018 08:14 PM

Sanada has a cool mask

slik 04-20-2018 08:17 PM

Sanada dude using an 'Oklahoma Roll' -- Jim Ross really excited on commentary, talking about Danny Hodge now....miss Seth82!!!

slik 04-20-2018 08:17 PM

Ok, so 20 seconds is a count-out instead of 10...I wonder if any other rules are different.

slik 04-20-2018 08:19 PM

Chairs don't seem to be illegal

slik 04-20-2018 08:24 PM

Sanada wins. That much was really fun, lots of 'entertainment' spots!

slik 04-20-2018 08:26 PM

Taka Michonuku accompanying ZSJ to the ring, I didn't know he was his manager!

slik 04-20-2018 08:31 PM

Ibushi vs ZSJ -- Cool, I know who both these guys are

Mr. Nerfect 04-20-2018 08:38 PM

I love that Taka Michinoku is still in wrestling.

slik 04-20-2018 08:56 PM

That was a really good match, lots of cool spots! Overall, this was (3x shorter) and more enjoyable than RAW this week if I had to compare the two shows.

slik 04-20-2018 08:58 PM

ZSJ w/ an F bomb in his promo backstage


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