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Evil Vito 04-16-2018 12:24 AM

Thinking Differently 4 - The GREATEST Edition!
 
Here we go.

https://goo.gl/forms/Hgv1HcXlvGC4fM3q1

Vastardikai 04-16-2018 01:12 AM

Dunn

Mr. Nerfect 04-16-2018 02:30 AM

I mulled on the Ric Flair question, because which reigns are counted?

Big Vic 04-16-2018 08:30 AM

I think we should add this line for each round so new players know:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito
Oh yeah, and try to avoid being a dick and looking things up. If you don't know the answer to a question, just take a shot in the dark.

Also just gonna copy the questions here so when the results come up we know

SPOILER: show
1. Name an entrant from the 1992 Royal Rumble match. *
2. Name a wrestler who main evented a Great American Bash PPV. *
3. Name a wrestler who has been in only one Royal Rumble match. *
4. Name a wrestler that Ric Flair beat for one of his many World Title reigns. *
5. Name a wrestler who entered last in a Royal Rumble match. *
6. Like The Great Khali, name a wrestler who only had one WWF/E World Title reign. *
7. Name an "Iron Man" who was in the ring the longest during a Royal Rumble match. *
8. Ain't he great? Name a championship won by Jeff Jarrett. *
9. Name a surprise entrant from a Royal Rumble match. *
10. Name a wrestler who placed #1 in the PWI Top 500. *

Nicky Fives 04-16-2018 08:42 AM

I found this one much harder... First one where I'm not sure if I have right answers to qualify. Well done.

Jordan 04-16-2018 09:23 AM

Yeah I found this one really tough too. To think of more than like 3 guys Flair actually beat for the title was tough for me.

Evil Vito 04-16-2018 09:35 AM

Yeah tried to make them a bit tougher. Initially I was gonna ask to name a Rumble runner-up, but decided it would be more challenging to name a final entrant for the actual match. There have been enough "Winner gets #30" type of stips over the years, plus I feel like most people have a few Rumbles they enjoy and would just remember offhand who entered last during them. Whatever.

Big Vic 04-16-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5108356)
Yeah I found this one really tough too. To think of more than like 3 guys Flair actually beat for the title was tough for me.

Well he beat 29 guys for one....

Lock Jaw 04-16-2018 10:24 AM

These are getting harder for me to do without looking up any answers because I have a bad memory for past rassling stuff.

Bad News Gertner 04-16-2018 10:37 AM

The PWI question is a tough one. Total shot in the dark answer.

Maluco 04-16-2018 11:35 AM

Guessed most of these, but this is really good Vito, well done!

Big Vic 04-16-2018 01:28 PM

I had a risky strategy for one of the questions.... hope it pays off.

Jordan 04-16-2018 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5108362)
Well he beat 29 guys for one....

Well yeah but even so, I was having lot of trouble remembering that match. I've only seen it maybe 3 times. I should probably watch it more.

I guess on a lot of them, but they are educated guesses.

Jordan 04-16-2018 01:40 PM

Also I like to play to the question as specific as I can. I don't want to get docked for putting a one time celeb as a RR Contestant, because he specifically writes "WRESTLER". I know how this game works. Also "surprise" entrant is subject to the reader I think simply because what surprises you may not surprise me.

Big Vic 04-16-2018 01:53 PM

Yeah I didn't pick a WWECW Champ or WHC for the Khali question because of last rounds shenanigans even though it could be argued that since Khali was mentioned in the question the WHC should count.

Jordan 04-16-2018 02:01 PM

I personally consider anyone who was a WHC, Universal Champion, Undisputed Champion... "champion".

Vastardikai 04-16-2018 02:37 PM

I went early. Very early.

Lock Jaw 04-16-2018 06:54 PM

I have made my picks.

Immediately after submitting I thought "Wait a second, these weren't the answers I thought of but didn't submit yesterday..."

Jordan 04-16-2018 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 5108421)
I went early. Very early.

Smart :eek:

Anybody Thrilla 04-17-2018 12:44 AM

I'm sure I'm wrong about at least a couple of those.

Nicky Fives 04-17-2018 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5108365)
The PWI question is a tough one. Total shot in the dark answer.

Same. Some fairly obvious ones I omitted on purpose, went for one that "had" to be on it....

rob11 04-17-2018 03:11 PM

Mine are either recent or well known so I won't tie for 1st place this time. I tried a couple obscure ones but I don't even know if they are right.

I can't believe someone else put Nacho Man vs Huckster on last quiz. I thought I was the only one to remember that actually being put on a WM pre-show.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-18-2018 12:33 AM

Done. Hard one. Hope I didn't fuck it up.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-18-2018 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 5108407)
Also I like to play to the question as specific as I can. I don't want to get docked for putting a one time celeb as a RR Contestant, because he specifically writes "WRESTLER". I know how this game works. Also "surprise" entrant is subject to the reader I think simply because what surprises you may not surprise me.

To explain my logic in picking...

A surprise entrant would be an individual who had no television time on the PPV before coming down to the ring. Hopefully no TV time in a good long while but not necessary.

The Price would be wrong.. Vince told him he was going to be in it on camera. Nobody popped like it was a surprise. In that same RR there was a certain former Blonde Bomber who was a surprise entrant.

Bad News Gertner 04-18-2018 07:53 PM

When are we doing results?

Shisen Kopf 04-18-2018 10:39 PM

I won. That's all you need to know

Juan 04-19-2018 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5108362)
Well he beat 29 guys for one....

Damn, didn’t think of that

Emperor Smeat 04-19-2018 12:55 PM

Got stumped the most on the "only 1 Rumble match" and Great American Bash questions.

Evil Vito 04-19-2018 01:18 PM

Responses have been coming in pretty consistently. Might give it another day or two and do results over the weekend.

Jordan 04-19-2018 05:31 PM

Are you prepared with version 5?!?

Mr. Nerfect 04-19-2018 06:42 PM

My only issue with these so far, Vito, is that it takes so fucking long to get the results, haha. It's good you're getting responses and I understand it. I'm just whinging.

#1-norm-fan 04-19-2018 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5108362)
Well he beat 29 guys for one....

Goddamit. Should have read the thread first. I thought I was pretty shifty on my answers. Didn't think of that though.

Savio 04-19-2018 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5110578)
My only issue with these so far, Vito, is that it takes so fucking long to get the results, haha. It's good you're getting responses and I understand it. I'm just whinging.

Don't hassle him or he might stop :(

Mr. Nerfect 04-19-2018 08:29 PM

Sorry, I was trying to make a light-hearted jab. Please keep 'em coming, Vito.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-20-2018 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 5110460)
Damn, didn’t think of that

Shit, that was brilliant.

Evil Vito 04-20-2018 02:26 PM

I said after the first version that I was hoping to make it a once a week thing, therefore it should be expected that I'd leave the poll open for nearly a week before posting aforementioned results. I'm kinda thinking something like

Open Monday
Close Friday
Results Friday evening/Saturday
Open next one by Monday
etc.

Gives plenty of time for responses to come in (we have a new record for this one) plus gives me some time to research if answers are valid since as we go along not all of these questions will be as easily verifiable.

Also gotta think of questions for the next game so feel free to shoot me suggestions via PM or whatever.

Mr. Nerfect 04-20-2018 06:34 PM

How about firsts?

Bad News Gertner 04-20-2018 07:01 PM

How about all female addition

Lock Jaw 04-20-2018 07:02 PM

How about all midget edition

Mr. Nerfect 04-20-2018 07:26 PM

THE BULL'S TWERKING, MACKEL!

Simple Fan 04-20-2018 08:22 PM

Great foreign wrestlers to go along with the Greatest Royal Rumble.

Nicky Fives 04-20-2018 09:11 PM

Keeping with a theme is likely your best bet to be able to think of 10 questions. Nakamura wins the WWE Title, an all Japanese theme, etc.

Bad News Gertner 04-20-2018 09:52 PM

Gimmick matches

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-20-2018 10:33 PM

Double Duty

Wrestlers who have wrestled twice on the same card on tv or ppv

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-20-2018 10:33 PM

Fake Russians

Anybody Thrilla 04-20-2018 10:54 PM

Something about jobbers

Emperor Smeat 04-20-2018 11:02 PM

Name a match involving a Flair Flop.

Mr. Nerfect 04-21-2018 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 5110879)
Gimmick matches

This is a good one.

Famous snakes in wrestling. Randy Orton, Steve Austin, Jake Roberts, the Anaconda Vise, the Cobra, etc.

Evil Vito 04-21-2018 01:56 PM

RESULTS

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing


Top 5 Lowest Scores
1. Emperor Smeat: 18
1. Ruien: 18
3. #1-wwf-fan: 19
4. hb2k: 20
5. Innovator: 22
5. rob11: 22

Top 5 Highest Scores
26. owenbrown: 32
26. Tanawesome: 32
28. Powdered Toast Man: 33
28. Ultra Mantis: 33
30. Fignuts: 34
31. Anybody Thrilla: 40


Top 3 Most Frequently Given Answers
Wrestler who main evented Great American Bash: JBL (6)
Title won by Jeff Jarrett: WWF European (6)
#1 on PWI 500: Dean Malenko (6)


Notes from the Official Scorer:

RISE OF THE PHOENIX: For the first time ever, an incorrect answer was the most-given answer for a question. Beth Phoenix being in only one Rumble would've been correct prior to this year, but at least it wasn't a huge point penalty.

MISTAKEN IDENTITY: Poor Maluco, he was on the right track guessing Salvatore Sincere for only one Rumble appearance. But Tom Brandi had already shed the gimmick and went by his real name by the time he got into a Rumble. I'm okay with mixing gimmicks about for interpromotional questions (ie Goldust/Dustin Rhodes or Big Show/The Giant all being acceptable for the Starrcade/Mania question last time), but for something like this where it's only one promotion and he was only in the Rumble with one name, I felt I couldn't count it.

NICE TRY: "Like The Great Khali, name a wrestler who held only one WWF/E World Title".....and #1-wwf-fan tried to pull a fast one with Great Khali :lol: sadly for him that point swing cost him the game.

EXTREME CONUNDRUM: The ECW Title lineage sure does complicate things in this game. Obviously I've counted it for ECW Title questions, but I didn't count it as a World Title for the "Other Title" question in the last game even though it was technically one of the three world titles under the WWE banner when WWECW came into the fold. Ultimately I decided to stay consistent and not count it here for Mark Henry or Jack Swagger - although in Swagger's case he was the top selected answer or that question so it was kind moot.

BAD SURPRISE: I was a bit of a stickler with the surprise question. Nobody would've expected Drew Carey to be in the 2001 Royal Rumble when the night started, but Vince informed him of his entry during the middle of the show. It wasn't a surprise when the buzzer sounded and he entered the match. Ditto for Mr. Perfect in 2002, his entry was announced in the lead-up to the event. Couldn't validate if Carlos Colon was a surprise or not since they didn't really announce entrants back then, so I let it pass. But I did get amused watching a video of him entering and hearing Gorilla Monsoon refer to the 44-year old Colon as a "fiery youngster".

Bad News Gertner 04-21-2018 02:19 PM

Wow, I totally thought Ahmed Johnson was number 30 in 98 instead of Vader

Ruien 04-21-2018 02:23 PM

Whow I suck.

Emperor Smeat 04-21-2018 04:06 PM

:eek: I actually won.

Figured I was going to get burned on a few questions since they were just guesses or had good chances of getting picked by more people.

Evil Vito 04-21-2018 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 5111062)
Whow I suck.

Actually, you tied with Smeat for the win

Ruien 04-21-2018 05:47 PM

I thought the point was to get the most points?

Ruien 04-21-2018 05:51 PM

Smear and I need a tie breaker somehow. Fuck a tie.

Helmsphere 04-21-2018 05:56 PM

Just curious, what did I score?

Vastardikai 04-21-2018 07:13 PM

I was 1 question off hitting top 5. Maybe the next one.

Mr. Nerfect 04-21-2018 07:31 PM

On the ECW Title: For what it’s worth, I think the company considers it a World Title from when it came back up until Morrison. So Bobby Lashley is a former World Champion, whereas Morrison is not.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2018 01:48 AM

Fuck you 5 other people for picking Dean Malenko. Assholes.

Jordan 04-22-2018 09:34 AM

I really hope to make top 5 soon, I wonder what that feels like!

rob11 04-22-2018 12:21 PM

5th place isn't as bad as I thought. I have been watching some Youtube channels that have segments from the attitude era which help. I use as much from The 2001 Rumble as possible since it's such a great Rumble. Late 99 gets kinda pushed together for me but that picture that has Vince holding the title stuck out so much. I kind of remember that feud. He was feuding with Triple H and managed to win the title to set up that six pack challenge with Austin as the referee.

Sometimes when I can't find a definite answer, I remember what happened in the most recent event such as Rey Mysterio being a surprise entrant this year. Since people try to remember more obscure answers from further back in the past, they don't think about this past year.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2018 12:48 PM

Another Category: PPV or Clash of the Champions Subtitle.

DaveWadding 04-22-2018 01:03 PM

How the fuck was Ric Flair never #1 in the PWI 500?

Lock Jaw 04-22-2018 01:08 PM

And how was The Miz ever #1?

Jordan 04-22-2018 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5111221)
Another Category: PPV or Clash of the Champions Subtitle.

:y::y:

Emperor Smeat 04-22-2018 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveWadding (Post 5111224)
How the fuck was Ric Flair never #1 in the PWI 500?

Probably because of the kayfabe system PWI uses for their rankings. It weighs heavily on WWE and the WWE title for favoritism.

Since it started in 91', it missed out on the bulk of Flair's career and someone else held the WCW or WWF titles longer than he did during the 90s.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-22-2018 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5111226)
And how was The Miz ever #1?

He main evented WrestleMania and retained the WWE Championship.

xrodmuc316 04-22-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 5111107)
On the ECW Title: For what it’s worth, I think the company considers it a World Title from when it came back up until Morrison. So Bobby Lashley is a former World Champion, whereas Morrison is not.

It was definitely considered a world title at first. While there was never an official demotion, I always felt that as soon as ECW champion Chavo Guerrero entered the Royal Rumble for a shot at a world title was when the easiest and most logical time to say it was no longer a World Title.

Morrison and Punk's reigns would technically be World title reigns then, but I also agree that once Lashley had to give it up after being drafted to Raw, and then the tournament where that unmentionable Canadian was going to win it but didn't show up surely hurt it's prestige going forward.

Savio 04-22-2018 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5108403)
I had a risky strategy for one of the questions.... hope it pays off.

The strat was guess IC for Jarrett because most people would pick Euro/Tag

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-24-2018 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savio (Post 5111334)
The strat was guess IC for Jarrett because most people would pick Euro/Tag

I thought NWA NorthAmerican was clever but I guess a few others had the same idea.

Simple Fan 04-24-2018 01:23 AM

Jarrett has won so many titles that one was pretty easy I thought. Thought most would go with WWE or TNA era so I went with AAA. Seems USWA was a smart pick as well.

owenbrown 04-24-2018 09:46 AM

Damn... on the Jarrett title question no one said WCW United States title... I should have used that one.

Innovator 04-24-2018 12:04 PM

I went with WWA, other did too

#1-norm-fan 04-24-2018 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED (Post 5111052)
NICE TRY: "Like The Great Khali, name a wrestler who held only one WWF/E World Title".....and #1-wwf-fan tried to pull a fast one with Great Khali :lol: sadly for him that point swing cost him the game.

lol I totally should have gotten credit for that one.

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-24-2018 03:26 PM

To be fair it was thinking differently to give the example as the answer.

Ruien 04-24-2018 05:00 PM

Fan tricking the system

#1-norm-fan 04-24-2018 07:45 PM

Goddamn right.

#1-norm-fan 04-24-2018 07:49 PM

Technically there's nothing incorrect about the answer though.

Mr. Nerfect 04-25-2018 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 5112289)
I went with WWA, other did too

I was thinking "Who else even remember that existed?" haha.

Mr. Nerfect 04-25-2018 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xrodmuc316 (Post 5111266)
It was definitely considered a world title at first. While there was never an official demotion, I always felt that as soon as ECW champion Chavo Guerrero entered the Royal Rumble for a shot at a world title was when the easiest and most logical time to say it was no longer a World Title.

Morrison and Punk's reigns would technically be World title reigns then, but I also agree that once Lashley had to give it up after being drafted to Raw, and then the tournament where that unmentionable Canadian was going to win it but didn't show up surely hurt it's prestige going forward.

Morrison's reign is when they changed the name from "ECW World Championship" to just "ECW Championship." But it's eerie to think of old Johnny Nitro as a World Champion. I imagine that is why they changed it. They never labelled Punk as a former World Champion because of it, to the best of my recollection.

Sixx 04-26-2018 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5108344)
I think we should add this line for each round so new players know:



Also just gonna copy the questions here so when the results come up we know

SPOILER: show
1. Name an entrant from the 1992 Royal Rumble match. * Jeff Jarret
2. Name a wrestler who main evented a Great American Bash PPV. * Hogan
3. Name a wrestler who has been in only one Royal Rumble match. * I dunno, Lashley?
4. Name a wrestler that Ric Flair beat for one of his many World Title reigns. * Hogan
5. Name a wrestler who entered last in a Royal Rumble match. * No idea, wil;d guess is Snuka.
6. Like The Great Khali, name a wrestler who only had one WWF/E World Title reign. * Sgt. Slaughter
7. Name an "Iron Man" who was in the ring the longest during a Royal Rumble match. * What's an Iron Man? Errr, HBK?
8. Ain't he great? Name a championship won by Jeff Jarrett. * Intercontinental
9. Name a surprise entrant from a Royal Rumble match. * Diesel
10. Name a wrestler who placed #1 in the PWI Top 500. Daniel Bryan maybe. *

Too late, but just gonna try and answer those here for fun.


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