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slik 07-22-2018 12:34 AM

GODZILLA: King of the Monsters (2019)
 
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Damian Rey 2.0 07-22-2018 12:51 AM

YAYASS! Looks interesting. Loved the last one so I'm pretty excited.

Frank Drebin 07-22-2018 01:58 AM

Looks dope as fuck.

Emperor Smeat 07-22-2018 02:06 AM

Trailer looked great overall. Hope this film has more Godzilla screen time since that was something sorely lacking in recent films.

Frank Drebin 07-22-2018 02:14 AM

I'm not even a big Godzilla mark and this looks sick. You know Kong has to show up at some point as well, too. Skull Island was one of the more surprisingly good movies I've seen in a while.

Just hope they don't overload this with the "Titans" to the point it becomes bloated.

Emperor Smeat 07-22-2018 02:46 AM

Wonder if Braun Strowman is going to be in this film since he is a "Monster among men."

Maybe he cashes in his Monster in the Bank case to save the world in the end.

Lock Jaw 07-22-2018 02:49 AM

Hated the last one, but this one looks like it could maybe be better.

Seanny One Ball 07-22-2018 05:57 AM

I enjoyed Godzilla. It's better the second time around because you don't spend the entire film waiting to get a good look.

Fignuts 07-22-2018 06:46 AM

I think the first one caught some people off guard because they weren't expecting a slow burn. I loved it though.

Lock Jaw 07-22-2018 06:55 AM

It also felt to me like it couldn't settle down and decide what kind of movie it was gonna be, or what it was gonna be about.

ClockShot 07-22-2018 09:12 AM

I was expecting this to be some sort of Monster slugfest.

Instead we need all the monsters to rally together to take down Ghidorah…….again.

Kalyx triaD 07-22-2018 09:13 AM

That volcano Rodan left might have been on Skull Island.

Seanny One Ball 07-22-2018 09:23 AM

The hollow Earth theory seemed so attractive in Skull Island.

Shadow 07-22-2018 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5149445)
That volcano Rodan left might have been on Skull Island.

https://www.monarchsciences.com

Go here and try and find where Rodan pops out of. It ain't Skull Island.

Damian Rey 2.0 07-22-2018 04:30 PM

I loved the slow burn in the first one. It was reminiscent of the originals, and it made that first roar at the airport worth it.

McLegend 07-28-2018 08:42 AM

The probelem with the first Godzilla was the best character was only on screen for 30 minutes. Most of the other characters were not interesting.

Ol Dirty Dastard 07-28-2018 10:43 AM

Miley Bobbie Brown playing her character from Stranger Things. Tywin Lannister playing Tywin Lannister.

Seanny One Ball 07-28-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 5151915)
The probelem with the first Godzilla was the best character was only on screen for 30 minutes. Most of the other characters were not interesting.


Did you see the original or the re-cut American version?

Shadow 07-28-2018 04:06 PM

He's talking about the first movie in this particular incarnation of Godzilla.

Seanny One Ball 07-28-2018 04:10 PM

Ah, was it even 30 minutes?

Fignuts 07-28-2018 04:44 PM

Hell of a 30 minutes though.

Blonde Moment 07-29-2018 01:05 PM

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McLegend 07-30-2018 07:48 PM

I was referring to Bryan Cranston, but the confusion is understood.

I liked how Godzilla was handled. I was ok with the “slow burn” approach.

Sixx 07-30-2018 08:17 PM

Another one?

KIRA 07-30-2018 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 5151915)
The probelem with the first Godzilla was the best character was only on screen for 30 minutes. Most of the other characters were not interesting.

It's rare that you get really good human characters in Godzilla movies in fact the only one I can think of that I really love was Miki

Frank Drebin 07-30-2018 11:14 PM

That might be one of the most epic trailers of all time. The music (Debussy’s Clair de lune) really gives the whole thing a larger than life and emotional feel.

slik 12-10-2018 01:42 PM

That last shot :eek:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Which of these Titans are here to protect us, and which of these Titans are here to threaten us? See the new trailer for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GodzillaMovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GodzillaMovie</a> – in theaters May 31. <a href="https://t.co/GflxoKROS4">pic.twitter.com/GflxoKROS4</a></p>&mdash; Godzilla: King of the Monsters (@GodzillaMovie) <a href="https://twitter.com/GodzillaMovie/status/1072174128923209729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Rammsteinmad 12-10-2018 02:37 PM

Looks alright. Thought the 2014 one was shit, and I don't feel like this is a franchise that can really take off these days. Just feels like this film will be another huge letdown.

And of course, we're all just waiting for King Kong to get involved, in another shameless attempt at studios cashing in on the whole shared-universe thing.

slik 12-10-2018 03:02 PM

I'm still not sure how that will work. The King Kong they intro'd in this franchise while still considerably larger than past versions was still way, way shorter than Godzilla. Maybe he's grown taller since the 1970's. Also 'zilla appears to be the face in this film. Maybe he will turn heel on humanity in Godzilla vs Kong.

Rammsteinmad 12-10-2018 04:17 PM

I assumed Kong was smaller but faster, more agile and pound-for-pound stronger than Godzilla, who is just all-round more "powerful".

I dunno. I don't really care. Kong and 2014 Godzilla both disappointed me.

Shadow 12-10-2018 04:38 PM

Well that's because you don't know joy or happiness. But no need to bring the rest of us down.

Also this film is gonna rock so hard.

Sixx 12-10-2018 04:47 PM

Meh.

Seanny One Ball 12-10-2018 05:06 PM

Skull Island Kong can't be that much smaller than Godzilla, surely?

Kalyx triaD 12-10-2018 06:29 PM

Kong was a teen in Skull Island. His parents bones revealed that he will be near Kaiju sized.

Seanny One Ball 12-10-2018 07:46 PM

Sadly despite trying to drift with the Kaiju's, my bone remains gaijin sized.

ClockShot 12-10-2018 08:41 PM

After watching that second trailer I still don't get where they're going here.

Is 'Zilla now the sole good guy here? Every monster for him/herself?

Need some more clarification.

Fignuts 12-10-2018 09:24 PM

Some of them are good. Godzilla, Mothra, maybe Gamera. Some of them are bad. King Ghidora and Rodan.

Blonde Moment 12-10-2018 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5204189)
That last shot :eek:


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Which of these Titans are here to protect us, and which of these Titans are here to threaten us? See the new trailer for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GodzillaMovie?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GodzillaMovie</a> – in theaters May 31. <a href="https://t.co/GflxoKROS4">pic.twitter.com/GflxoKROS4</a></p>&mdash; Godzilla: King of the Monsters (@GodzillaMovie) <a href="https://twitter.com/GodzillaMovie/status/1072174128923209729?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote>
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fUCK YA!!!!!!

Frank Drebin 12-10-2018 10:11 PM

I'm still down. Looks fun.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-10-2018 10:41 PM

Loved the last one. So excited for the follow up. Also liked Kong: Skull island. So excited for the crossover.

Lock Jaw 12-11-2018 12:26 AM

Hated the last one, did not see Kong: Skull Island......

Fignuts 12-11-2018 01:42 AM

Last Godzilla seems to be a love it or hate it type of film, which is usually the case with slow burns. I fucking loved it. Skull Island wasnt as good imo, but I still enjoyed it.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-11-2018 03:12 AM

I loved the slow burn for Godzilla. Kong was surprisingly good. It's not great or anything. But for what it is, it's good.

Seanny One Ball 12-11-2018 08:49 PM

I thought Skull Island was a better film than Godzilla, plus it was a lot more fun. Godzilla was fairly dark and depressing. I didn't rate the opposing kaiju's either.

Damian Rey 2.0 12-11-2018 09:55 PM

Seanny is right about the tone. Kong was much more fun. But I still loved Godzilla all the same.

Lock Jaw 12-11-2018 10:17 PM

I don't mind slow burns, but Godzilla felt like it just never quite settled on what type of movie it was going to be. Dunno how to explain that better.

KIRA 12-11-2018 11:04 PM

Gamera is an entirely different franchise but if I had to guess Mothra and Godzilla are the good guys Rodan and Ghidorah are the bad guys

Tom Guycott 12-11-2018 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5204269)
Sadly despite trying to drift with the Kaiju's, my bone remains gaijin sized.

Clearly, you're not drift compatible.

Tom Guycott 12-11-2018 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5205034)
Gamera is an entirely different franchise but if I had to guess Mothra and Godzilla are the good guys Rodan and Ghidorah are the bad guys

Might surprise you with an easter egg. Or the aforementioned "shared universe" thing.

I feel the same about this as I feel about the current Planet of the Apes franchise: I'm not super amped about it, but it still looks like it's worth a watch. Then again, I'm a guy who is down for rubber suited purity. Godzilla just ain't Godzilla unless he's wrecking HO scale shop.

Seanny One Ball 12-12-2018 04:55 AM

I wasn't excited about any of the Planet Of The Apes movies but they were all excellent, particularly the third. I keep meaning to do an Ape-matinee.

Tom Guycott 12-12-2018 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5205094)
I wasn't excited about any of the Planet Of The Apes movies but they were all excellent, particularly the third. I keep meaning to do an Ape-matinee.

To be fair, I wasn't a superfan of the originals, either. But I like that the new one is more about how it came to be, and essentially is a full series of well-conceptualized prequels. They're flicks with their own story to tell and they aren't trying to make it hot new constant reboots or shoehorn in Go-Bots and Wheeled Warriors for some shared cinematic universe.

Sepholio 12-12-2018 07:32 AM

This should be fun. Also really liked Skull Island so I too am stoked for said crossover.

Shadow 12-12-2018 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5205034)
Gamera is an entirely different franchise but if I had to guess Mothra and Godzilla are the good guys Rodan and Ghidorah are the bad guys

Ghidorah's gonna be the pure heel in this. Rodan's gonna tweener.

Seanny One Ball 12-12-2018 05:22 PM

Dennis Rodan

Damian Rey 2.0 12-12-2018 06:03 PM

:wtf:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5205094)
I wasn't excited about any of the Planet Of The Apes movies but they were all excellent, particularly the third. I keep meaning to do an Ape-matinee.

The last 2 Apes movies, especially the 3rd one, were fucking stellar.

Seanny One Ball 12-12-2018 06:53 PM

What's with the wtf smiley? We're clearly in agreement.

The franchise started strong, was never over marketed or hyped and every film has been better than the last. The second was great but the third is monumental. Woody Harrelson took the whole thing up a notch, he's in that glorious late-stage maturation of his craft where his 90's output almost seems like a dream within a dream and for the last while almost every role he takes adds something wonderful to the product.

I'm actually pretty sure Woody Harrelson will win an Oscar someday. I think he should have had one for 3 Billboards but I waited so long for Sam Rockwell to win one I daren't complain when he finally does.

Seanny One Ball 12-12-2018 06:54 PM

Or was the WTF aimed at the Dennis Rodan crack?

If it was don't worry. A bad Dennis Rodman joke is easy to rebound from...

Seanny One Ball 12-12-2018 06:54 PM

At least it was in the 90's

KIRA 12-12-2018 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow (Post 5205199)
Ghidorah's gonna be the pure heel in this. Rodan's gonna tweener.

You know what you're right I forgot that Rodan kind of functions in a grey area
King Ghidorah however is evil and LOVING it.

Also with mothra's new design I can officially welcomed her to the fight I've always kind of felt like she was useless ( in a certain sense) but now that she's got her refined look I'm looking forward to seeing her throw down

Damian Rey 2.0 12-13-2018 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5205220)
What's with the wtf smiley? We're clearly in agreement.

The franchise started strong, was never over marketed or hyped and every film has been better than the last. The second was great but the third is monumental. Woody Harrelson took the whole thing up a notch, he's in that glorious late-stage maturation of his craft where his 90's output almost seems like a dream within a dream and for the last while almost every role he takes adds something wonderful to the product.

I'm actually pretty sure Woody Harrelson will win an Oscar someday. I think he should have had one for 3 Billboards but I waited so long for Sam Rockwell to win one I daren't complain when he finally does.

I post from my mobile so I must've hit one of the face icons while the page was loading and didn't notice.

Woody has found a second gear. Loved him in No County for Old Men. He was stellar in the last Apes film as well.

Fignuts 12-13-2018 01:38 AM

Note to self: Seanny One Ball very self conscious about smiley responses.

Fignuts 12-13-2018 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5205222)
At least it was in the 90's

:nono:

Seanny One Ball 12-13-2018 10:08 AM

Curiosity and self consciousness are not related.

A question was the right way to go.

Tom Guycott 12-14-2018 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 5205238)
Also with mothra's new design I can officially welcomed her to the fight I've always kind of felt like she was useless ( in a certain sense) but now that she's got her refined look I'm looking forward to seeing her throw down

My only question is: will she still be summoned by the Lilliputian twins?

Shadow 12-14-2018 01:02 PM

No probably by Millie Bobby Brown.

Kalyx triaD 12-14-2018 06:01 PM

(She might be playing the twins)

KIRA 12-16-2018 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 5205613)
(She might be playing the twins)

As long as she don't have to sing a song that lasts for 50 goddamn hours in order to wake her up(King Seesar)

Damian Rey 2.0 05-24-2019 12:14 PM

Spoiler tags for this who may want to wait to see the movie to find out but....



If this movie is a turd I'll be devastated.

Seanny One Ball 05-24-2019 12:27 PM

It won't be a turd, the billboards are too sweet.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-24-2019 12:41 PM

https://i.redd.it/io5d4gtx0sz21.jpg

This poster is so damn good.

Emperor Smeat 05-24-2019 05:21 PM

Yeup, that poster looks amazing.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-24-2019 06:46 PM

Bought that digital score on Google play. OMFG I love it. If the movie is as good as the score this'll be a classic.

Shadow 05-25-2019 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 5254862)
Spoiler tags for this who may want to wait to see the movie to find out but....



If this movie is a turd I'll be devastated.

God that theme.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-25-2019 05:19 PM

So damn good. Brought a big smile to my face as I wasn't expecting it.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-29-2019 01:23 PM

Metacritic has the reviews in the 40% range and Rotten Tomatoes has it's recommend rate at 52%. So about average it seems. My guess is it's the opposite of the first one, which may or may not sit well with you depending on how you felt for the first one.

slik 05-29-2019 03:00 PM

I am still going to see it

I liked the 2014 film

Damian Rey 2.0 05-29-2019 03:31 PM

Loved the 2014 one. Watched it the other day and though I'd change some things, overall I still thought it was strong.

Already got my tickets reserved via AMC app for Friday at 4pm California time. I'm excited for it nonetheless.

Fignuts 05-29-2019 07:20 PM

I really loved the slow burn of 2014.

That said if you’re going to have a movie with a bunch of monsters then slow burn isn’t really the way to go. So I’m fine with this one being faster paced and more action packed.

Damian Rey 2.0 05-29-2019 08:14 PM

As am I. Its a natural progression really. Also, given the director, and the complaints of the first from a lot of the fan base, it was easy to guess they were gonna go all out.

I think the way Kong was handled was perfect. We got a lot of him, but it wasn't overkill. We'll see how they handle the crossover film.

Danny Electric 06-02-2019 07:10 PM

I enjoyed it , my son who is a massive fan absolutely loved it.

Damian Rey 2.0 06-03-2019 01:31 AM

The more time I've had to think about it the more I've hated it. Every fight scene was obscured by useless humans doing nothing but running around. Not to mention every fight was covered in clouds, dust, smoke, rain, debris, etc.

Bummer as it turned out to be the turd I was afraid it was gonna be. And I've lost faith in how good Godzilla v Kong is going to be.

Fignuts 06-03-2019 02:44 AM

I dunno man, I've seen that complaint, but I didn't really have trouble following the action. It would be cool to see a daylight fight, but I imagine a big part of the reason is that it's much easier to hide CGI looking too much like CGI with a night setting.

Plus, I think they make up for it by combining the monsters effects with the night setting to create some amazing visuals. A lot of those incredible shots wouldn't look as good in the day.

The main negative I had was that it's not paced very well. I never felt tired of the human element in 2014, because of the previously mentioned slow burn. It's not executed as well here, and a couple times I found myself thinking "alright already lets get back to the monsters".

That said there's still plenty of monster action. A lot more than 2014, and it's fucking rad. Loved all their scenes. Also really appreciated the easter eggs and attention to the lore of the original series.

Kyle Chandler's character was terrible. He just annoyed me the whole film. A lot of the dialogue is cringy to be honest. Like, it feels like dialogue from Godzilla 1998. Except for Ken Watanabe. His scenes are all great.

But the positives far outweighed the negatives for me.

SPOILER: show
So, looks like Godzilla will be fighting Kong until the end where they have to team up to fight Mecha Ghidora.

Jordan 06-03-2019 01:56 PM

I think this was the worst movie I've ever paid to see.

Jordan 06-03-2019 01:58 PM

Why? Well because other than the pops the audience gave the fight scenes there was nothing enjoyable about the film to me except the beauty of Mothra which I loved. It was way too long of a movie and I hated the way they dealt with the Mother character and her babyface and heel turns. A real piece of shit movie that I felt regretful spending my time and money on.

Fignuts 06-03-2019 05:07 PM

Yeah, I'm a huge godzilla mark who's seen all 30+ movies, so take my positive review with a grain of salt.

I think one of the main failings of these new Godzilla movies is the human element. There's always a large human element in Godzilla movies. But in the Toho movies they have interesting characters at least. The last two western films have such bland, cookie cutter characters I couldn't even tell you their names.

To be fair, it's a lot easier to make the human element interesting when you've got zany out there plots involving aliens, time travel, or any of the other ridiculousness that made up the Toho film plots.

But Shin Godzilla showed you can do Godzilla with a plot more grounded in reality.

Seanny One Ball 06-03-2019 07:12 PM

Shin Godzilla is great fun. Do not watch it with the dubbing though... Christ.

Fignuts 06-03-2019 07:22 PM

Yeah I watched the sub.

Fignuts 06-03-2019 07:26 PM

Pretty pissed they've cancelled plans for Shin 2 to apparently reboot it with their own monsterverse. Which is what I thought the Toho films always were in the first place?

Also they're not allowed to make another movie until 2021 after WB/Legendary have finished theirs? Even though Toho created and owns Godzilla? What?

Seanny One Ball 06-03-2019 08:43 PM

It's probably just a licensing agreement to attempt to avoid competing with each other and an attempt to avoid oversaturation.

Damian Rey 2.0 06-03-2019 09:11 PM

Godzilla has been rebooted in Japan countless times. It's fairly comical.

I've not seen Shin Godzilla but I've heard good things.

Fignuts 06-04-2019 08:28 AM

Dudes been around since 1954. One would expect reboots, especially given the rate they crank out films when its active

slik 06-04-2019 09:31 AM

It takes a lot of effort to get me to dislike a movie w/ Vera Farmiga....big Vera Farmiga mark here

Other than the fight scenes towards the end this really was a huge mess, sad to say. 2014 film and KONG: Skull Island were better.

ClockShot 06-04-2019 03:53 PM

Ugh. Just got back from this. Hard to sit through. Thank goodness today's cheap ticket Tuesday at my theatre or I would have gotten my money back.

Sixx 06-05-2019 02:11 AM

From wiki:

Rodan and the other Titans converge on Godzilla and bow to him.

This sounds stupid as fuck.

Damian Rey 2.0 06-05-2019 07:11 AM

It wasn't as dumb in context. But it certainly didn't add anything to the movie.


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