Paige Blames Fans Instead of WWE for Holding Back Women's Wrestling
 

Paige had a recent interview with newspaper Gulf News and besides talking a bunch about her new film, she also mentioned that fans are to blame for why women's wrestling in WWE was in a dire situation for a long time.

https://gulfnews.com/entertainment/h...son-1.62146979

Predictably, Paige has been getting a lot of online backlash from those comments and people pulling up countless instances where WWE held back women's wrestling and treated it as nothing more than "piss break" or "eye candy only" stuff.

Ever since I first saw AJW and saw what women's wrestling could be, I've wanted WWE's women's division to be just as good. It's never been even remotely close. Not even now. In part due to WWE''s forced, tryhard marketing, and in part because there are only a handful of genuinely talented in ring performers in their "revolution".

On Monday your a NERD, on Tuesday your a NERD, on Wensday though Saturday your a NERD, then on Sunday just to be different your a super NERD

She's right i can remember seeing some good matches during that time and fan's not caring.

I blame Moolah.

The meth is hurting your ability to spell.

When she says there were 5 women there when she started, does she mean NXT? Cos surely there was something more than 5 on the main roster.

She sounds like every bitter retired wrestler ever.

Yeah, sure, it had nothing whatsoever to do with Vince only hiring women he could ogle from backstage for the longest time. Come the fuck on.

It’s Jerry Lawlers fault with his relentless “puppies” comments....plus the women have been awful for a long time and still are 50% terrible.

Fuck you fans but see my movie.

Is the girl fucking retarded?

If you examine so much of her career, the answer becomes evident to you.

I was at a ppv where Melina faced Mickie good match and the crowd was disinterested so yeah she has a point.

Y'all nerds don't like when shots get taken at y'all from the wrestlers and it gets y'all in your feelings.

You were at a wrestling show live where you were the only person in the crowd enjoying a Mickie vs Melina match and now you post on a wrestling forum daily to call out others for being nerds as if you’re above them.

Just let that sink in.

Also, Paige clearly hasn’t figured out yet how to toe the line of being a company kissass without going full retard.

Why is Black Widow not dead yet?

Anyways, Paige probably very thankful she has gotten about a bajillion chances with WWE despite her consistent idiocy. As a result, is now drinking company kool-aid.

Conclusive proof at last

Just throwing this in here that I've always said I thought Paige was overrated.

Her and AJ Lee.

You're not wrong. There were plenty of very good matches during that era. Mickie vs Melina Candice Michelle vs Melina, Candice vs Beth Pheonix. The crowds just didn't care.

Did fans book the pudding matches? Also, weird time for her to flex on fans with that movie due out.

Shouldn't she be off getting another retarded looking chest tattoo instead of flapping her gums?

eh. They were presented as afterthoughts and the fans treated it as such.

When presented as a big deal (like Trish and Lita), the fans liked it. And lita sucked but somehow the fans thought she was a badass cuz they said she was.

Wow easy on the mansplaining and definitely take it easy on the big R word pretty boy

It's 2019 on tpww what decade are you posting in

Yep not everyone on the internet has to have the same opinion.

Someone has to do it.

I'm not dead yet cause i'm still alive pretty easy to figure out.


Shouldn't you be buying some DDPYoga instead of crying on here.

Speaking of respecting women’s wrestling, was it also the fans who put the NXT women’s title in her hands so Brad Maddox could jizz all over it?

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Twitter thread with a lot of instances of Paige being wrong in her claims.

I will do when you're finished blowing me.

The occasional good match isn’t going to maintain the audiences attention when it’s surrounded by so much pissbreak nonsense. There’s always been at any given time, a few women who truly care, and want to excel as performers, but that doesn’t really matter if the company isn’t willing to get behind the division as a whole.

It is what it is. Things aren’t perfect now, but I feel the division is in a better place than it was during the beginning of the women’s revolution. They’re still trying too hard at times but I also feel they’re allowing some things to happen more naturally, which is how women got over in nxt to begin with.

Found it interesting that one of the basis for Paige's claims involved "puppies" being used in derogatory terms which was something that didn't really originate with fans but instead with WWE and Jerry "The King" Lawler.

Like no shit the fans are going to chant the phrase after being conditioned for years by WWE about it being an acceptable term to use for women wrestlers.

Going to have to go full SlickyTrickyDamon on you here and make a completely irrelevant correction -- but it was actually Road Dogg who originated "Puppies". Mr. Lawler simply took the ball and ran with it.

Sorry, I don't know why I felt so obligated to clarify that fact.

I never even brought up that match, and I'm sure if I re-watched it, I might be inclined to agree.

What you ignore or fail to realize is that just as much as a wrestler (oh, I'm sorry, "superstar" :roll: ) has a right to express their opinions to the fans, the fans have a right to respond back with their own opinions. That's literally the whole reason professional wrestling exists. The term "male soap opera" gets thrown around a lot, but that's essentially what it is.

Yes it is our fault that Vince hired the likes of Kelly Kelly, Jackie Gayda, Jerry Lawler's 19th underage ex-girlfriend and a whole host of talentless models and also ran blondes through a diva search

Cuz we totally didn't bitch when they did absolutely nothing with Gail Kim and tried their damnedest to push the likes of The Bella Twins to the forefront of the company.

The match quality would have more the likely been better if they were given more than three minutes, but like you said if the company doesnt care then why should the fans.

You’re definitely right that some of those girls deserved more time. But 3 minutes in the ring is about all I can handle of someone like Christy Hemme. And there were a lot of them for a while.

Very true. They also might have improved a bit if they were given more time. Lol yeah Christy wasn't good.

Looking at the landscape today, it really shows the value of the performance center. Even the below average female performers are a lot better than some of the women the had in years past.

Oh yes definitely. Finlay did a yeomans job teaching the females in the ring back in the day, but this system is much better.

Pretty much can blame Moolah, Vince, Kevin Dunn, and John Laurinaitis for why women's wrestling was in such a bad shape for decades in WWE outside of brief moments.

Vince and Laurinaitis are the biggest offenders of that group. Vince never really wanted women's wrestling in WWE and Laurinaitis' basis for signings involved if he saw them in a magazine or considered them bar date worthy.

I just heard an interview Vince gave in 85 pumping up the Womens division. Lol not even a year later it was dead on its ass and they had an awesome roster of female wrestlers in the mid 80s. Half of it was Moolah, half Vince.

Also didn't help that a couple years later, Moolah played a key role in the demise of the original women's tag division and screwed the division out of a big moment at Mania that year.

Good call on Moolah. She doesnt get enough blame for holding Women's wrestling down. She put the kibosh on the Jumping Bomb Angels vs Glamour Girls at Wrestlemania 2. Her matches were usually these half terrible comedy, half terrible wrestling 15 minute long bore fests. She was involved in screwing over Richter in November 1985 and pretty much killed the Women's Title for almost a decade depending on how you value Alundra's run. I'm not even counting the alleged abuse of the female talent. She was just the shits. Vince took her out of the ring in 84 to manage Leilani Kai and she should have stayed in that role because she was very effective. Just ugh.

Yeah, didn't Moolah pretty much put the brakes on the Jumping Bomb Angels when they started to get over in WWF?

Beat me to it.

lol wtf was literally going to use the word kibosh, but then was like "nah"

freaking out right now

Like if you go back and watch women's matches not involving Moolah from like 83-85, they are having very fun matches. Not even counting the JBA/Crush Gals vs Glamour Girls in 86-87.

Yeah, I'm not as familiar with the stateside workers from that era, but what little I have seen, they knew how to work.

If Moolah kept to managing, you could have had her as the mega heel manager bringing in heels to challenge Richter like Judy Martin, Leilani Kai , Dump Matsumoto, Despina Montages. There was stuff to work with there and she killed it.

Check out Princess Victoria and Velvet McIntyre who were the first Womens Tag champs. They were a great team.
You also had Judy Martin, Peggy Lee, Leilani Kai, Despina Montages, Penny Mitchell, Deisree Peterson, Donna Christenello(she was kinda old by then), Wendi Richter of course, Susan Starr, Sherri Martel later on (always thought she was overrated). But yeah, the talent was right there and they were all wrestling throughout 83-86 WWF. Mix in the Japanesse talent too.

Forgot where I read it before but women's wrestling in the US could have turned out a lot more differently had it kept following the trend of Mildred Burke instead of being overtaken by Moolah. Mae Young pretty much comes from Burke's side of wrestling and not Moolah's but she lacked the same level of influence to change things which is why Moolah remained dominate for decades.

Pretty much can pinpoint where it starts to diverge when Burke got divorced. It then moves more into Moolah's side after Moolah realizes she was never going to be a big star in women's wrestling unless she took it over and watered it down to match her lower skill level.

Well, Paige's movie was good. I mean all of her movies were great but Fighting with My Family was good.

You're absolutely right. Her ex husband Billy Wolfe royally fucked over Mildred Burke and basically had her blackballed from the NWA and completely broke.

Wow. Moolah was a piece of shit.

And that's aside from the abuse allegations.
Marvellous!

Is Moolah the most selfish person in wrestling history? I’m genuinely not trying to be hyperbolic, but she’s got to be pretty high up there.

Re: the fans/women’s wrestling: WWE didn’t care. If they don’t the fans aren’t. Gerty said something similar, and it’s spot on. Part of the work is leading your audiences. WWE led them very conclusively to the point of “this isn’t serious.”

Moolah also blocked the women responsible for getting women's wrestling legalized in NY from working WWWF shows in the early '70s.

Psychopaths usually are quite selfish.

I’m trying to empathise with Moolah as an exercise. Being a woman in the industry must have been tough. But she made it so much tougher. She truly was a monster.

I hope she's enjoying Hell right now