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GD 04-08-2019 01:51 PM

The "Post WrestleMania 35" Monday Night RAW Thread
 
Will we see more call-ups from NXT? What will the fallout be as we make our way to the "International Superstar Shakeup" scheduled for next week...

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Jordan 04-08-2019 02:15 PM

I have to work tonight so I won't be watching. Maybe we can start the thread around 12am eastern standard?

Evil Vito 04-08-2019 02:29 PM

I have a feeling there aren’t going to be any more call-ups since they’ve already brought a ton of people up this year and don’t seem to have plans for any of them other than Black and Ricochet.

GD 04-08-2019 02:38 PM

Yeah! The main rosters are already bloated and they're not doing a good job of handling the amount of talent they have. Would it hurt to ship underutilized talent like Breeze, Crews, Brooke etc. back to NXT in order to refresh them? It (somewhat) worked for Tyson Kidd.

slik 04-08-2019 02:50 PM

Plz no more callups

slik 04-08-2019 02:50 PM

Probably something lame like Seth vs Baron Corbin and Becky Lynch vs Lacey Evans or w/e

RP 04-08-2019 03:09 PM

I didnt watch the last 2 matches. Gonna try to catch up today. Just too much wrestling. They really need to trim 2 hours off that show. I fell asleep. And the show was not boring me at all. I just cant watch wrestling for that long. Trim the Women's tag match down. Get rid of the Kurt Angle retirement match because it was obviously crap and made zero sense. I dont need a 4 minute HHH or Balor entrance. Trim the entrances down entirely. Also dont need a 25 minute HHH vs Batista match though i'll be honest, I really liked that match. Even though Batista fell through the ropes during his entrance.

GD 04-08-2019 03:10 PM

There was a time when Corbin had really short matches on NXT and everyone was okay with it.

RP 04-08-2019 03:13 PM

I like Corbin and i might make a thread about this.

Droford 04-08-2019 03:27 PM

Bray Wyatt should be back it's a matter of what show he's on

Big Vic 04-08-2019 03:28 PM

If "AJ vs Daniel Bryan" have a 60 minute iron man match at Mania "HHH vs ____" will go for 61 minutes

Droford 04-08-2019 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5241728)
I didnt watch the last 2 matches. Gonna try to catch up today. Just too much wrestling. They really need to trim 2 hours off that show. I fell asleep. And the show was not boring me at all. I just cant watch wrestling for that long. Trim the Women's tag match down. Get rid of the Kurt Angle retirement match because it was obviously crap and made zero sense. I dont need a 4 minute HHH or Balor entrance. Trim the entrances down entirely. Also dont need a 25 minute HHH vs Batista match though i'll be honest, I really liked that match. Even though Batista fell through the ropes during his entrance.

I watched 3 hours on Friday night on TV 6 hours at MSG Saturday and 7 at MetLife yesterday but I don't feel burnt out except for my knees hurting like hell

Bad News Gertner 04-08-2019 03:57 PM

Ambrose is gonna attack Raw and it will turn out that Ambrose leaving complete with missing Wrestlemania was a Brian Pillmanesque swerve from the bootleg Brian Pillman himself.

Big Vic 04-08-2019 04:13 PM

Will he threaten to piss in ROHs ring next?

RP 04-08-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5241738)
I watched 3 hours on Friday night on TV 6 hours at MSG Saturday and 7 at MetLife yesterday but I don't feel burnt out except for my knees hurting like hell

You're the gold standard Droford. As always.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:29 PM

Ryder & Hawkins to lose the belts, I think. Not sure to who. I’m going to guess it will be a random SmackDown team making no sense prior to the draft. I’ll go...Rusev & Nakamura, but The Bar would not shock me.

Maybe Mojo and someone like Jinder? Seems very WWE.

I can see Matt Riddle and Undisputed Era called up. Vince was probably impressed by them. I think Sasha is going to turn on Bayley too, just because why else lose the tag belts?

Bad News Gertner 04-08-2019 04:36 PM

Ryder & Hawkins = The B Team by May

slik 04-08-2019 04:38 PM

Plz no more NXT callups....

slik 04-08-2019 04:38 PM

LARS should return tonight and challenge Seth for the title and then win the belt

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman King Gertner (Post 5241760)
Ryder & Hawkins = The B Team by May

If that. I think B-Team will appear more.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:46 PM

Jesus Christ, Curtis Axel has been on the main roster for about 9 years now. He has been Curtis Axel for 6.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 04:47 PM

lol Lars. No thanks. WWE logic has me thinking Dean Ambrose might be going after Seth. If not him then for sure Corbin. Drew isn't going to get Seth fresh off a loss to Reigns.

Ryder & Hawkins are going to end up facing Ricochet and Black with the way things are going.

Is Kairi on the main roster now after last night? Either way, I see her on the main roster soon. Maybe Bazler too if Ronda is leaving. Undisputed Era also probably on their way up. Hopefully they send a few acts down though to compensate.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:48 PM

Felt like he was on the bubble until his Axelmania stuff started. Finding a comedy niche really may have saved the guy.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5241774)
Jesus Christ, Curtis Axel has been on the main roster for about 9 years now. He has been Curtis Axel for 6.

Wow I had completely forgotten that he was McGillicutty with the Nexus.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:49 PM

I can see Black & Ricochet besting Ryder & Hawkins in their “hometown” and then being confused about why the crowd gives them a bit of shit. Very WWE.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 04:51 PM

I feel like Axel just had bad luck by coming along at the wrong time. I think he would have been a much bigger deal in his dads generation. His look, his style, everything about him just makes me think he would have been way better off in the business 20-30 years ago.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:52 PM

Last time I watched Raw, Axel and Dallas were doing a segment hocking merch, and Axel made a reference to being Intercontinental Champion. Was actually one of the highlights on the show.

Kind of want to see a Mean Street Posse vs. B-Team feud.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:53 PM

Remember when WWE were sincerely trying to present Bo Dallas as a babyface who could carry a company? “The smile for miles.”

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:56 PM

So weird that Axel got that push in 2013 basically because Brock and Rock had both separately put in words for him (well, Brock is a long-time friend). I like Axel, but it makes you wonder what someone like Rock saw. Like, did he think he was going to show all this charisma?

Sepholio 04-08-2019 04:58 PM

I do not remember him being pushed at a "carry the company" level. But yea, I remember his original push. But his gimmick, while funny, was never ever going to get over. I remember they soured on him and that push ended pretty quickly.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 04:59 PM

A random Curtis Axel fact: He has three sons. I know two of them are named Brock and Blade. They immediately are the manliness of men and carriers on of the Hennig legacy.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 05:01 PM

Curtis should have been given the Mr Perfect gimmick to carry on his dads legacy. Cocky heel role. I really think it would have worked but at the same time......it's kinda Dolph Zigglers thing to an extent I guess.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 05:01 PM

By that I mean Ziggler was already playing the Hennigesque cocky heel character.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 5241786)
I do not remember him being pushed at a "carry the company" level. But yea, I remember his original push. But his gimmick, while funny, was never ever going to get over. I remember they soured on him and that push ended pretty quickly.

Lol, this was in NXT. Before he got the mock inspirational gimmick as a heel they were pushing him as blue-chipper and as the future of the industry. The fans turned on him and he turned the shtick up to 11, talking about how he defended the belt in Cam-BO-dia and all that.

Evil Vito 04-08-2019 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5241778)
I can see Black & Ricochet besting Ryder & Hawkins in their “hometown” and then being confused about why the crowd gives them a bit of shit. Very WWE.

I don’t think they’ll get any shit. The crowd was hot for Hawkins last night because it was a fun underdog story, but the money (well not really money but you know what I mean) was in the chase for him to get the win. It happened.

Black and Ricochet are two of the IWC’s favorites in a crowd almost exclusively filled with them.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5241791)
Lol, this was in NXT. Before he got the mock inspirational gimmick as a heel they were pushing him as blue-chipper and as the future of the industry. The fans turned on him and he turned the shtick up to 11, talking about how he defended the belt in Cam-BO-dia and all that.

OOOOH. Wasn't thinking about his NXT run. Honestly I look at NXT as a completely separate entity from WWE. I know it isn't but the product is so vastly different from everything else WWE that it just doesn't feel like they are the same thing. I was talking purely his main roster debut and his short lived push there as the inspirational Bo Dallas.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 05:04 PM

Axel never had the same charisma as his dad. Cocky heel would have felt so forced. He feels more like what his grandfather would have been. He seems a man’s man, and a flannel vest-wearing farmboy sort of straight-shooter.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5241794)
I don’t think they’ll get any shit. The crowd was hot for Hawkins last night because it was a fun underdog story, but the money (well not really money but you know what I mean) was in the chase for him to get the win. It happened.

Black and Ricochet are two of the IWC’s favorites in a crowd almost exclusively filled with them.

The crowd won’t care. Let’s put it that way.

xrodmuc316 04-08-2019 05:44 PM

I hope we don't get anymore NXT callups. Nobody from that brand should ever get called up again unless WWE is instantly putting them in the main event.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 06:44 PM

I’d be fine with Matt Riddle winning the Universal Title tonight.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 07:20 PM

Or Brock, Riddle & McIntyre vs. Roman, Seth & Braun with Riddle getting the fall. Huge fan of that guy.

Danny Electric 04-08-2019 08:16 PM

Shock the System.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:17 PM

Can definitely see these guys turning up.

Thought of another team to possibly beat Ryder & Hawkins: Fandango & Breeze. Fandango is cleared and I can see them coming back as heels and getting a token run.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:20 PM

I thought about making an Ascension joke, but I don't think even WWE would go that low.

Danny Electric 04-08-2019 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5241873)
Can definitely see these guys turning up.

Thought of another team to possibly beat Ryder & Hawkins: Fandango & Breeze. Fandango is cleared and I can see them coming back as heels and getting a token run.

With them not being in the tag picture at the moment and Adam Cole losing the title match I can definitely see it, especially as they are starting to push through the next group of people at NXT.

I just don’t want to watch them get ruined on the main roster. Their the kind of faction they will feed to a John Cena or Stone Cold for a comedy moment at WrestleMania

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Electric (Post 5241880)
With them not being in the tag picture at the moment and Adam Cole losing the title match I can definitely see it, especially as they are starting to push through the next group of people at NXT.

I just don’t want to watch them get ruined on the main roster. Their the kind of faction they will feed to a John Cena or Stone Cold for a comedy moment at WrestleMania

Oh yeah, 100%. I could even see them getting the Radicalz treatment and losing as soon as they come up.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:31 PM

I could also see it just being Adam Cole who gets the call. Kyle O'Reilly actually seems to be getting better in NXT. I can see them staying together as a threesome in NXT for the time being, while Cole slums it on the main roster.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:33 PM

There's no way Vince doesn't watch the Takeovers when he hears news coming out of it, no matter what people say, and there's no way he saw Matt Riddle and Adam Cole's performance and didn't froth at the mouth. Adam Cole has got a lot of Shawn Michaels in him, and Riddle is just fantastic. I'd be very surprised if they're not getting a real hard look at right now.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:35 PM

Given that neither won the belt and the plan seems to still go forward with Shayna vs. Bianca Belair, I think Kairi Sane & Io Shirai will get called up as a tag team, but I think they are more likely for Smackers. But sometimes they put NXT talent on both shows, so maybe they do Sasha & Bayley vs. Kairi & Io and then have Sasha turn on Bayley after the match and put Io & Kairi up for grabs in the draft, or just don't even mention the draft.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:36 PM

From NXT, those are really my picks. But they often throw someone really random in there. Like a Riddick Moss or something. Just someone that you don't see much of but Vince likes the shtick of. An Eric Bogenhagen or whatever his name is. Maybe he interrupts Elias while Elias whinges and that is your big feud on Raw going forward, because of course.

It's kind of useless to speculate and predict, since so much of this company is just based on whims.

Danny Electric 04-08-2019 08:39 PM

Can see Io and Kairi eventually winning the belts but on a NXT show which would be a good promotion and also cos they said the belts would be contested across all 3 shows.

Also Undisputed Era getting called up and beating Hawkins and Ryder for the belts would get a massive pop from the crowd even though they are hometown boys and WWE would probably think they would get booed.

slik 04-08-2019 08:39 PM

I'd prefer no one gets called up

I assume LARS will finally debut and maybe Lacey will wrestle

slik 04-08-2019 08:39 PM

Maybe AOP returns and wins the tag belts, IDK

Danny Electric 04-08-2019 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5241895)
Maybe AOP returns and wins the tag belts, IDK

I had completely forgot about them.

ClockShot 04-08-2019 08:43 PM

No callups.

Let the fans run the Rawaftermania show like they always do.

If there's anything crazy I'd expect, perhaps a farewell from Dean Ambrose? He wrapped up yesterday, right?

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:45 PM

Thing is, this crowd is probably the best crowd to debut people in front of. And people have come to expect it. And the NXT talent is already there. Sure, the draft starts next week, but they've never stuck to their rules, and they can always introduce people and be like "The Superstar Shakeup is happening next week!"

Danny Electric 04-08-2019 08:46 PM

They’ll probably break up Ricochet and Aleister Black and change his name to Black.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 08:55 PM

I can see Vince hating the name "Aleister." I would have said that just calling him "Black" would be ridiculous, but we do have "Ali."

Emperor Smeat 04-08-2019 08:58 PM

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RP 04-08-2019 09:00 PM

Long winded Seth Rollins Promo to open the show i bet

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5241906)
I can see Vince hating the name "Aleister." I would have said that just calling him "Black" would be ridiculous, but we do have "Ali."

Ironically enough, at WM when they were announcing him, I was ready for them to just say "Aleister", and when the ring announcer followed it with "Black" I was "pleasantly surprised"

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:01 PM

Cole's voice still in rough shape

ClockShot 04-08-2019 09:01 PM

Add Beast Slayer to Seth Rollins' long list of nicknames.

Evil Vito 04-08-2019 09:01 PM

How long until they remind us that these fans’ opinions don’t count?

RP 04-08-2019 09:01 PM

I think Becky has a really small vagina and that's why she dates Seth Rollins because he has a small penis.

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:02 PM

The King-Beast Slaying Architect Seth Freakin' The Man Rollins

(I guess he can't use The Man anymore, almost forgot he had that one)

ClockShot 04-08-2019 09:02 PM

So that's where all the pyro went.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 09:03 PM

Lol, kind of weird that a couple in wrestling used the same nickname.

KIRA 04-08-2019 09:03 PM

Ok so new season rings crossed Vince got hit by a truck or had a stroke and is Triple H running the show

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 09:04 PM

Lol, what? Is Triple H in charge?

Emperor Smeat 04-08-2019 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 5241912)
Cole's voice still in rough shape

Yeah, they should have given him tonight off to rest his voice.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 09:04 PM

don't be lame Rollins.....

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5241919)
Lol, kind of weird that a couple in wrestling used the same nickname.

Are Seth and Becky dating? This thread is the first I have heard of it.....

ClockShot 04-08-2019 09:06 PM

Can totally see Roman getting re-injected back into the title scene now.

Triple A 04-08-2019 09:06 PM

Seth Rollins insanely generic face personality........... sucks so much

Evil Vito 04-08-2019 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 5241916)
I think Becky has a really small vagina and that's why she dates Seth Rollins because he has a small penis.

This is the first I’ve heard of them dating.

Pretty much figured once she dumped her MMA boyfriend that she’d date someone in WWE. Think it’s nearly impossible for WWE wrestlers to date outside of the company now with the amount of travel.

KIRA 04-08-2019 09:07 PM

The Beck Slayer

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5241930)
Seth Rollins insanely generic face personality........... sucks so much

Yeah......

RP 04-08-2019 09:07 PM

YEAHHHHHHHHHHH BOIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:08 PM

Braun Strowman should come out and destroy Seth and win the title tonight

RP 04-08-2019 09:08 PM

BIG E WINS THE UNIVERSAL TITLE CAUSE BLACK WORLD ORDER YAAAAAAAAAAAA

ClockShot 04-08-2019 09:08 PM

This isn't Smackdown.

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:09 PM

Now that Kofi actually has the belt it is like "Ok, this is weird and looks out of place"

Sepholio 04-08-2019 09:09 PM

Going to be interesting to see who is more over at this point: Kofi or Becky.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 09:09 PM

I don't think Seth is a top guy. He just doesn't have "it." He's fun in the ring at a certain level.

ClockShot 04-08-2019 09:09 PM

Mustafa Ali sitting somewhere saying "Son of a bitch. That should have been me!"

RP 04-08-2019 09:09 PM

Becky has to come out too right?

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:09 PM

Think that Xavier/Big E need to turn on him quick so he can get an individual identity back

RP 04-08-2019 09:10 PM

Ya Becky will come out.

slik 04-08-2019 09:10 PM

KofiMania BayBay

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 09:10 PM

Kofi Kingston doesn't feel like a great champion either. Happy for the guy and I think some good will come of it, but he really doesn't feel "heavyweight."

KIRA 04-08-2019 09:10 PM

I missed Seth Rollins interactions with the new day they were gold

RP 04-08-2019 09:10 PM

Becky coming out 100% sure

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 09:12 PM

They're also making this big deal out of Kofi winning, but he's only WWE Champion. It's really not that much different from Sheamus or Jack Swagger winning the World Heavyweight Championship.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 09:12 PM

Big E is not human.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 09:12 PM

Does it look like they are going to unify the belts? I would not be opposed to them having floating champions.

Sepholio 04-08-2019 09:12 PM

Are they gonna do this!? Finalllllly.

Mr. Nerfect 04-08-2019 09:13 PM

Apparently Big E is freakishly huge in person.

Emperor Smeat 04-08-2019 09:13 PM

:lol: Woods imitation of Heyman's "Brock" call.

Lock Jaw 04-08-2019 09:13 PM

Cue Vince


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