Vince's Most Questionable moments
 

Vince McMahon was reportedly so upset that his name was mentioned during Bret Hart's speech at the WWE Hall of Fame, and one of his writers was so convinced he might lose his job over it, that the writer quit before he could be fired.

Also, DX went to town mentioning Vinces name - wonder if that writer commited suicide.


So I thought it would be a good time to make mention of our favorite "Vince decisions and moments" that made us question the "genius" of the man who created Wrestlemania...

READDDDYYYY GOOO!

Well you’d have to mention his way over the top reaction to Titus over the whole Bryan retirement deal.

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Has Booker T ever reacted to that?

I think Vince trying to push for an incest angle between himself/Shane and Stephanie has got to be up there too.

"Tell me he didn't just say that"

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😀 I meant as in a podcast/interview/article.

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Questionable storylines and booking decisions, there is a ton, too many to count.

As for real life, how about running a 3 hour tribute episode to Chris Benoit after he killed his wife and kid?

Yes the full story was not yet out to the public, but it became pretty clear after time went by that WWE knew what had happened a few hours before Raw ever went on the air, and still went with the tribute episode knowing they would need to backtrack after, which Vince did the next night on ECW.

That was a questionable decision.

Having the first person Brock Lesnar lost to after he ended Taker's Mania streak being Taker himself.

Wasted two huge potential star making rubs in favor of Taker getting his "win" back instead. Killed the rub from the streak ending and the rub from Lesnar's streak killing aura.

Shane & Vince v. Shawn and "God":

Not gonna lie, the special effects from that gimmick were pure comedy. The spotlight in the corner, McMahon acting like the ground was shaking, classic!


And Vince doing the HHH Spit with the holy water, amazing.

One where he wasn't directly involved on-camera (the infamous segment that was pre-taped, and furthermore approved by WWE to air hours after the 7/7/2005 London bomb attacks):



OOF.

Rita Chatterton (allegedly)

Oh duh, I know. Basically anything he has attempted outside of wrestling lol.

Ico-Pro
WBF
XFL
WWF New York

Dude is real good at throwing money down the tubes that he could have used for Wrestler's pensions, you know, the ones that made him the money in the first place.

I’ve often wondered if Vince is a genius with idiot tendencies or an idiot with genius tendencies.

any time he deals with hbo

covering up Jimmy Snuka murdering his girlfriend.

Mabel as King Of The Ring

The booking of 90% of the Kings after KOTR

The Viking Experience.

Hiring back Brock who has literally phoned in every match since his return? Yet the old man thinks Monkey boy is box office..

Which return?

Lesnar was the definition of printing money from Mania 30-Hell in the Cell the following year. A solid 18 months. After that, he pretty much phoned it in lol.

He didn't phone it in before that either.

Matches with Bryan and AJ we really good too.

This may be more questioning his sanity but his absolute Banning of the word wrestling.


Loudly proclaiming the women's Revolution while heading to a region of the world with the worst women's rights/ human rights record imaginable. ( yes the money but still it comes across as really disingenuous

His mocking of Jr's Bell's palsy every time I think about that it pisses me off.

He had this annoying tendency to play out his personal grudges in the ring and then be surprised when the fans s*** all over it

What a coincidence, that is.

Very strange. :eek:

I remember in like 2008 or 2009 they briefly banned the word "superstars" and all of the male wrestlers had to be referred to as "entertainers"

It sounded so fucking dumb, and even WWE realized it as they went back to superstars within a couple of weeks

Because he's a loon with an inferiority complex. He hates his background, being brought up in a caravan in North Carolina, his whole success is based on what was viewed for many years (and still is in some places) as redneck entertainment "Pro Wrestling" and that's something he seemingly can't stand. Hence the whole "sports entertainment \ superstar" shit, instead of Wrestling and Wrestler.

He said on the Austin podcast "pro wrestling" was what his dad did, and not what he does. What is he doing that makes it so much different in his mind? It's the same basic premise with a bigger budget behind it.

How about having a draft lottery, then changing his mind and randomly moving people back 6 days later lol

Googling this at 11.59pm still technically ruined my day.

With his dad, the names on the marquee were the wrestlers in the Main Event

With Vince , it's the WWE on the marquee. His dad sold the wrestlers, Vince sells the brand. That's the difference.

Maybe so but you have to have people that fans want to see for the brand to go anywhere. Vince seems to be under the delusion he doesn't do "wrestling" at all.

He can call it whatever he wants. Call it Not Wrestling. It's not wrestling is it. It wasn't wrestling in the 90's when he finally admitted it was fixed, it wasn't wrestling in the 50's,60's,70's and 80's when everybody knew but nobody was talking in public and it wasn't wrestling in the Lewis, Gotch, Burns days either when they first realised that a staged fight could be a bigger attraction than a carnival and could be done over and over again ad infinitum as long as nobody was really trying to kill the other guy because the next town over would want to see it too.

Wrestling is often terribly boring. That's why one David Shultz is a star to this day and the other one only got famous for being shot dead by a crazy millionaire and being played by Mark Ruffalo in the movie. A movie he isn't even the focus of.

So that's what wrestling gets ya. Shot in the driveway by Steve Carell.

There are multiple newspaper articles dating back to the 30's calling wrestling fixed.
Jack Pfefer went public in the media about wrestling being fixed.

It's not amateur wrestling, which is real, it is "pro" wrestling which is choreographed.

Brock can phone it in with a good wrestler, ask Rollins and Ambrose.

There are articles dating back to the late 1800's man.

I doubt there's an era of wrestling that doesn't have plenty of evidence supporting the notion it was entirely worked.
That Turkish invasion thing was funny when I read about it last year.

I was delighted when I found out all of that stuff was just as fake as Hulk Hogan. It proves that history is better off reimagined than revisited.

It's Sports Entertainment or Not Wrestling or whatever Vince tells us it is.

No wrestling is wrestling. Even the Greeks took cash dives.

Vince is fulla shit though. :nono:

Yup, a buddy of mine posted a couple from the 1800s a while back

How many world championships did Abe Lincoln win in his career? :shifty:

I think Vince was the only person in the company that found Big Dick Johnson's appearances to be a knee slapper.

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The Saudi deal is a ticking time-bomb for WWE. It could seriously be one of the dumbest fucking decisions the company has ever made. Short-term gain for potentially ostracizing future generations of fans and blackballing themselves from sponsors and maybe even TV networks should there be one really fast or really slow news day, and WWE becomes a prominent target for the media.

Let's be honest, does anyone REALLY care about the WWE doing these shows in Saudi Arabia? Judging by their stock prices they don't

I fully expect to wake up one day and find that he's changed the name from World Wrestling Entertainment to just World entertainment so when they call themselves The W E I can derisively start mocking them as women's entertainment Network

they have the benefit of being bottom of the barrel. Nothing they do can really hurt them beyond another wrestler murdering their family.

Vince is preparing a bid for E! as we speak.

Literally nobody cares. It’s pro wrestling. Nothing “mainstream” cares at all about pro wrestling.

You've failed to remember that Noid is a giant idiot.

Not right now, but if it becomes hot-button that could change and the history is forever tied to them. They slip under the radar right now because they're not mainstream, but when they have a lead-in of 6 million people in October or they go over while there is some sort of crisis, as is prone to happen, then suddenly it could become a story. And that's when that stock price will take a drop.

They lost $5 million last time. Obviously not a net loss, but it's demonstrably not true that "literally nobody cares."

People will care for a day like the John Oliver piece and move on because some other persin/company will do something worse and so on and so on

Going to make it hard to make new fans and younger fans though. You can get away with shit until you don't. If it becomes a story and WWE becomes "toxic," there's no guarantee that it won't be easier for business partners to just drop them. Then you'll see that stock price effected.

When it does start to affect the stock, it's probably too late to do anything to rectify it, because the investors are only going to panic about $40 million shows or whatever when the stink from dirty whore work won't wash out.

Surprised nobody has mentioned deciding to go on with Over the Edge 1999 after Owen was killed in that horrific accident.

I think the Brawl For All belongs in this thread too.

* Greasing the wheels of justice for Jimmy Snuka (allegedly)

* Rita Chatterton (allegedly)

* The tanning salon (allegedly)

* Airing the Chris Benoit tribute show

* The way he treats JR

* Melanie Pillman interview

* The exploitation of real life deaths on WWE TV

Speaking of deaths, he probably could've waited a few years and not had Eddie go in with the 2006 class, especially considering his family didn't want it at the time.

I also feel a by-product of Eddie's death was Rey getting shoehorned into the world title match @ WM 22, which was originally supposed to be between Angle and Orton. I still wonder from time to time what could've been. I ideally would've loved seeing Orton win the title. Really seemed like it should've been the time to put him back on the pedestal he had been prematurely elevated to a year and a half before at SummerSlam 2004.

Rey's push itself was fine. I was hearing someone talk about it recently, and they actually suggested him getting the belt in 2004 when Eddie cracked under the pressure. I've also heard Booker T suggested for the spot.

I would have preferred a straight forward Angle vs. Rey match without any of the Eddie nonsense around it. Their SummerSlam '02 match is one of my favorite short matches and openers ever.

Oh Yeah, the Melanie Pillman interview... There's a special place in hell for Vince for that alone...

Well, King Booker did take it from him within 4 months at The Great American Bash. He had a pretty entertaining run, too.

I meant Booker taking it from Eddie in 2004.

They're trying to get new fans in the middle east by going there. So what's going to make it hard to make new fans by going to these non-traditional markets?

I don't think airing the Benoit tribute show should be on that list of WWE's transgressions. They found out about his death only a few hours by showtime and when it went on the air very few of the details were known.

Based on a few shoots I've heard, the wrestlers were all sent home and most of them were watching the Benoit show from their hotels - and it wasn't until midway through the show that speculation of it being a murder-suicide was starting.

I suppose WWE could've abruptly cut the episode halfway through and pivoted to random classic non-Benoit matches, but the details were still so murky by then I can understand why they didn't. They made up for it the next day by opening ECW with Vince basically saying fuck Chris Benoit and that was that.

The way Bart Gunn was punished after the Brawl For All stands out as a particularly nasty, pointless and destructive piece of booking in WWE history. Presumably Vince had to be involved.

Lol, they’re trying to get paid out the ass to be a propaganda firm for a regime that disregards human rights. It’s not a great look in a world where kids are increasingly becoming more aware about these things as consumers.

They knew. They just wanted to have their cake and act surprised when it came out it was made with feces and bad eggs.

Oh fuck off with that display.

Ban Noid

?

Carl De Marco knew hours before show-time and let them know. It's possible they were all just in this collective state of denial, but it's more likely that they didn't want to admit guilt until it became an actual news story, because that would have bounced back on them knowing that wrestling makes people crazy and/or that their Wellness policy wasn't up to scratch.

They also made up the Fragile X. WWE were awful around this whole thing. Yeah, it's a mess, but is it so hard for Vince to come out and say "Look, we're learning new stuff about this all the time. Benoit was a professional, but some of the news we've heard has challenged and disturbed us. We will not celebrate until we know for sure that we can have a clean conscience. We plan to do what we do best -- entertain -- so here is some first-run footage we have cataloged. Thank you to our wonderful fans for their patience."

You can take a step back while making it look unexpected without putting your fingers in your ears and hoping you don't get shit on you. And trying to blame the fictional condition of a little boy for the stresses that drove the man to do this, as opposed to the concussed cocktail he was.

I remember Nash being one person who didn't think WWE should've done the Benoit tribute. As for the Saudi Arabia deal, I think there was one or two known politicians speaking on it b/c there were a few ppl on my Twitter TL who responded how WWE was getting flack for the same thing other businesses were doing.

Noid doesn't understand that posting then immediately quoting that post is spectacularly first-female-offspring behaviour.

Ban Noid ffs

What the fuck does first-female-offspring behavior mean?

Regal knew from his interview that they recorded earlier during the day too.

Entitled little girl

Lol, how does that even fit?

Brilliant. So you've never met a girl or aren't allowed around children.

Hey, I'm not the one having a sook. I hope you have the appropriate support networks in place to get you through this difficult time.

I am having a sook.

I love it.

he only said that because you are a fucking nimrod, Noid.

Noid doesn't even know his own TPWW meme.

The fact that he won and they pretty much took him off TV is baffling.

Off to Japan with you but not before a boxing match with a man monster

Is ban Noid even a thing? This is really labored.

You may be overestimating how hard it is to say "Ban Noid"

But that's not a meme...

You are definitely overestimating your wit.

Seanny One Ball ain't nothin' to fuck wit

This is just like when LJ used Frank's meme on ABT and it caused a whole thing.

Irresponsible meme'ing costs lives.

Noid is the sharp, un-lubed fingernail that penetrates the butthole of life.

Noid is the "taking three dicks at once but just the tips cause I'm not a slut" of life.

Noid is akin to 5 days worth of constipation catching up with you when you're about to get lucky.

He's the "barium meal for every meal" of life.

He's like meeting the girl of your dreams only to realize Nickleback is her favorite band.

#POTY

Noid is like absent mindedly playing with the underside of the seat you're sitting on only to realise that your fingers are now covered in snot, chewed gum and bum crumbs.

Noid is finishing a shit only to realize you didn't successfully finish wiping.

Noid is also like starting to wipe when you haven't even finished shitting

Noid is like discovering your chocolate eclair is filled with cum

Noid is like needing to take a shit right after you've gotten out of the shower