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Bully Ray/Fan incident backstage at ROH show
I feel like there has to be more to this story....otherwise Bully Ray sounds crazy
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OK story time... I avoided saying anything until the show was over to avoid any further issue but... this honestly soured my to ROH in a big way. Honest to god story that can be backed up by about half a dozen people... <a href="https://t.co/8ECk6ewxJ3">https://t.co/8ECk6ewxJ3</a></p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135413375138009089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Side note. I love and respect like 99% of all wrestlers. I honest to god never try to make the show ABOUT me, get myself over, etc. My rule of thumb is to boo the bad guys and cheer the good guys. It’s rare that I’ll flip the script but I always decide to go along with the show</p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135415823739179008?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">At some point Velvet Sky seemingly loses her cool & is challenging me to come in the ring. Tells me to suck it, calls me a pussy, etc<br>No prob. Get your heat<br><br>She calls me a virgin. I remind her she has sex with that fat turd Bully Ray. Call them the tramp stamp trio. End segment</p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135418096200536064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">She goes to the back. Fast forward about five minutes & I get a tap on the shoulder<br><br>“Hey, we’re with security and need to talk to you about an incident that occurred”<br><br>Immediately I think of the Allure stuff but think that maybe Mandy got in trouble for spitting/face palming me</p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135418723118878720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Security takes me legit backstage. I’m still perplexed by the entire thing and was honestly very hesitant to follow them because they kept saying “we need to talk to you about an incident”.<br>No details behind just leading me into the back. What’s happening? What’s waiting for me?</p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135420244757868544?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Suddenly BULLY RAY comes out from a back room. Full on gear since he was in the opening segment of the show and he looks PISSED. Much bigger than me so I’m kinda taking a step back on this here. Security backs off and it’s just us two</p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135421572766846976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’m not trying to act tough. I was legit being intimidated with purpose and I wasn’t about to get kicked out during match 3 so I just bit the bullet and said “sure... yes sir... yeah, I understand... yup...”<br>He said “End of convo. Go be a fan”<br><br>Security led me back to my seat</p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135424195511275520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">That’s the end in regards to a timeline of events.<br><br>The whole thing is still completely unbelievable and surreal, honestly.<br><br>I’ve gone to live events for 15 years and been following wrestling for 22 years. Never once heard of something like this happening</p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135425781490827264?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Gross.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Matt Taven informed me that no one has hairy armpits anymore and rubbed my head in his armpit <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/roh?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#roh</a></p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1135410604477374464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Lol, Bully Ray has always struck me as the fat kid who thinks he is tough and cool because the older kids let them sit with him a couple of times because his mom gave him chocolate milk and they want to take it. Totally strikes me as the sort of dude that would get hyper-protective of the hot piece he has conned into banging him with status.
I mean, that's just my completely made-up impressions, but the guy has always sounded like a toss-pot whenever anyone talks about him in interviews. One of those guys that sucks up to anyone higher than him and spits on anyone lower. Got no time for the guy, because I honestly think he sucks and even if his small fish, tiny pond TNA gimmick was good, I have no desire to see him anywhere ever again. Plus, ROH sucks these days, and apparently it's largely his fault. |
is that bully rays be a star moment
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Hes not going to be on Busted Open until Wednesday
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Apparently he made a "jerk off and cum" motion towards Velvet Sky
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Felt cute, might delete later <a href="https://t.co/sPmoHbjspj">pic.twitter.com/sPmoHbjspj</a></p>— Osh Kosh Big Josh (@xIAMHOLLYWOODx) <a href="https://twitter.com/xIAMHOLLYWOODx/status/1089006674646425600?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 26, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That's weird but good that Bully didn't do anything stupid.
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thought it was this but..no
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You’re blocked because you’re a complete disrespectful POS and a disgrace to the Air Force.</p>— Bully Ray (@bullyray5150) <a href="https://twitter.com/bullyray5150/status/1135303412709412869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> dudes a creep anyway |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can confirm. I was at State of the Art. Mandy Leon spat on a fan before he and Velvet had back-and-forth following a dark match. Security pulled him to the back afterward. That middle finger Mandy gave during the show was directed at the fan.</p>— Wonderboy Kota Kenny Relationship Goals (@WonderboyOTM) <a href="https://twitter.com/WonderboyOTM/status/1135454420479594497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Via Bully being in business for like 30 + years I assume the fan has a history of behavior
Definitely a bad idea to leave him alone w/ Bully Ray though...seems like a 'bad HR idea' waiting to happen...if dude is misbehaving just kick 'em out. |
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We'll he got free bodily fluids from her....dunno if that's a good or bad thing but hey.
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Sounds like Buh Buh was just keeping it real.
The fan should have brought up his putting women through tables gimmick though. |
Noid seems like the sort of guy who would give a false statement to police to try and impress a girl.
Ugh. |
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Good to finally put a label on it
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Ryan Satin is so annoying
I thought it was funny he was not given press passes at Double or Nothing and pretty much every other reporter was....100% the first thing Satin would have done is ask some interview question about WWE to stir up trouble. |
I just saw a picture of Bixenspan that has to be fake
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It's probably not, I've seen pix of bix b4
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bully Ray is a giant fucking turd of human that’s done more harm than good in ROH. Examples of this year is pushing for bad segments at MSG and his recent intimidation tactics. He offers zero value.</p>— War Room Justin (@badtakejustin) <a href="https://twitter.com/badtakejustin/status/1135500000098521088?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> bully #1 heel |
Bix kind of looks like infamous former TPWW poster, Kane Knight.
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Neckbeard is a term that gets thrown around a lot...
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I have seen Bix in person at MLW twice... He sadly looks like you'd expect when you think of the term "Internet Troll"... I almost wanted to humiliate him via twitter but I figured it was just way to cruel.
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Plus he's shown himself on a netflix doc about the Hogan/Gawker trial, he looked really bad there too but it's worse in person/now.
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Also isn't Kane Knight asian? I just remember that pic of him with a sword so maybe I'm just WWEing the whole thing.
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Kane Knight is a human baconator
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Lol poor Bix
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I like Bix.
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that cuz u kinda look like him too @STD
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No clue why anyone would give a shit about what a mark said. He bought his ticket. Let him enjoy it.
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RealHeat4Lyfe
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ROH launches "internal investigation" following the incident.
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"Go be a fan"
"Well that's what I was doing and here are" |
Most people seemingly on this guy's side now but feel like this could have easily been flipped around as him being some "misogynistic piece of shit fan"
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The fan and Velvet both sounded like they were being immature teenagers. But Velvet tattling on the guy simply for returning an insult that was thrown at him is much worse. That she got offended at that is pretty ridiculous.
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Offending people is the job. The mark paid to talk shit. Thats the transaction.
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I feel like Bully Ray probably didn't even give a shit about the situation and was just looking for free nookie points.
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Unless the guy looks her in the eye and recites her home address and says he coming to kill her puppies I dont see what he could have possibly done that warranted this.
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He seems like a cock, had to make sure he told the world about it on Twitter. Attention seeking.
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Whoever Mandy Lee is apparently spit on the dude too
Would def prefer people in general don't spit on me at events I pay to attend. |
If these chicks can't even handle one lone heckler, then maybe pro wrestling isn't for them. Maybe they should try accounting.
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Mandy Leon would totally get it.
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The thing that is annoying me about this guy's story is how he is like "I would never try to get myself over or make the show about me" when it is obvious that is exactly what he was doing
Sounded like he was loudly heckling everyone in an annoying ass way... There are a lot of fans at shows who think they are really funny and you just want them to shut the fuck up and he def sounds like one of them |
I h8 those fans!
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Gotta say, I thought this would be a lot worse than it sounds. So basically you are being offensive and loudmouthed, possibly abusive, and all that happens is you are taken backstage and reminded to be respectful?
And that’s what I got from reading HIS side of events. |
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Yeah it's mountains out of molehills. Just like the Sonny Kiss/Jim Cornette non-troversy it sounds like wasted angle fodder.
Own it people. Be the heel the world needs. |
that reminds me of chelsee green going off on a fan at an indy show. all those years velvet has been a heel wrestler you would figure she could handle a loudmouth. maybe they can get a good story angle from this, you know the fans will give them hell now.
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Spitting on the fans can't really be styled out though.
The rest is hot air but grogging on a paying customer is way out of line. |
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No if she had shoved the guy or slapped him then maybe but spitting is just horrid and unsanitary. You'd start a riot doing that back in the day.
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I will now sit back and wait for Bully Ray to send me a threatening DM. |
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Spitting is classified as assault in a lot (most? all?) places.
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Only if it doesn't land on anyone. Spitting is battery if the spit connects.
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Kind of wonder what else he said to have it escalate to getting spit on and security taking him to the back for a meeting with Bully.
Going by his story, he didn't really do anything that bad but then again, he also didn't mention anything about doing a jacking off taunt to them which changes things a bit. |
Someone shouts something terrible, some idiot further down is standing right there doing jack off signs and takes the blame for it. Mystery heckler slowly limps off, breaking into a smooth swagger as they shake off their disguise and leave in a car driven by Pete Postlethwaite.
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I mean come on, Bubba Dudley has been threatening to beat up fans for 25 years.
That would be like getting mad at Rikishi for shaking his ass at you! |
ROFL that guy
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Sounds like he's leaving a lot of stuff out on his end.
You gotta be really running your mouth and doing something beyond crazy if you're getting spit on and getting called out either during or after a match. Security at that point should have either stepped and gave him a warning or move his seat. Although, I think Velvet/Bully Ray went a bit to far to bring the guy in back and give him a talking to. That said, yes. As fans if we buy a ticket and "feed the beast" we have every right to boo the heels, cheer the faces. Or vice versa in some cases. We can bring in signs saying whatever we want (to a degree, one way or another). There's lines. Sounds like this guy went a bit too far over his. |
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"I think we can all agree that in 2019, this type of behavior towards women is unacceptable and goes far beyond the scope of, 'I paid for my seat" This is the same guy who in 1998 said "You got a mom in the front row who taught her daughter how to suck dick!" What a world lol |
If Bully's response is to be believed, the backstage interaction between him and the fan was a lot more tamer than the fan told.
Bully did admit that not simply tossing the guy out made this into a bigger mess than it needed to be. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/jKiU9CFrn1">pic.twitter.com/jKiU9CFrn1</a></p>— Bully Ray (@bullyray5150) <a href="https://twitter.com/bullyray5150/status/1135668260077223936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
Yeah the main issue is Bully Ray trying to be a tough guy and intimidating the guy backstage instead of him just being thrown out for being a dickhead
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Going by the several threads on Reddit, seems the origin for this incident revolves around the guy allegedly harassed Velvet Sky on Twitter a couple months ago.
Also seems this wasn't an isolated incident and the guy allegedly was causing issues earlier in the show as well. Then again others who were at the show stated he wasn't causing issues earlier. |
Nothing screams small time like taking a “fan” out back to be intimidated by a “star”(?).
Honestly I don’t care if the guy killed her puppy in the front row, if he was that bad security dropped the ball by not stepping in. If he wasn’t that bad Buh buh (and the ladies) come off as unprofessional softies who seem to not understand a heels job. |
All I got out of this is Mandy Leon spit on this guy. Unless he hopped the rail or tried to grab a handful of tits or pie, there was no reason for that.
I don't care how "hot" she is, that's bullshit. Same people talking about how they'd pay to have that happen to them would be the first ones trying to sue the company if it were someone like Nyla Rose or any other analogue you want to put in there of someone they personally wouldn't want to fuck. |
Spitting on people is a crime
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Lol, Bully takes the guy backstage and is like "I didn't intimidate him." The very action of taking someone backstage into a room they've never been in before where someone else has all the power is intimidation in its very nature.
"I took him down to the room covered in plastic, but I was a total doll about it." Fucking hell, what amateur bullshit. People are trying to do all these gymnastics to make the fan look like shit too. I don't know if he is or not, but they don't have to let him into their shows if he's got this alleged known history. If he's booing the heels and cheering the faces, maybe he's just really into it? You'd think if there was this long history, Bully wouldn't have been so cordial without the use of intimidation, as he insists. |
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So long as she was spitting on my cock for extra lube for the under the table handjob she was giving me |
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I spit on a fan once in the heat of the moment and felt like shit for it. Still kinda do.
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You used to wrestle?
Jim Cornette Twitter has a post on it from "The Draw" saying he spit on Cornette at MLW last night. So not only is someone trying to act tough about this on behalf of a transvestite, he openly admits to committing a crime. Maybe it's a work but Corny suggests the dude won't be back for the company again. There are also numerous other rasslers making fools of themselves using #IStandWithSonny. WTF is life nowadays. This shit needs to stop. Chinless bastards acting untouchable hurling abuse towards people who have done no wrong. This is PETA liberalism. Do as we say or it's inaccurate yet endless abuse and death threats from a bunch of granola eating, canvas shoe wearing fuck heads. |
Probably not a work. Sounds very "now"
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It's wrestlers being carnies.
BTW the wrestler in question is Sami Callahan, who is himself, a gargantuan piece of shit. |
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Tolerance is highly intolerant
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I just imagine these idiots have three feet long necks and they talk with their eyes closed and their chins jutting out like a ship's prow.
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I can’t get past hearing that Bubba Ray has an issue with inappropriate fan interactions. This guy used to try to get fans to fight him, almost caused a riot, and cut promos so vile that ECW almost lost their tv deal with TNN.
Times have changed. |
Listen to Jerry Lawler commentary of any Divas match from that time and you'll hear some shit that hasn't aged well.
The thing in BuhBuh/Bully Ray's case is that it sounds like BuhBuh is still going for fans only this time it's not kayfabe. He shouldn't have gotten involved unless he was going to do it in front of the fans on the mic as part of the show. You'd pop a woke crowd by taking a noisy heckler down Nanette style. Accidental face turn. |
This all really just sounds like Bubba was caping for his girlfriend. I doubt he would care but for her being involved in it.
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Bubba's a two faced piece of shit. The whole "story" is BS, Velvet got booed like a heel for acting like a heel, threw a drama queen fit, and big, bad Bubba stepped in the intimidate a fan & score Nookie points with his hot piece.
I've met Mandy Leone, she was a frigid, joyless bitch. Ever seen one of the workers at a show roll their eyes & make a sour face when a fucking six year old little girl tells them "you're one of my favorites, can I take a photo?" I have. |
6 year olds are the worst
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I’d absolutely shit on a 6 year old at a show if I was a heel.
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What it really comes down to is if this fan was "harassing" Velvet Sky, they should have just kicked him out of the event. The weird mafia stuff seems unnecessary.
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Her job is to make people want to harass her. Heat is dead.
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Well yeah.
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