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Splaya 06-27-2019 10:08 AM

Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff to run WWE TV
 
https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/06...-vince-mcmahon

If this is true, then things could definitely be turning around.

Also could see this being a proactive move to stop them from going to AEW

Rammsteinmad 06-27-2019 10:13 AM

Probably the latter.

LibSuperstar 06-27-2019 10:19 AM

Definitely the latter!

Heisenberg 06-27-2019 10:32 AM

Happy for them to collect some dough either way, freakin' pioneers who pushed against the WWF in the 90s now offering their shields for the incoming battle

slik 06-27-2019 10:44 AM

I doubt the solution to the future is in 1996 but I applaud them for making a genuine effort.

If these are legit creative roles and not onscreen heel figures just a reminder it all still funnels thru Vince at the end of the day, both won't exactly have free creative reign.

rez 06-27-2019 10:46 AM

Nice!

Evil Vito 06-27-2019 10:51 AM

These men were old when I was young and I am now old.

erickman 06-27-2019 10:54 AM

an fu to conrad Tomson wwe steals another of his podcasters. I hope bischoff will be on air he is a great heel.

erickman 06-27-2019 11:05 AM

what would be cool is if they bring back the name wcw for smackdown vince still owns the name.

Innovator 06-27-2019 11:21 AM

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Innovator 06-27-2019 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWInsideher

The announcement today that Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff have signed on with WWE to become Executive Directors of the Raw and Smackdown brands is a legitimate announcement, not a storyline situation.

WWE has been pursuing Heyman to come on board officially in their corporate circles as far back as February, PWInsider.com can exclusively confirm. An offer was issued to Heyman to come on board full-time as a top member of the creative team around the same time Bruce Prichard was brought back as a Senior Vice President but the conversations were slow in progressing. Heyman had been working on certain storylines and with certain talents, including Ronda Rousey, Brock Lesnar, Alexa Bliss and many others dating back far before that point. He's been in the inner circle when it comes to the creative process for some time without an official title. He and WWE have been circling around this deal for a long time and finally came to terms recently.

The Eric Bischoff deal came together within the last several weeks. Bischoff has been working on pre-production of the planned Netflix Hulk Hogan biography film and had a slew of personal appearances booked. Over the last week, he quietly began canceling those appearance dates, so that is likely when he came to official terms with WWE. We are told he will be working directly with FOX as WWE builds their relationship with Smackdown's new home. To say this is a massive return to form for Bischoff is a grand understatement. We are told that WWE approached him about the role and that his previous work in collaborating with Turner Broadcasting. Spike and other networks in building past TV series was one of the reasons Bischoff was pitched for the position.

We are told that they will be overseeing all aspects of their individual series, answering directly to Vince McMahon. They are now the top of the pyramid, respectively, for Raw and Smackdown but obviously McMahon will always have the last say. One WWE source compared their roles to Paul Levesque's in NXT in that they will be in charge, but it's still Vince's company.

Heyman is expected to continue his role as Brock Lesnar's advocate.

There is no word yet whether Bischoff will appear on camera, but given how good of a performer he is, one would think it's just a matter of time.


Evil Vito 06-27-2019 11:31 AM

Vince has finally gotten with the times and realized the Attitude Era doesn't need to be rehashed anymore. So now he's rehashing the Ruthless Aggression Era.

When are Rico, Rodney Mack, and Candice Michelle returning?

Innovator 06-27-2019 11:43 AM

Can't wait for Beefcake to show up on Smackdown

slik 06-27-2019 11:44 AM

While I am skeptical since Vince has final creative say and that hasn't been a good thing for a long time -- I do hope this ends the 'Wild Card Era' and we get definitive rosters again.

Simple Fan 06-27-2019 12:08 PM

Good news, hopefully Vince will be more hands on with the XFL let them work.

Heisenberg 06-27-2019 12:15 PM

Super pumped about this news for some ungodly reason, I don't even have any Infinity Stones to be feeling this good

Big Vic 06-27-2019 12:17 PM

How long before Paul Heyman gets frustrated and leaves?


"No Vince, I don't want to push Shane!"

slik 06-27-2019 12:19 PM

3 weeks after Vince rejects all his ideas and demands a farting gimmick for Otis.

erickman 06-27-2019 12:28 PM

so what happens to trips does he just have nxt

slik 06-27-2019 12:35 PM

HHH will now report to Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman

Sepholio 06-27-2019 12:40 PM

Smackdown to debut on Fox as WCW Smackdown!

Destor 06-27-2019 12:41 PM

Cant see a downside to hiring people who have ran wrestling shows to run a wrestling show

Nicky Fives 06-27-2019 12:56 PM

All depends on how much reign they have. A fresh take can be good, but can also be bad.... Heyman has at least been in the business recently, whereas Bischoff has just been doing the podcast and personal appearance loops....

Ol Dirty Dastard 06-27-2019 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5264677)
Cant see a downside to hiring people who have ran wrestling shows to run a wrestling show

Paul Heyman isn't a bad idea - but I have my doubts about Bischoff, given what happened at the end of WCW/his TNA run, and that he's said many times he's not great at creative.

Like E as a smarmy heel, though.

Gerard 06-27-2019 01:09 PM

And we're meant to believe that Micromanaging Vince still won't have the final say? Doubting it.

Stickman 06-27-2019 01:09 PM

If they can run the shows with their own vision but with Vince’s final say it could be huge. I think the problem may be the PG environment.

Gerard 06-27-2019 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickman (Post 5264685)
If they can run the shows with their own vision but with Vince’s final say it could be huge. I think the problem may be the PG environment.

Vince's final say and micromanaging is what will make it a waste of time, if they had full control to do what they wanted for a few weeks we might see some results. What have they to lose in the long run? Can't be any worse than the shit wwe have been pumping out for an age.

Destor 06-27-2019 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dastardly One (Post 5264683)
Paul Heyman isn't a bad idea - but I have my doubts about Bischoff, given what happened at the end of WCW/his TNA run, and that he's said many times he's not great at creative.

Like E as a smarmy heel, though.

Bischoffs struggle has always been reigning in the talent. He wont have that this time. Im optimistic.

Evil Vito 06-27-2019 01:15 PM

Remember that awful millennial promo that Ronda cut about Becky Lynch who is two days OLDER than Ronda?

That was Heyman's idea.

Doesn't inspire me with a lot of hope that Heyman himself isn't a bit out of touch, but we'll see.

Anybody Thrilla 06-27-2019 01:23 PM

Ronda still had to deliver it, which wasn't her strength. If someone wrote "do you smell what I'm cooking?" in a promo for The Great Khali...

Evil Vito 06-27-2019 01:30 PM

I understand that. But I'm just not sure cutting a promo about somebody's age makes a lot of sense in that scenario.

Evil Vito 06-27-2019 01:31 PM

I will say, this "wild card" shit isn't gonna work if Heyman and Bischoff intend on having two completely different feels for their shows.

Here's hoping they go back to enforcing the split.

James Steele 06-27-2019 01:48 PM

God dammit, give Trips the fuckin’ book!

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-27-2019 01:51 PM

Poor Tony Shavontay.

slik 06-27-2019 01:54 PM

I kind of feel like long-term this will fail, because I can't see Vince all of a sudden handing all this creative power to both and resisting the urge to re-write all of RAW and SDLive at the last minute instead.

Likely just another chapter in 'The Death of WWE' book for Bryan Alvarez.

slik 06-27-2019 01:56 PM

I do think this kills the wild card nonsense, but I think it would be wise to let Easy E and Uncle Paul discuss who they want on their shows and then make switches.

As it stands I can't see Bischoff using say, Sonya Deville or Ember Moon well - but I could see Heyman doing so. Could see Heyman giving Drew more of a personality as well.

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 01:57 PM

Eric Bischoff will be soaking this all up like it was his master plan from the start back in 1993.

Maybe it was. He's had his tongue down Prime Steph McMahon's throat, he had a pretty long run as a talent and now look. All he had to do was wait for Vince to go as insane as the old men he put out of business back in the 80's.

Everything's coming up Bischoff

Destor 06-27-2019 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5264690)
Remember that awful millennial promo that Ronda cut about Becky Lynch who is two days OLDER than Ronda?

That was Heyman's idea.

Doesn't inspire me with a lot of hope that Heyman himself isn't a bit out of touch, but we'll see.

Heyman wrote a segment that didnt work?

Oof. Nevermind then. Get him out of here.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-27-2019 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conspiracy Victim Vito (Post 5264690)
Remember that awful millennial promo that Ronda cut about Becky Lynch who is two days OLDER than Ronda?

That was Heyman's idea.

Doesn't inspire me with a lot of hope that Heyman himself isn't a bit out of touch, but we'll see.

Millennial isn't just about age it's about attitude.

DaveWadding 06-27-2019 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 5264706)
Millennial isn't just about age it's about attitude.

Oh my God, shut the fuck up.

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 02:19 PM

Baby Boomer isn't just about age it's about how many babies explode

slik 06-27-2019 02:22 PM

Going to be interesting in five years when WWE has continued to drop in eyeballs and attendance to the point they really only exist as a 1 hr 'from the vault' show on Fox Sports and a company that does two tours a year in Saudi Arabia after Vince sells the joint because the XFL flops, SD flops on FOX (note, I predict it will do ok for a few months before tanking) and Stock eventually plummets for a multitude of reasons.

slik 06-27-2019 02:22 PM

Of course, the opposite of all that could happen too.

IDK, guess we'll see what the future holds

Destor 06-27-2019 02:25 PM

I dunno what theyre doing to increase they gate but they should be very concerned. Granted for the first time ever the gate isnt paying the bills but thats a huge revenue stream to have hemorrhage like that.

slik 06-27-2019 02:29 PM

I think they've got to lower ticket prices.

I don't know what they pay to rent buildings but ticket prices have gone up considerably the last few years it seems. I think lower prices would help attract people who want to bring their kids to a show, more parents/kids = more butts in seats.

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 02:31 PM

Just imagining Road Wild 2020 resulting in actual Amish Roadkill.

xrodmuc316 06-27-2019 02:34 PM

Heyman was never going to AEW unless Brock did. Bischoff maybe, but that's a giant maybe.

Heyman thinks outside the box and is creative.

Bischoff understands story structure and continuity better than just about anybody in wrestling.

Vince overseeing them is the problem. If he shoots down all of their ideas then what is the point?

If he lets them have creative freedom, both shows will improve greatly.

Also wildcard rule has to end immediately.

Evil Vito 06-27-2019 02:48 PM

I don't want a heel authority figure because it's a very played out trope but I still think Bischoff was the best GM they've had. He's a really great on-screen performer.

Loose Cannon 06-27-2019 02:50 PM

I don't know if AEW would of signed these guys anyway to be honest. maybe Heyman to act as a consultant, but i think the AEW guys are fine on their own. But it is funny seeing the WWE keep on going to the well to make something work. We've had the 24/7 title, Taker/Golderberg and now this announcement recently.


I don't really see these two helping at all. Vince is still running the show and his creative has been pretty shit for a while and he doesn't seem to want to change. They're still a billion dollar company though so i guess why would he? he probably doesn't give a fuck about Monday Night Raw or Tuesday Night Smackdown anymore

Big Vic 06-27-2019 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5264703)
Eric Bischoff will be soaking this all up like it was his master plan from the start back in 1993.

Maybe it was. He's had his tongue down Prime Steph McMahon's throat, he had a pretty long run as a talent and now look. All he had to do was wait for Vince to go as insane as the old men he put out of business back in the 80's.

Everything's coming up Bischoff

Stephanie MOST LIKELY had sex with Bischoff, the kids are probably his.

Big Vic 06-27-2019 02:58 PM

Vince only listen to Russo

hire vince russo,,,,,

Mr. Nerfect 06-27-2019 03:28 PM

Paul Heyman has been involved with creative for a long time and it's fucking sucked. Bischoff has exposed himself as a hack time and time again. This is going to be pretty funny. Guess they have to do something.

Destor 06-27-2019 03:45 PM

Honest question: who would you hire instead?

Mr. Nerfect 06-27-2019 03:47 PM

Honestly, I'm not sure and I wouldn't want to be in that position at all. I think it's way too messy and you probably couldn't pay me enough to want to take on the stress of working with Vince. I'd take a much lower-paid but possible job somewhere else.

slik 06-27-2019 03:53 PM

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DrA 06-27-2019 03:56 PM

At least he got wrestling people and not some writers from Temptation Island or whatever.

Destor 06-27-2019 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5264755)
Honestly, I'm not sure and I wouldn't want to be in that position at all. I think it's way too messy and you probably couldn't pay me enough to want to take on the stress of working with Vince. I'd take a much lower-paid but possible job somewhere else.

Let me ask the question in a different way:

If these two guys arent the guys who you think are fit for the job then who is more qualified then them?

slik 06-27-2019 04:02 PM

Gulp.

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Evil Vito 06-27-2019 04:12 PM

I don’t think Seth as a main eventer is a bad thing in theory. Just give him interesting people to work with. Aka not following up a fun match win AJ with throwing him into a multi-PPV program with Baron fucking Corbin.

slik 06-27-2019 04:12 PM

Seth is a good rassler and a boring face character

Maybe Paul can spice him and Drew up IDK

Emperor Smeat 06-27-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWI
We are told that they will be overseeing all aspects of their individual series, answering directly to Vince McMahon. They are now the top of the pyramid, respectively, for Raw and Smackdown but obviously McMahon will always have the last say. One WWE source compared their roles to Paul Levesque's in NXT in that they will be in charge, but it's still Vince's company.

Probably the most important part of PWI's report.

Everything hings on how Vince is going to act once things start going into motion. If this plan is actually modeled after NXT, then it has a very good chance of succeeding.

If not, then they will eventually just become like Bruce Prichard, who has been very ineffective as the top guy in Creative and as the mediator or "voice of Vince" to Creative.

James Steele 06-27-2019 04:43 PM

To be fair, every face in WWE is brutally boring. They make them single-note and hammer that note into the fucking ground.

xrodmuc316 06-27-2019 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5264768)
Probably the most important part of PWI's report.

Everything hings on how Vince is going to act once things start going into motion. If this plan is actually modeled after NXT, then it has a very good chance of succeeding.

If not, then they will eventually just become like Bruce Prichard, who has been very ineffective as the top guy in Creative and as the mediator or "voice of Vince" to Creative.

Exactly this. In a perfect world Vince fucks off to the XFL and lets them run the brands separately and completely different.

I would let Smackdown have the bigger stars, since Bischoff will give their characters actual story arcs.

I would let Raw have the upper mid card guys, if Paul Heymans tenure as Smackdown head writer in the early 2000's proved anything, it's that Paul can take upper mid card guys and get them to top guys.

They need to get rid of the wildcard, and not have any superstar shakeups for at least 3 years.

Making the the shows truly different brands is the only way to get the ratings up for both shows.

They also need to go back to brand exclusive PPVs.

slik 06-27-2019 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 5264772)
To be fair, every face in WWE is brutally boring. They make them single-note and hammer that note into the fucking ground.

Hi I am insert face wrestler

I love the WWE Universe!

I am doing this for the WWE Universe!!

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 5264734)
Stephanie MOST LIKELY had sex with Bischoff, the kids are probably his.


The Bisch.

It would be like watching Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas go at it.

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 06:22 PM

I'm pretty sure Bischoff will have usurped Triple H to claim Steph and NXT before the year is out. He'll then give NXT to Kevin Nash.

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 06:26 PM


GD 06-27-2019 06:27 PM

More importantly, how will former TPWW poster, Poit react to this?

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 06:31 PM

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Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 06:50 PM

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Fignuts 06-27-2019 07:17 PM

They really do these days.

Mr. Nerfect 06-27-2019 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5264762)
Let me ask the question in a different way:

If these two guys arent the guys who you think are fit for the job then who is more qualified then them?

I'm honestly not sure. It's not that I don't think either has the qualifications, but I'm not sure either is the right guy to pull WWE out of its spiral.

owenbrown 06-27-2019 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 5264697)
God dammit, give Trips the fuckin’ book!

Never thought I would say it, but THIS.

Emperor Smeat 06-27-2019 08:34 PM

According to the Observer, FOX was caught by surprise from WWE's announcement and it turns out they rather have Heyman than Bischoff had WWE actually gave them the choice beforehand.

Emperor Smeat 06-27-2019 10:16 PM

Some conflicting reports regarding why Triple H wasn't picked to head either RAW or Smackdown.

Voices of Wrestling reported that Triple H refused the offer, Pro Wrestling Sheet speculating he didn't want to split time between NXT and a main brand due to the rumors of NXT moving to FS1 later this year, and Fightful debunking both of those reports.

Simple Fan 06-27-2019 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanny One Ball (Post 5264792)
I'm pretty sure Bischoff will have usurped Triple H to claim Steph and NXT before the year is out. He'll then give NXT to Kevin Nash.

I hope this happens in November.

BigCrippyZ 06-27-2019 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 5264772)
To be fair, every face in WWE is brutally boring. They make them single-note and hammer that note into the fucking ground.

True. Outside of the fact that they're feuding or pitted against WWE's similar awful boring, single-note idea of "heels", I don't think they even register or qualify as faces. Though I guess, in theory you could say the same thing about the heels too in a lot of respects.

Tom Guycott 06-27-2019 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5264677)
Cant see a downside to hiring people who have ran wrestling shows to run a wrestling show

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? But it's WWE. They could find the downsides, and then run with those downsides just to try to make the show "better".

Seanny One Ball 06-27-2019 11:49 PM

If anyone fails it will be Heyman.

The Bisch has a glorious head of hair.

Lock Jaw 06-27-2019 11:57 PM

Gonna just post this as my only comment

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Tom Guycott 06-27-2019 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 5264717)
I dunno what theyre doing to increase they gate but they should be very concerned. Granted for the first time ever the gate isnt paying the bills but thats a huge revenue stream to have hemorrhage like that.

Case in point on how they can ruin an upside - remember how they were pushing the network at the exclusion of the PPV market? They not only actively and repeatedly told the audience they were dummies for doing the thing they always did for access to the monthly big show, but got themselves locked into the $10 price point when they could've asked for a bit more just from the strength of those PPVs. As they were, I mean. Now, since the PPVs on average are kinda "meh", the value proposition isn't as high.

Speaking of value, I wonder how much tix are anymore? That might also be compounding the problem. You present fans with a conundrum: spend an estimated $50 or so to go to a house show full of people your weekly TV tells me aren't worth watching for free or browse anything that might strike my fancy on demand for $10 in that month?

Tom Guycott 06-28-2019 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5264765)
Seth is a good rassler and a boring face character

Maybe Paul can spice him and Drew up IDK

Hope it doesn't end up being a reverse Smackdown Six situation, where RAW gets better over time, but then any "new" talent that gets a decent push and proper exposure get shifted to Smackdown in a bid to appease FOX instead of just building their own damn show.

xrodmuc316 06-28-2019 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5264967)
Case in point on how they can ruin an upside - remember how they were pushing the network at the exclusion of the PPV market? They not only actively and repeatedly told the audience they were dummies for doing the thing they always did for access to the monthly big show, but got themselves locked into the $10 price point when they could've asked for a bit more just from the strength of those PPVs. As they were, I mean. Now, since the PPVs on average are kinda "meh", the value proposition isn't as high.

Speaking of value, I wonder how much tix are anymore? That might also be compounding the problem. You present fans with a conundrum: spend an estimated $50 or so to go to a house show full of people your weekly TV tells me aren't worth watching for free or browse anything that might strike my fancy on demand for $10 in that month?

Both great points. I think the network price out of the gate could have been higher, but they also had that weird 6 month commitment for the first 10 months or so.

The ticket prices are in my mind way too high, and they run too many shows.

It's a multi billion dollar company, and Vince is still running 5 to 6 house shows a week to grind out a few extra thousand dollars. He is one greedy sob.

#1-norm-fan 06-28-2019 09:26 AM

Didn’t WrestleMania 28 get like 1.5 million buys? The network does a good job of hiding a loss of interest in PPVs because there’s no way of comparing anymore. But when 1.5 million people are willing to spend $50+ to see WrestleMania and now they’ve basically lowered the price to $10 while also giving an extra FREE PPV, 30 days of free 24/7 content, on-demand access to every major PPV and TV episode ever from multiple companies and a ton of new original productions and they can’t hit 2 million... It’s pretty telling.

Destor 06-28-2019 09:32 AM

Was wrestle mania no viewable on the app?

slik 06-28-2019 11:27 AM

What brand will Nia be on??


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rez 06-28-2019 11:29 AM

As much as I despise her, I can get behind Jax on that one.

Mr. Nerfect 06-28-2019 02:52 PM

I had a dream where first order of business was to hire Jacob Fatu, call him “Rakashi Fatu” and give him the gimmick of being an insult comic. Thought I’d share.

Seanny One Ball 06-28-2019 04:08 PM

I wonder who Eric Bischoff will fire first - The sacrificial lamb...

Triple A 06-28-2019 06:13 PM

Paul Heyman only 53... thought he was a lot older

Was 28-36 during the original ECW

erickman 06-28-2019 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5265127)
Paul Heyman only 53... thought he was a lot older

Was 28-36 during the original ECW

he just always looked old watch him as paul-e danger in wcw he looked 50 there

Fignuts 06-28-2019 07:07 PM

Conversely, I didn’t realize bischoff was that old.

Mr. Nerfect 06-28-2019 08:23 PM

How old Bischoff is/was doesn't surprise me. How young Heyman was does.

Mr. Nerfect 06-28-2019 08:27 PM

Okay, thinking about this with a bit more engagement:

This has to lead to changes, yeah? Like, at first I was like "Vince is still in charge and this isn't going to work." I mean, Heyman has been in creative, and if what we've got to thank him for is the awful Ronda Rousey and Alexa Bliss stuff, then I do question whether he's still got it. I still think that the Vince problem is going to be there as an overarching issue that gets them in the end, but short-term, is there any reason Heyman, more specfically, would agree to this given his alleged willfulness to stay out of official creative positions? I know money talks, but Heyman was no doubt getting paid out the ass already. Bischoff would probably like some glamor back in his life, so it's not so much him I'm thinking about. But they're going to have to be allowed to at least make some unique production decisions, right? Right?

Seanny One Ball 06-28-2019 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Nerfect (Post 5265165)
How old Bischoff is/was doesn't surprise me. How young Heyman was does.



You're such a wee fanny

Seanny One Ball 06-28-2019 08:56 PM

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Emperor Smeat 06-28-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Observer
Regarding the promotinal e-mail blast that went out earlier today pushing Paul Heyman for Raw and Eric Bischoff for Smackdown this week as the big stars in Dallas and San Antonio, that was both legit and a subject of a lot of controversy. It wasn't supposed to be released like that and Bischoff was not even scheduled for the show. The idea is to push the idea that it's all new to boost ratings after the last few weeks. But Bischoff was not even scheduled to be in San Antonio as of this morning (Heyman was to be in Dallas but he's at every Raw). It is possible that Vince McMahon has in the last few hours or will contact Bischoff about being in San Antonio based on the advertising going out.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">On the heels of the announcement by <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> about the new executive directors, it appears that <a href="https://twitter.com/EBischoff?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EBischoff</a> will be at <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SDLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SDLive</a> on Tuesday in San Antonio. We just received this promotional message for tickets. <a href="https://t.co/uaFmegFppT">pic.twitter.com/uaFmegFppT</a></p>&mdash; Sports Guys Talking Wrestling (@SGTWATX) <a href="https://twitter.com/SGTWATX/status/1144636199614722048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Seanny One Ball 06-28-2019 09:16 PM

Bischoff has that telenova hair. I think that's what trust looks like.

Mr. Nerfect 06-28-2019 10:49 PM

Lol, this is such a mess.

Seanny One Ball 06-28-2019 11:12 PM

Eric Bischoff is making a mess all over Steph's hot hugs.


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