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Paul Heyman and Eric Bischoff to run WWE TV
https://www.si.com/wrestling/2019/06...-vince-mcmahon
If this is true, then things could definitely be turning around. Also could see this being a proactive move to stop them from going to AEW |
Probably the latter.
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Definitely the latter!
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Happy for them to collect some dough either way, freakin' pioneers who pushed against the WWF in the 90s now offering their shields for the incoming battle
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I doubt the solution to the future is in 1996 but I applaud them for making a genuine effort.
If these are legit creative roles and not onscreen heel figures just a reminder it all still funnels thru Vince at the end of the day, both won't exactly have free creative reign. |
Nice!
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These men were old when I was young and I am now old.
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an fu to conrad Tomson wwe steals another of his podcasters. I hope bischoff will be on air he is a great heel.
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what would be cool is if they bring back the name wcw for smackdown vince still owns the name.
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Vince has finally gotten with the times and realized the Attitude Era doesn't need to be rehashed anymore. So now he's rehashing the Ruthless Aggression Era.
When are Rico, Rodney Mack, and Candice Michelle returning? |
Can't wait for Beefcake to show up on Smackdown
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While I am skeptical since Vince has final creative say and that hasn't been a good thing for a long time -- I do hope this ends the 'Wild Card Era' and we get definitive rosters again.
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Good news, hopefully Vince will be more hands on with the XFL let them work.
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Super pumped about this news for some ungodly reason, I don't even have any Infinity Stones to be feeling this good
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How long before Paul Heyman gets frustrated and leaves?
"No Vince, I don't want to push Shane!" |
3 weeks after Vince rejects all his ideas and demands a farting gimmick for Otis.
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so what happens to trips does he just have nxt
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HHH will now report to Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman
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Smackdown to debut on Fox as WCW Smackdown!
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Cant see a downside to hiring people who have ran wrestling shows to run a wrestling show
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All depends on how much reign they have. A fresh take can be good, but can also be bad.... Heyman has at least been in the business recently, whereas Bischoff has just been doing the podcast and personal appearance loops....
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Like E as a smarmy heel, though. |
And we're meant to believe that Micromanaging Vince still won't have the final say? Doubting it.
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If they can run the shows with their own vision but with Vince’s final say it could be huge. I think the problem may be the PG environment.
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Remember that awful millennial promo that Ronda cut about Becky Lynch who is two days OLDER than Ronda?
That was Heyman's idea. Doesn't inspire me with a lot of hope that Heyman himself isn't a bit out of touch, but we'll see. |
Ronda still had to deliver it, which wasn't her strength. If someone wrote "do you smell what I'm cooking?" in a promo for The Great Khali...
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I understand that. But I'm just not sure cutting a promo about somebody's age makes a lot of sense in that scenario.
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I will say, this "wild card" shit isn't gonna work if Heyman and Bischoff intend on having two completely different feels for their shows.
Here's hoping they go back to enforcing the split. |
God dammit, give Trips the fuckin’ book!
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Poor Tony Shavontay.
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I kind of feel like long-term this will fail, because I can't see Vince all of a sudden handing all this creative power to both and resisting the urge to re-write all of RAW and SDLive at the last minute instead.
Likely just another chapter in 'The Death of WWE' book for Bryan Alvarez. |
I do think this kills the wild card nonsense, but I think it would be wise to let Easy E and Uncle Paul discuss who they want on their shows and then make switches.
As it stands I can't see Bischoff using say, Sonya Deville or Ember Moon well - but I could see Heyman doing so. Could see Heyman giving Drew more of a personality as well. |
Eric Bischoff will be soaking this all up like it was his master plan from the start back in 1993.
Maybe it was. He's had his tongue down Prime Steph McMahon's throat, he had a pretty long run as a talent and now look. All he had to do was wait for Vince to go as insane as the old men he put out of business back in the 80's. Everything's coming up Bischoff |
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Oof. Nevermind then. Get him out of here. |
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Baby Boomer isn't just about age it's about how many babies explode
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Going to be interesting in five years when WWE has continued to drop in eyeballs and attendance to the point they really only exist as a 1 hr 'from the vault' show on Fox Sports and a company that does two tours a year in Saudi Arabia after Vince sells the joint because the XFL flops, SD flops on FOX (note, I predict it will do ok for a few months before tanking) and Stock eventually plummets for a multitude of reasons.
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Of course, the opposite of all that could happen too.
IDK, guess we'll see what the future holds |
I dunno what theyre doing to increase they gate but they should be very concerned. Granted for the first time ever the gate isnt paying the bills but thats a huge revenue stream to have hemorrhage like that.
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I think they've got to lower ticket prices.
I don't know what they pay to rent buildings but ticket prices have gone up considerably the last few years it seems. I think lower prices would help attract people who want to bring their kids to a show, more parents/kids = more butts in seats. |
Just imagining Road Wild 2020 resulting in actual Amish Roadkill.
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Heyman was never going to AEW unless Brock did. Bischoff maybe, but that's a giant maybe.
Heyman thinks outside the box and is creative. Bischoff understands story structure and continuity better than just about anybody in wrestling. Vince overseeing them is the problem. If he shoots down all of their ideas then what is the point? If he lets them have creative freedom, both shows will improve greatly. Also wildcard rule has to end immediately. |
I don't want a heel authority figure because it's a very played out trope but I still think Bischoff was the best GM they've had. He's a really great on-screen performer.
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I don't know if AEW would of signed these guys anyway to be honest. maybe Heyman to act as a consultant, but i think the AEW guys are fine on their own. But it is funny seeing the WWE keep on going to the well to make something work. We've had the 24/7 title, Taker/Golderberg and now this announcement recently.
I don't really see these two helping at all. Vince is still running the show and his creative has been pretty shit for a while and he doesn't seem to want to change. They're still a billion dollar company though so i guess why would he? he probably doesn't give a fuck about Monday Night Raw or Tuesday Night Smackdown anymore |
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Vince only listen to Russo
hire vince russo,,,,, |
Paul Heyman has been involved with creative for a long time and it's fucking sucked. Bischoff has exposed himself as a hack time and time again. This is going to be pretty funny. Guess they have to do something.
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Honest question: who would you hire instead?
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Honestly, I'm not sure and I wouldn't want to be in that position at all. I think it's way too messy and you probably couldn't pay me enough to want to take on the stress of working with Vince. I'd take a much lower-paid but possible job somewhere else.
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At least he got wrestling people and not some writers from Temptation Island or whatever.
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If these two guys arent the guys who you think are fit for the job then who is more qualified then them? |
Gulp.
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I don’t think Seth as a main eventer is a bad thing in theory. Just give him interesting people to work with. Aka not following up a fun match win AJ with throwing him into a multi-PPV program with Baron fucking Corbin.
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Seth is a good rassler and a boring face character
Maybe Paul can spice him and Drew up IDK |
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Everything hings on how Vince is going to act once things start going into motion. If this plan is actually modeled after NXT, then it has a very good chance of succeeding. If not, then they will eventually just become like Bruce Prichard, who has been very ineffective as the top guy in Creative and as the mediator or "voice of Vince" to Creative. |
To be fair, every face in WWE is brutally boring. They make them single-note and hammer that note into the fucking ground.
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I would let Smackdown have the bigger stars, since Bischoff will give their characters actual story arcs. I would let Raw have the upper mid card guys, if Paul Heymans tenure as Smackdown head writer in the early 2000's proved anything, it's that Paul can take upper mid card guys and get them to top guys. They need to get rid of the wildcard, and not have any superstar shakeups for at least 3 years. Making the the shows truly different brands is the only way to get the ratings up for both shows. They also need to go back to brand exclusive PPVs. |
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I love the WWE Universe! I am doing this for the WWE Universe!! |
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The Bisch. It would be like watching Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas go at it. |
I'm pretty sure Bischoff will have usurped Triple H to claim Steph and NXT before the year is out. He'll then give NXT to Kevin Nash.
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More importantly, how will former TPWW poster, Poit react to this?
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They really do these days.
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According to the Observer, FOX was caught by surprise from WWE's announcement and it turns out they rather have Heyman than Bischoff had WWE actually gave them the choice beforehand.
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Some conflicting reports regarding why Triple H wasn't picked to head either RAW or Smackdown.
Voices of Wrestling reported that Triple H refused the offer, Pro Wrestling Sheet speculating he didn't want to split time between NXT and a main brand due to the rumors of NXT moving to FS1 later this year, and Fightful debunking both of those reports. |
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If anyone fails it will be Heyman.
The Bisch has a glorious head of hair. |
Gonna just post this as my only comment
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Speaking of value, I wonder how much tix are anymore? That might also be compounding the problem. You present fans with a conundrum: spend an estimated $50 or so to go to a house show full of people your weekly TV tells me aren't worth watching for free or browse anything that might strike my fancy on demand for $10 in that month? |
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The ticket prices are in my mind way too high, and they run too many shows. It's a multi billion dollar company, and Vince is still running 5 to 6 house shows a week to grind out a few extra thousand dollars. He is one greedy sob. |
Didn’t WrestleMania 28 get like 1.5 million buys? The network does a good job of hiding a loss of interest in PPVs because there’s no way of comparing anymore. But when 1.5 million people are willing to spend $50+ to see WrestleMania and now they’ve basically lowered the price to $10 while also giving an extra FREE PPV, 30 days of free 24/7 content, on-demand access to every major PPV and TV episode ever from multiple companies and a ton of new original productions and they can’t hit 2 million... It’s pretty telling.
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Was wrestle mania no viewable on the app?
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What brand will Nia be on??
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As much as I despise her, I can get behind Jax on that one.
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I had a dream where first order of business was to hire Jacob Fatu, call him “Rakashi Fatu” and give him the gimmick of being an insult comic. Thought I’d share.
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I wonder who Eric Bischoff will fire first - The sacrificial lamb...
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Paul Heyman only 53... thought he was a lot older
Was 28-36 during the original ECW |
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Conversely, I didn’t realize bischoff was that old.
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How old Bischoff is/was doesn't surprise me. How young Heyman was does.
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Okay, thinking about this with a bit more engagement:
This has to lead to changes, yeah? Like, at first I was like "Vince is still in charge and this isn't going to work." I mean, Heyman has been in creative, and if what we've got to thank him for is the awful Ronda Rousey and Alexa Bliss stuff, then I do question whether he's still got it. I still think that the Vince problem is going to be there as an overarching issue that gets them in the end, but short-term, is there any reason Heyman, more specfically, would agree to this given his alleged willfulness to stay out of official creative positions? I know money talks, but Heyman was no doubt getting paid out the ass already. Bischoff would probably like some glamor back in his life, so it's not so much him I'm thinking about. But they're going to have to be allowed to at least make some unique production decisions, right? Right? |
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You're such a wee fanny |
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Bischoff has that telenova hair. I think that's what trust looks like.
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Lol, this is such a mess.
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Eric Bischoff is making a mess all over Steph's hot hugs.
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