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Supreme Olajuwon 11-11-2019 09:11 PM

Raw started 10 minutes ago.
 
What a piece of shit television show.

Droford 11-11-2019 09:15 PM

It was taped 3 days ago

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 09:17 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Admit it, you kind of want to see how bad this <a href="https://twitter.com/LanaWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LanaWWE</a> segment gets <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAWTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1194025869804810240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Only interested in seeing how bad of a trainwreck that segment was and if WWE did anything in post since supposedly it was both an all-time bad segment and crowd reactions being like Mania 33 ending-level of hatred.

Supreme Olajuwon 11-11-2019 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5300591)
It was taped 3 days ago

SO WHAT DROFORD YOU BIG BALD LITTLE BALLED BASTARD

Supreme Olajuwon 11-11-2019 09:22 PM

The greatest moment in WWE history was taped 6 days before it aired and WCW spoiled it on their own show and it was just as amazing.

Volare 11-11-2019 09:25 PM

Greatest thread title ever.

Droford 11-11-2019 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5300594)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Admit it, you kind of want to see how bad this <a href="https://twitter.com/LanaWWE?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@LanaWWE</a> segment gets <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAWTonight?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAWTonight</a></p>&mdash; WWE Creative Humor (@WWECreative_ish) <a href="https://twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/1194025869804810240?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Only interested in seeing how bad of a trainwreck that segment was and if WWE did anything in post since supposedly it was both an all-time bad segment and crowd reactions being like Mania 33 ending-level of hatred.

I didn't read spoilers.. hmm

Droford 11-11-2019 09:30 PM

Charlotte made the tag this week lol

Black Widow 11-11-2019 09:31 PM

This is way boring

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 09:31 PM

Charlotte's moving around a lot more slower than usual for her matches. Like a bunch of awkward pauses or going in somewhat slow motion for certain spots.

Droford 11-11-2019 09:31 PM

So much for SD staying on SD

Volare 11-11-2019 09:33 PM

Is Kari Sane gonna be on?

slik 11-11-2019 09:33 PM

just turning raw on...lame segment

slik 11-11-2019 09:37 PM

Total Divas looks like the most godawful show of all-time

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 09:41 PM

No wonder Sin Cara wants out of WWE. They took away his trampoline entrance again.

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5300617)
Total Divas looks like the most godawful show of all-time

That show quickly went downhill in terms of quality and interest once Cena and Bryan left. The Bellas pulled off an amazing con job to Vince by making him think they were legit mega stars in wrestling because of that show.

Black Widow 11-11-2019 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5300617)
Total Divas looks like the most godawful show of all-time

My sister loves it but she has garbage taste anyway

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 09:57 PM

WWE somehow managed to find a way to make a 24/7 title match and shenanigans dull even with R-Truth being involved.

Only good part was Truth's gag at the end.

slik 11-11-2019 10:02 PM

Raw not in the top twenty trends on twitter worldwide at all

Sepholio 11-11-2019 10:04 PM

The crowd doesn't like Seth lol

GOOD. Good.

Sepholio 11-11-2019 10:06 PM

Walter looking very regal.

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 10:08 PM

Rollins wants the UK's best wrestler ... WALTER appears instead.

Either Rollins messed up his lines a bit or someone forgot WALTER is from Germany.

:lol: at the fake crowd pop for WALTER's announcement.

Droford 11-11-2019 10:09 PM

Seth wants to burn Walters Ass down

slik 11-11-2019 10:10 PM

Walter looks like a doofus

Droford 11-11-2019 10:19 PM

KO vs Walter would be fun

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 10:22 PM

Rollins vs WALTER was decent at best overall.

The amount of DQ and no contest finishes Rollins has had in recent months has been ridiculous and one reason why people have been souring on him.

slik 11-11-2019 10:25 PM

Lawler literally appears to have no idea what NXT UK is

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 10:31 PM

If Smackdown has been the whipping boy for the main roster against NXT, then NXT UK has been the same for the NXT brand against the main roster.

slik 11-11-2019 10:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oh look, a singles match with outside interference turning into a multi-man match. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> booking formula is in full effect. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a></p>&mdash; Brad Shepard of ProSportsExtra.com (@TheBradShepard) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheBradShepard/status/1194079263290535937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

slik 11-11-2019 10:33 PM

Damn at Walter's thong being exposed

slik 11-11-2019 10:37 PM

Whale Tale Walter, the new Lita

slik 11-11-2019 10:40 PM

Best part of RAW so far:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nice Ultimate Warrior tribute <a href="https://t.co/pHhcLe7iup">pic.twitter.com/pHhcLe7iup</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WWE?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WWE</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#RAW</a></p>&mdash; NoDQ.com: WWE #SurvivorSeries 2019 news (@nodqdotcom) <a href="https://twitter.com/nodqdotcom/status/1194082416060698630?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 10:44 PM

Andrade vs Cedric was decent overall

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 10:46 PM

:eek: a NXT commercial actually focusing on what's happening on this week's show.

Speaking of NXT, that ending last week was pretty dumb considering the current Survivor Series build and why it was a bad idea to be running a War Games and Survivor Series build at the same time for the brand.

slik 11-11-2019 10:47 PM

A lot of tweets discussing Walter's underwear on Twitter

DaveWadding 11-11-2019 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5300617)
Total Divas looks like the most godawful show of all-time

The wife watches it and tbh the story lines on Total Divas actually make sense and come to satisfying conclusions, unlike the main roster.

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 10:59 PM

Lana's promo sounds way too over scripted and memorized. Even her breaks don't come off feeling natural.

slik 11-11-2019 10:59 PM

Jesus this Lana segment is god awful

Droford 11-11-2019 11:01 PM

Lol Daddy's home

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:03 PM

So Lana's whole problem is because she never bothered to tell an extremely horny Rusev to wear a condom.

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:06 PM

Whoever in Creative came up with this segment and feud in general probably should have been tossed out of a window or the room right afterwards.

slik 11-11-2019 11:07 PM

That was the worst segment in WWE all year

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:14 PM

Whatever is in that mysterious bag is probably going to be something that ends up being very anti-climatic when its revealed.

slik 11-11-2019 11:16 PM

Can we collectively agree Paul Heyman is 'not good' anymore at creative?

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slik (Post 5300669)
Can we collectively agree Paul Heyman is 'not good' anymore at creative?

He pretty much peaked in terms of putting on very good shows after his first one as RAW's Executive Director.

Even with Vince's usual stuff dragging things down, the stuff he's supposedly been in charge of hasn't been consistently good either and at times even worse.

Droford 11-11-2019 11:25 PM

Using NXT UK guys in theory was cool but ultimately pointless if RAWjust squashes them all

slik 11-11-2019 11:26 PM

Honestly, most of the NXT UK guys aren't going to come out of this looking good to casuals.

Walter had the best showing of the bunch.

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:26 PM

That was such a waste of an appearance by Webster & Andrews. Maybe even the worst match they've had as a team in WWE and NXT.

For some reference, it was only about a month ago that Webster & Andrews were NXT UK tag champs even if the build for their title win was very rushed and had a very short title reign.

slik 11-11-2019 11:30 PM

A lot of sexual tension between Ricochet and Orton

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:30 PM

Guess WWE finally realized their generic ads for NXT were not helping at all to get people interested in watching the show and finally put some real effort on making those ads actually interesting.

slik 11-11-2019 11:33 PM

This is honestly one of the worst RAWs of 2019

Droford 11-11-2019 11:35 PM

The 5x5x5 men's match

Assume NXT will be Cole, Lee, Riddle, Gargano and Ciampa

SD should be Reigns, Strowman, G, Cesaro and Corbin

xrodmuc316 11-11-2019 11:37 PM

Read the results, seems like a classic phoned in episode being taped in U.K.

Also read Sin Cara 2 aka Hunico asked to be released with 3 years left on his deal but WWE said no.

I get not doing releases and all with AEW, but it is especially stupid in this case. Why can't they just get a 3rd person to be Sin Cara?

Why not throw that gimmick on a NXT guy like Raul Mendoza? They are both 5'7" and about the same weight. Mendoza is 13 years younger and would allow the gimmick to continue.

Seems win win for both Hunico and Mendoza. Vince needs to not be such a dickhead.

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5300683)
The 5x5x5 men's match

Assume NXT will be Cole Kieth Lee Riddle Gargano and Ciampa

If that's the actual case, then last week's NXT ending was even more dumb.

Cole randomly decided to attack Ciampa after already interfering and attacking Styles. Then the show ended with him staring down Balor on the ramp who interfered earlier to attack Riddle. Rest of UE didn't even bother to show up at all.

Droford 11-11-2019 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5300692)
If that's the actual case, then last week's NXT ending was even more dumb.

Cole randomly decided to attack Ciampa after already interfering and attacking Styles. Then the show ended with him staring down Balor on the ramp who interfered earlier to attack Riddle. Rest of UE didn't even bother to show up at all.

Well the rest of UE are in the Tag and Secondary Title matches so..it could be Cole/Balor/Riddle/Ciampa/? But that makes even less sense

Emperor Smeat 11-11-2019 11:47 PM

Still doesn't explain why they went the way they did for last week's ending. Had Cole just attacked Styles as revenge earlier, it would have made sense and led to a better ending in terms of the NXT vs. main roster war.

Or even just have all of UE beat up the OC and Ciampa & Pals and it would have done a better job of working in both War Games and Survivor Series builds.

Emperor Smeat 11-12-2019 12:02 AM

6-man tag match was pretty good overall.

Outside of the women's tag match, rest of RAW wasn't that good overall.

Droford 11-12-2019 12:07 AM

Orton gonna turn on Team Raw at SS so he can get traded because SD has no main event heels

RP 11-12-2019 12:27 AM

Is this show still on?

SlickyTrickyDamon 11-12-2019 01:13 AM

No. it ends at 11 now.

Tom Guycott 11-12-2019 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supreme Olajuwon (Post 5300586)
What a piece of shit television show.

Remember when there used to be fights over which thread was the official RAW post? And now, it's late and barely two pages. Like a junior high book report. How the mighty have fallen.

Gerard 11-12-2019 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emperor Smeat (Post 5300663)
So Lana's whole problem is because she never bothered to tell an extremely horny Rusev to wear a condom.

It's not "Rusev". it's "RRRRRusev", because she ditched the russian accent yet seems to keep forgetting that while saying his name.

rez 11-12-2019 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 5300733)
Remember when there used to be fights over which thread was the official RAW post? And now, it's late and barely two pages. Like a junior high book report. How the mighty have fallen.

Now it's embarrassing to be the unlucky soul to give in and create em

Supreme Olajuwon 11-12-2019 01:16 PM

I feel no shame.

Black Widow 11-12-2019 01:32 PM

I bet she falls and they say the baby didn't make it.

slik 11-12-2019 02:53 PM

Ratings should be interesting...

on YT (so far) the Lana segment has 1.3 million views and the next most watched is under 500k...which is very low for WWE RAW the next day on YT

Triple A 11-12-2019 03:01 PM

Becky Lynch in-ring promo has the least views of any video other than the Aleister Black promo...

Seems like people don't really care about her anymore due to her not doing anything interesting in months...

Evil Vito 11-12-2019 03:17 PM

Being Seth's fiance during a time when everyone's turning on Seth probably doesn't help either.

Emperor Smeat 11-12-2019 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple A (Post 5300802)
Becky Lynch in-ring promo has the least views of any video other than the Aleister Black promo...

Seems like people don't really care about her anymore due to her not doing anything interesting in months...

Yeah its likely a mix of her not having enough interesting and quality opponents to feud with as champ and being associated with Seth dragged her down a bit like Vito mentioned. Wasn't till her feud with Sasha that she actually had something very interesting to work with.

Also became somewhat obvious after a few weeks that WWE never had any real plans for her as a double Women's champion and Ronda was the only reason why she and the women's division got as big of a focus it did during Mania season. If it wasn't for FOX, WWE also likely would have went right back to Charlotte being the only top star for the division.

Emperor Smeat 11-12-2019 09:19 PM

Seems WWE went beyond their usual tactics when it comes to dealing with crowds not reacting the way they wanted.

Got called out again for blatantly messing around with the crowd's audio and using old crowd footage as reaction shots for last night's show.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WrestlingInc
It's looking more and more like WWE made significant edits to this week's RAW segment with Seth Rollins, due to the negative live crowd reactions ...

Our live spoiler recap from Friday's coverage post also mentioned the negative reactions for Rollins. Our correspondent for the post wrote, "Seth Rollins comes out to a very mixed reaction. The boos takeover and Rollins looks like he loses his train of thought for a few seconds. He tells the crowd to keep that same energy when... it's hard to hear him at points. He talks some about Triple H and the WWE NXT crew. Rollins issues a challenge to the best that the UK has to offer. Imperium appears on the stage to a massive pop. It's WWE UK Champion WALTER, Fabian Aichner, Marcel Barthel and Alexander Wolfe. WALTER accepts the challenge and the crowd goes mad."

Alex McCarthy of talkSPORT also tweeted about the crowd reaction edits after attending and watching RAW.

"Just watching #RAW back. Anyone in attendance will back me up here: Seth Rollins' line 'I think I am the best wrestler on the planet' was roundly booed. Yet, they've made it sound like a majority cheer on the broadcast. Weird that they do that," McCarthy wrote. He continued, "And this isn't about Seth (I've been roundly abused before for arguing he is, in actual fact, very good and in the convo of best in the world), I'm just not big on crowd noises being adjusted to fit a narrative."

Another fan tweeted about the edits and wrote, "One of the things I've found hilarious about last weeks and last nights @WWE RAW was that there were several times the audio (fans booing and cheering) didn't even closely match what the audience was doing on TV. LMFAO wtf did WWE play with the audio?!?! #WWE"

Furthermore, a reader named Jeremie sent word that Monday's taped Rollins segment from Manchester also included footage from the October 28 RAW episode from St. Louis. Jeremie knows this because he and his friend, who attended the recent RAW in St. Louis together, were also seen in screenshots from this week's taped RAW. WWE likely used footage from the October 28 RAW to make Rollins look better in the segment where he was heavily booed at Friday's tapings.

The St. Louis RAW featured a promo from Rollins and a Falls Count Anywhere win over Erick Rowan.


xrodmuc316 11-12-2019 09:41 PM

The old footage crowd shots are awesome. I hope they use really old footage with some Chris Benoit signs lol

Droford 11-13-2019 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 5300683)
The 5x5x5 men's match

Assume NXT will be Cole, Lee, Riddle, Gargano and Ciampa

SD should be Reigns, Strowman, G, Cesaro and Corbin

Missed SD by one with Ali over Cesaro

I missed NXT by at least one since Gargano is hurt


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